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YOGA for Fitness ( is of SOME VALUE)

msoh

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Recent news over YOGA coming from the Malaysian Fatwa has attracted a lot of Christian attention. The Islamic authorities have issued a ruling, known as a fatwa, instructing the country's Muslims to avoid yoga because of its Hindu roots.

What does the Christian faith has to say on this?

To most people yoga is simply a sport - a stress-busting start for the day. However Malaysia's National Fatwa Council said it goes further than that and that elements of the Indian religion are inherent in yoga. The original yoga does practice chanting and some form of worshipping which are inappropriate and they could "destroy the faith of a Muslim".

Many Christians share the same views with the Muslims. But yet, an equally amount of Christian are puzzles, some totally agree with the Muslims and some somewhat disagree. But I have yet to come across one that totally agrees that YOGA is perfectly okay for Christians. Or am I wrong? Is there anyone out there who dares to come forward to say it is okay? (Be ready to be crucified by the religious teacher………but don’t worry, I am behind you.)

A. What Does The Bible Say About Exercise?

1Timothy 4:8 Physical exercise has some value, but spiritual exercise is valuable in every way, because it promises life both for the present and for the future.(Good News Bible –GBB)

Notice that the verse does not say that exercise has no value! It says that exercise is valuable, but it term of priorities, godliness is of greater value.

Paul also mentions physical training in his teaching. 2 Timothy 2:5 ,4:7 and 1Cor 9:25-27 If physical training is not acceptable and is taboo, why mention that it has value.

There is nothing wrong with a Christian exercising. In 1Corinthians 6:19-20 clearly explains that believers must take good care of their bodies. [Don't you know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, who lives in you and who is given to you by God? You do not belong to yourself but to God; he bought you for a price. So use your body for God's glory…GNB]

Also we find in Eph 5:29-20 None of us ever hate our own body. Instead, we feed them, and take care of them, just as Christ does for the church; for we are members of his body. The bible also explains that we are to avoid gluttony. [Pro 23:2 If you have a big appetite, restrain yourself…GNB]

What does the Bible say about health? Be healthy! How do we achieve that goal? By engaging in moderate exercise and eating reasonably. That is the Biblical pattern of health and exercise.

B. OK You Prove That Exercise Is Okay, But Can We Do Yoga?

This is a very good question indeed. But let do a bit of divergence to magnify this paranoia of Christians that God can be boxed into a box by posing similar questions for us to answer. By doing so, we can see a pattern of boxing our Mighty God inside a small box but yet we still call our God Mighty.

Can we visit a doctor? Should we stop attending the Olympic games? Can we visit Chinese temples? Or Hindu temples?

VISIT DOCTORS? OH NO!, That is sorcery cry out many churches. That is ASKLEPIOS (or Asclepius). Known as the god of medicine and reputed ancestor of the Asklepiades, the ancient Greek doctors' guild. Asklepios was depicted as a kind, bearded man holding a serpent-entwined staff. He is almost completely absent from ancient Greek vase painting, but statues of the god are quite common.

But hold your brakes……medicine existed before Askelpois. Luke is a Physician himself. But Jesus handpicks Luke to be his disciple. He did not destroy any physicians or chased off physicians like he chased off the traders, money changers and scolded the Pharisees.

VISIT THE OLYMPIC GAMES? OH NO! HERAKLES was the leader of the Daktyloi, five ancient daimones who founded the Olympic Games in the age of Kronos. They were probably associated specifically with the race in armour, one of the oldest of Olympic events, for like the Kouretes, they were pictured as armoured youths.

VISIT CHINESE TEMPLE S / HINDU TEMPLES? OH NO, those places are full of spirits that can harm you. God has given us a Spirit that is greater than evil spirits. God gave us the light to shine the darkness away. He did not give us the light to hide it under our bed. [2Co 4:6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. Luk 8:16 No man, when he hath lighted a candle, covereth it with a vessel, or putteth it under a bed; but setteth it on a candlestick, that they which enter in may see the lig]

Our God is not weak. Can you imagine, when you enter a temple, God will stay outside and say to you………….Go in alone Michael, I can’t follow you. The Spirit in the temple is too strong for me. I will wait for you. This is obviously preposterous. Our God is bigger than the Temple. He is not small and without powers to protect you.

CONCLUSION: We can go on and on, but the fact is everything is given to us by God to enjoy. And everything that is given to us, is also abused by the Satan. Just because Satan abuses what is given to us by God, do we withdraw and stay away from the good things that God richly gave us to enjoy. [Ti 6:17 Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not high minded; nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy; ] IF it is a true teaching and the way forward, than we should stop worshiping or singing praises as Lucifer is the worship leader. The heathens also worship and if they have tainted the holiness of worship, shouldn’t we stop worshiping. Shouldn’t we also stop eating, as foods are also used by the heathens to offer to their false god

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The above diagram shows how we make our God small with our twisted perspective of God. God is smaller than issues we have on our hand. Why do we have this wrong perspective? I believe Satan and his cohorts have distorted our mind to believe our God is small. Smaller than the problems that we are facing.

Let us stop this wrong perspective of ours today. Believe that our Heavenly Father is bigger than our mind can conceive. No Yoga gods, No Olympic gods, Medical gods are acceptable to Christians, but these fake gods cannot stop us from enjoying exercise, sports or to bring babe Christians to see doctors........all these are given to us by God to enjoy. (Babe Christians are Christian that are not skill full with the word Righteousness. Babe Christians are Christian that believe righteousness is achieve by self effort. Generaly Righteousness from Christ is rejected by all Babe Christians.........Heb 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskillfull in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. )



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The more restriction we self imposed ourselves, the happier Satan is with us. Imagine, we set rules that are frame on the basis that Christ is smaller than Satan’s cohorts. We limit our moves like a chess game. We let Satan’s cohorts control the board. Every space is control by them. There is no chess piece that you can advance safely. Each piece that you move, gets clobber up by Satan’s cohorts. What a sad picture.
Wake up! Christ is bigger than Satan. Satan is already defeated. Don’t bring him back to play with him again. By pass him and head towards Christ bodly.
 
There are few acceptions to winning a game of chess without loosing one, or more peices along the way to victory.

Victory in the overall game is the objective. Not overconcerning ones-self with a lost battle along the way.

LoJ
 
Yoga

No you are wrong about the Yoga exercises they are not good to do as certain if not all are positions of their gods and really demons!! I know cause I did it and got very ill!!So please bros and sisters stay away!!lLove and Truth, Love sister
 
yoga again

also I forgot on the Yoga issue we as Christians should not get involved with any other religion as it has a generational connection to that religion.A curse basically I know many that have after a long period of time of doing all different kinds of yoga became ill and or mental problems because of demons,open door to them and a false peace for awhile is felt,but then going crazy eventually!!Only Jesus gives peace thru his Holy spirit!!Only need to meditate on Gods word!!Truth!!Love Sister!
 
... religion. ...open door to them and a false peace for awhile is felt,but then going crazy eventually!! Only Jesus gives peace thru his Holy spirit!!Only need to meditate on Gods word!!Truth!!Love Sister!


Greater is He that is in you, than he that is in the world ; )

LoJ
 
Why you shouldnt do yoga

Hi, this is my first post on JT, and i came across this, so i thought id give my account on Yoga. ive had a look at some of the txts you guys have written but im going to give you my personal experience of what happened to me.

to start off with a friend of mine Got into witch craft, and i ended up having a nervous breakdown and was followed around by a demon for 3 years, in the process of being followed around i was decieved. i found on the internet that Taichi can cure depression so i took it up. Taichi is like Yoga, to put it simply, its a combat form of Yoga which is used for both health and combat.

from my experience from what happend to me, the mind exercises are playing into satans hands, when u relax the mind u start to unlock things u wish you hadnt, this is how satan attacks Gods image in us, and is full on demonic. It can get u possessed and is linked to alot of the occult, even shamanism, voodoo ect....

from the physical piont of view it puts you under spiritual energies that in taichi u can control, but in yoga you experience. These energies i discribe as drinking of a demon, and in the bible it does say ''you cannot drink the cup of a demon and the cup of the Lord aswell'' and ''behind every idol is a demon'' sorry i dont know where these txts are, but they are in there.

from a religous piont of view, taichi is toist, that came from bhudism arts, which starts with Yoga. it doesnt matter if you take it up religously or not, in Gods eyes both taichi and Yoga are part of darkness, tought by demons and is idolism. from what i was doing it did involve a curse.

while i was breaking free from this i was under spiritual attack for a few months. i had experiences of deep depression, suicidal thought even when i wasnt depressed, and very freaky nightmares of things that werent human. I also had a massive head ache that was constant, and found when i went for prayer there was somekind of spirit resting on my nerves. (very dangerous)

In my experience Yoga or any asian exercise or any related to both Yoga or taichi is satanic pure and simple. It is part of darkness and shouldnt be touched. Also from what i learnt, satan handles the mind, and anything spiritual from God works through the heart.
it is with the Holy spirit that we have spiritual gifts and if we are capable of anything else spiritual is through the mind and therefore part of satans work.

My advice. STAY AWAY FROM YOGA!
 
Yoga

<DIR>Hi Freedom Fighta

Can find the bible verse for cup drinking but not ( and I dont think it is in the bible that behind every idol, is a demon. I personally, believe idol is just a useless object and they outnumber the demons, which explain, not necessarily, every piece of useless idol / object has a demon)


1Co 10:21
You cannot drink from the cup of demons and still drink from the Lord's cup. You cannot eat at the table of demons and still eat at the Lord's table.

IF you read 1Corinthian Chapter 10, you understand that it is about keeping away from Idols. By exercising and doing stretch exercising , you need not necessarily practise YOGA. But every form of stretch exercise can be found in YOGA. The same, as every form of worship, you have the heathens or the satan worshipers doing the same. So do you stop worshiping because, the Satan has profane woshiping? Lucifer himself is the chief worshiper before he felt.

Christians/ believers are not idol worshipers. But practising stretch exercise, is by no means a YOGA dominated space. It is not a space you cannot go in.

BESIDES,
1Jn 4:4
You are of God, my little children, and you have overcome them because he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.


If Christ is in you and He is greater than the one in the world, how can you fall sick because you do stretch exercise.

Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwelleth in you, he that raised up Christ Jesus from the dead shall give life also to your mortal bodies through his Spirit that dwelleth in you.


The HOLY SPIRIT that dwelleth in me is not a looser. If I practise Stretch exercise, it cannot exposed the Holy Spirit that dwelleth in me, He cannot be defeated by the demonic powers.

Likewise, the Holy Spirit nevers run away from me

Heb 13:5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.

MSoh
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