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Why rejecting Jesus is a sin

KingJ

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John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me''.

How do you explain this verse to an unsaved person?

I love how Jesus chose His words. He never beat around the bush. He said things as they were. It is for us to figure out the 'why'. The Holy Spirit does help us. So what is the 'why'? We can't say ''we must just accept Jesus'', because 'He said so'. Accepting Jesus is not magical words we need to recite in order to be saved. It is paramount to answer the 'why' and be able to explain it to the unsaved.

Here is my take, you don't have to agree. I am sure there is much to be said on this.

I want you to imagine living in a house that welcomes Saddam Hussein and rejects Mother Theresa. My country (South Africa) accepts a visit from Omar al-Bashir (Sudanese president) but rejects a visit from the Dalai Lama.

What would you say of the owner of that house? Rejecting Jesus speaks volumes of who you are as a person.

But there is more. Jesus was crucified because He said He was the Messiah John 5:18. The Son of God. According to Isaiah 9:6 that makes Him equal with God. IE Jesus called Himself God.

Jesus is putting the ball fully in our court on the need to pursue a personal investigation into Him being God. If you approve of what Jesus taught, you will further investigate this. If at the very least to do so on bended knee before God and sincerely ask Him to reveal the truth of Jesus. Scripture is crystal clear to us on the fact that God does reveal Jesus to those after His heart. 1 Cor 12:3, Matt 16:16-17.

What also needs to be grasped / mentioned regarding Jesus is the core of His message. The chief reason for Him ever speaking up / coming to earth is in Matt 5:32. 'I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance'. Accepting Jesus is sincerely repenting of your sins. Making rejecting Jesus, a refusal to truthfully repent.

Conclusion:

If you do not accept Jesus you are not a good person. If you accept Jesus's teachings but do not know Him as Lord, God does not believe you are a good person.

We must be truly desirous of sincere repentance from sin Psalm 51:17 and have a genuine hatred of what is evil Rom 12:9, before God will draw near to us James 4:8.

So if any of the teachings of Jesus hits a chord in your heart, you owe it to yourself, Jesus and God, to do further research. Rejecting Jesus is a grievous sin.
 
Well... of course rejecting Jesus ..IS a sin... but I tend to look at it differently.

The Bible says we are born into sin.
Rom 5:12; Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned—

There is no person (other than Jesus) that has never sinned. Being a "good person" doesn't matter. There are plenty of "good" people who don't know Jesus. But no matter how "good" they are, they have still sinned at some point. While rejecting Jesus is a sin... this isn't our first sin by any means.
I dare say, all of us have sinned thousands (millions?) of times before we were saved. It is because of those sins we are "not" saved in the first place.
(Are innocent infants saved? That's another thread topic) But I don't think any of us reading this are still infants, so it doesn't matter.

Without Jesus.. there is no way.. no other way to atone for those sins. Jesus is the ONLY way (John 14:6; ) despite most of the media
and celebrities saying otherwise. He is the ONLY mediator between God and man. ( 1 Tim 2:5; ) There is no other.

He is the perfect spotless lamb that was slain for our sins. There is no one else. He is our high priest, there is no one else.
Without Jesus to atone for your sins and reconcile you to God... you are lost period. Buddha, Muhammad, Isis, Nike, Odin, Allah,
Thor, Zeus, the Dalai Lama, even mother Theresa.. can't save you. There is only ONE person who can.

That may be an un-politically correct statement, it may be an intolerant statement... but it is the truth.

Acts 4:12; “And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.”
 
It's not just a sin but the Ultimate Sin.
Rejecting Christ Closes the door to eternity with God.

Men do not go to hell for murder or rape and so forth.
Men go to hell for Rejecting Thee one way unto God and Heaven.

It's just that simple.
Blessings to you
 
Men do not go to hell for murder or rape and so forth.
Got any scripture for that?
It is written..."For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified." (Rom 2:12-13)

If one doesn't believe in Christ Jesus, or God for that matter, they will be judged for the evil they did during their lives.
One more sin, not believing, won't make any difference.

All sinners manifest their lack of belief, as they ignore..."There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it." (1 Cor 10:13)
Believers look for God's graciously provided escapes.
 
Got any scripture for that?
John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Matthew 13:31
Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.

The biggest woman raper serial killer does not go to hell for his raping and killing but goes to hell for Rejecting Christ .

Example
3 breaths before he dies he ask God to forgive him and repents then draws his last breath .

He will be there in Heaven.
John 3:16 Guarantees this.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

All men will stand Accountable for his life. This means Christians too.
If we did not have the Blood of Christ covering us, then we would stand guilty as charged.

1 Corinthians 3:15
But if it is destroyed by the fire, we will lose everything. Yet we ourselves will be saved, like someone escaping from flames.

Many Christians will fall short of living up to the plan God had for them.
Without the Blood of Christ, they themselves would fall short.

So it's not the sin that failed them but the Lack of Christ Standing for them that sends them to hell.

Blessings to you
 
each and everyone of us are sinners and would go to hell if we got what we deserved, its only by Gods grace that we are saved. He sent his only son to die on the cross to be the one time sacrifice for all our sins. If you stand before God and say I am perfect I deserve heaven I do believe you will be in for a rude awaking
 
Got any scripture for that?
It is written..."For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified." (Rom 2:12-13)

If one doesn't believe in Christ Jesus, or God for that matter, they will be judged for the evil they did during their lives.
One more sin, not believing, won't make any difference.

All sinners manifest their lack of belief, as they ignore..."There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it." (1 Cor 10:13)
Believers look for God's graciously provided escapes.
I feel you are telling half the story. Literally nobody can stand in God's presence without Jesus. I agree with what you said. It just needs to be 'added' to what Wired for Fishing is also saying.
 
John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Matthew 13:31
Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.
The biggest woman raper serial killer does not go to hell for his raping and killing but goes to hell for Rejecting Christ .
That scripture really doesn't say what you are inferring, that a man goes to hell for something besides his unrepented sins.

Example
3 breaths before he dies he ask God to forgive him and repents then draws his last breath
He will be there in Heaven.
John 3:16 Guarantees this.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
"The devils believe...and tremble".
It is the "turn from" sin that we will be judged on, not our belief in Christ.

All men will stand Accountable for his life. This means Christians too.
If we did not have the Blood of Christ covering us, then we would stand guilty as charged.
1 Corinthians 3:15
But if it is destroyed by the fire, we will lose everything. Yet we ourselves will be saved, like someone escaping from flames.
Many Christians will fall short of living up to the plan God had for them.
Without the Blood of Christ, they themselves would fall short.

So it's not the sin that failed them but the Lack of Christ Standing for them that sends them to hell.
You are splitting hairs.
The only reason "Christ isn't standing for them" is because they wouldn't "turn from" sin.
The only manifestation of one's belief is their obedience to their Leader.
 
each and everyone of us are sinners and would go to hell if we got what we deserved, its only by Gods grace that we are saved. He sent his only son to die on the cross to be the one time sacrifice for all our sins. If you stand before God and say I am perfect I deserve heaven I do believe you will be in for a rude awaking
It is written..."For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." (Rom 6:23)
Paul also writes..."Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; (death), and some men they follow after." (1 Tim 5:24)
We can all suffer with Christ, dying for our sins, before we are at the seat of judgement. (Rom 6:3-6)
It will be too late then to change our ways.
But we can change them here and now.
We don't need to be sinners for the rest of our time on earth.
At the judgement on the last day, some will hear..."Well done my good and faithful servant, enter into the glory of your Lord".
Thanks be to God.
 
Greetings,

The only manifestation of one's belief is their obedience to their Leader.

difficult to argue with that.

How is such manifesting to manifest? Is it only by repentance and staying sin free?

Certainly to rebel against one's master is to deny him as master and lord.


Bless you ....><>
 
Greetings,
How is such manifesting to manifest? Is it only by repentance and staying sin free?
There is more to being reborn of God than just obedience.
We are to help those in need,...without being told. Though, I guess we are told to do that.
Upon further thought, I can't think of any way to manifest rebirth without it being, at it's heart, obedience.
It seems Jesus, Paul. Luke, Peter, James, and John, etc., have left us a fairly complete list of exhortations for our continued walk in the light.
Thanks be to God.
 
Obedience

when we do turn our ear totally to God we do so to the exclusion of all else. Anything less is not totally turned or tuned. All other distractions must go, all other things that might lure our eyes and ears to hearken to them must be shunned but, trying this is fruitless.. it can only be done by a sincere decision to really listen only to the LORD.
Thankfully He doesn't leave all the decision making to us but gives us the hint which way we should walk. Another way to put it is, if we do not follow through with what the LORD tells us, we have decided to listen to someone else and to listen not to the LORD.
Quite simple really.

Incline your ear, and come unto Me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David. Isaiah 55:3

If you don't first incline your ear, you will not hear.... but hearing is more than hearing, which we need to see clearly, which is perhaps why we also have the word, 'Obedience'.

Guess what it means?

it comes from Obey which is made up of two parts (originally and etymologically speaking).

Ob
from Old French, from Latin ob. In compound words of Latin origin, ob-(and oc-, of-, op-) indicates: to, towards ( object); against ( oppose); away from ( obsolete); before ( obstetric); down, over ( obtect); for thesake of ( obsecrate); and is used as an intensifier ( oblong)

and
audīre to hear; (like audio, audible, etc)

and it is basically telling us that to obey is to listen and do with what you listen that which you hear.

When Jesus was asked about the Commandments, what did He say?
I think you will find, if you look, that He begins with Hear or Listen, which is exactly the same as the beginning of what we call the Ten Commandments found in Old Testament. This might come as a baffler, but, the rest follows, almost as if to spell it out in detail.
Of course, the detail turned into even more detail and from that we have what most refer to as the Law. 600 odd details.

Keep it simple, and incline your ear and hear....


Bless you ....><>
 
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John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me''.

How do you explain this verse to an unsaved person?

I love how Jesus chose His words. He never beat around the bush. He said things as they were. It is for us to figure out the 'why'. The Holy Spirit does help us. So what is the 'why'? We can't say ''we must just accept Jesus'', because 'He said so'. Accepting Jesus is not magical words we need to recite in order to be saved. It is paramount to answer the 'why' and be able to explain it to the unsaved.

Here is my take, you don't have to agree. I am sure there is much to be said on this.

I want you to imagine living in a house that welcomes Saddam Hussein and rejects Mother Theresa. My country (South Africa) accepts a visit from Omar al-Bashir (Sudanese president) but rejects a visit from the Dalai Lama.

What would you say of the owner of that house? Rejecting Jesus speaks volumes of who you are as a person.

But there is more. Jesus was crucified because He said He was the Messiah John 5:18. The Son of God. According to Isaiah 9:6 that makes Him equal with God. IE Jesus called Himself God.

Jesus is putting the ball fully in our court on the need to pursue a personal investigation into Him being God. If you approve of what Jesus taught, you will further investigate this. If at the very least to do so on bended knee before God and sincerely ask Him to reveal the truth of Jesus. Scripture is crystal clear to us on the fact that God does reveal Jesus to those after His heart. 1 Cor 12:3, Matt 16:16-17.

What also needs to be grasped / mentioned regarding Jesus is the core of His message. The chief reason for Him ever speaking up / coming to earth is in Matt 5:32. 'I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance'. Accepting Jesus is sincerely repenting of your sins. Making rejecting Jesus, a refusal to truthfully repent.

Conclusion:

If you do not accept Jesus you are not a good person. If you accept Jesus's teachings but do not know Him as Lord, God does not believe you are a good person.

We must be truly desirous of sincere repentance from sin Psalm 51:17 and have a genuine hatred of what is evil Rom 12:9, before God will draw near to us James 4:8.

So if any of the teachings of Jesus hits a chord in your heart, you owe it to yourself, Jesus and God, to do further research. Rejecting Jesus is a grievous sin.
John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me''.

How do you explain this verse to an unsaved person?

I love how Jesus chose His words. He never beat around the bush. He said things as they were. It is for us to figure out the 'why'. The Holy Spirit does help us. So what is the 'why'? We can't say ''we must just accept Jesus'', because 'He said so'. Accepting Jesus is not magical words we need to recite in order to be saved. It is paramount to answer the 'why' and be able to explain it to the unsaved.

Here is my take, you don't have to agree. I am sure there is much to be said on this.

I want you to imagine living in a house that welcomes Saddam Hussein and rejects Mother Theresa. My country (South Africa) accepts a visit from Omar al-Bashir (Sudanese president) but rejects a visit from the Dalai Lama.

What would you say of the owner of that house? Rejecting Jesus speaks volumes of who you are as a person.

But there is more. Jesus was crucified because He said He was the Messiah John 5:18. The Son of God. According to Isaiah 9:6 that makes Him equal with God. IE Jesus called Himself God.

Jesus is putting the ball fully in our court on the need to pursue a personal investigation into Him being God. If you approve of what Jesus taught, you will further investigate this. If at the very least to do so on bended knee before God and sincerely ask Him to reveal the truth of Jesus. Scripture is crystal clear to us on the fact that God does reveal Jesus to those after His heart. 1 Cor 12:3, Matt 16:16-17.

What also needs to be grasped / mentioned regarding Jesus is the core of His message. The chief reason for Him ever speaking up / coming to earth is in Matt 5:32. 'I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance'. Accepting Jesus is sincerely repenting of your sins. Making rejecting Jesus, a refusal to truthfully repent.

Conclusion:

If you do not accept Jesus you are not a good person. If you accept Jesus's teachings but do not know Him as Lord, God does not believe you are a good person.

We must be truly desirous of sincere repentance from sin Psalm 51:17 and have a genuine hatred of what is evil Rom 12:9, before God will draw near to us James 4:8.

So if any of the teachings of Jesus hits a chord in your heart, you owe it to yourself, Jesus and God, to do further research. Rejecting Jesus is a grievous sin.

Nope, even if you accept Jesus you are not a good person. Why, because Christians are sinners saved by grace. It is the goodness of Christ that let's you into heaven, not yours.
 
Nope, even if you accept Jesus you are not a good person. Why, because Christians are sinners saved by grace. It is the goodness of Christ that let's you into heaven, not yours.

Yes, we cannot be with God without Jesus. But who does Jesus choose?

Scripture says He chooses those who let Him in Rev 3:20 Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me.

So the question is, do you let Jesus in to dine with you? Assuming you knew Him. What He taught. What He has done for you.

If you do not let Him in, what kind of person are you?

James 4:8 touches on what kind of people do not draw near to God. James 4:8 Draw near to God and he will draw near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. We also have Rom 12:9 that clears all confusion on what love for God is. Rom 12:9 Let love be genuine, hate what is evil and cling to what is good.

So, we see that a good person will accept Jesus and a bad person will not.

Now, to a God that is impartial Acts 10:34, it speaks volumes of the difference between Christians and non Christians.
 
So, we see that a good person will accept Jesus and a bad person will not.

There are some people.... even if they accept Jesus. He doesn't accept them.

Matt 7:21; "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.
Matt 7:22; "Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?'
Matt 7:23; "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'

There are some people waiting for Jesus to open the door.... but they still don't get to enter in.

Matt 25:10; "And while they were going away to make the purchase, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding feast; and the door was shut.
Matt 25:11; "Later the other virgins also came, saying, 'Lord, lord, open up for us.'
Matt 25:12; "But he answered, 'Truly I say to you, I do not know you.'
 
Bottom line is you have to love Jesus to get to heaven it seems to me, and to know that you love Jesus you want to .do as Jesus says.

John 14:15
“If you love me, you will keep my commandments.
 
BAC, you reply to me stating 'good people will accept Jesus and bad won't'. I have to ask, do you believe some good people will be in hell and some bad people in heaven?

There are some people.... even if they accept Jesus. He doesn't accept them.

Matt 7:21; "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.

Matt 7:22; "Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?'
Matt 7:23; "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'

These people did not let Him in. Matt 15:8 These people honor me with their lips but their hearts are far from me.

We must always remember to contrast Matt 7:22 type works / 'Christians' with those of James 1:27. Jesus would never say what He said in Matt 7:22, to those doing James 1:27.
There are some people waiting for Jesus to open the door.... but they still don't get to enter in.

Matt 25:10; "And while they were going away to make the purchase, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding feast; and the door was shut.Matt 25:11; "Later the other virgins also came, saying, 'Lord, lord, open up for us.' Matt 25:12; "But he answered, 'Truly I say to you, I do not know you
Jesus has already opened the door for everyone. We choose to not enter. The parable of the virgins speaks to those who do not 'enter' now while the bridegroom is away.

Jesus opening door to all = John 3:16.

Entering = Psalm 51:17 My sacrifice, O God, is a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart you, God, will not despise.

 
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Nope, even if you accept Jesus you are not a good person.
Just specifically to this line. I disagree. You may not be a perfect person, but you are a good person.

There is a world of difference between the person that repents and turns from sins verse the person that does not. Now accepting Jesus requires us to get our house in order. Otherwise it is just words as Matt 15:8 says 'These people honor me with their lips but their hearts are far from me'.
 
Nope, even if you accept Jesus you are not a good person. Why, because Christians are sinners saved by grace. It is the goodness of Christ that let's you into heaven, not yours.
If you "accept Jesus" you obey Jesus.
Any disobedience shows one has not "accepted Jesus".
Jesus made a way to live without sinning.
I exhort you to choose that path.
 
If you "accept Jesus" you obey Jesus.
Any disobedience shows one has not "accepted Jesus".
Jesus made a way to live without sinning.
I exhort you to choose that path.

Nope. Jesus made away for him in you to stop sinning. You are dead remember. Whatsoever is born of God cannot sin.

"Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."1Jn 3:9

"Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him": Rom 6:8
 
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