Abuse Is Not A Reason For Divorce

[Reba1]

That is not true nor scriptural.
A wife has every right - 1Corinthians 7 - to separate herself and her children if need be - from a violent and abusive husband
1. it is not what marriage is about for such is a denial of love and certainly a violent denial of the following
Col 3:19 Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them.
Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her,
Eph 5:28 In the same way husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.

2. when a husband ceases to be a believing Christian and behaves with wickedness in the flesh then a wife is permitted to leave such
there is no testimony to the gospel in being battered and bruised and having one's life endangered.

Show me where the Scriptures tell the abused spouse they have a right of divorce? The above passages do not say divorces ok. Yes it tells husbands to loves the wife but they do not say divorce is ok

 

[Reba1]

1Cor 7:4 For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does.

1Co 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified in the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified in the brother: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
1Co 7:15 Yet if the unbelieving departeth, let him depart: the brother or the sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called you in peace.
an abusive violent husband becomes an unbeliever.

15 says let the unbelieving go it does not say the believer can go get a divorce.

 

[Downunder]

Show me where the Scriptures tell the abused spouse they have a right of divorce? The above passages do not say divorces ok. Yes it tells husbands to loves the wife but they do not say divorce is ok

Show me where I said for a wife should or could divorce her husband.

 

[Downunder]

15 says let the unbelieving go it does not say the believer can go get a divorce.

I wrote nothing about divorce.
A wife or husband may separate themselves from an unbelieving spouse.

 

[PearlB]

1Cor 7:4 For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does.

1Co 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified in the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified in the brother: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
1Co 7:15 Yet if the unbelieving departeth, let him depart: the brother or the sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called you in peace.
an abusive violent husband becomes an unbeliever.

So would

Show me where the Scriptures tell the abused spouse they have a right of divorce? The above passages do not say divorces ok. Yes it tells husbands to loves the wife but they do not say divorce is ok

But a woman can, and should, separate from her abusive and violent husband without there being a divorce.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

As I also said "When a man abuses his wife, he breaks covenant with her...He, by breaking covenant, ends the marriage....The covenant is broken, thus it is of no effect.

 

[Downunder]

As I also said "When a man abuses his wife, he breaks covenant with her...He, by breaking covenant, ends the marriage....The covenant is broken, thus it is of no effect.

are there not words to the effect of to honour and cherish each other - to love in sickness and in health ...

 

[Emmy86]

In no way, shape or form is this post condoning a husband abusing his wife. Violence in any form, is against the word of God! ⁠
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Colossians 3:19 - Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them.⁠
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However, Jesus’ instructions to ‘turn the other cheek’, applies to both men and women, husbands and wives.⁠
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Matthew 5:38-39 - “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.⁠
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A husband who does not obey the word of God, is not a reason for a wife to rebel against her husband. ⁠
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1 Peter 3:1-6 - Wives, likewise, be submissive to your own husbands, that even if some do not obey the word, they, without a word, may be won by the conduct of their wives, ⁠
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Suffering as a servant of Christ is mandated for every believer - men and women, husbands and wives. ⁠
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1 Peter 2:19-20 - 19 For it is commendable if someone bears up under the pain of unjust suffering because they are conscious of God. 20 But how is it to your credit if you receive a beating for doing wrong and endure it? But if you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God.⁠
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We must follow Christ’s example:⁠
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1 John 2:6 - Whoever claims to live in him must live as Jesus did.⁠
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Yet somehow, today’s Christian society has made women and wives exempt from following the teachings of Jesus. We must not align ourselves with the cultural and traditional norms of today’s society over the Bible’s teachings. The bible does not allow a wife to separate/divorce her husband for any reason, even if she is being abused.⁠
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1 Corinthians 7:10 - To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. ⁠

True,The Bible is against divorce.
Am blessed!!

 

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[Reba1]

Show me where I said for a wife should or could divorce her husband.

Your reply of "that is not true or scriptural "

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

are there not words to the effect of to honour and cherish each other - to love in sickness and in health ...

Yup And if he does not honor and cherish then covenant is broken and the marriage is done.

 

[Reba1]

Yup And if he does not honor and cherish then covenant is broken and the marriage is done.

That is what the world says .

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

That is what the world says .

That's what covenant is....A marriage covenant goes until death....or until its smashed by some abusive dolt. That's when a marriage ends. That is the agreement.

 

[Downunder]

That is what the world says .

But how does the NT teach and instruct us
1John 1:
5 This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light and in him is no darkness at all. 6 If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not live according to the truth;
7 but if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.

 

[Downunder]

That is what the world says .

And scripture teaches us
1John 3:
11 For this is the message which you have heard from the beginning, that we should love one another, 12 and not be like Cain who was of the evil one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him?
Because his own deeds were evil and his brother’s righteous. 13 Do not wonder, brethren, that the world hates you.
14 We know that we have passed out of death into life, because we love the brethren. He who does not love abides in death. 15 Any one who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.
16 By this we know love, that he laid down his life for us; and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
17 But if any one has the world’s goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God’s love abide in him?
18 Little children, let us not love in word or speech but in deed and in truth.

There is no place in any marriage, be it Christian or otherwise, for violence, abuse or rape - that is not love.
In Christian marriage such a person walking in wickedness has effectively ceased being a believer and the battered spouse has every right to leave and to be separate from evil.
That does not mean automatic divorce, but separation to save oneself in faith and godliness. A separated wife can still pray for her husband's return to salvation.

 

[Downunder]

Suffering as a servant of Christ is mandated for every believer - men and women, husbands and wives.

Being bashed and thumped is NOT suffering as a servant of Jesus and the gospel. That is suffering at the hands of a man who has forgotten that he was cleansed from his sins by the grace of God.

 

[Reba1]

That is what the world says .

My statement should be a question.

And scripture teaches us
1John 3:
11 For this is the message which you have heard from the beginning, that we should love one another, 12 and not be like Cain who was of the evil one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him?
Because his own deeds were evil and his brother’s righteous. 13 Do not wonder, brethren, that the world hates you.
14 We know that we have passed out of death into life, because we love the brethren. He who does not love abides in death. 15 Any one who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.
16 By this we know love, that he laid down his life for us; and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
17 But if any one has the world’s goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God’s love abide in him?
18 Little children, let us not love in word or speech but in deed and in truth.

There is no place in any marriage, be it Christian or otherwise, for violence, abuse or rape - that is not love.
In Christian marriage such a person walking in wickedness has effectively ceased being a believer and the battered spouse has every right to leave and to be separate from evil.
That does not mean automatic divorce, but separation to save oneself in faith and godliness. A separated wife can still pray for her husband's return to salvation.

 

[Reba1]

I believe we're in agreement

 

[Reba1]

Roman's 13 comes into to play in this discussion. We have assault laws in this country. I believe infidelity is grounds for divorce. Assault is grounds for calling the cops and pressing charges.
55 years ago I searched the scriptures for a way out of my marriage,. I could not find Biblical grounds. Still married to the same guy.


I apologize for any confusing post my old eyes will be happier when I get free of this tablet back to the bigger screen.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

If you abuse your spouse,you are guilty of infidelity.

infidelity
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