Are we Gentiles

[Reba1]

Exo 19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
Exo 19:6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.


1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
1Pe 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
1Pe 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
1Pe 2:10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

It may be a simple matter of semantics. I just dont believe Christians who are children of God should label themselves as gentiles. Being born again is a big deal. The blood in my veins does not define me . The Blood shed on the Cross does . Israeli, Arab, Oriental, European, Hispanic , African , human blood does not define who we are in Christ .

Gal_3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

 

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Exo 19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
Exo 19:6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.


1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
1Pe 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
1Pe 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
1Pe 2:10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

It may be a simple matter of semantics. I just don't believe Christians who are children of God should label themselves as gentiles. Being born again is a big deal. The blood in my veins does not define me . The Blood shed on the Cross does . Israeli, Arab, Oriental, European, Hispanic , African , human blood does not define who we are in Christ .

Gal_3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Hi @Reba1,

I was born in Wales in the UK, and my parents were native to the UK too, so by definition I am not a Jew, so therefore whether I like the term or not, I am in Biblical terms, a Gentile by birth. Simply by believing on the Lord Jesus Christ as my Saviour and Lord, and being saved by God's grace, does not alter that fact.

In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Garee]

Balaam said:-
'How shall I curse, whom God hath not cursed?
or how shall I defy, whom the LORD hath not defied?
For from the top of the rocks I see him,
and from the hills I behold him:
lo, the people (Israel) shall dwell alone,
and shall not be reckoned among the nations.
(Numbers 23:8-9)

Hello @Reba1,

Israel is a nation apart, and is not to be numbered among the nations.
The word Gentiles (G1484 & H1471), used of the nations, makes that God ordained distinction clear.

Praise God!

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

All Israel is not born again Israel just as all who name the name Christian are not born again Christians .The bible defines the words used .

I would offer my understanding looking at (Numbers 23:8-9.)

And shall not be reckoned among the nations Israel as just another of the multitude of pagan nations or families but one nation of nations or family of all the families signified after the Holy Father of all nations giving meaning to the word Abraham. Not according to the flesh of a outward Jew but one that does have the Spirt of Christ inwardly seeing if any man of any nation has not the born again spirit then they do not belong to Christ according to Romans .

All of Israel as the bride of Christ is not born again Israel according the one meaning of the word Israel. A person who does wrestles and against flesh and blood of nations and because they have the Spirit of Christ in them they can overcome as the lord empowers them to do so . The father as promised renamed the bride Christian in the bok of Acts .A more fiting name to represent all the nations . Christian a demonym which identifies people by places without any other meaning added as a foundation mean Residents of the city of Christ prepared as the His wife named after her founder Christ.

Previously as a outward Jew according to the flesh called him Jacob the deceiver . Jacob had no power with God


Genesis 32:28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.

 

[Reba1]

Hi @Reba1,

I was born in Wales in the UK, and my parents were native to the UK too, so by definition I am not a Jew, so therefore whether I like the term or not, I am in Biblical terms, a Gentile by birth. Simply by believing on the Lord Jesus Christ as my Saviour and Lord, and being saved by God's grace, does not alter that fact.

In Christ Jesus
Chris

Being a Christian is about born again not our physical birth .

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

The Bible informs us that Abram's father was a Amorite and mother a Hittite . Sarah had two nations of families in her . A Christian family is a nation .When two or three gather togethter under the hearing of the faith of Christ is there working in them.

Christianity the nation of many nation giving meaning to Abraham (the father of many nations or denominations) We are in the bosom of Abraham or the invisible presence that indwells a believer.

Nephilim are men of renown giants of faith like David , Moses, Samuel men used mightily empowered by God they can be any height there are no height requires in a human race or birth defects that could keep a person from God doing the mighty work of saving them

David a man of renown defeated the enemies renown called Goliath who was taller on one end . Our God guided the little stone that fell their renown

.Words like renown have meaning attached to them The word "renown" is is used 9 times in the Old testament and not once is it in reference to taller mankind or six fingers devils .

I need you to show that in the bible please.....It don't make sense otherwise.... Nepthilim are not men of renown n that sense...Nephilim are not even human... Goliath was taller on one end? Which end was taller? Please give scripture to back up your assertions

 

[Garee]

I need you to show that in the bible please.....It don't make sense otherwise.... Nepthilim are not men of renown n that sense...Nephilim are not even human... Goliath was taller on one end? Which end was taller? Please give scripture to back up your assertions

If they are called men as in mankind like in the opening statement of Chapter 6 you can be sure they are human . Why would anyone think differently ? perhaps Hollywood might?

Genesis 6:1 Now it happened, when men began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them

It has nothing to do with another creation other than human kind. Humans are not mixed with other beast of the field .

Its a warning not to be un-evenly yoked with unbelievers called daughters of men.

Note. . . Sons of God born again believers.

Note . . . .daughter on men natural unconverted mankind .

Genesis 6: 4 AMP There were Nephilim (men of stature, notorious men) on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God lived with the daughters of men, and they gave birth to their children. These were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown (great reputation, fame).

There were mighty of men of old before and after and even today men are called by God The commandment is to not be unevenly yoked .

Men that were moved by the faith of Christ that dwelt in them where mingling with unbelievers and jeopardizing the spiritual born again seed "Christ" in them ..

Genesis 6 in a nut shell below .

2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

If they are called men as in mankind like in the opening statement of Chapter 6 you can be sure they are human . Why would anyone think differently ? perhaps Hollywood might?

Genesis 6:1 Now it happened, when men began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them

It has nothing to do with another creation other than human kind. Humans are not mixed with other beast of the field .

Its a warning not to be un-evenly yoked with unbelievers called daughters of men.

Note. . . Sons of God born again believers.

Note . . . .daughter on men natural unconverted mankind .

Genesis 6: 4 AMP There were Nephilim (men of stature, notorious men) on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God lived with the daughters of men, and they gave birth to their children. These were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown (great reputation, fame).

There were mighty of men of old before and after and even today men are called by God The commandment is to not be unevenly yoked .

Men that were moved by the faith of Christ that dwelt in them where mingling with unbelievers and jeopardizing the spiritual born again seed "Christ" in them ..

Genesis 6 in a nut shell below .

2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

You have NOT given any scripture proving that Abrahams father was Amorite or his mother Hittite.....It's not in the bible, is it? The Amorites and the Hittites both were INHUMAN giants...The mighty men mentioned in Genesis were inhuman Nephilim, many of whom were Raphaim (giants)....

 

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Being a Christian is about born again not our physical birth .

Hello @Reba1,

Yes, as a believer I am born from above, and my spiritual home is in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: but according to the flesh I am still Welsh by birth, and a citizen of the UK. That cannot be denied. Paul never denied his citizenship (Acts 21:39), or his line of descent, in the flesh (Romans 11:1 & Philippians 3:5). But he was a Jew, and would be a Jew regardless of where he lived, for his is a race apart. And I cannot deny that according to the Scriptural definition, I am a gentile according to the flesh.

Thank you Reba

 

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All Israel is not born again Israel just as all who name the name Christian are not born again Christians .The bible defines the words used .

I would offer my understanding looking at (Numbers 23:8-9.)

And shall not be reckoned among the nations Israel as just another of the multitude of pagan nations or families but one nation of nations or family of all the families signified after the Holy Father of all nations giving meaning to the word Abraham. Not according to the flesh of a outward Jew but one that does have the Spirt of Christ inwardly seeing if any man of any nation has not the born again spirit then they do not belong to Christ according to Romans .

All of Israel as the bride of Christ is not born again Israel according the one meaning of the word Israel. A person who does wrestles and against flesh and blood of nations and because they have the Spirit of Christ in them they can overcome as the lord empowers them to do so . The father as promised renamed the bride Christian in the bok of Acts .A more fiting name to represent all the nations . Christian a demonym which identifies people by places without any other meaning added as a foundation mean Residents of the city of Christ prepared as the His wife named after her founder Christ.

Previously as a outward Jew according to the flesh called him Jacob the deceiver . Jacob had no power with God


Genesis 32:28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.

'How shall I curse, whom God hath not cursed?
or how shall I defy, whom the LORD hath not defied?
For from the top of the rocks I see him,
and from the hills I behold him:
lo, the people shall dwell alone,
and shall not be reckoned among the nations.
Who can count the dust of Jacob,
and the number of the fourth part of Israel?
Let me die the death of the righteous,
and let my last end be like his!'
(Numbers 23:8-10)

Hello @Garee,

Thank you for your response.

But, with respect, I believe that Numbers 23:8-10 should be read and understood within it's context.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[BunnyOnion]

If they are called men as in mankind like in the opening statement of Chapter 6 you can be sure they are human . Why would anyone think differently ? perhaps Hollywood might?

Genesis 6:1 Now it happened, when men began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them

It has nothing to do with another creation other than human kind. Humans are not mixed with other beast of the field .

Its a warning not to be un-evenly yoked with unbelievers called daughters of men.

Note. . . Sons of God born again believers.

Note . . . .daughter on men natural unconverted mankind .

Genesis 6: 4 AMP There were Nephilim (men of stature, notorious men) on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God lived with the daughters of men, and they gave birth to their children. These were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown (great reputation, fame).

There were mighty of men of old before and after and even today men are called by God The commandment is to not be unevenly yoked .

Men that were moved by the faith of Christ that dwelt in them where mingling with unbelievers and jeopardizing the spiritual born again seed "Christ" in them ..

Genesis 6 in a nut shell below .

2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

This may help the proof of Abraham, thy father was an Amorite, and thy mother an Hittite.


Ezekiel 16

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[Admon Mikha'el]

This may help the proof of Abraham, thy father was an Amorite, and thy mother an Hittite.


Ezekiel 16

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How does this apply to Abram/Abraham? The verses you give were written by Ezekiel who lived 500 years before Jesus.. about a city that was founded 4000 years before Jesus and built by Caananites (giants) Well the walls were at least but it makes no sense that they built the walls and no habitations. How is Abraham who was born 2000 years after the birth of Jerusalem involved at all?

 

[BunnyOnion]

This may help the proof of Abraham, thy father was an Amorite, and thy mother an Hittite.


Ezekiel 16

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And this too.

"
thy father [was] an Amorite, and thy mother an Hittite;
Abraham and Sarah, who were, properly speaking, the one the father, the other the mother, of the Jewish nation, were Chaldeans; and neither Amorites nor Hittites; yet, because they dwelt among them; are so called; ... More reading @ Source: Ezekiel 16:3 - Meaning and Commentary on Bible Verse

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

And this too.

"
thy father [was] an Amorite, and thy mother an Hittite;
Abraham and Sarah, who were, properly speaking, the one the father, the other the mother, of the Jewish nation, were Chaldeans; and neither Amorites nor Hittites; yet, because they dwelt among them; are so called; ... More reading @ Source: Ezekiel 16:3 - Meaning and Commentary on Bible Verse

Ok Dear one but that is not saying that Abrahams parents were Amorite and HIttite Jerusalems parents were

 

[BunnyOnion]

Ok Dear one but that is not saying that Abrahams parents were Amorite and HIttite Jerusalems parents were

It helps if you read the resource links. Don't comment unless you do. It isn't fair to people who go to the trouble when someone criticizes what they've no understanding of. Thanks.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

It helps if you read the resource links. Don't comment unless you do. It isn't fair to people who go to the trouble when someone criticizes what they've no understanding of. Thanks.

Ok I've read it again....four times and there is NO mention of Abraham or Abram....This was about Jerusalem.....Who was birthed by Caananites which includes Amorites and Hittites.... And I was not criticizing anybody..... It starts with "Say to JERUSALEM" Not say to Abraham....

 

[BunnyOnion]

Ok I've read it again....four times and there is NO mention of Abraham or Abram....This was about Jerusalem.....Who was birthed by Caananites which includes Amorites and Hittites.... And I was not criticizing anybody..... It starts with "Say to JERUSALEM" Not say to Abraham....

As you wish.

 

[Garee]

How does this apply to Abram/Abraham? The verses you give were written by Ezekiel who lived 500 years before Jesus.. about a city that was founded 4000 years before Jesus and built by Caananites (giants) Well the walls were at least but it makes no sense that they built the walls and no habitations. How is Abraham who was born 2000 years after the birth of Jerusalem involved at all?

Again it has nothing to do with giants that are not human .

No such animal. Sorry, sounds more like Hollywood and changeshifters .

If any man has not the Spirit of Christ than neither are they of that power needed to believe . Ezekiel 16 Simply reminding. The born again believers where they come from ; just like any other pagan family on earth that has no faith by which they could please God

.If any man has not the faith coming from Christ labor of love . . our understanding coming from Him. How could they please? Simply a call to repentance, comfort . The unbelieving Jew sees no value in the unseen things of God . Like Jesus revealed to the apostles it is the work of God working in and with his children that can profit .The flesh of itself has no power .(John 6)

Ezekiel 16 King James Version (KJV) Again the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations,
And say, Thus saith the Lord God unto Jerusalem; Thy birth and thy nativity is of the land of Canaan; thy father was an Amorite, and thy mother an Hittite.

Again reminding the believer they are sinners saved from the wage eternal death never to rise to new life.

Jesus the Son of man at the renting of the veil (sign of circummsion) did cause Jerusalem to know her abominations exposing their nakedness' when the veil was rent

Many heard at Pentecost the promise spoken through Joel, men and women prophets prophesying the gospel to the world .The new kingdoms of priests believers holding out a living hope to the world . Destroying all the kings of the earth .Re establishing Himself as the invisible King of kings, Father of father, Lord of lord to those who do walk by faith. . mixing or comparing the temporal thing seen with the unseen things of faith . . . our rest in him yoked with Emanuel

That is a work he performs in us to both will and empower us to please Him . Some do it joyfully other murmur all the way. ( Philippians 2:12-13) If he has begun the work of teaching us how to walk by faith so that we can seek after his approval he promises he will continue to teach comfort, guide and bring to our memory the things he has already taught. The gift of faith, yoking us to His love. ( Philippians 1:6)

In all cases God is speaking to those who do know and believe using demonyms' words that describe the residents in a city described by places they live..(location). Not nations as to the flesh and blood . But in the end of the matter to include the name the father named the bride Christian, the nation the nations made up of all families of the earth .

It was a curse against earthly Jerusalem a mountain (high place )that was in the land of Canaan and her abominations. . in anticipation of the new name the father promised to name the bride , the heavenly City, the new Jerusalem, Zion Israel or Christian the last and more befitting name. The nation of all nations signified by the word Abraham and the new name. Sarah . Sarah had two nations as generations ( beginnings) within her . Again it takes two to make one new nation or family . One seed the spirutl sed Christ. Not seeds many literal seed flesh and blood. Without the spiritual seed Christ it has no power.

It would seem the genealogy of the generation of spiritual incorruptible seed Christ( Matthew 1:1 ) that was being protected . . .revealed with Onan who was . . . put to death or Noah and the flood in a hope the believers would seek after like minded believers. It as a ceremonial sign that ended at the birth of the Son of man Jesus, the shadow of the generation of Christ (new creatures) became substance .

In that way we are also informed as new creatures we are to know no man after the corrupted flesh and blood even though some did know Jesus. . From then on we are seek to know him any more in the way . God is not a man as us and neither is there any fleshly Good Teaching Master that sits between mankind and God not seen (the antichrist, another teacher other than the Holy Spirit .

One is our master Teacher and Holy Father in heaven . call neither on earth.

The word generation is used in two ways like many words that the father of lies turns upside down

Matthew 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

The spiritual seed that was being protected in Genesis 6 The warning not to be unevenly yoked

In that way we know where the generation of vipers comes from.( You surely will not die look at my beauty and live)

Matthew 12:34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Again it has nothing to do with giants that are not human .

No such animal. Sorry, sounds more like Hollywood and changeshifters .

If any man has not the Spirit of Christ than neither are they of that power needed to believe . Ezekiel 16 Simply reminding. The born again believers where they come from ; just like any other pagan family on earth that has no faith by which they could please God

.If any man has not the faith coming from Christ labor of love . . our understanding coming from Him. How could they please? Simply a call to repentance, comfort . The unbelieving Jew sees no value in the unseen things of God . Like Jesus revealed to the apostles it is the work of God working in and with his children that can profit .The flesh of itself has no power .(John 6)

Ezekiel 16 King James Version (KJV) Again the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations,
And say, Thus saith the Lord God unto Jerusalem; Thy birth and thy nativity is of the land of Canaan; thy father was an Amorite, and thy mother an Hittite.

Again reminding the believer they are sinners saved from the wage eternal death never to rise to new life.

Jesus the Son of man at the renting of the veil (sign of circummsion) did cause Jerusalem to know her abominations exposing their nakedness' when the veil was rent

Many heard at Pentecost the promise spoken through Joel, men and women prophets prophesying the gospel to the world .The new kingdoms of priests believers holding out a living hope to the world . Destroying all the kings of the earth .Re establishing Himself as the invisible King of kings, Father of father, Lord of lord to those who do walk by faith. . mixing or comparing the temporal thing seen with the unseen things of faith . . . our rest in him yoked with Emanuel

That is a work he performs in us to both will and empower us to please Him . Some do it joyfully other murmur all the way. ( Philippians 2:12-13) If he has begun the work of teaching us how to walk by faith so that we can seek after his approval he promises he will continue to teach comfort, guide and bring to our memory the things he has already taught. The gift of faith, yoking us to His love. ( Philippians 1:6)

In all cases God is speaking to those who do know and believe using demonyms' words that describe the residents in a city described by places they live..(location). Not nations as to the flesh and blood . But in the end of the matter to include the name the father named the bride Christian, the nation the nations made up of all families of the earth .

It was a curse against earthly Jerusalem a mountain (high place )that was in the land of Canaan and her abominations. . in anticipation of the new name the father promised to name the bride , the heavenly City, the new Jerusalem, Zion Israel or Christian the last and more befitting name. The nation of all nations signified by the word Abraham and the new name. Sarah . Sarah had two nations as generations ( beginnings) within her . Again it takes two to make one new nation or family . One seed the spirutl sed Christ. Not seeds many literal seed flesh and blood. Without the spiritual seed Christ it has no power.

It would seem the genealogy of the generation of spiritual incorruptible seed Christ( Matthew 1:1 ) that was being protected . . .revealed with Onan who was . . . put to death or Noah and the flood in a hope the believers would seek after like minded believers. It as a ceremonial sign that ended at the birth of the Son of man Jesus, the shadow of the generation of Christ (new creatures) became substance .

In that way we are also informed as new creatures we are to know no man after the corrupted flesh and blood even though some did know Jesus. . From then on we are seek to know him any more in the way . God is not a man as us and neither is there any fleshly Good Teaching Master that sits between mankind and God not seen (the antichrist, another teacher other than the Holy Spirit .

One is our master Teacher and Holy Father in heaven . call neither on earth.

The word generation is used in two ways like many words that the father of lies turns upside down

Matthew 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

The spiritual seed that was being protected in Genesis 6 The warning not to be unevenly yoked

In that way we know where the generation of vipers comes from.( You surely will not die look at my beauty and live)

Matthew 12:34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

Well sir, you can tell God what He means all you want, but that will not change what He says or the facts. There is the Word to disprove your assertions, there is too much physical evidence to disprove you as well....The Smithsonian is full of the bones of giants. Inhuman giants, DNA as well...But as my daddy always said....Oh never mind....You and I have no basis for discussion.

 

[Garee]

Well sir, you can tell God what He means all you want, but that will not change what He says or the facts. There is the Word to disprove your assertions, there is too much physical evidence to disprove you as well....The Smithsonian is full of the bones of giants. Inhuman giants, DNA as well...But as my daddy always said....Oh never mind....You and I have no basis for discussion.

LOL. . . But as my daddy always said...

The basis for the discussion is as it is written .Not the Smithsonian is full of the bones of human giants.. Hollywood is full of what ever suits their fanciful imagination .

The use of word the renown as to its usage can be found by rightly dividing the scriptures'. It is used 9 times in the old testament as a status not a height requirement.


Numbers 1:16 These were the renowned of the congregation, princes of the tribes of their fathers, heads of thousands in Israel.

Numbers 16:2 And they rose up before Moses, with certain of the children of Israel, two hundred and fifty princes of the assembly, famous in the congregation, men of renown:

Isaiah 14:20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord God.

It did not make giants as creatures from outer space with six toes .its one time you should not of listened to your daddy. rather than the word of God

Simply giants of faith mighty men of old moved by the Holy Spirit . Even the short ones as sons of God , born again believers cohabitating with daughters of men , unbelievers That is the same as the new testament warning not to be unevenly yoked . What does darkness have to do with light?

There is no maximum or minimum height requirement before it proves a person is not human .Same with number of finger or toes as part of the corrupted creation that became corrupt the moment the glory of God departed.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

LOL. . . But as my daddy always said...

The basis for the discussion is as it is written .Not the Smithsonian is full of the bones of human giants.. Hollywood is full of what ever suits their fanciful imagination .

The use of word the renown as to its usage can be found by rightly dividing the scriptures'. It is used 9 times in the old testament as a status not a height requirement.


Numbers 1:16 These were the renowned of the congregation, princes of the tribes of their fathers, heads of thousands in Israel.

Numbers 16:2 And they rose up before Moses, with certain of the children of Israel, two hundred and fifty princes of the assembly, famous in the congregation, men of renown:

Isaiah 14:20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord God.

It did not make giants as creatures from outer space with six toes .its one time you should not of listened to your daddy. rather than the word of God

Simply giants of faith mighty men of old moved by the Holy Spirit . Even the short ones as sons of God , born again believers cohabitating with daughters of men , unbelievers That is the same as the new testament warning not to be unevenly yoked . What does darkness have to do with light?

There is no maximum or minimum height requirement before it proves a person is not human .Same with number of finger or toes as part of the corrupted creation that became corrupt the moment the glory of God departed.

As I said sir; You and I have no basis for discussion...I believe the bible as it is written, you do not.