About Satan

Eric E Stahl · May 19, 2013

Satan has freedom to come to earth and go to the throne of God now.

Revelation 12:6-14
6 Then [SUB]j[/SUB] the woman(Israel) fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there [SUB]k[/SUB] one thousand two hundred and sixty days.(Last half of the tribulation)
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.(Satan doing now!)
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time,(Last half of the tribulation) from the face of the serpent(Satan).

Eric E Stahl · May 25, 2013

Eric E Stahl said:
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Satan is the prince of this world and the power of the air now.

Ephesians 2:1-5
1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved

Satan has freedom to come to earth and go to the throne of God now.

Revelation 12:6-14
6 Then [SUB]j[/SUB] the woman(Israel) fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there [SUB]k[/SUB] one thousand two hundred and sixty days.(Last half of the tribulation)
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.(Satan doing now!)
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time,(Last half of the tribulation) from the face of the serpent(Satan).

DutchChristian · May 25, 2013

Eric E Stahl said:
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Satan is still in control and will stay in control

NO ONLY GOD IS SOVEREIGN AND IN CONTROL!

When are we going to stop talking about the devil, the trickster the wicked deceiver and liar lying potty mount: the devil wicked name satan?

GOD IS SOVEREIGN AND IN CONTROL

satan is only a little frog

spirit1st · May 25, 2013

satan CANNOT go to GOD any more! he banned from New Jerusalem ! he cannot even see how it looks!

satan can no longer speak to God !

he was kicked out when Jesus was born into this world !
Rev 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

nothing evil can enter NEW JERUSALEM ! It pure and perfect !
Rev 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

There was a another Heaven , which was defiled by the fallen angels entering it ! That why our Lord made a New Heaven , NEW JERUSALEM !

That why He creates all new heavens here and a new planet and makes the few willing ? a New Creature ! That why everything we see is only for a short time and then destoryed 100% ! Nothing we see in space or here is eternal It all gets burnt up and destoryed !

2Co_4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

Rev_21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

2Co_5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Gal_6:15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.

I know many are taught our defiled flesh body and mind are going to arise someday and be made new ! It a LIE ! Easy to misunderstand !

But HE does not make new things out of sinful things ! He creator He makes New perfect things only out of perfect things or Nothing !

1Co_15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

Our flesh is defiled at birth and dies because of it ! He did not die for our flesh too be made perfect! He died that we could be made new creatures !

The life of all flesh is in the Blood ! The life of our new Spirit is Jesus Christ ! the Word!

Our new Bodies He has in New Jerusalem will not have blood!

Those that have already dumped there flesh body have already recieved there new body there!

we see they wear robes , sing , raise there hands and talk with each other and the LORD!

I pray the Spirit of truth reveals this to others as He has me!

revelations 12 starts all over telling the same story again . But starts with the birth of JEsus ! Jesus went to egypt and stayed there until herod died ! the flood was when herod sent His army to kill all the little kids under two years old in that city and the areas around it !

Listen to me ? If you can hear the LORD ? Just ask HIm ! The Holy Ghost waits 24/7 for us to but ask ! He wants us to know perfect truth with the perfect understanding and it never personal ! As He is NO Respecter of persons!

Joh 17:20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
Joh 17:9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.

1Co_13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
JESUS was and is the PERFECT ONE! Who was too come ! It was finished on the cross when He died !

Joh_17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
Joh_19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

Eric E Stahl · May 25, 2013

DutchChristian said:
NO ONLY GOD IS SOVEREIGN AND IN CONTROL!

When are we going to stop talking about the devil, the trickster the wicked deceiver and liar lying potty mount: the devil wicked name satan?

GOD IS SOVEREIGN AND IN CONTROL

satan is only a little frog

Yes God is in control.

Daniel 4:32
32 And they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field: they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and seven times shall pass over thee, until thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.
Ephesians 2:1-5
1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

It is God's will that Satan is the prince of the power of the air for now. But in the middle of the tribulation God will have him cast to the earth for judgment with the kings of the earth.

farout · May 26, 2013

Does satan have the power to take a life? Can someone please give Scripture to back your answer. blessings

farout

spirit1st · May 26, 2013

1Co_5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

2Ti_2:26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

That way muslims and others give there lives ! Thinking they are doing good ! Or people being tricked to kill themselves!

satan puts lies in peoples minds ! Some think they are truth ?

spirit1st · May 26, 2013

satan does not have power over our lives! but if we do not know the truth ? we can get in messed up things ?
We too have believe evil thoughts and mess up ?
You understand even some born of God can be tricked !
There was a lady who thought she heard God and killed all her children 1 i do not know if she was born again or Not ! I doubt she was !

satan the great deciever , meaning he knows how too trick many ? but if we are trusting in our Lord and following Him ! Then we will not be tricked !
God KEEPS Us we do not keep our selves!
satan using people all the time to hurt and kill others and even themselves!

Some are so full of sin they are so unhappy taking drugs or drinking to try to find peace and joy !
When the Truth is God offers it and it greater peace and joy than any drugs or drinking or even a person could give us !
We lose so much by not accepting Him as Lord and following only HIM !

satan decieves many , by making them think they will lose something by accept the LORD JESUS CHRIST , When in truth ? WE GAIN EVERYTHING !

spirit1st · May 26, 2013

Listen to me ? The OLD testament was in part ! The New testament is the complete truth ! It not in part , it full filled the old !

satan cannot appear in New Jerusalem !he done ! he knows it ! he beaten and God does not listen to any of his junk !

Rom_8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
2Ti_1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
2Pe_1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

God sees each of His children Holy and without sins and His kings and priests forbever more !

satan nothing the least child of GOd can put him away ! he has no choice he must obey us 1 We just tell him to get going in the name of OUR LORD JESUS CHRIS! ! and take his dumb evil thoughts with him ! and he must go ! that does not mean he will not try again !

i cast him out my self and i am no more than the least in the LORD true unseen church and i am no man of great faith !

Your Born of GOd perfect seed ? Then You have the power to raise the dead heal the sick and cast out devils and Much more !

Mat_10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.
Act_26:8 Why should it be thought a thing incredible with you, that God should raise the dead?

Act_10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:

The only differance in any of us is the anoitings He called us to do we get 1 But HE can use any of us at any time to do any miracles He wants us too ! He not bound by the anointings ! We All have everything in us , because We All have the Giver !

Your Not lacking anything ! But maybe Not walking in Your Spoirit enough or the knowledge of God true understanding and His living Words ?

2Pe_1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

Mat_7:11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
Luk_11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

Many might not understand What a powerful being God has made each of us !

Col_3:25 But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.

Eph_6:9 And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him.

Rom_2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

I just want all too know! God not counting YOU less than the greatest man or woman of God ever !

He sees all of us in the flesh as sinners and all of us Born of HIM as Holy and perfect and without any fault ! We might judge our selves by our weak mind and flesh !This is not true judgment for us !Because we are a perfect pure Spirit being , like our Lord JESUS !

Mat_17:20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

Of course He does it all , He just uses the few willing! So we should never think we are more or great or anything like that !He wants us to accept and tell others HE did it 1 He gets the Glory and Honor !

Ophel · May 27, 2013

farout said:
Does satan have the power to take a life? Can someone please give Scripture to back your answer. blessings

farout

Satan is a thief...he steals lives, our joy (if we let him), and he steals the answers to our prayers.

[h=3]John 10:9-10[/h]
9 I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture. 10 The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.

Eric E Stahl · May 27, 2013

farout said:
Does satan have the power to take a life? Can someone please give Scripture to back your answer. blessings

farout

Read the first few chapters of Job. The devil must get permission to harm us.

Eric E Stahl · May 27, 2013

spirit1st said:
Listen to me ? The OLD testament was in part ! The New testament is the complete truth ! It not in part , it full filled the old !

satan cannot appear in New Jerusalem !he done ! he knows it ! he beaten and God does not listen to any of his junk !

Rom_8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
2Ti_1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
2Pe_1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

God sees each of His children Holy and without sins and His kings and priests forbever more !

satan nothing the least child of GOd can put him away ! he has no choice he must obey us 1 We just tell him to get going in the name of OUR LORD JESUS CHRIS! ! and take his dumb evil thoughts with him ! and he must go ! that does not mean he will not try again !

i cast him out my self and i am no more than the least in the LORD true unseen church and i am no man of great faith !

Your Born of GOd perfect seed ? Then You have the power to raise the dead heal the sick and cast out devils and Much more !

Mat_10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.
Act_26:8 Why should it be thought a thing incredible with you, that God should raise the dead?

Act_10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:

The only differance in any of us is the anoitings He called us to do we get 1 But HE can use any of us at any time to do any miracles He wants us too ! He not bound by the anointings ! We All have everything in us , because We All have the Giver !

Your Not lacking anything ! But maybe Not walking in Your Spoirit enough or the knowledge of God true understanding and His living Words ?

2Pe_1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

Mat_7:11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
Luk_11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

Many might not understand What a powerful being God has made each of us !

Col_3:25 But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.

Eph_6:9 And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him.

Rom_2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

I just want all too know! God not counting YOU less than the greatest man or woman of God ever !

He sees all of us in the flesh as sinners and all of us Born of HIM as Holy and perfect and without any fault ! We might judge our selves by our weak mind and flesh !This is not true judgment for us !Because we are a perfect pure Spirit being , like our Lord JESUS !

Mat_17:20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

Of course He does it all , He just uses the few willing! So we should never think we are more or great or anything like that !He wants us to accept and tell others HE did it 1 He gets the Glory and Honor !

Spirit1st,

Revelation 12:10-14
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

God will not remove the Devil or the accuser of the brethren from the third heaven till the middle of the tribulation. The devil will then persecute the woman ,Israel, for a time, times and half a time or 3.5 years.

spirit1st · May 27, 2013

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

It PAST TENSE! he no longer can tell GOD anything ! he was kicked out ! he bound to earth and the heavens here !

he been beaten in every way 1

This has already taken place!

hundred and threescore days.
Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

This is all already done !
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

he trapped here and all the dumb fallen angels who followed him !

This is Now our place in the LORD!
Col_1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

Eph_3:15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,

he could not say anything now anyway! We are in JESUS CHRIST ! how could he say anything bad about JESUS CHRIST!

Col_2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
Nothing he could say we did ! Jesus already paid the full price! Nothing left to say bad about us !

Eph_2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

That Us the perfect Body of our LORD JESUS CHRIST and HE alone the HEAD 1 That why we only follow the Head ! There is ONLY ONE HEAD ! Our LORD !

Eph_2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved

Eric E Stahl · May 27, 2013

spirit1st said:
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

It PAST TENSE! he no longer can tell GOD anything ! he was kicked out ! he bound to earth and the heavens here !

he been beaten in every way 1

This has already taken place!

hundred and threescore days.
Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

This is all already done !
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

he trapped here and all the dumb fallen angels who followed him !

This is Now our place in the LORD!
Col_1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

Eph_3:15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,

he could not say anything now anyway! We are in JESUS CHRIST ! how could he say anything bad about JESUS CHRIST!

Col_2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
Nothing he could say we did ! Jesus already paid the full price! Nothing left to say bad about us !

Eph_2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

That Us the perfect Body of our LORD JESUS CHRIST and HE alone the HEAD 1 That why we only follow the Head ! There is ONLY ONE HEAD ! Our LORD !

Eph_2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved

Spirit1st,

John saw a vision of a prophecy in Revelation chapter 12. The casting of Satan to earth was past tense within the vision but the event will not happen untill the 7th trumpet judgment and the third woe during the tribulation. This is when Revelation 11:15 takes place and the kingdoms of this world become the kingdoms of our Lord and his Christ.

spirit1st · May 27, 2013

In revelations chapter 10 TIME is NO MORE !

Rev 10:6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:

This is judgment Day !

Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Then it tells the story all over again in Chapter 12 !

It begins with the birth of our LORD JESUS !

I have to disagree with you Man !
But It ok ! I still Love you and value you very much ! It ok to disagree ! We can only live in the light we have ! It does not make Us More or LESS! We are All in a growing process that begins as soon as we are Born into GOD family and Household !

They were cast out of the old heaven ! bound to the earth and the areas around it !
nothing can enter the New heaven [New jerusalem ] that evil !

They had entered the old heaven and defiled it ! that why our Creator ! created a New heaven [NEW JERUSALEM} !
We see clearly Nothing evil can enter it !

Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

1Pe_5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
he bound here !Yet he knows we have power over him 1 he beat and he a coward !

he CANNOT enter NEW JERUSALEM ! No sin filled thing can ever enter there !
Rev_21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

The Question is simple ? When did salvation come ? It came after satan and his dummies were KICKED out of heaven !

Listen it simple ! Why would God create a New place ? Because the old place had been Defiled by the rebelling angels who entered it !

Joh_14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

Heb_12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
This is a NEW CREATIOn made just for us !
Once sin enters a place or person it must be destoryed 1
that why He creating new being here and later a new planet and the new heavens we see here !

Rev_21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

He started with mankind , making the few willing a new creature , He ends by creating a new earth and the heaven we see out there in space!

2Co_5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Gal_6:15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.

Rev_2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

Because our Spirit is a New Creature and must have a New Name ! our flesh names die with our flesh !gone Forever more!
the New Creature He makes us is the Holy perfect child of God ! It has NO flaws ! just a lack of knowledge !

Eze_11:19 And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh:
Eze_18:31 Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
Eze_36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

Eph_2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Eph_4:24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
Col_3:10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:

There no flaws in God new creature ! we are made from GOD perfect seed , and we are Just perfectly like our LORD JESUS!

1Co 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
We have Power over them Now and they must Bow before us on the judgment day ! They know it and fear us NOW!

Joh_14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

spirit1st · May 27, 2013

Part of the vision was past part was future ! God was revealing what already took place spiritual that we do not see !

1Jn_3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

farout · May 27, 2013

Reading Job, there are somethings that make me wonder just how much power satan has. (I refuse to use a "S" in spelling the wicked evil ones name so that's why is use a small "s".
I can say I hate satan. If we all took such an attitude than evangelism would abound, and more would surrender to Jesus Christ. (I am a non Calvinists)

Now here is a question. satan can not read our mind. When praying silently does that not mean satan can not hear our prayer ? right ? I am reminded that "Greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world." If we think for one second that satan can not touch us we are foolish. In Job, satan goes to Yahweh and wants to show Job will fall if Job's faithfullness is attacked. Does satan have access to Yahweh to do this ti us today? Blessings.

PS; Let us remember those who fought and died for our freedom. There are those who suffer today for their service, and were injured, or became exposed to harmful things that disable them today. Pray for our country and those who are in service to us. What a blessing it is to live in the USA !

Eric E Stahl · May 27, 2013

farout said:
Reading Job, there are somethings that make me wonder just how much power satan has. (I refuse to use a "S" in spelling the wicked evil ones name so that's why is use a small "s".
I can say I hate satan. If we all took such an attitude than evangelism would abound, and more would surrender to Jesus Christ. (I am a non Calvinists)

Now here is a question. satan can not read our mind. When praying silently does that not mean satan can not hear our prayer ? right ? I am reminded that "Greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world." If we think for one second that satan can not touch us we are foolish. In Job, satan goes to Yahweh and wants to show Job will fall if Job's faithfullness is attacked. Does satan have access to Yahweh to do this ti us today? Blessings.

PS; Let us remember those who fought and died for our freedom. There are those who suffer today for their service, and were injured, or became exposed to harmful things that disable them today. Pray for our country and those who are in service to us. What a blessing it is to live in the USA !

spirit1st · May 27, 2013

In the old testament , satan was able to talk with GOD ! but he was kicked out and can no longer go to heaven and be before GOD ! he limited in what he can do now ! If we listen to his junk ? then we can be tricked! but we are too rebuke those dumb evil thoughts he speaks to our minds and rebuke him !

he has no power what so ever over us , unless we allow it ! and the only part of us that can allow it is our flesh mind ! our spirit will never do anything he says ! it will not even listen to him !

Our New spirit is just like our LORD JESUS!
satan can trick the young christian for sure ! Because they do not know the truth and are limited to what they know !
Many times they have been taught the wrong understanding of many scriptures !

It the truth that sets us free 1 free of all sin and free of the devils darts !

Luk_8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.

Heb_5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

2Co 2:11 Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.

satan speaks to mankind in our minds ! Just as the Lord also speaks to us in our minds ! we must decide which thoughts are from the LORd and which from demons ? we rebuke the demons thoughts and tell them to get going and take there dumb evil thoughts with them . In the mighty name of our LORD JESUS CHRIST ! they have no join they must take the dumb thoughts and go 1

But they will try again ?

he just a liar and deceiver ! his power is very limited ! and the weakest child of GOd is Much more powerful than all the dumb demons together !

1Jn_4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

2Co_6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

God is not fellowship with satan or the demons!

Eph_5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

We see Jesus did this !

Mat_16:23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Eric E Stahl · May 30, 2013

spirit1st said:
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

It PAST TENSE! he no longer can tell GOD anything ! he was kicked out ! he bound to earth and the heavens here !

he been beaten in every way 1

This has already taken place!

hundred and threescore days.
Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

This is all already done !
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

he trapped here and all the dumb fallen angels who followed him !

This is Now our place in the LORD!
Col_1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

Eph_3:15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,

he could not say anything now anyway! We are in JESUS CHRIST ! how could he say anything bad about JESUS CHRIST!

Col_2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
Nothing he could say we did ! Jesus already paid the full price! Nothing left to say bad about us !

Eph_2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

That Us the perfect Body of our LORD JESUS CHRIST and HE alone the HEAD 1 That why we only follow the Head ! There is ONLY ONE HEAD ! Our LORD !

Eph_2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved

John saw the vision of satan being cast to the earth in the middle of the tribulation. He is writing the vision as past tense because the vision of the future is over.

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