Am I now seeking the approval of men, or of God? Or am I striving to please men?

[Hekuran]

and for many years I have attempted to find a group of people, but the search has been futile. All fall way short of what is written in the bible.

I doubt it. The Biblical standard is surprisingly low. For example, Paul had to remind the Ephesians church members to stop stealing. But he still addressed them as "Holy people".

Without fellowship and accountability your maturity in Christ will surely stagnate.

 

[PloughBoy]

@PloughBoy

I notice you have not addressed this question, yet



It may help everyone understand your OP better?


Bless you ....><>

I am tired now, i will get to it. it is not that simple to address. But a lot of people think "The Gospel According to Jesus Christ " is a simple task. and can be explain in simple terms. And to try to do so, would do "The Gospel According to JESUS CHRIST" a great injustice and you will be held accountable, be sure of that!
American Standard Version
Be not many of you teachers, my brethren, knowing that we shall receive heavier judgment.

"Be slow to speak and quick to hear" and always be lead by The Spirit of The LIVING GOD" and Absolutely not by The commands of a Mortal man, who cannot save your soul! So always choose the route of the Creator and Not the commands of the creature at their every whelms

Total Obedience is The Goal.
"Jesus replied, “This is the most important: ‘Hear O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is One. ..Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’"

Then we go forth!

 

[Rhema]

I know you want to be my friend...

One of just a myriad of things you got wrong.

My kids when they was 5 years old knew the books and the Letters of the New Testament writings!

It sounds like you want me to give you a gold star. Why do you write these kinds of boasts? Meaningless factoids that have nothing to do with the discussion at hand. Seeking the approval of men? I have found that type of behaviour comes from deep insecurities. I'm not here to hold your hand, but you ought to know that nobody knows the exact year in which any of the New Testament texts were written. And you should know this. Shame if you don't.

I am a "Calvinist" Of" The Reformed Faith" "Theology Proper"!

Are you? ... you might want to fix that, or make up your mind.

Those "Calvinist" you got to understand "Calvinese" to understand them Ain't none of them going to Heaven, they to smart for their own good

Does it makes you feel good to condemn Calvinists? Why do you make all these posts condemning other Christians? Most people are actually too stupid for their own good.

Our surrounds and neighborhood consists of "Jewish" and "Orthodox Jews", Islamic, Chaldeans, Japanese, Chinese, Koreans, Greek Orthodox, Churches Synagogues and Temples, this is our community our children grew up in. for over 25 years. And Christian music was not tolerated in the schools during Christmas times to not offend other religions. They had "Winter Concerts" and "Happy Holiday Seasons" Celebrations! Now could you imagine them "Witnessing" about Jesus! My wife would get mad at me because i would not disciple our children to stop them from witnessing to their class mate and friends.

Again, this has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation. But if you wish to waste your time posting noise (and boasts) have at it. I don't run things around here.

Please give me a break for a little while. for me to get myself together, y'all been coming after me all day.

PloughBoy, if you don't know what you're talking about, how am I to know? But yes, indeed, please do take the time to collect your thoughts and compose a cogent reply. (One could have just done that to begin with.)

Rhema

Do you know the different from a letter from a "BOOK"? LOL please give me break.

One does wonder where you took lessons in condescension.

 

[Br. Bear]

@Gregoryp

Greetings,

do you mind if i call you/address you as Gregory? Or do you prefer Greg?

All fall way short of what is written in the bible.

Surely this goes for you, also?
If not, you are one of a kind.

Point being here is that you will find that a big part of the whole idea of fellowship is to edify one another, to build each other up, to help each other, to encourage each other, to reprove each other, to share with each other the wonderful things of God in Christ Jesus the Lord. Remember, too, that it is the Body of Christ, not a scattered dismembered bunch of misfits who refuse His Grace and Power to fulfill His will. Christ is the Head, so who should we be united to? The Head. What would He have His Body do and be?

Now, this may stir a little 'controversy', but sometimes i wonder what the reformers actually did that was so praised besides creating division and helping to start what we see today with untold denominations all claiming that the god they have in their box is the one everyone else should be believing in. We don't have to go into all the other 'issues' that have come from the 'reform' but they are many and all too often not things to be proudly linked to.
I am not suggesting everyone becomes what is known as 'Roman Catholic' nor that all the ways of the catholic church are correct. Yes, we do have our Bibles today and Bibles are still being smuggled into restricted countries... and on that point, someone should perhaps go to some of those persecuted lands and tell them to stop meeting together and stop encouraging each other and in effect, stop loving one another so much... and that they can get by fine on their own.

Maybe some of the lone rangers around here and the wide world could, perhaps, get busy helping get some Bibles into the hands of the oppressed and persecuted?

Sure, there are a lot of places that i would not recommend to anyone. But, if we are willing to be led by He Who has called us and He Who has the plan, we might find that He will lead us to where He wants us to be, in fellowship. He is the Good Shepherd, you know.
Some folk think that sheep are all fluffy cute little critters that all get on so well. My suggestin is to go shepherd a flock for a while and see for yourself that they all have their 'personalities' and pecking orders ??? [head butting order] and some are quite pesky compared to others. The Good Shepherd knows His sheep and they know Him and follow Him. [He doesn't have a sheep here on this mountain and another on another hill or vale. A flock is a flock.]

Jesus is Lord


Bless you ....><>

 

[Gregoryp]

Our local churches here in my area: Anglican church, two gay men are pastors in one of the parishes, Uniting church, welcomes "diversity" IE , muslims are welcome, the gay community are welcome to also attend sunday church services, they welcome Hindus etc. The catholic church goes without saying, Hillsong franchise: prosperity theology, dancing, rock music, telling us we are little gods and masters of our own destiny, the independent reformed catholics, who believe this is not the end times, and Jesus will be sitting in the third temple when it is. The Baptists, same as Hillsong now .And after experiencing all of them, I choose none.

 

[Br. Bear]

Greetings again,

Our local churches here in my area: Anglican church, two gay men are pastors in one of the parishes, Uniting church, welcomes "diversity" IE , muslims are welcome, the gay community are welcome to also attend sunday church services, they welcome Hindus etc. The catholic church goes without saying, Hillsong franchise: prosperity theology, dancing, rock music, telling us we are little gods and masters of our own destiny, the independent reformed catholics, who believe this is not the end times, and Jesus will be sitting in the third temple when it is. The Baptists, same as Hillsong now .And after experiencing all of them, I choose none.

if you have a look, there are quite a number of other places one could fellowship at, in your area.

Have you ever been to a Presbyterian fellowship, for example? You certainly won't get the hillsung stuff there! Doubt there would be too much of the other things you mentioned which are off-putting. Presbyterian groups are usually fairly caring and sound in teaching. Any differences can always be discussed with members in home groups etc as they often do mid-week catch-ups.

Usually in larger areas there are also small 'groups' of believers who meet in homes.
Again, it is the Lord Who can lead you if you are willing to go.

only trying to help.


Bless you ....><>

 

[Br. Bear]

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[PloughBoy]

One of just a myriad of things you got wrong.


It sounds like you want me to give you a gold star. Why do you write these kinds of boasts? Meaningless factoids that have nothing to do with the discussion at hand. Seeking the approval of men? I have found that type of behaviour comes from deep insecurities. I'm not here to hold your hand, but you ought to know that nobody knows the exact year in which any of the New Testament texts were written. And you should know this. Shame if you don't.


Are you? ... you might want to fix that, or make up your mind.

Does it makes you feel good to condemn Calvinists? Why do you make all these posts condemning other Christians? Most people are actually too stupid for their own good.


Again, this has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation. But if you wish to waste your time posting noise (and boasts) have at it. I don't run things around here.


PloughBoy, if you don't know what you're talking about, how am I to know? But yes, indeed, please do take the time to collect your thoughts and compose a cogent reply. (One could have just done that to begin with.)

Rhema

One does wonder where you took lessons in condescension.

And the writer says of himself:
New American Standard Bible
If I have to boast, I will boast of what pertains to my weakness.

"It is because of Him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God: our righteousness, holiness, and redemption. ..Therefore, as it is written: “Let him who boasts boast in the Lord.”"

Psalm 34:2
My soul boasts in the LORD; let the oppressed hear and rejoice.
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Good News Translation
If any want to boast, they should boast that they know and understand me, because my love is constant, and I do what is just and right. These are the things that please me. I, the LORD, have spoken."

GOD'S WORD® Translation
If they want to brag, they should brag that they understand and know me. They should brag that I, the LORD, act out of [Divine] love, righteousness, and justice [judgment] on the earth. This kind of bragging pleases me, declares the LORD.

English Revised Version
but let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth, and knoweth me, that I am the LORD which exercise lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness, in the earth: for in these things I delight, saith the LORD.

Psalm 44:8
In God we boast all the day long, and praise thy name for ever. Selah.

"Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night."

the title thread:
"Am I now seeking the approval of men, or of God? Or am I striving to please men?"

"Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. EACH ONE must examine HIMSELF before he eats of the bread and drinks of the cup. For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body eats and drinks judgment on himself."

"for these words are faithful and true."

 

[Reba1]

And in all of that they mention the names of men, instead of reading the bible and asking the holy spirit for guidance. People sit there in the audience every sunday and listen to what man says, and take it home with them, without even checking to see if it is sound doctrine. And there is now enough information out there to suggest Billy Graham isnt all he seemed to be.

This is why His Grace is a Godly Grace

 

[Rhema]

In God we boast all the day long,

That's not what you were boasting about. You were not boasting about what God did, but about what you and your kids did. (And you know it.)

 

[Rhema]

And after experiencing all of them, I choose none.

You visited EVERY church in your area ?!?

It just seems like something else is going on, sir.

Rhema

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Am I now seeking the approval of men, or of God? Or am I striving to please men?

If you don't already KNOW the answer, then it's MEN whose approval you want.

Simple as that.

 

[Gregoryp]

If you don't already KNOW the answer, then it's MEN whose approval you want.

Simple as that.

what he is implying is, dont rely on some guy in a $1200 suit and tie teaching you the gospel of the Lord. The majority have an agenda or deliberatley water down scripture to get people in the building every sunday. There is a book called the Bible, read it at home and ask the Holy Spirit to guide you, its that simple. And as far as the flock edifying each other and helping, again the majority cant get out of the place quick enough, or stay back, drink the free coffee and talk about anything other than the gospels and Jesus.

 

[PloughBoy]

If you don't already KNOW the answer, then it's MEN whose approval you want.

Simple as that.

I thank GOD, that Apostle Paul of Jesus Christ is not following your lead. and you and their words are entirely different, like darkness is to Light "Post Tenebras Lux" I think i prefer them over the path you take. "Iesous Kyrios" I chose The narrow Path. I rather serve "The Creator" than the created creature" forever and ever more.

Contemporary English Version
I am not trying to please people. I want to please God. Do you think I am trying to please people? If I were doing that, I would not be a servant of Christ.

Good News Translation
Does this sound as if I am trying to win human approval? No indeed! What I want is God's approval! Am I trying to be popular with people? If I were still trying to do so, I would not be a servant of Christ.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Am I saying this now to win the approval of people or God? Am I trying to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be Christ's servant.

International Standard Version
Am I now trying to win the approval of people or of God? Or am I trying to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be the Messiah's servant.

And that is the "Truth' and HE is "immutable"

PS... you are free to believe whatsoever you please. So have you spoken so have you believe. I have no argument in what you believe.
"Choose you this day the God in whom you please" and serve him as you please.

For there are many gods. That is why "The True GOD" has declared:

(Exodus 34:14)BSB
Berean Study Bible
For you must not worship any other god, for the LORD, whose Name is Jealous, is a jealous God.

S'il Vous plait

 

[Hekuran]

I am tired now, i will get to it. it is not that simple to address. But a lot of people think "The Gospel According to Jesus Christ " is a simple task. and can be explain in simple terms. And to try to do so, would do "The Gospel According to JESUS CHRIST" a great injustice and you will be held accountable, be sure of that!

Have you got any further with providing a description of the gospe?

 

[PloughBoy]

I did, in "layman" terms! I had to think, to not confuse many. And the "Simplicity' of Christ came to mind. That answer i gave, i could defend among the round table pertaining to "Theologians and Critical Scholars" for in which i have done before, beyond my amazement and imagination and have left them "quiet". And they could only shake their heads.

I put it in "layman terms" And that was "Hot off of The Wire" and left me dumbfounded. For even a child could understand it.

 

[Hekuran]

I did, in "layman" terms! I had to think, to not confuse many. And the "Simplicity' of Christ came to mind. That answer i gave, i could defend among the round table pertaining to "Theologians and Critical Scholars" for in which i have done before, beyond my amazement and imagination and have left them "quiet". And they could only shake their heads.

I put it in "layman terms" And that was "Hot off of The Wire" and left me dumbfounded. For even a child could understand it.

I missed it. Which post was that?

 

[Gregoryp]

I missed it. Which post was that?

Precisely

 

[PloughBoy]

I missed it. Which post was that?

Post #22

 

[Hekuran]

Mark describes how Jesus proclaimed the good news in Mark Chapter 1.

Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God. “The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!”

So, any formulation of the gospel according to Jesus would need to have the coming of the kingdom of God at the heart of the message.