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Why was Jesus temped?

lentz

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Jesus was God in the flesh,perfect and holy. There was no way he could have failed and given in to temptations.
He went through the temptations to prove he was the Messiah. If he sinned he wasnt the one sent. That was its only purpose
 
Jesus was God in the flesh,perfect and holy. There was no way he could have failed and given in to temptations.
He went through the temptations to prove he was the Messiah. If he sinned he wasnt the one sent. That was its only purpose
Paul disagrees - Jesus was also TEMPTED because He was HUMAN, and as a result he's ABLE to understand us in a deeply personal way as a result. Jesus couldn't be our SIN OFFERING without being one of us.
 
Paul disagrees - Jesus was also TEMPTED because He was HUMAN, and as a result he's ABLE to understand us in a deeply personal way as a result. Jesus couldn't be our SIN OFFERING without being one of us.

Paul doesnt disagree. Jesus was God. He already knew all there was to know. He didnt have to come to see what its like living here.
 
He was led by the Spirit to be tempted ( which is to try, or make trial of, or to be tested) of the devil

Mat 4:1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

Jesus being a "tried stone" and after the devil had ended all temptation there Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit to Galilee
 
He was led by the Spirit to be tempted ( which is to try, or make trial of, or to be tested) of the devil

Mat 4:1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

Jesus being a "tried stone" and after the devil had ended all temptation there Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit to Galilee

Believe it your way. I wont argue.
 
Believe it your way. I wont argue.

I dont want to argue by posting a scripture, I want to believe it God's way.

Jesus being a tried stone is shown here

Isaiah 28:16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.

Jesus being shown being tempted of the devil is shown here

Mat 4:1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

When the devil ended all the temptation is shown here

Luke 4:13 And when the devil had ended all the temptation, he departed from him for a season.

And right after that (next verse) Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit here

Luke 4:14 And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.

I didn't post all the verses asuming you would be familair with the scriptures I was referencing

For example, in this verse here (again)

Mat 4:1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted G3985 of the devil.

If you click on the word there is where you find the posted definition I listed which is

Tempted G3985

To try whether a thing can be done
To try, make trial of, test: for the purpose of ascertaining his quality, or what he thinks, or how he will behave himself
 
I dont want to argue by posting a scripture, I want to believe it God's way.

Jesus being a tried stone is shown here

Isaiah 28:16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.

Jesus being shown being tempted of the devil is shown here

Mat 4:1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

When the devil ended all the temptation is shown here

Luke 4:13 And when the devil had ended all the temptation, he departed from him for a season.

And right after that (next verse) Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit here

Luke 4:14 And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.

I didn't post all the verses asuming you would be familair with the scriptures I was referencing

For example, in this verse here (again)

Mat 4:1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted G3985 of the devil.

If you click on the word there is where you find the posted definition I listed which is

Tempted G3985

To try whether a thing can be done
To try, make trial of, test: for the purpose of ascertaining his quality, or what he thinks, or how he will behave himself
That definition of tempted could be "proven".
If there was the slightest chance Christ could be tempted,he couldnt be the one.
 
Just as Jesus was being tempted of Satan, men also tempted him

Mark 1:13 And he was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted of Satan; and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered unto him.

Mark 12:15 Shall we give, or shall we not give? But he, knowing their hypocrisy, said unto them, Why tempt ye me? bring me a penny, that I may see it.

Mat 22:18 But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, ye hypocrites?

Luke 20:23 But he perceived their craftiness, and said unto them, Why tempt ye me?

Hebrews 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are,
yet without sin.
 
So then the temptation was like i said, not to see if he would sin. But to prove he couldn't. He is God in the flesh.

I don't know what you are referring to, but the scripture says the following concerning his being tempted

Hebrews 2:16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

Hebrews 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

Hebrews 2:18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.
 
As it says he suffered being tempted and being able to succour them that are tempted likewise it says,
of Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death

Hebrews 2:10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory,
to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.


Hebrews 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;

Hebrews 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him
 
Christ had the opportunity but not the desire. Desire to sin is our problem. Christ had no such desire. His desire was to please the Father.
He could have turned the stones to bread. But he didnt yield to it. Because he does not have sinful desires.
Another point that may be helpful. Jesus was not born into sin from Adam such as we. But the very son of God.
 
That definition of tempted could be "proven".
If there was the slightest chance Christ could be tempted,he couldnt be the one.

What is being spoken of is called the Hypostatic Union, where Jesus, the human baby of the house of David, is born and the Word/Son that is the Lord comes to dwell (Skeenoo-ti pitch tent) Incarnate. So the man Christ Jesus had a normal human body which was able to be tempted but God was in him reconciling the world unto Himself.
 
What is being spoken of is called the Hypostatic Union, where Jesus, the human baby of the house of David, is born and the Word/Son that is the Lord comes to dwell (Skeenoo-ti pitch tent) Incarnate. So the man Christ Jesus had a normal human body which was able to be tempted but God was in him reconciling the world unto Himself.

Perhaps i should have said Christ could be tempted but could not give in to temptation because there was no sin in him
 
Jesus was God in the flesh,perfect and holy. There was no way he could have failed and given in to temptations.
He went through the temptations to prove he was the Messiah. If he sinned he wasnt the one sent. That was its only purpose
This temptation sets a pattern for all Christians to follow, as we all face such temptations as a test from God. For Jesus, it was His rite of passage, the start of his ministry. Another purpose is to strike a stark contrast to Adam who gave in to the temptation, while Jesus, the second Adam, overcame it.
 
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Jesus was made / created inside Mary as the seed DNA and genetic hereditary of her ancestors going back to King David

Heb 9:13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer
sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: :14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God -

NOT THROUGH A PERFECT BODY


Act 2:30 God had sworn with an oath to him, that
of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

Yahoshua defines the terms in His message - by saying that He does nothing of His own self - saying that I can do nothing whatsoever of my own doing. -

I do not have any power of miracles, of my own " - I do not have a will of my own that guides to do what God has commanded me - must submit and give up my own desires. my temptations must be overcome

I CANNOT DO anything, whatsoever - OF MY OWN, - Saying that it is the father only, that does the miracles and the works.
Saying - why do you call me " good " ? - - " There is NO ONE good but God alone "

Every time He spoke of his own will, power, majesty and desire and purpose " we find that He denied his physical bodily abilities to do anything whatsoever concerning the will of God.


Joh 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek NOT MINE OWN WILL, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. I AM NOT RELYING UPON THE POWER OF MY OWN QUALITIES PASSED DOWN FROM MY MOTHER - I have no power but to deny my own personal will and submit to the will of the spirt of God

Yahoshua - could never be justified in the FLESH ALONE: - but only
through the eternal Spirit - was his offered sacrifice without spot to God, not by his flesh and blood and will.

Joh 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; - the flesh profiteth nothing: - the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
 
When I was very young in the Lord I knew Jesus (God) had come to this earth in the form of a man. He took upon himself flesh and bone just as we are. We know Jesus was tempted just like we are yet without sin.

Heb 4:15 For we have not a high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; BUT WAS IN ALL POINTS TEMPTED LIKE AS WE ARE, YET WITHOUT SIN.

The Bible tells us that God can NOT be tempted with evil, so how could this be if Jesus was God in the flesh ever be tempted?

Jas 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for GOD CANNOT BE TEMPTED WITH EVIL, neither tempteth he any man:

We must always remember that Jesus emptied himself to be made like men who could be tempted. Jesus in the form of a man was still God yet he did not rely on his divinity to carry out His Father's will.

Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Php 2:7 But MADE HIMSELF OF NO REPUTATION, AND TOOK UPON HIM THE FORM OF A SERVANT, AND WAS MADE IN THE LIKENESS OF MEN:
Here is a very interesting scripture that sheds more light about temptations.

1Co 10:13 THERE HATH NO TEMPTATION TAKEN YOU BUT SUCH AS IS COMMON TO MAN: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

All temptations come to the part of man that is common to us all. What do all men have that is common to us all? All men have a “human” nature, but not all men have a “divine” nature. Only born-again children have a divine nature, and a human nature. Our divine nature is Jesus Christ in us.

Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I LIVE; YET NOT I, BUT CHRIST LIVETH IN ME: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.

2Co 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. KNOW YE NOT YOUR OWN SELVES, HOW THAT JESUS CHRIST IS IN YOU, except ye be reprobates?

The “divine” nature in us can never be tempted to sin because God can not be tempted to sin!

1Jn 3:9 WHOSOEVER IS BORN OF GOD DOTH NOT COMMIT SIN; for his seed remaineth in him: and HE CANNOT SIN, because he is born of God.

Even though Christ in us can never sin, the human nature of man can! When a person gets “born-again” they receive a new heart (new spirit). Born again by the incorruptible seed of the Word of God through the Spirit of God. Our physical body stays the same which is corruptible with sin. The Apostle Paul said.

Rom 7:18 FOR I KNOW THAT IN ME (THAT IS, IN MY FLESH,) DWELLETH NO GOOD THING: for to will is present with me, but how to perform that which is good I find not.
Rom 7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
Rom 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, IT IS NO MORE I THAT DO IT, BUT SIN THAT DWELLETH IN ME.

After Jesus was baptized by John he (Jesus) was led into the desert to be “tempted” by the devil. After 40 days of not eating the Bible says, “Jesus was hungry”
James the brother of Jesus said this in his epistle....

Jas 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, God neither tempteth he any man:
Jas 1:14 But EVERY MAN IS TEMPTED, WHEN HE IS DRAWN AWAY OF HIS OWN LUST and enticed.

The word, “LUST” here means, “STRONG DESIRE”. It can be associated with anything evil, or good.
You can have a "strong desire" to do good and the devil can try to stop you from doing it, by causing you to move in a way in which God is not leading.
Jesus spoke about a time in which people will say unto him, "Lord have we not prophesied in your name, and in your name cast out devil and do many wonderful works?"

Jesus tells them,

Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, HAVE WE NOT PROPHESIED IN THY NAME? AND IN THY NAME HAVE CAST OUT DEVILS? AND IN THY NAME DONE MANY WONDERFUL WORKS?
Mat 7:23 And then will I PROFESS UNTO THEM, I NEVER KNEW YOU: DEPART FROM ME, YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.

These things in themselves are not bad, in fact, Jesus said these things (works, signs) would follow those who "believe". (Mark 16:17-18) Jesus said these works are "iniquity". If the Lord did not lead them into doing them. These people said, "....Lord, did WE not do these things...". Righteousness is what God does through a person, not what (WE) people decide to do on their own when "WE" decided to do them!

Jesus had a “STRONG DESIRE” to eat food!

Luk 4:2 Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he AFTERWARD HUNGERED.

The very first “temptation” of Jesus came as he had a "strong desire" to eat.

Luk 4:3 And the DEVIL SAID UNTO HIM, If thou be the Son of God, COMMAND THIS STONE THAT IT BE MADE BREAD.
Luk 4:4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

Jesus's divine nature in him did not need to eat any physical food to stay alive, but his human body needed food to stay alive. Bread alone is not enough to sustain physical life. Jesus was being "tempted" by being "ENTICED" to do something outside of what His Father was doing. Remember Jesus said that he only does what he sees his Father doing and that he only speaks what he hears his Father say, for the Father loves the Son and shows him everything he does.

Joh 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, THE SON CAN DO NOTHING OF HIMSELF, BUT WHAT HE SEETH THE FATHER DO: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
Joh 5:20 FOR THE FATHER LOVETH THE SON, AND SHEWETH HIM ALL THINGS THAT HIMSELF DOETH: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.
Joh 14:10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? THE WORDS I SPEAK ARE NOT MY OWN, but my Father who lives in me does his work through me. (NLT)

Jesus's second temptation was to cast himself down from a high place so His Angels would catch him from harm thus proving to the onlookers he really was the Son of God. Jesus had a "strong desire" to prove himself to be the Son of God.

Mat 4:5 Then the devil took him to the holy city, Jerusalem, to the highest point of the Temple,
Mat 4:6 and said, “IF YOU ARE THE SON OF GOD, jump off! For the Scriptures say, ‘He will order his angels to protect you. And they will hold you up with their hands so you won’t even hurt your foot on a stone.’”

Jesus had a "STRONG DESIRE" to prove he was the Son of God, but not by jumping from the top of the temple in Jerusalem. The only person who can reveal who Jesus truly is was His Father. As it says in scripture, "Let another praise you and not your own lips"

Pro 27:2 LET ANOTHER PERSON PRAISE YOU, AND NOT YOUR OWN MOUTH. Let someone else praise you, and not your own lips. (NirV)

Jesus asked.....

Mat 16:15 HE SAITH UNTO THEM, BUT WHOM SAY YE THAT I AM?
Mat 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, THOU ART THE CHRIST, THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD.
Mat 16:17 And JESUS ANSWERED and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: FOR FLESH AND BLOOD HATH NOT REVEALED IT UNTO THEE, BUT MY FATHER which is in heaven.

What Jesus said was what His Father said to him in response in his temptation.
God the Father had made a way of escape for His Son Jesus!

Jas 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust (strong desire), and enticed. (emphasis added by me.)

1Co 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but GOD IS FAITHFUL, WHO WILL NOT SUFFER YOU TO BE TEMPTED ABOVE THAT YE ARE ABLE; but will with the temptation also MAKE A WAY TO ESCAPE, that ye may be able to bear it.

Mat 4:7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, THOU SHALT NOT TEMPT THE LORD THY GOD.

God the Father spoke through his Son.

Jesus's third temptation was to worship the devil and that would have created a shortcut to restoring the kingdom of this world, and its glory to its creator! Jesus had a “STRONG DESIRE” to destroy the works of the devil and to restore back to man what God had given him in the beginning.

Luk 4:5 And the DEVIL, TAKING HIM UP INTO AN HIGH MOUNTAIN, SHEWED UNTO HIM ALL THE KINGDOMS OF THE WORLD in a moment of time.
Luk 4:6 And THE DEVIL SAID UNTO HIM, ALL THIS POWER WILL I GIVE THEE, AND THE GLORY OF THEM: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.

Luk 4:7 IF THOU THEREFORE WILT WORSHIP ME, ALL SHALL BE THINE.

God the Father again gives Jesus a means of escape by Jesus speaking what he heard His Father say.

Luk 4:8 And JESUS ANSWERED AND SAID unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, THOU SHALT WORSHIP THE LORD THY GOD, AND HIM ONLY SHALT THOU SERVE.
Mat 4:11 Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him
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We have more insight into how Jesus overcame the devil when he was being tempted.
Not only did Jesus speak what he heard his father say (which is how God the Father provides us a means of escape), but Jesus also did this.....

2Co 10:4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)
2Co 10:5 CASTING DOWN IMAGINATIONS, AND EVERY HIGH THING THAT EXALTETH ITSELF AGAINST THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD, AND BRINGING INTO CAPTIVITY EVERY THOUGHT TO THE OBEDIENCE OF CHRIST;

The weapons God provides us when being tempted are not of the flesh, but a mighty "sword' of the Spirit that the devil can not stand against!
We normally don't think that temptations can come when we have a strong desire to do good. They can and do come and the devil is right there to try to get to you wander off on your own based on your own will and not the will of God.

Sorry for such a long post.
 
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