10 End Time Prophecies
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oh believe me I do pray everyday for them.
The Lord knows who they are for sure.
Even my husband, he said something today, that each time he goes to church on Sunday night, it brings him that little bit closer.
He knows the way, he just hasn't taken that final last step of commitment, don't know what's holding him from doing so, he says it's not the things I assume it to be.
So I gave it 100% to the Lord, as He does know what's holding him back.
I'm staying out, it's solely between Him and God.
Don't be thinking I was preaching at him or 'going on' I don't.
but I just think it needs to be left to the Lord alone.
I think sometimes, well I do, that perhaps, I can say something that'll make him move, or if I get him along to hear this one or that one, but it never works that way.
So I'm doing the praying and watching God do what He does best, reach His people. Amen
The Lord knows who they are for sure.
Even my husband, he said something today, that each time he goes to church on Sunday night, it brings him that little bit closer.
He knows the way, he just hasn't taken that final last step of commitment, don't know what's holding him from doing so, he says it's not the things I assume it to be.
So I gave it 100% to the Lord, as He does know what's holding him back.
I'm staying out, it's solely between Him and God.
Don't be thinking I was preaching at him or 'going on' I don't.
but I just think it needs to be left to the Lord alone.
I think sometimes, well I do, that perhaps, I can say something that'll make him move, or if I get him along to hear this one or that one, but it never works that way.
So I'm doing the praying and watching God do what He does best, reach His people. Amen
I understand how you really feel Patrica
But we really can't work it out for them.
You'd think when they see yourself so happy and content, and not needing the worldly things, that'd make them think, but it doesnt.
It's like they're not bothered.
They don't consider what is to come.
If they can't see it then they won't give it thinking space.
My husband has been hearing the gospel faithfully preached week after week, for over a year, with no impact.
sometimes it goes beyond me, how he walks out after hearing what he has, but he does and can and come back for more of the same next week.
Tears be down my cheeks at times just listening, but then I believe when your saved, born again, your more tender toward the gospel and what Jesus did for us on the cross.
Other hearts are hardened and much more resilient, the Lord has done the work of grace on ours, that makes it harder then for us to understand their cold heart.
If I keep writing I'll explain it to myself hopefully.
But I really have given it to the Lord completely, I'm going to watch now.
But we really can't work it out for them.
You'd think when they see yourself so happy and content, and not needing the worldly things, that'd make them think, but it doesnt.
It's like they're not bothered.
They don't consider what is to come.
If they can't see it then they won't give it thinking space.
My husband has been hearing the gospel faithfully preached week after week, for over a year, with no impact.
sometimes it goes beyond me, how he walks out after hearing what he has, but he does and can and come back for more of the same next week.
Tears be down my cheeks at times just listening, but then I believe when your saved, born again, your more tender toward the gospel and what Jesus did for us on the cross.
Other hearts are hardened and much more resilient, the Lord has done the work of grace on ours, that makes it harder then for us to understand their cold heart.
If I keep writing I'll explain it to myself hopefully.
But I really have given it to the Lord completely, I'm going to watch now.
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yes Patrica your right it does give peace of mind, as you don't have to battle with it anymore, whatever that 'something' is.
when we master this giving fully it is remarkable, I've had help from above instantly concerning one matter very recently, the Lord just stepped in, and things were sloved.
Truly what a wonderful God we serve.
when we master this giving fully it is remarkable, I've had help from above instantly concerning one matter very recently, the Lord just stepped in, and things were sloved.
Truly what a wonderful God we serve.
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Just to clarify- Revelation says that people will not die when they are stung by the scorpion-like locusts, not die at all. They will curse God and want to die for those 5 1/2 months, I think the time is.
But the second seal, which is written before the locusts come, says that 1/3 of the world's population will die with that one seal.
It's alot to take in, I know!!
But the second seal, which is written before the locusts come, says that 1/3 of the world's population will die with that one seal.
It's alot to take in, I know!!
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I've always found this topic interesting. I do also believe that the technology will help to aid the spread of the Good news. I have read from the newspaper that company are making cheap, affordable computers for the poor countries.
I think when the Kingdom of God is in our midst, no one would be able to say "there it is!", for the bible said: "The Kingdom of God can't be detected by visible signs. You won't be able to say, 'Here it is!' or 'It's over there!' For the Kingdom of God is already among you." I don't know how this will happen, but it will be nothing like we imagine. People who are sleeping, will know. People who never went outside, will know. It's not visible. I have no idea how they will know, but "nothing is impossible for God". Everyone will know at the same time.
"The time is coming when you will long to see the day when the Son of Man returns, but you won't see it." (Luke 22) - We all long to see the day when the Son of Man returns don't we? It could happen in our generation, or the next, or in 100 years. Who knows. Only our father in heaven know the time that it will happen. At the moment, don't worry about when he will return. Now it's about living for the Lord. - Repent of your Sins and continue to walk in his glorious ways. Nothing else matters.
I think Earth will become the place, "Hell". That is, after the second coming of Jesus. We are currently in the presence of God (we can tell, because there's so much love coming from God - Plants, fruits, Sun, Life), but after all prophecies has been fulfilled. God will finally leave the wicked place (to the new Heaven and earth) and all the good things will be removed. The people who has been rejected, will live forever for eternity in pain and suffering on earth (Hell). They will want to die, but they cannot die.
I don't want to describe what Hell is going to be like, but I can assure you, it is too horrible for us to picture.
I think when the Kingdom of God is in our midst, no one would be able to say "there it is!", for the bible said: "The Kingdom of God can't be detected by visible signs. You won't be able to say, 'Here it is!' or 'It's over there!' For the Kingdom of God is already among you." I don't know how this will happen, but it will be nothing like we imagine. People who are sleeping, will know. People who never went outside, will know. It's not visible. I have no idea how they will know, but "nothing is impossible for God". Everyone will know at the same time.
"The time is coming when you will long to see the day when the Son of Man returns, but you won't see it." (Luke 22) - We all long to see the day when the Son of Man returns don't we? It could happen in our generation, or the next, or in 100 years. Who knows. Only our father in heaven know the time that it will happen. At the moment, don't worry about when he will return. Now it's about living for the Lord. - Repent of your Sins and continue to walk in his glorious ways. Nothing else matters.
I think Earth will become the place, "Hell". That is, after the second coming of Jesus. We are currently in the presence of God (we can tell, because there's so much love coming from God - Plants, fruits, Sun, Life), but after all prophecies has been fulfilled. God will finally leave the wicked place (to the new Heaven and earth) and all the good things will be removed. The people who has been rejected, will live forever for eternity in pain and suffering on earth (Hell). They will want to die, but they cannot die.
I don't want to describe what Hell is going to be like, but I can assure you, it is too horrible for us to picture.
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Tribulation
Mr 13:19
For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.
(Mr 13:24-27
¶ But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.)
Verse 19 claims that affliction that will happen in the tribulation will be the worst affliction since the creation.
Verse 24 Notice what will happen after the tribulation period .the days after the tribulation.
Verse 27 states that after the tribulation, then shall the Lord send his angels to gather his elect. All who have been saved by the cleansing of the blood of Christ. This would be what is commonly called the rapture, the catching away all the servants of Christ, those who have endured the tribulation and those who have passed on before.
I ask this question? Is this not what our Lord said in this chapter of Mark’s gospel of the end time.
Could there be another interpretation.
May our Lord richly bless those who study his word. sonnyd
Mr 13:19
For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.
(Mr 13:24-27
¶ But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.)
Verse 19 claims that affliction that will happen in the tribulation will be the worst affliction since the creation.
Verse 24 Notice what will happen after the tribulation period .the days after the tribulation.
Verse 27 states that after the tribulation, then shall the Lord send his angels to gather his elect. All who have been saved by the cleansing of the blood of Christ. This would be what is commonly called the rapture, the catching away all the servants of Christ, those who have endured the tribulation and those who have passed on before.
I ask this question? Is this not what our Lord said in this chapter of Mark’s gospel of the end time.
Could there be another interpretation.
May our Lord richly bless those who study his word. sonnyd
BibleProphecy: Greetings in Christ. I would like to know where the information is found that explains that the opening to the bottomless pit is in the Dead Sea. This sound like a great bible study that I would like to work on. A fellow worker in his vineyard sonnyd
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BibleProphecy-Thank you for the prompt reply to my question. I have read all the scriptures given in this reply and still can not find the answer to your remark about the opening to the bottomless pit is in the Dead Sea.
The Dead Sea being outside of Jerusalem is a statement I don't comprehend. What does that have to do with the location of the Bottomless pit.
I have read many of your postings and have enjoyed much of the knowledge that you have received about the scriptures. Some of what I am reading in this posting seems to contradict what I believe. Perhaps you will be able to straighten it out.
Rev 17:8
The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall [ascend out of the bottomless pit,] and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
The 4 beast of the vision of Daniel ch.7 Was interpreted as being 4 Kings. So far, by scripture, I have not been able to find where anyone other than the antichrist will ascend from the Pit. I know that some receive spiritual enlightment but that enlightment will always agree the
scriptures. Thank you again for your prompt reply and may our Lord Jesus bless your studies. sonnyd
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Daniel 7:23 explains that this beast is the fourth world kingdom (Roman Empire). That would make the other three beast the 1st, 2nd and 3rd world kingdoms. They didn't ascend from the bottomless pit, theae kingdoms came about by the will of God according to the holy prophets.
I still have not received any scripture verifying your statement that the opening of the bottomless pit is in the Dead Sea. We could discuss this more but I think it would be of no avail.
I can find scripture where the antichrist will ascend from the pit but he is the only one.
I can't verify some of the things you have posted here so we probably can't agree on these
items. Keep studing and I pray the Lord Jesus bless you in your studies and may we both receive enlightment from the throne of God. Yours in Christ sonnyd
I still have not received any scripture verifying your statement that the opening of the bottomless pit is in the Dead Sea. We could discuss this more but I think it would be of no avail.
I can find scripture where the antichrist will ascend from the pit but he is the only one.
I can't verify some of the things you have posted here so we probably can't agree on these
items. Keep studing and I pray the Lord Jesus bless you in your studies and may we both receive enlightment from the throne of God. Yours in Christ sonnyd
As far as these four kingdoms go, it seems that they rise to power simultaneously.
In Revelation 13 it is described as one beast with four distinct parts.
And to look at this in a practical value, it would be a phenomena that is taking place in our present day. Because with the economies of the world on the verge of collapse, strange weather, and now mysterious earthquakes presenting themselves off the coast of Oregon, and numerous happenings all over our world, there is no doubt in my mind that the return of Lord Jesus is drawing ever closer.
Prophecy should be seen as a whole complete picture, and the link I would like to stress is the rise of four kingdoms.
If we look at the Word of God and we see what the Holy Spirit tells us, it becomes clear that these four kingdoms will create a new world economic order.
Daniel 8:1-9
1.In the third year of the reign of King Belshazzar a vision appeared to me-- to me, Daniel-- after the one that appeared to me the first time.
2.I saw in the vision, and it so happened while I was looking, that I was in Shushan, the citadel, which is in the province of Elam; and I saw in the vision that I was by the River Ulai.
3.Then I lifted my eyes and saw, and there, standing beside the river, was a ram which had two horns, and the two horns were high; but one was higher than the other, and the higher one came up last.
4.I saw the ram pushing westward, northward, and southward, so that no beast could withstand him; nor was there any that could deliver from his hand, but he did according to his will and became great.
5.And as I was considering, suddenly a male goat came from the west, across the surface of the whole earth, without touching the ground; and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes.
6.Then he came to the ram that had two horns, which I had seen standing beside the river, and ran at him with furious power.
7.And I saw him confronting the ram; he was moved with rage against him, attacked the ram, and broke his two horns. There was no power in the ram to withstand him, but he cast him down to the ground and trampled him; and there was no one that could deliver the ram from his hand.
8.Therefore the male goat grew very great; but when he became strong, the large horn was broken, and in place of it four notable ones came up toward the four winds of heaven.
9.And out of one of them came a little horn which grew exceedingly great toward the south, toward the east, and toward the Glorious Land.
Theologians and bible scholars say that these verses describe the rise of Alexander the Great and Antiochus Epiphanes. Though I do believe that to be true to an extent there are several things that tell us that it is merely a parallel between the conquering of Alexander and the rise of the world order of the anti-christ.
Verse 5:
And as I was considering, suddenly a male goat came from the west, across the surface of the whole earth, without touching the ground; and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes.
Things to notice in this verse are
-The male goat comes from the west.
-The male goat crosses the whole surface of the earth without touching the ground.
Now scholars will tell you that the symbolic meaning of the goat not touching the ground would translate into the speed in which Alexander traveled in his conquering of Eurasia. Though this may seem plausible. Alexander did not cross the whole surface of the earth to achieve his conquest, and his chariots still touched the ground, when he traveled.
To our contemporary thinking, we can see now that this is a possibility.
That is, a fleet of jets could very well fulfill this prophetic message.
Another thing to note is, is that the Ulai canal, where the Ram resides is in southwestern Iran.
When the goat becomes strong, it is split into four kingdoms. And the Bible tells us that these four kingdoms stretch to the four winds of heaven, meaning the entire world. Alexander did not conquer the entire world, nor when his kingdom was split into four kingdoms did it stretch to the four winds of heaven.
Daniel 8:19
19.And he said, "Look, I am making known to you what shall happen in the latter time of the indignation; for at the appointed time the end shall be.
The beast rises from the sea in Revelation 13, they are the same beasts shown in Daniel 7.
So the Bible gives us more clues as to the meaning of these four kingdoms.
If the he-goat conquers the two horned ram, it is obviously a war that takes place, that will set up these four kingdoms.
Jesus tells us in the Olivette discourse that nation shall rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom.
Jesus does not give us a specific kingdom, but rather, a world wide event, a world war will take place towards the end of this age.
And looking at our present day situation, it can be concluded that this war is describing world war three.
We all know, listening to the news reports, that we are drawing closer to a war such as this.
So where does this war relate to the Revelation of John?
Verse 8:
8.Therefore the male goat grew very great; but when he became strong, the large horn was broken, and in place of it four notable ones came up toward the four winds of heaven.
We read here that the male goat grew very great, that is, after the goat conquered the Medes and Persians. It became a dominant power.
Revelation 6:2
2.And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.
Could it be said then, that the he-goat set out conquering and to conquer as Alexander the Great did?
Daniel 7:6
6."After this I looked, and there was another, like a leopard, which had on its back four wings of a bird. The beast also had four heads, and dominion was given to it.
In the book of Revelation, we know about the Harlot Babylon, and that the ten horned beast hates the harlot, and will burn her with fire.
Revelation 17:18
18."And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth."
Now if there are four kingdoms that arise that make up the kingdom of the anti-christ yet the ten horned beast is one of those kingdoms, it can be deduced that Harlot Babylon is also one of those four kingdoms.
In Daniel, we see the Leopard has four heads and four wings and has dominion, but in Revelation 17 we see Babylon reigns over the kings of the earth.
Amid much speculation of many Christians that this is the RCC or some sort of religious dominance over society. That argument does not fit into the rest of the prophecy concerning the end times.
I do not see the RCC conquering the world and becoming dominant, or being one of those four kingdoms.
For one, the RCC has no military might and could not possibly achieve world domination in this manner.
If you were to completely lay these prophecies on the table, it seems obvious (to me anyway) that the leopard is also the same entity as Harlot Babylon.
The four wings and four heads on the leopard would suggest dominance by air and land.
Another speculation by many Christians is that the first seal, or the rider of the white horse in Revelation 6 is symbolic of the anti-christ. Yet in none of the seals, does it speak of anything about the beast or the ten horns.
And we also must look at the fact that there are four horsemen, symbolic of the four kingdoms that rise up to form the new world order of the anti-christ.
What I am saying is, is that the first seal is symbolic of the ram, and is symbolic of Matthew 24:7
"For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places.
And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer
____
Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name's sake.
When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held.
In Revelation 13 it is described as one beast with four distinct parts.
And to look at this in a practical value, it would be a phenomena that is taking place in our present day. Because with the economies of the world on the verge of collapse, strange weather, and now mysterious earthquakes presenting themselves off the coast of Oregon, and numerous happenings all over our world, there is no doubt in my mind that the return of Lord Jesus is drawing ever closer.
Prophecy should be seen as a whole complete picture, and the link I would like to stress is the rise of four kingdoms.
If we look at the Word of God and we see what the Holy Spirit tells us, it becomes clear that these four kingdoms will create a new world economic order.
Daniel 8:1-9
1.In the third year of the reign of King Belshazzar a vision appeared to me-- to me, Daniel-- after the one that appeared to me the first time.
2.I saw in the vision, and it so happened while I was looking, that I was in Shushan, the citadel, which is in the province of Elam; and I saw in the vision that I was by the River Ulai.
3.Then I lifted my eyes and saw, and there, standing beside the river, was a ram which had two horns, and the two horns were high; but one was higher than the other, and the higher one came up last.
4.I saw the ram pushing westward, northward, and southward, so that no beast could withstand him; nor was there any that could deliver from his hand, but he did according to his will and became great.
5.And as I was considering, suddenly a male goat came from the west, across the surface of the whole earth, without touching the ground; and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes.
6.Then he came to the ram that had two horns, which I had seen standing beside the river, and ran at him with furious power.
7.And I saw him confronting the ram; he was moved with rage against him, attacked the ram, and broke his two horns. There was no power in the ram to withstand him, but he cast him down to the ground and trampled him; and there was no one that could deliver the ram from his hand.
8.Therefore the male goat grew very great; but when he became strong, the large horn was broken, and in place of it four notable ones came up toward the four winds of heaven.
9.And out of one of them came a little horn which grew exceedingly great toward the south, toward the east, and toward the Glorious Land.
Theologians and bible scholars say that these verses describe the rise of Alexander the Great and Antiochus Epiphanes. Though I do believe that to be true to an extent there are several things that tell us that it is merely a parallel between the conquering of Alexander and the rise of the world order of the anti-christ.
Verse 5:
And as I was considering, suddenly a male goat came from the west, across the surface of the whole earth, without touching the ground; and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes.
Things to notice in this verse are
-The male goat comes from the west.
-The male goat crosses the whole surface of the earth without touching the ground.
Now scholars will tell you that the symbolic meaning of the goat not touching the ground would translate into the speed in which Alexander traveled in his conquering of Eurasia. Though this may seem plausible. Alexander did not cross the whole surface of the earth to achieve his conquest, and his chariots still touched the ground, when he traveled.
To our contemporary thinking, we can see now that this is a possibility.
That is, a fleet of jets could very well fulfill this prophetic message.
Another thing to note is, is that the Ulai canal, where the Ram resides is in southwestern Iran.
When the goat becomes strong, it is split into four kingdoms. And the Bible tells us that these four kingdoms stretch to the four winds of heaven, meaning the entire world. Alexander did not conquer the entire world, nor when his kingdom was split into four kingdoms did it stretch to the four winds of heaven.
Daniel 8:19
19.And he said, "Look, I am making known to you what shall happen in the latter time of the indignation; for at the appointed time the end shall be.
The beast rises from the sea in Revelation 13, they are the same beasts shown in Daniel 7.
So the Bible gives us more clues as to the meaning of these four kingdoms.
If the he-goat conquers the two horned ram, it is obviously a war that takes place, that will set up these four kingdoms.
Jesus tells us in the Olivette discourse that nation shall rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom.
Jesus does not give us a specific kingdom, but rather, a world wide event, a world war will take place towards the end of this age.
And looking at our present day situation, it can be concluded that this war is describing world war three.
We all know, listening to the news reports, that we are drawing closer to a war such as this.
So where does this war relate to the Revelation of John?
Verse 8:
8.Therefore the male goat grew very great; but when he became strong, the large horn was broken, and in place of it four notable ones came up toward the four winds of heaven.
We read here that the male goat grew very great, that is, after the goat conquered the Medes and Persians. It became a dominant power.
Revelation 6:2
2.And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.
Could it be said then, that the he-goat set out conquering and to conquer as Alexander the Great did?
Daniel 7:6
6."After this I looked, and there was another, like a leopard, which had on its back four wings of a bird. The beast also had four heads, and dominion was given to it.
In the book of Revelation, we know about the Harlot Babylon, and that the ten horned beast hates the harlot, and will burn her with fire.
Revelation 17:18
18."And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth."
Now if there are four kingdoms that arise that make up the kingdom of the anti-christ yet the ten horned beast is one of those kingdoms, it can be deduced that Harlot Babylon is also one of those four kingdoms.
In Daniel, we see the Leopard has four heads and four wings and has dominion, but in Revelation 17 we see Babylon reigns over the kings of the earth.
Amid much speculation of many Christians that this is the RCC or some sort of religious dominance over society. That argument does not fit into the rest of the prophecy concerning the end times.
I do not see the RCC conquering the world and becoming dominant, or being one of those four kingdoms.
For one, the RCC has no military might and could not possibly achieve world domination in this manner.
If you were to completely lay these prophecies on the table, it seems obvious (to me anyway) that the leopard is also the same entity as Harlot Babylon.
The four wings and four heads on the leopard would suggest dominance by air and land.
Another speculation by many Christians is that the first seal, or the rider of the white horse in Revelation 6 is symbolic of the anti-christ. Yet in none of the seals, does it speak of anything about the beast or the ten horns.
And we also must look at the fact that there are four horsemen, symbolic of the four kingdoms that rise up to form the new world order of the anti-christ.
What I am saying is, is that the first seal is symbolic of the ram, and is symbolic of Matthew 24:7
"For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places.
And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer
____
Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name's sake.
When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held.
Rog and Bible Prophecy
I have studied and read the commentaries of many bible scholars all my life and I am 77 years old. Never in my life time have I heard such distortion of Gods prophecies. I will not read any post by you and hope that people are not misled by these postings you have made. sonnyd.
I have studied and read the commentaries of many bible scholars all my life and I am 77 years old. Never in my life time have I heard such distortion of Gods prophecies. I will not read any post by you and hope that people are not misled by these postings you have made. sonnyd.
Well brother, when you see 4 economic unions formed after WWIII know it is very near. One union exists, - the European Union, another is in the works - The North American Union, and the other 2 are on the drawing board - The African Union and the Asian Union.
You can google each one of these and find information about them. They are not conspiracy theories but are actual events taking place now.
Instead of going off of what you have read, ask the Holy Spirit within you to bare witness to these things.
There is no distortion here.
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Hi brothers sisters, if i haven't welcomed you i do so now Welcome to Talk Jesus forums. Please be patient and considerate of one another in this thread, if you disagree here you disagree. Just remember you are speaking about bible prophecy. And the book of revelation and Daniels visions, are some of the hardest books, or prophecy to interpret. So don't get too dogmatic please. Remember knowledge can get you puffed up, but charity edifies
Thank you, God bless
Adam
Thank you, God bless
Adam
My Brother in Jesus, 'Fellowservant', has noted that some if you good folks are recent members of 'talkjesus'
With him I also extend a welcome to you...in Jesus
On the subject of the prophetic future, I ask you to please exercise the spirit of 'longsuffering' with those with whom you may differ.
We all have our 'opinions' on these exciting matters. And it is 'good to talk'
We all love Jesus...........that is the important thing.
In His Love
With him I also extend a welcome to you...in Jesus
On the subject of the prophetic future, I ask you to please exercise the spirit of 'longsuffering' with those with whom you may differ.
We all have our 'opinions' on these exciting matters. And it is 'good to talk'
We all love Jesus...........that is the important thing.
In His Love
Thank you felloewservant. I freely acknowledge that my comment was very dogmatic and I beg forgiveness from Rog and bibleprophecy.
I know that I can not agree with them. Each must answer for their teachings to God. We must work out our own salvation with fear and trembling.
I also retract my statement that I will not read their postings. Perhaps
I may be able to understand what they are trying to present.
The book of Daniel I find is the easiest of all prophecies to understand.
Each vision he received is also interpreted for him by God.
I made a mistake. Pray for me and my our Lord Jesus bless you all sonnyd
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No problem brother, i have disagreed on many interpretations of prophecy myself When we disagree, we should try and show where we think that person is incorrect in their doctrines, with scripture. I don't agree with the idea, that the Dead Sea is the location of the bottomless pit. But who knows for sure, theres no scripture to say that this pit is in the Dead Sea. So if your making guesses your guessing. Even if its an educated guess, its a guess, not uninfallible truth. So my advice is to stick with scripture, to interpret scripture.
Carry on, this is not a rebuke to stop your views or teachings, just a friendly warning to remain humble. The only views i would not recommend, and even warn Chad about, are well known, maybe even damnable heresies on prophecy (ie Preterism) and such. The rest are just disagreements and misinterpretations, your not going to lose your salvation if you don't understand all of prophecy. We are not saved by knowing all of prophecy, or all of scripture. We are saved by grace through faith in Christ. Although these should be understood as much as possible to avoid deception.
God bless
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So here i will disagree Not all was understood, even by Daniel.
Dan 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
Dan 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
Dan 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
Dan 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
Ive been studying some of this for a long time, and im still confused
God gives this knowledge out a little at a time. So it will all be known in his time, not ours. Why? because the words are sealed till the time of the end. But like i said carry on, we can all learn over time. Im not refering to the easy to be understood things like the anti-christ, but the more harder sayings of prophecy. (ie dark sentences) Did you know that the anti-christ will understand dark sentences too? He must in order to deceive, pride will be his downfall.Dan 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
Dan 8:24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
Dan 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify [himself] in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.
God bless
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A little something for our high mindedness with others Do we teach out of love for others, or just for our sakes? I hope its for love of others.
1Co 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become [as] sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
1Co 13:2 And though I have [the gift of] prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
1Co 13:3And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
1Co 13:4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
1Co 13:5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
1Co 13:6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
1Co 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
lol i should have kept all of this in one tread, sorry!
God bless all
1Co 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become [as] sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
1Co 13:2 And though I have [the gift of] prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
1Co 13:3And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
1Co 13:4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
1Co 13:5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
1Co 13:6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
1Co 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
lol i should have kept all of this in one tread, sorry!
God bless all
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