Degrees of sin - Poll

[MedicBravo]

Nobody currently alive and healthy have committed it.

Untrue.
With roughly 330 million Americans and around 7-ish Billion people on the planet, many have done it.

 

[Twistie]

Your line is true, but it is a half-truth. Please re-read the OP and quote a passage you disagree with.

Wow so now the Word is a half truth?? Okay
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[joestue]

So you're saying I can deny Jesus all my life until I die, and there are no consequnces?
I never have to accept Him or believe in Him or follow Him?

What a disingenuous reply, as no one on this forum actually preaches a zero consequences free salvation to all who don't believe it message.

There was a popular challenge on all atheist sites about ten years ago (time flies), where they wanted to commit the unforgivable sin and see the consequences. ''Let's all curse the Holy Spirit''. They typed curse words, cursing the Holy Spirit. I see this as venial sin idiocy and not 'extreme' evil intent. I am sure God sees it the same. The unforgivable is a 'fulness' of evil intent. I will work on a post explaining what it is.

i would not preach such a thing.

 

[MedicBravo]

Going to any atheist for anything is absurd.
In fact, that challenge shouldn't be used as an argument. It should be mocked and ridiculed.

 

[Twistie]

Going to any atheist for anything is absurd.
In fact, that challenge shouldn't be used as an argument. It should be mocked and ridiculed.

Even the sea monsters draw out the breast, they give suck to their young ones: the daughter of my people is become cruel, like the ostriches in the wilderness.

For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.

And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.

And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again

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[MedicBravo]

Even the sea monsters draw out the breast, they give suck to their young ones: the daughter of my people is become cruel, like the ostriches in the wilderness.

For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.

And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.

And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again

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Yeah, type normally b/c no one does like that.
I know what you mean so let me clarify.
Don't go to an atheist on Good, Normal, Moral, Ethical, Logical, Common sense, or the standard for humanity.

Christians need to stop assuming they are the only factor that changes any person. God does it and it's prideful and egotistical to think you are the one.
Put the info out for them or anyone to read.
Keep your personal feelings aside.
Rebuke any insults or other emotionally charged statement as "irrelevant" as it shows little intellect in a discussion.

Lastly, you'll see it often but demons and demon-possessed get upset at any mention of God.

 

[KingJ]

Yeah, type normally b/c no one does like that.
I know what you mean so let me clarify.
Don't go to an atheist on Good, Normal, Moral, Ethical, Logical, Common sense, or the standard for humanity.

Christians need to stop assuming they are the only factor that changes any person. God does it and it's prideful and egotistical to think you are the one.
Put the info out for them or anyone to read.
Keep your personal feelings aside.
Rebuke any insults or other emotionally charged statement as "irrelevant" as it shows little intellect in a discussion.

Lastly, you'll see it often but demons and demon-possessed get upset at any mention of God.

Lots of truth in this post. Agreed.

I would just add that God places us on the earth like salt. He wants us to reach those around that He has placed us with. Sometimes a personal connection, a testimony or actual physical help is needed.

God prefers to do His work through us. Living by faith in Him = true free will = God's will.

 

[KingJ]

i would not preach such a thing.

Not preach that God is a righteous judge and expects us to do the same? You would have to be more specific.

If perhaps you mean that any sort of cursing the Holy Spirit is like playing with a hungry lion, I agree.

 

[joestue]

If perhaps you mean that any sort of cursing the Holy Spirit is like playing with a hungry lion, I agree.

Jesus is not a hungry lion seeking to see who he cant forgive.

 

[Twistie]

Yeah, type normally b/c no one does like that.
I know what you mean so let me clarify.
Don't go to an atheist on Good, Normal, Moral, Ethical, Logical, Common sense, or the standard for humanity.

Christians need to stop assuming they are the only factor that changes any person. God does it and it's prideful and egotistical to think you are the one.
Put the info out for them or anyone to read.
Keep your personal feelings aside.
Rebuke any insults or other emotionally charged statement as "irrelevant" as it shows little intellect in a discussion.

Lastly, you'll see it often but demons and demon-possessed get upset at any mention of God.

Idc what others do they r not me n I will type how ever I please . Fyi I don't care what you think or feel about what I do or how I do it .

You can be very ignorant at times

Id think ya be a bit more maturer for what you claim to be..but ehh my pops said not all boys become Men

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[KingJ]

Jesus is not a hungry lion seeking to see who he cant forgive.

Then perhaps better clarify what you meant in post # 23.

 

[MedicBravo]

Idc what others do they r not me n I will type how ever I please . Fyi I don't care what you think or feel about what I do or how I do it .

You can be very ignorant at times

Id think ya be a bit more maturer for what you claim to be..but ehh my pops said not all boys become Men

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Fewer people are going to respond when you use language and mannerisms 99% of people don't use or understand.
An effective speaker puts info on a layman level.
If you were to explain something you're highly experienced at and try to convey that on that level you'll lose everyone.

"You can be very ignorant at times" - The above response from King further shows your way is ineffective. Simiilar to the way Rema "auto-signs" every response on here.

I've a lot of knowledge and experience in Medicine. If I were to explain something on my level or in adjacent, I'd lost all but a few people.
Same goes for you.

 

[Twistie]

Fewer people are going to respond when you use language and mannerisms 99% of people don't use or understand.
An effective speaker puts info on a layman level.
If you were to explain something you're highly experienced at and try to convey that on that level you'll lose everyone.

"You can be very ignorant at times" - The above response from King further shows your way is ineffective. Simiilar to the way Rema "auto-signs" every response on here.

I've a lot of knowledge and experience in Medicine. If I were to explain something on my level or in adjacent, I'd lost all but a few people.
Same goes for you.

And I don't read post that start like the person is an ignoramus

Like I said idc what ya gotta say.. your ways are ugly not of Abba

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[MedicBravo]

And I don't read post that start like the person is an ignoramus

Like I said idc what ya gotta say.. your ways are ugly not of Abba

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Opinions are not facts.
You'll find the way I and others speak and type will reach more people than your previous replies.
This latest response add nothing to this.

 

[Twistie]

Opinions are not facts.
You'll find the way I and others speak and type will reach more people than your previous replies.
This latest response add nothing to this.

Idk what part you don't get in I'm not interested in anything your ugly Spirit has to spew out.. but you definitely show more signs of being a boy then a man..

Fyi I'm not even reading your post but ya gotta be like a child call names n act like a 12 yr old who knows everything so I figured I'll play your game.. except imma keep speaking Truth..

You like to try n bully peep n when you can't get them to see your way you try demeaning then nothing about that has to do in following the Messiah

Why don't ya try n walk the talk n maybe just maybe ya will gather instead of scatter

Feeling get hurt much??

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[joestue]

Then perhaps better clarify what you meant in post # 23.

Jesus explained it well enough already.

Those who blaspheme the Holy Spirit cannot be forgiven, neither in this age or the age to come.

Look, the jews already knew that blasphemy against YHWH (the father) could not be forgiven. That has not changed. The Holy Spirit is the OT spirit of God.

 

[KingJ]

Jesus explained it well enough already.

Those who blaspheme the Holy Spirit cannot be forgiven, neither in this age or the age to come.

Look, the jews already knew that blasphemy against YHWH (the father) could not be forgiven. That has not changed. The Holy Spirit is the OT spirit of God.

There is more to cursing the Holy Spirit than merely verbally cursing Him. That should be dead obvious.

 

[MedicBravo]

Idk what part you don't get in I'm not interested in anything your ugly Spirit has to spew out.. but you definitely show more signs of being a boy then a man..

Fyi I'm not even reading your post but ya gotta be like a child call names n act like a 12 yr old who knows everything so I figured I'll play your game.. except imma keep speaking Truth..

You like to try n bully peep n when you can't get them to see your way you try demeaning then nothing about that has to do in following the Messiah

Why don't ya try n walk the talk n maybe just maybe ya will gather instead of scatter

Feeling get hurt much??

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1. Don't respond to me then. Pretty sure there's a block feature.
2. Making 5-year old type of insults adds nothing to a conversation. The Leftards do it.
3. Untrue. You have the free will to read or ignore anything.
4. You've made assumptions on reading text.
5. Again?

 

[KingJ]

Jesus explained it well enough already.

Those who blaspheme the Holy Spirit cannot be forgiven, neither in this age or the age to come.

Hi Joe, I found some past threads discussing this. I think our members correctly nailed it. There is no need for me to rehash .

See @Bethel 's OP here - The Unpardonable sin
See @Charlie24 's comments here - The Unpardonable Sin
See OP here - The Most Unpardonable Sins
See OP here from @Property Of God - Unpardonable sin / unforgivable sin.
and last but not least, from @Chad our admin - Unpardonable Sin (brilliant OP, agree 100%)

 

[Twistie]

1. Don't respond to me then. Pretty sure there's a block feature.
2. Making 5-year old type of insults adds nothing to a conversation. The Leftards do it.
3. Untrue. You have the free will to read or ignore anything.
4. You've made assumptions on reading text.
5. Again?

Lmbo I knew you would respond even tho I told ya I'm not reading your post

Like I said name calling n demeaning is your ways arrogance n pride just like he who roams the world

What good is when one looks in a mirror and sees dirt yet don't wipe it off

Perhaps you can't see cause that big all plank in your eye cause ya to busy looking for splinters in others


Boys will be boys

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