GOD means what He says; But many Christians do not believe it, They believe HE meant This. and , He didn't mean that. He wants you to be happy

[MrBear]

It isnt something you do every Sunday then forget about it the rest of the week. Jesus is all encompassing in your spiritual journey. 24/7. It is very rare indeed to find people with that mindset these days. Then there is the issue of false doctrine and theology.

I love that you said that
All of you make great points but my spirit jumped when I saw this post
Jesus said “ iam the door”
And Matthew 7:13 says
Enter through the narrow gate.For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life
The gate to sin is Broad many people can fit through that gate, but gate is small for the believer!
And to go through that gate you need to Jesus, He is the only way to the father
John 14:6
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life.No one comes to the Father except through me.
But people get that far and forget about the last part of Matthew’s verse
and narrow the road that leads to life
The road, now you got through the gate now you have to walk the path, and it’s a narrow one, it’s tough at times, for me I struggle BUT the reward is worth the struggle
Walk the road with me brothers and sisters stay true to the path and receive your reward as promised by the Father
SHALOM

 

[Gregoryp]

What is the correct manner? -- In Spirit and in Truth?

It isnt something you do every Sunday then forget about it the rest of the week. Jesus is all encompassing in your spiritual journey. 24/7. It is very rare indeed to find people with that mindset these days. Then there is the issue of false doctrine and theology.

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

It isnt something you do every Sunday then forget about it the rest of the week. Jesus is all encompassing in your spiritual journey. 24/7. It is very rare indeed to find people with that mindset these days. Then there is the issue of false doctrine and theology.

I agree that it is hard to find people with that mindset.

 

[Rhema]

Satan has total authority over world events ,

Something Jesus disagreed with:

And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, ALL power is given unto me in heaven AND in EARTH.​

(Matthew 28:18 KJV)​

​

And having come near, Jesus spake to them, saying, 'Given to me was ALL authority in heaven AND on EARTH;​

(Matthew 28:18 YLT)​

How many times does this need to be repeated before you will decide to believe it?

Rhema
(And you moan in travail about the lack of believers around you?)

 

[Rhema]

And then they quote scripture and you wonder, how did they come to that conclusion,

Because that's what's written, sir.

Rhema

 

[PloughBoy]

Because that's what's written, sir.

Rhema

And you said this; to "Gregoryp" , insinuating that Jesus has just Got his power, by using this partial few words taken out of the whole context of the BIBLE.
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, ALL power is given unto me in heaven AND in EARTH.
(Matthew 28:18 KJV)
And having come near, Jesus spake to them, saying, 'Given to me was ALL authority in heaven AND on EARTH;
(Matthew 28:18 YLT)

Like Jesus, just obtain this power, when Jesus spoke that statement. In Other words "GOD" the SON had lost HIS "DIETY, The DIVINITY that He Had when HE CREATED all Creation, or When He died He LOST HIS POWER AS "GOD" and regain it when He Got up from the grave. That is what it looks like, that you are saying, at one point Jesus lost His power and then got new power.

Jesus Has Never lost HIS POWER as GOD, GOD cannot Lose HIS Power.

In Matthew 28: 18, JESUS IS making a "INDICATIVE" statement! He have never lost HIS POWER that HIS FATHER gave HIM! For HE IS "THE CHRIST of GOD"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- New Direction, because i might have miss your thought direction, concerning "Matt. 28:18" and will be waiting for reply'
New thought:
Many of christians are polluting, the minds of the serious "children of GOD" who are trying to grow in Christ. By using "Cult Type" languages that is not even Biblical, For they do not even know the Biblical Languages of GOD. They do not even know how to read the bible, and Most who are teaching this ungodly interpretations is destroying many who would come to "Christ" they are destroying The Light to THE PATH and The Light that is on "The PATH" and they are doing it with a "Vengeance" and they are doing it "Violently" gaining more converts everyday. Quoting Scriptures and doing it in The name of "JESUS"

But everyone who takes on this path, your day is going to come to an end. Because GOD the FATHER's Anger, is "WAXING HOT"

And whosoever takes this path, "many are Building up WRATH against themselves" that is why nothing is happening to many now. And many think it is "OK", But GOD the FATHER is letting many BUILD UP WRATH against themselves. And those who know The BOOK, know i am not lying, you are just scared to SPEAK up and Tell "THE TRUTH" you are so frighten and do not want to be "Crucified" Like JESUS, You want no part of That Cross.
We understand.

You do not have to speak up, But i got news for many, GOD always got a "LAMB in The BUSH" and as HE told "Elijah" "I got 7,000 who have Not bow down to SATAN" I have reserve them for myself. So to the rest "SLEEP On".

New International Version (1 Kings 19)
Yet I reserve seven thousand in Israel—all whose knees have not bowed down to Baal and whose mouths have not kissed him.”
Daniel 3:18
But even if He does not, let it be known to you, O king, that we will not serve your gods or worship the golden statue you have set up."
Romans 11:4,5
But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal…

I am not bowing down to the "Doctrines [the Teachings] of DEMONS" and I know we are Out number maybe 10,000 to 1 in their flavor, But the Victory has been won, before the "Foundation of the WORLDS" For we have been "Chosen in Christ" to suffer in these odds, even dying in violent deaths. By weapons of all kinds. for we are still called to:

American Standard Version
Beloved, while I was giving all diligence to write unto you of our common salvation, I was constrained to write unto you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered unto the saints. [And this FAITH will cost you your Life"] "we are called to be a "WITNESS".

So my brothers and sisters in Christ , We Must put The WHOLE ARMOR of GOD on, SO we can "STAND"! For we have been "INFILTRATED" and they out number us.

And remember this: Jesus said: He would Build HIS "CONGREGATION" on HIMSELF and not the ground But ON HIMSELF who is "THE ROCK" And not on stone not on gravel or dirt! .......But ON HIM!, On HIM, On HIM. and The GATES of Hell will not and Cannot prevail against HIS "CONGREGATION".
[For Hell and The Devil cannot TEAR HIM DOWN for HE is "THE CHRIST of GOD"} For we are "THE TEMPLE OF GOD" that is not made with the hands of man. And that is not a "Figure of Speech" That is real. whether we believe it or not.


New American Standard Bible
Do you not know that you are a temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?
1 Corinthians 3:9
For we are God's fellow workers; you are God's field, God's building.

1 Corinthians 3:17
If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him; for God's temple is holy, and you are that temple.

1 Corinthians 6:19
Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;

2 Corinthians 6:16
What agreement can exist between the temple of God and idols? For WE ARE THE temple of the living God. As God has said: "I will dwell with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be My people


Now how can anyone mix this up with a building called a church and The Temple of GOD and where GOD dwells. I believe, some "Witch Craft" is going on somewhere, a spell has been cast across the entire world. Just Maybe some Voodo or Whodoo, is going on. And it is powerful! "JESUS" need to hurry up and get back here, Quick, because we are in trouble, The Bible did say: The ANTI Christ is here already He must have been on a slow crawl.

You know The Bible says; that devil is "Subtle", "Crafty", The Bible did call him a "Serpent. and I do not think that meant he was a real snake, I think the name meant, He is slick, sneaky, subtle, crafty, the name might have been his "character"

You see many will come saying that; Jesus is Jesus and honoring His name But it is a deception to sneak in into The Flock.
Matthew 24:5
"For many will come in My name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many." [NOW DO YOU GET IT] sneaky. ANTI CHRIST. slip into the Institutionalize Church. [He cannot Get into JESUS Body] That dog cannot hunt. but the church he can. He is slick. Man builds the Church. Jesus Builds HIS "CONGREGATION" upon HIMSELF. On HIMSELF> UPON THIS ROCK meaning HIMSELF> NO ANTI CHRIST CAN GET INTO JESUS. But A church he can. SATAN is the Prince of This world, the God of this world. God gave it to him, Satan creator is "JESUS CHRIST" "The SON of GOD".

Now that is simple "Bible Introduction 101" that a child can understand. even unconverted.

New American Standard Bible
You foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified?

 

[PloughBoy]

Thread title:
"GOD means what He says; But many Christians do not believe it, They believe HE meant This. and , He didn't mean that. He wants you to be happy"

"He Wants us to be Wise"

King James Bible
Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

And him didn't say "wolf" and He didm't say "snake".

He has a "S" on the end of those names.

 

[Gregoryp]

Jesus has total authority over everything, however, mankind has to take the power of the holy spirit and use it against evil. If mankind listens to satan and admits defeat, then satan ends up having authority over mankind. God is not the author of mayhem and chaos, Satan is. Your choice.

 

[PloughBoy]

Remember The "SOVEREIGNTY of GOD" sometimes take years to learn and to except it and to digest it. Once it is brought to the face. For the human can't except it.
even when it is written before them in "Holy Scripture". The human mind will say, he does not mean that, he means this.

Example: (Isaiah 45)NASB
“I am the LORD, and there is no one else;
There is no God except Me.
I will arm you, though you have not known Me,

So that people may know from the rising to the setting of the sun
That there is no one besides Me.

I am the LORD, and there is no one else,
The One forming light and creating darkness,
Causing well-being and creating disaster;

I am the LORD who does all these things."

New King James Version
I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create calamity; I, the LORD, do all these things.’

American Standard Version
I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil. I am Jehovah, that doeth all these things.

God is "SOVEREIGN" He is The creator of ALL things and Nothing happens unless He "Ordains" it to come to pass. He creates evil, Calamities, And What so ever happens has to have His Permission to happen.

The problem with people They do not understand That GOD is SOVEREIGN and they do not know what it means. And many do not believe who are believers, fail to understand what a "Believer in GOD " is. One "Theologian" of The Reformed Faith put it this way, People view of "GOD" is too small. Simple as that.

And you cannot take the thoughts of man and VIEW "GOD"! For The FATHER has to be REVEALED by THE SON" even The MINUTENESS of GOD. All of these titles and Attributes can even touch "GOD". I wonder sometimes have they ever read the book of JOB, Isaiah, Jeremiah, EZEKIEL, any of the Major Prophets. 1 Kings , 2 kings, Chronicles.

Many times on this Journey i wanted to give up, because it seem no one reads or know The Bible. No, not one decent conversation about the Bible but drum up lies, from what they had heard from some "jack LEG" preacher pastors. Until GOD pointed me to The REFORMERS, and the lives they lived. And How they WALKED alone with "GOD". And your sleep becomes sweet, EVEN when you sleep among wolves and you can lay your head Down in The LIONS Den and you are not afraid but do not lay your head down in the Church house but keep your eyes open there.

(Psa.55)BSB
"For it is not an enemy who insults me; that I could endure. It is not a foe who rises against me; from him I could hide. But it is you, a manlike myself, my companion and close friend. We shared sweet fellowship together; we walked with the crowd into the house of God."…

GOD creates all things , He creates evil, wickedness, storms, hurricanes, tsunami, rains, fires, nothing can happen unless GOD so "ordains" it to come to pass Even wars cannot take place unless "GOD" ordains it to come to pass.. He soften and harden hearts, even when a harden heart wants to be soften. That is "The SOVEREIGNTY of GOD" a little child cannot get hit by a car unless it has been so "Ordain" by GOD! A woman cannot get "RAPE" unless GOD has Given the permission for her to be RAPE. "that is "The SOVEREIGNTY of GOD"

Now many cannot believe that, But they can believe that GOD had his only Begotten SON to suffer by coming into his own creation and walking in a "Corrupted" and unholy planet and then Dying and suffering a violent death beyond the worlds imagination for ungodly corrupted creatures that does not deserve to be saved, let alone die for. But that is ok. WOW if anyone thinks that is ok, I understand it very much. We are not worth it for the "SON of GOD" to come down here to walk this earth let alone die a violent and horrible death.

But His SON is We are not, But his SON is. Maybe a "paradox" statement to some but not All.

Here we go.

 

[Gregoryp]

The consequences of a sinful mankind is the ramdoness of the world. In other words, a man chose to rape a woman, a child was hit by a car because either the child didnt check the highway, or the car driver was distracted. However, God does not stop evil either. Bad things happen because of the consequences of not worshipping God or following his ways. we live in a sin damaged world. He chooses who he chooses, and denies who he denies.

 

[PloughBoy]

The consequences of a sinful mankind is the ramdoness of the world. In other words, a man chose to rape a woman, a child was hit by a car because either the child didnt check the highway, or the car driver was distracted. However, God does not stop evil either. Bad things happen because of the consequences of not worshipping God or following his ways. we live in a sin damaged world. He chooses who he chooses, and denies who he denies.

I understand what you are saying, But I am not a "philosopher" or one who is any way schooled in philosophical ways or thought patterns. or whole to the worldly ways of what mankind believes what worshipping of GOD is. or worshipping anything, for my views are never i have found in consistent with Humanity. For my beliefs why GOD has created the earth and all the planets and mankind itself does not even agree with "Christianity" as a whole. But is consistent with that which is written in THE BIBLE concerning The purposes of GOD. But the universe and all creation is serve for only one Purpose. And when that is complete all is nothing but "vanity" in The eyes of GOD. and Useless. all creation. That 'Jesus Christ" the SON of GOD Created. The Only Thing will be left is That Which is "Born of GOD" for that is the only thing That has real value. Then after it all has been destroyed He will Make something Brand NEW. There will be no universe. we do not know what that can be.

I have been hit by a car four times in my life time. And i know it was the will of "GOD". And no one can make me think different , And no one can analyze it ,but me and "GOD". Because I know our Father, i know him. I do not know of HIM I know him! He is not just words on a piece of paper. He is not a list of Attributes or a collection of names such as "Elohim",ETC...... i do know why i am here, and why he made me. or not wondering why he chose me. I am not in that "suspense" For "GOD" is our FATHER. The world is in suspense. We The Children of GOD are not HIS enemy. the bible makes this clear. But secretive.

When I use The word "Tetragrammaton" it is for a reason. The best size or Grandeur i can use of Him, has been "SOVEREIGN" and many have no idea what that mean when referring to "GOD" where can we go from there if they do not get it. If you say "GOD" creates all evil, but He does not commit evil. The people faint. their minds go into all directions, trying to figure it out. and in the same breathe they he is "Sovereign".

But one day all will be made clear to all that have every existed. and that is a promise declared by "GOD".

We all see now, through a class darkly, then it will be face to face. "But "GOD" works all things together for the GOOD to those who love "GOD" those who are called according to his purpose"....................Not some things , ALL things that happens to the called are a blessing and have been so "ordain" by "GOD" to come to pass. Our ways, our thinking, our summing up matters, our figuring out things, our conclusion of matters. Are opposite of The WAYS and Thinking of "GOD" the whole book of The OLD TESTAMENT testify's to this. Even The Book of "JOB" seal's this matter. "Jacob have i love Esau have i hated" and Jacob was the crook the deceiver. And Jacob told GOD, The only way that HE could be his "GOD",Jacob gave "GOD" condictions that "GOD" had to fullfill before He would worship HIM and become his "GOD".

Now that is COLD.

 

[Rhema]

That is what it looks like, that you are saying, at one point Jesus lost His power and then got new power.

For, let this mind be in you that is also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal to God, but did empty himself, the form of a servant having taken, in the likeness of men having been made,​

(Philippians 2:5-7 YLT)​

Jesus didn't lose it, PloughBoy, he voluntarily emptied himself of it. "Christ Jesus who did empty himself having been made in the likeness of MEN.

... by using this partial few words taken out of the whole context of the BIBLE.

Context, my dear fellow, is to be applied within the passage under consideration. Other passages from the BIBLE cannot be used to render this one invalid. That is what it looks like you are saying, that other parts of the Bible mean that the passage in Matthew is wrong. So, I'll quote the entire passage, because ALL the parts of it are true and in force and effect now.

And the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mount where Jesus appointed them, and having seen him, they bowed to him, but some did waver. And having come near, Jesus spake to them, saying, 'Given to me was all authority in heaven and on earth; having gone, then, disciple all the nations, (baptizing them—to the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all, whatever I did command you,) and lo, I am with you all the days—till the full end of the age.'​

(Matthew 28:16-20 YLT)​

In Other words "GOD" the SON had lost HIS "DIETY,

So your belief about "GOD the SON" makes Jesus words wrong in Mat. 28:18 ?? I don't think so.

But I would be ever so grateful were you to post the verse where the phrase "God the Son" is written.

Now you are obviously offended, so perhaps we could discuss the deity of Jesus at a later date. What can be affirmed now, are the words of Jesus where at that time, in Galilee, Jesus said "Given to me was all authority in heaven and on earth" You seem hell-bent to deny this truth. I wonder why.

Jesus Has Never lost HIS POWER as GOD, GOD cannot Lose HIS Power.

Who is greater? The Son or the Father?

Then again, perhaps just one simple question on the deity of Jesus.... are the Father and the Son different Persons? Or the same Person? The answer might help me understand why you were so offended. You said, "GOD cannot Lose HIS Power". You did not say that God cannot lose their power. The pronoun "their" is typically used when referencing more than one PERSON.

In Matthew 28: 18, JESUS IS making a "INDICATIVE" statement!

Yes, Jesus was INDICATING that "Given to me was all authority in heaven and on earth". That's what the Indicative mood means - a statement of fact. (If you need me to, I'll post some links...)

--- New Direction, because i might have miss your thought direction, concerning "Matt. 28:18" and will be waiting for reply'

Here's my thought concerning Mat. 28:18. -- Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

That's my thought. Here's my faith. I believe what Jesus said.

But everyone who takes on this path, your day is going to come to an end. Because GOD the FATHER's Anger, is "WAXING HOT"

So then to you, GOD the FATHER's Anger is "WAXING HOT" because I believe what Jesus said to be true?? Okay... ya gotta admit that's a weird "new direction".

that is why nothing is happening to many now.

I think nothing is happening to many now, because they don't believe what Jesus said.

For we have been "INFILTRATED" and they out number us.

Alrighty then... you seem to have wandered off into a number of things that don't concern my posts... so... uh... you go do you then...

Rhema

 

[Rhema]

And remember this: Jesus said: He would Build HIS "CONGREGATION" on HIMSELF

Uh... but he didn't.

He said that he would build His congregation on the revelation by the Father that He, Jesus, was the Christ (Messiah).

He saith to them, 'And ye—who do ye say me to be?' and Simon Peter answering said, 'Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.' And Jesus answering said to him, 'Happy art thou, Simon Bar-Jona, because flesh and blood did not reveal it to thee, but my Father who is in the heavens. 'And I also say to thee, that thou art a rock, and upon this rock I will build my assembly, and gates of Hades shall not prevail against it;​

(Matthew 16:15-18 YLT)​

Indeed, there are two ROCKS upon which the assembly (congregation) is built

• The Revelation by the Father that Jesus is the Christ
• The Rock of the teachings of the Messiah, both to hear them, and to do them.

'Therefore, every one who doth hear of me these words, and doth do them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house upon the rock;​

(Matthew 7:24 YLT)​

Jesus did not say that "He would Build HIS "CONGREGATION on HIMSELF". But maybe I'm wrong and you can show me the scripture verse where He said that.

Kindly,
Rhema

 

[Rhema]

ON HIMSELF who is "THE ROCK"

Okay... wait a second here.

Where does Jesus call himself the Rock?

I realize that you, PloughBoy are calling Jesus "THE ROCK" and that many other Christians (whoops... sorry) Uh... people say the same thing, but...

Where is Jesus called the Rock in Scripture? I would be very grateful if you could post that verse. It would help ... a lot.

Thanks,
Rhema

 

[Rhema]

...mankind has to take the power of the holy spirit and use it against evil.

Perhaps it might be best to say... His Disciples have to take the power of the Holy Spirit and use it against evil.

To which I say... Amen.

Rhema
(After all, that's why were were given such power.)

 

[Rhema]

The human mind will say, he does not mean that, he means this.

And does he mean this ???

And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.​

(Matthew 28:18 KJV)​

Then let that yes, be YES...

Rhema

 

[Br. Bear]

{Maschil of David; A Prayer when he was in the cave.}

I cried unto the LORD with my voice; with my voice unto the LORD did I make my supplication.

I poured out my complaint before him; I shewed before Him my trouble.
When my spirit was overwhelmed within me, then Thou knewest my path. In the way wherein I walked have they privily laid a snare for me.
I looked on my right hand, and beheld, but there was no man that would know me: refuge failed me; no man cared for my soul.

I cried unto Thee, O LORD: I said, Thou art my refuge and my portion in the land of the living.
Attend unto my cry; for I am brought very low:
deliver me from my persecutors; for they are stronger than I.
Bring my soul out of prison, that I may praise Thy name:
the righteous shall compass me about; for Thou shalt deal bountifully with me.
Psalm 142

 

[complete]

"Why call me your Master and the slave does not what the Masters says" You cannot be my slave, if you do nothing i say, you never obey me. And further more I do not even know you as my slave. And since you claim by calling me by The Title LORD, And I ain't your "LORD", one of us is lying. And where i stay, liars are not allowed.

"“Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say? As for everyone who comes to me and hears my words and puts them into practice, I will show you what they are like. They are like a man building a house, who dug down deep and laid the foundation on rock. When a flood came, the torrent struck that house but could not shake it, because it was well built. But the one who hears my words and does not put them into practice is like a man who built a house on the ground without a foundation. The moment the torrent struck that house, it collapsed and its destruction was complete.”

By obeying GODs word does not mean all will go well, Most likely all will go bad in your life not good. because the devil is going to be the force to make you go against GOD's commands with vengeance to make sure everything goes wrong. But we must hold on tight anyway, Satan is the god of this world, he is in charge of everything and he knows who you are. And when he attacks, he has permission from GOD to do so. you might loose everything, and never recover it in this world. But the victory is still yours and the prize is unspeakable.by design.

[/quote]
'And why call ye me, Lord, Lord,
and do not the things which I say?
(Luke 6:46)

Hello @PloughBoy,

I was glad to find the scripture you were referring to (Luke 6:46-49), for it is the word of God that acts upon the heart, and washes away the detritus that builds up in the mind from living day by day. It is wonderful to read the word and become aware of that process of washing that is taking place within your heart and mind, isn't it? Convicting, correcting, encouraging, strengthening.

* The words of the Lord in Luke 6:46 do form a question, a very important question. I was reading from Ezekiel 13 recently about the false prophets who sought to hide from the people what God was doing, and saying 'peace', 'peace', when there was no peace, for God had stretched out His arm in judgement against them. They were likened there to those who whitewash sepulchres to make them pretty, to hide the fact that within are dead men's bones. I read the same words in Matthew 23 yesterday, ( when contrasting the 8 beatitudes of Matthew 5 with the 8 'woes' of Matthew 23:13-39 ), spoken by the Lord Jesus Christ, concerning the Pharisees and Scribes,:-

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
for ye are like unto whited sepulchres,
which indeed appear beautiful outward,
but are within full of dead men's bones,
and of all uncleanness.
Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men,
but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.'
(Mat 23:27)

* This makes me think of the words of Paul in 2 Corinthians 11:13:-

' For such are false apostles, deceitful workers,
transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also
be transformed as the ministers of righteousness;
whose end shall be according to their works.'
(2 Corinthians 11:13-15)

* So, that question is worth asking: and it is good that you have asked it, Ploughboy,
'And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? For it is a question for us all.

* Are we rejoicing in all things? Are we loving one another? Are we esteeming others as greater than ourselves?
Our fruits will make the answers to these questions apparent to all, even if we ourselves are blind to it.

Thank you
Within the love of Christ our Saviour
our Lord and Head.
Chris

 

[PloughBoy]

And does he mean this ???

And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.​

(Matthew 28:18 KJV)​

Then let that yes, be YES...

Rhema

My statement will stand, throughout "ETERNITY", "GOD can never loose HIS Power as GOD, FOR he Can NEVER lie or "DENY" that HE is "GOD" GOD cannot DIE. 1 st. one must know what "DEATH" is before he can understand it. DEAD is Dead! AND "GOD" what ever form HE takes on "HE cannot DIE", He might Lay down, But HE cannot DIE. Because "How can "The DEAD raise the DEAD", Jesus SAID: "I AM" " The RESURRECTION" [I might LAY DOWN But I cannot DIE"" and somebody might have ask the question, "Why can you not DIE? And I read what JESUS said one Time, it sound something this:

Because:
Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in Me will live, even though he dies. And everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this?”…

And I heard Him say this too:
John 5:21
For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son gives life to whom He wishes.

And He went on to say: But, A normal Human, will not understand these words;
John 5:26
For as the Father has life in Himself, SO ALSO He has granted the Son to have life in Himself. [JESUS can NEVER DIE as we know death]
(JOHN 10)
"No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I HAVE POWER to lay it down, and I HAVE POWER to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father." [You cannot ignore "indicative" language when it is right in your face]


[The body can die but GOD cannot die] and this is common Biblical sense. If "GOD"cease to "exists" where are we?
If "GOD" dies where are we? Who holds the world together, the universe. Now if you do not believe in "The TRIUNE GOD" it is understandable you believe the WORLD can still carry on without "GOD" the SON The WORD of GOD> He can die and the world carries on without "HIM".

Now is this a "paradox" nope. well how did Jesus die for all sinners. but still GOD stayed alive. We who are the "Children of GOD" we know. Our Father do not leave us in the dark. for we are the "Children of Light". The second part of the "Trinty" cannot die. If the second part of The Trinty dies "GOD" cannot exist. If you believe in a "Triune GOD".

Ok, bye.

 

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Okay... wait a second here.

Where does Jesus call himself the Rock?

I realize that you, PloughBoy are calling Jesus "THE ROCK" and that many other Christians (whoops... sorry) Uh... people say the same thing, but...

Where is Jesus called the Rock in Scripture? I would be very grateful if you could post that verse. It would help ... a lot.

Thanks,
Rhema

'And did all drink the same spiritual drink:
for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them:
and that Rock was Christ.'
(1Co 10:4)