Abortion And Rape

[Fragrant Grace]

I do NOT believe in abortion. Granted there may be some cases that perhaps it could be medically necessary. My sister who is one yr. older than I (49) when she was 14 was raped, people kept telling her to abort or give it up for adoption, but she refused & she kept the baby & that baby is now grown, loves the Lord, had 7 yrs. of college is married to a lawyer & they have two beautiful children & when she was born our family had not only gone through the rape of my sister at that time, but another major event happened around that same time, so when this child was born, she was a blessing to our ENTIRE family and still is to this day!
Also, when I was 23 I got pregnant out of wedlock. The man who is the biological father of my now 25 yr. old son I knew had a past, but did not realize just how much of a past he had until I was 6 months pregnant and he was arrested for a hidious crime & went to prison & there I was all alone & pregnant. Everyone tried to get me to abort the baby & I refused, first off because I don't believe in abortion, 2nd off because I felt that the Lord showed me a vision of my son preaching from behind a pulpit one day. I after that had people prophesy & ask me if I knew I had a preacher in my stomach. I said; "Yes I do!" And I raised him in church & taught him how to have a one on one relationship w/Jesus Christ. Today my son has gone to 3 yrs. seminary college & is now is in his 4th yr. of public college to be able to also do counceling as well he has been on the Deans list every yr. of both colleges. And, a yr. ago he was asked to take a church out in Connecticut and he did. He is married to a beautiful young lady (whom i love dearly to say the least) she is not only beautiful on the outside but is very beautiful on the inside as well, which makes her most unique! My son has traveled the world as missionary also. With God & my sons persauna, he has reached people that others cannot reach. There is so much to tell how God has used this young man for His glory. When he was young he had ADHD people told me that he would end up just like his father & would never amount to nothing. People were even so cruel as to tell him this as well. I would put people in their place when they talked negative against my son and ALWAYS ALWAYS told my son that he WAS a SOMEBODY! To this day my son tells me that that is what kept him going cause he says he knew I would never lie to him. As he aged his ADHD left him (Gods healing touch. He is very calm now. I had a test done twice when he was growing up (as refered by doctors) to test his I.Q. because doctors were amazed at how smart he was. The test both times, showed he had the I.Q. of Einstein!
I share these stories in hopes that they may one day help some mother out there contemplating abortion or a child that feels like he/she is a nobody.

Thank you for posting this Cherokee

I agree with you....and Praise the Lord that you have a wonderful son and niece.

Before I formed you in the womb I knew you;
Jeremiah 1:5

 

[Fragrant Grace]

He shall feed His flock like a shepherd: He shall gather the lambs with His arm, and carry them in His bosom, and shall gently lead those that are with young.
Isaiah 40:11


Reading this thread has reminded me of some horrific memories I have of seeing a number of freshly aborted babies....waiting to be disposed of like garbage.

This is my write up of the situation that I witnessed. I wrote it in a post on a thread started by rizen1 called Personhood Redefined back in 2008.


'In January this year I spent some time in hospital on a womens ward. I needed to go into the sluice room....and when I did, I was faced with 10 cardboard bedpans lined up, all uncovered and full...each had the label 'unwanted products of conception for disposal'. It breaks my heart that these fearfully and wonderfully made babies are just labelled as unwanted products....waiting in line in a dirty sluice for 'getting rid of'

And one young girl , in the bed next to me, who was under the age of 20 was in hospital for her 3rd abortion....she laughed saying the nurses called her one of their conveyor belt customers. Precious lives reduced to products for slaughter.

Mere rubbish to some humans but, so precious to the Lord....Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee Jeremiah 1:5'


SpiritLedEd made a valuable response to that post:

SpiritLedEd Satan introduced smooth tongued deceitfulness into the earth in Genesis 3("Did God REALLy say.......?") and people have been duped by him and his servants ever since as we've allowed the media and other speakers and writers to do our thinking for us.

Phrases like "products of conception " are more palatable than the word "babies" to those who would salve their consciences to justify abortion. They ever so subtly turn evil into "not so bad" and infant genocide into "unwanted pregnancy". They "clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self indulgence."
(Mt 23:25NIV)

The church needs to stand up and say "No!" to the practice of using word manipulation to justify sin and that campaign needs to begin in the church.

SLE

Link to the Personhood Redfined Thread

http://www.talkjesus.com/ethics-morality/23230-personhood-redefined.html#post116946


How can Christian's (or anyone) ever justify abortion?

 

[Cherokee]

That is HORRIBLE!! Just breaks your heart!

 

[jeniffercluff]

I really do believe that life is a miracle and I just don’t ever think that abortion is okay…

 

[dannibear]

I do NOT believe in abortion. Granted there may be some cases that perhaps it could be medically necessary. My sister who is one yr. older than I (49) when she was 14 was raped, people kept telling her to abort or give it up for adoption, but she refused & she kept the baby & that baby is now grown, loves the Lord, had 7 yrs. of college is married to a lawyer & they have two beautiful children & when she was born our family had not only gone through the rape of my sister at that time, but another major event happened around that same time, so when this child was born, she was a blessing to our ENTIRE family and still is to this day!
Also, when I was 23 I got pregnant out of wedlock. The man who is the biological father of my now 25 yr. old son I knew had a past, but did not realize just how much of a past he had until I was 6 months pregnant and he was arrested for a hidious crime & went to prison & there I was all alone & pregnant. Everyone tried to get me to abort the baby & I refused, first off because I don't believe in abortion, 2nd off because I felt that the Lord showed me a vision of my son preaching from behind a pulpit one day. I after that had people prophesy & ask me if I knew I had a preacher in my stomach. I said; "Yes I do!" And I raised him in church & taught him how to have a one on one relationship w/Jesus Christ. Today my son has gone to 3 yrs. seminary college & is now is in his 4th yr. of public college to be able to also do counceling as well he has been on the Deans list every yr. of both colleges. And, a yr. ago he was asked to take a church out in Connecticut and he did. He is married to a beautiful young lady (whom i love dearly to say the least) she is not only beautiful on the outside but is very beautiful on the inside as well, which makes her most unique! My son has traveled the world as missionary also. With God & my sons persauna, he has reached people that others cannot reach. There is so much to tell how God has used this young man for His glory. When he was young he had ADHD people told me that he would end up just like his father & would never amount to nothing. People were even so cruel as to tell him this as well. I would put people in their place when they talked negative against my son and ALWAYS ALWAYS told my son that he WAS a SOMEBODY! To this day my son tells me that that is what kept him going cause he says he knew I would never lie to him. As he aged his ADHD left him (Gods healing touch. He is very calm now. I had a test done twice when he was growing up (as refered by doctors) to test his I.Q. because doctors were amazed at how smart he was. The test both times, showed he had the I.Q. of Einstein!
I share these stories in hopes that they may one day help some mother out there contemplating abortion or a child that feels like he/she is a nobody.

Thank you very much for sharing this. This is really inspirational!
God had a plan for those children right in the beginning. He was
there in that moment and is here now. God Bless you dear child of God!

 

[farout]

Brother Mike: I think I have heard Benny Hinn say much the same sorta things. He justifies a world class aout with the initals R R. which I don't think there is any way to have such wealth when people are dying for the lack of clean water, shoes, food. Now these are TRUE needs. There is NO WAY to prova jet plane is cheaper to use rather than a public airline.

 

[farout]

Thank you for sharing these two wonderful actual life experiences. I truely believe woman are the "softer ones" Not the "weaker ones" I have heard some woman say things kinda the same. Bless you all.

 

[Brother Mike]

flight:

Farout:

when people are dying for the lack of clean water, shoes, food.

Job 36:11 If they obey and serve him, they shall spend their days in prosperity, and their years in pleasures.

Why do you think that is Farout, that people lack all these things?

Mat 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

There is NO WAY to prova jet plane is cheaper to use rather than a public airline.

The most expensive thing we have is time. Time is far more a valuable commodity than money. It's one thing we can not buy, no matter how much money.

Eph 5:16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.

If you have to preach all over, it takes all day to get from A-B providing there are no delays. In your own Jet, it takes about 4 hrs to get from mid united states to one of the coast, no delays, and lots of rest in prayer.

You can't bring your own equipment, you have to borrow theirs, you can't bring your praise team, you just use their resources. We should not be taking from other churches, but Going there free with no burden on those to who God sent us.

Money:
Right now with certification, maintenance, proper documents, It is cheaper to own your own Jet, then to fly commercial. Businesses have known this for a long time. You save money, by having your own.

Right now, Jets are pretty cheap. 1.5 to 3 million dollars. Pretty amazing.

I have considered though a prop plane.... 500,000 or less. A normal (EXPENSIVE) corporate Jet can do about 500 MPH and stay above weather.

Commercial Jets only do about 400mph tops. They have lots more drag to lift ratio though.

Prop planes AVG from 250-400mph before loosing power/ fuel ratio. , some can hit 600mph (Special ones) . They are far less expensive to operate, and some don't go much slower than a commercial jet.

It's all perspective Brother, where is your poverty line drawn?

BACK to ABORTION: I can move this money stuff if some feel it clutters the thread.

Jesus Is Lord.