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Why those who will not worship the image should be killed

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Awhile back I posted a thread on the mark of the man/beast, and I gave some sound scriptural proof confirming all my points. I explained in that thread by the words of God what the mark represents, what the name is, how the number is tied into both man and beast. And I covered what the image is that is to be worshiped; and is even now already being worshiped.

What I would like to explain in this thread in more detail, is why in Revelation 13:15 it says “that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.” For those who did not read my thread on the mark of the beast, I would suggest you do so. But for those who did not I will briefly explain what the mark and the image of the first beast is as revealed to me by God’s Spirit of Truth. Simply put the mark of the man/beast is sin/sin nature. When sin entered into the world by one man’s disobedience, then the Serpent’s(the beasts) desire became man’s desire in all those who are of the flesh, and those who are of the serpents seed. Thus by serving sin man also worships the first beast (the old Serpent) by doing his will, or desire. This is why it is written in Revelation 13:4 that the world worships the Red Dragon.

Now the beast that is empowered by the Red Dragon speaks to the spirit of the Devil, or the “sin nature” of the Devil (beast) working “in” all mankind who is firstborn of “the flesh”; just as it is also written men are beasts. So the image of the second beast that is being promoted by the false prophet spirit is “the image of man;” but more specifically the image that is to be worshiped is the image of man’s own self. So the image of the first beast, (the Red Dragon) and the image of the second beast (mans own self ) are both worshiped by serving sin. Think about it, sin is self-serving, but love seeks not its own.

This brings us as to why those who will not serve sin and worship both the Red Dragon and self should be killed. Most people think of death as to the physical body. And many of God’s saints have been physically killed and persecuted by the children of “the flesh”. But God often speaks in a symbolic language and in spiritual terms, as not all death mentioned in God’s word is physical; but holds a deeper spiritual meaning.

Jesus spoke of sin like evil body parts that needed to be removed, or else. This is why Paul also spoke of “putting to death” the deeds of the flesh and of the body (sin). And Paul also spoke of “putting to death” your members (body parts) in Colossians 3:5 referring to sinful behaviour. Paul also spoke of “putting to death the body of sins,” and how our old man is crucified (put to death) with Christ, that “the body of sin might be destroyed,” that henceforth we should not serve sin.

So they were not talking about putting to death our physical bodies, but rather in spiritual terms they were talking about “putting to death sin” in our lives. So those who do not serve sin and worship self by sinning have crucified (put to death) the lusts of the flesh. As Paul says in Galatians chapter 5 that they that are Christ’s have crucified (put to death) the flesh with the affections and lusts thereof. Paul said by the cross of Christ, the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world. So we are to die to sin and thereby we also die to self; as sin is self-serving.

Paul said in 1 Corinthians 15:31 That in Christ “I die daily”. And also in Psalm 44:22 and Romans 8:36 we are told “For thy sake we are killed all the day long.” So how can we die daily, and how are we killed all the day long? This is answered in what Jesus spoke of in Luke 9:23 about taking up our cross daily and denying our self in order to follow Him. Jesus also said those who seek to save their lives shall lose it. But those who will lose their lives for His sake and the gospels, the same shall save it. This trying to preserve our own sinful way of life in this world is what is referred to as “the pride of life” in 1 John 2:16. We must be willing to sacrifice our own sinful lives in this world in order to follow after the Lord and walk in the Way of righteousness.

There is a lot of scripture to confirm this message, but I believe you get the point.

Remember sin is self serving, but love seeks not it’s own. It is also love that fulfills the law. Jesus said greater love has no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. Jesus showed us the greater love he had for us by laying down his own life so might live. We need to return that love in kind by presenting ourselves a living sacrifice to God, holy, acceptable to God, which is our reasonable service.

May the grace of the Lord be with you, Peace and God bless.
 
I am going to add this into this topic because the message pertains to this same topic.

We are shown many times in scripture, that after we are called out of the world by God; we are warned not to "turn back".

Jesus said in Luke 17:32-33 “Remember Lot's wife. 33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.”

Jesus was talking about those who seek to preserve a certain "way of life" which is living to the lusts of the "flesh."

Let's look at another place where Jesus said the same here in Mark 8:35 "For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it."

So it is giving up your own self serving "way of life" in order to serve the Lord and the gospel's.

Notice what Paul says here in Romans 8:13 "For if you live after the flesh, you shall die: but if you through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, you shall live."

This putting to death "the deeds" of the body, or putting to death "sin" in our lives; this is what is meant by taking up your cross daily to follow the Lord Jesus. We have to be willing to give up our own lusts and desires to follow Jesus and to follow the gospel teachings.

This "way of life" we are to lose, is the same "way of life" the world lusts after; and has pride in, which is called the pride of this life.
This is shown in 1 John 2:16" For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world."

So that is the "way of life" Jesus said we need to lose in order to preserve our life in Him.

But in the above Jesus also mentioned Lot's wife in Luke 17:32. So what is that about?

From Genesis 19: 17 “And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad, that he said, Escape for thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed.” Verse 26 “But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.”

Notice they were warned not to "look back". This is a sign of spiritual things to come.

Jesus said in Luke 9:62 “And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.”

The children of Israel also "looked back" on all the good things they had left behind in Egypt and it angered the Lord.

Numbers 11 "And when the people complained, it displeased the Lord: and the Lord heard it; and his anger was kindled; and the fire of the Lord burnt among them, and consumed them that were in the uttermost parts of the camp."
2 And the people cried unto Moses; and when Moses prayed unto the Lord, the fire was quenched.
3 And he called the name of the place Taberah: because the fire of the Lord burnt among them.
4 And the mixed multitude that was among them fell a lusting: and the children of Israel also wept again, and said, Who shall give us flesh to eat?
5 We remember the fish, which we did eat in Egypt freely; the cucumbers, and the melons, and the leeks, and the onions, and the garlick:
6 But now our soul is dried away: there is nothing at all, beside this manna, before our eyes."

The Lord gives us all these patterns and "signs" in scripture to teach us by repetition; that when we are called out of the world we are not to look back on our old lustful "ways of life." But sadly we know by the words of God, that many would fall away from the faith, and return back to their old lustful ways.

It is written in
Romans 12:2
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.”

So don’t look back to the things you left behind, but rather look ahead to the prize and the promises given by God. He is faithful who calls you out of "the ways" of this world, and shows us through Christ the new "Way" we must walk and live our lives in Him.


Be good and be blessed.
 
I am going to add this into this topic because the message pertains to this same topic.

We are shown many times in scripture, that after we are called out of the world by God; we are warned not to "turn back".

Jesus said in Luke 17:32-33 “Remember Lot's wife. 33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.”

Jesus was talking about those who seek to preserve a certain "way of life" which is living to the lusts of the "flesh."

Let's look at another place where Jesus said the same here in Mark 8:35 "For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it."

So it is giving up your own self serving "way of life" in order to serve the Lord and the gospel's.

Notice what Paul says here in Romans 8:13 "For if you live after the flesh, you shall die: but if you through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, you shall live."

This putting to death "the deeds" of the body, or putting to death "sin" in our lives; this is what is meant by taking up your cross daily to follow the Lord Jesus. We have to be willing to give up our own lusts and desires to follow Jesus and to follow the gospel teachings.

This "way of life" we are to lose, is the same "way of life" the world lusts after; and has pride in, which is called the pride of this life.
This is shown in 1 John 2:16" For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world."

So that is the "way of life" Jesus said we need to lose in order to preserve our life in Him.

But in the above Jesus also mentioned Lot's wife in Luke 17:32. So what is that about?

From Genesis 19: 17 “And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad, that he said, Escape for thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed.” Verse 26 “But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.”

Notice they were warned not to "look back". This is a sign of spiritual things to come.

Jesus said in Luke 9:62 “And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.”

The children of Israel also "looked back" on all the good things they had left behind in Egypt and it angered the Lord.

Numbers 11 "And when the people complained, it displeased the Lord: and the Lord heard it; and his anger was kindled; and the fire of the Lord burnt among them, and consumed them that were in the uttermost parts of the camp."
2 And the people cried unto Moses; and when Moses prayed unto the Lord, the fire was quenched.
3 And he called the name of the place Taberah: because the fire of the Lord burnt among them.
4 And the mixed multitude that was among them fell a lusting: and the children of Israel also wept again, and said, Who shall give us flesh to eat?
5 We remember the fish, which we did eat in Egypt freely; the cucumbers, and the melons, and the leeks, and the onions, and the garlick:
6 But now our soul is dried away: there is nothing at all, beside this manna, before our eyes."

The Lord gives us all these patterns and "signs" in scripture to teach us by repetition; that when we are called out of the world we are not to look back on our old lustful "ways of life." But sadly we know by the words of God, that many would fall away from the faith, and return back to their old lustful ways.

It is written in
Romans 12:2
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.”

So don’t look back to the things you left behind, but rather look ahead to the prize and the promises given by God. He is faithful who calls you out of "the ways" of this world, and shows us through Christ the new "Way" we must walk and live our lives in Him.


Be good and be blessed.
The word beast how it is written in the english translations and other translations which have been translated from The english translations and not the Original Copied Manuscript can be misleading. if not use the Proper Hermeneutics.

For The Manuscripts mention about The beasts in Heaven, and many translation used the word creatures in heaven. And not the correct word "beast". Nero in revelation 666 0r 616 no certainty, all assumptions, But Nero was nick name the Beast, that is true by his character. And normally the term "beast" means a wild animal or The wild character of a man, acting beastly. The devil and demons are "ANGELS" and they Appear as ANGELS of Light and beastly character, But GODS, HOLY ANGELS Strikes Terror into men, Because Of "HOLINESS" and GOD's ANGEL are Terrifying, to men and women.

They are Beast, and His Angels has Beastly Character too, depends who they are after! And JESUS will look like one too when He appears, "Hair White As WOOL, EYES light Flames of Fire, feet like Polish Brass, Vesture Dripping in BLOOD> and Out of His Mouth a "SWORD" The WORD of GOD, For He is A "TERRIBLE GOD" Mountains and Hills melt before Him! The Demons and Devil runs from Him.!

Now concerning the "Mark of GOD" on A child of GOD it is there on them. A Mark design by The "GOD ALMIGHTY" The MARK of The Beast, Meaning in this essence The Devil is visible too, For GOD knows ALL, He made them and He reveals them to ever He Pleases. And does not need a "MAGIC MARKER", this GOD is not a CREATURE! Like God needs A "MAGIC MARKER" even to show you who they are.

You been hanging around "Walmart" to much in the Office supply department. Do you understand "Anthropomorphic" words?

Sorry I had too. Because you had took flight and left the Runway and Full TRUST! traveling at Mach 9.
 
The characteristics and "nature" of those who belong to the body of the "scarlet"colored beast are given to us in scripture. The Red Dragon and the scarlet colored beast are that color because they have been “marked” by "sin", or "sinful"behavior; just as sin is the “mark” of the man/beast being the "nature" of his spirit.

These being "of" the "world" are also born of "flesh", and are "carnally" minded; "earthly", "sensual", and "devilish" and will do the "lusts" of their father the Devil= sinful behavior. Those who are of the world, are also of the Prince and spirit of this world, and are guided by and empowered by his wicked spirit. These carnally minded men by this "spirit of covering" are given the heart and mind like a "natural" brute beast.

It is written in Ecclesiastes 3:18 “I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are "beasts.”

We know this beast nature has been around for some time now, and is not limited to the very last days, even though "it" is gaining more and more disciples by "deception". Many men held in high regard by their peers in this world can also fit the profile as shown in Psalm 49:20“Man that is in honour, and "understandeth not", is like the "beasts" that perish.”

Jesus showed us in the parable of “that man” how this “wicked generation” or the "last state" of mankind would be worse than his first state; just as it is written evil men and deceivers would also wax worse and worse. 2 Timothy 3:13 “But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.”

We know this Beast mentality was present during Jesus and the apostle’s time, as is witnessed by the apostles themselves: just as one characteristic of these "natural"brute beast (natural man) would be they also "understand not" the spiritual things of God. In the Old Testament this lack of knowledge is called “brutish”.

Paul fought with those carnally minded men who were of the body of the scarlet beast, and of the synagogue of Satan, at Ephesus; whose "manner" is of men. 1 Corinthians 15:32 “If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus,…”

Just as I have fought with “beasts” on Internet forums.

This same mannerism working in the first natural man is empowered by the Red Dragon, giving these "carnally minded" men preachers, teachers, prophets, politicians, scientists, and even world leaders a place and seat of authority for a time in this world. This manner and power is of the Serpent being cunning and crafty, with words often times as smooth as oil.

The son’s nature is like his father’s nature, as the scarlet beasts nature is as the Devils nature and doing his desire as well. Just as the serpent was more "subtil" than any other beast of the field which the Lord God had made, so too are those who belong to the beast. The Devil is also known as the Prince of the power of the air= false doctrine breathed and moved by his spirit= wind. Ephesians 4:14 “That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and "cunning craftiness", whereby they lie in wait to deceive;”

And again the characteristics and nature of those who are of the Beast are spoken of by the apostles,
these being evil and "unable to understand" the spiritual things of God, because they are still in the "flesh" and in "sin", and thereby still in darkness.

2 Peter 2:12 “But these, as "natural brute beasts", made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they "understand not"; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;”

Jude 1:10 “But these speak evil of those things "which they know not": but what they know "naturally", as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.”

1 Corinthians 2:14 “But the "natural man" receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: "neither can he know them", because they are spiritually discerned.

1 John 4:6 “We are of God: he that knoweth God "heareth us"; he that is not of God "heareth not us." Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and "the spirit of error.”

So those who have the mark of the man/beast will not understand the spiritual things of God.

Try the spirits and see if they are truly of God, Peace and God bless.
 
Now let me share with you a mystery, which the Lord has revealed to me concerning the image of the man/beast.

It is written in
Revelation 13:15
And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.”

So what is the false prophet spirit giving life to, and how can he by the power of the red Dragon give life to anything? After all, only God can give Life.

The Devil is said to have the power of death, not the power of Life. So that means the deception is, the false prophet spirit is preaching a doctrine that proclaims to bring life, but really it brings death.

So what is being embraced and revived in the world and also in mankind? It is sin.

Listen to what Paul says here in

Romans 7:9

King James Version

9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

This is the sign of the man of lawlessness being revealed in them.

This is the same lie the Serpent used in the beginning, that you can sin and not die.

Genesis 3:4
And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
 

Galatians 2:17-18

King James Version

17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.
18 For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.”

The warning is clear, do not revive sin.
 
This evil spirit in this video proves the point I have been trying to show people concerning the image that is being worshiped in the Revelation.

The image that is being worshipped is SELF, as sin is self serving.

Listen to what this evil spirits says in the video…

 
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