America is in the Bible

Eric E Stahl · Sep 28, 2012

Brad Huber said:
Not sure what map you are using, but its wrong. First of all Moscow is not russia, although it is currently the capital of Russia. Second, Moscow is closer to being directly North of Tehran, Iran than Isreal. Do you think that Isreal and Tehran are right beside each other?

Brad Huber · Sep 28, 2012

I did look at a map just to make sure, thats why I said Tehran, Iran. And yes, iran is east of Isreal, that at least is true. Why dont you post a link to the map you are using.

Eric E Stahl · Sep 28, 2012

globe

Brad Huber said:
I did look at a map just to make sure, thats why I said Tehran, Iran. And yes, iran is east of Isreal, that at least is true. Why dont you post a link to the map you are using.

Look at any globe. Moscow is north of Jerusalem. Many other countries are also north of Jerusalem. It is the 1250000 Jews that have returned to Israel from Russia that tells us that Russia is the country in the north from Zechariah 2:6-7.

Verse 7 tells us that Zion or the Jews are in the daughter of Babylon and they should escape also.

So where are the Jews in the world now that the Russian Jews are going home?

There are about 6,000,000 Jews in Israel and another 6,000,000 Jews in America. There are only 3,000,000 Jews spread around the rest of the world.

America is the daughter of Babylon because the people of Zion are here.

El Hombre viejo · Oct 23, 2012

Brad Huber said:
Not sure what map you are using, but its wrong. First of all Moscow is not russia, although it is currently the capital of Russia. Second, Moscow is closer to being directly North of Tehran, Iran than Isreal. Do you think that Isreal and Tehran are right beside each other?

Ah You're both wrong! Moscow is in Idaho. Oops wrong Moscow

Eric E Stahl · Jan 1, 2013

jiggyfly · Jan 1, 2013

Eric E Stahl said:
America will be on the dark side of the earth when the permanent solar eclipse forms over Israel.

America is the kingdom of antichrist, which is political Babylon.

So why do you reside in America? Do you like working for the antichrist?

Acebopata · Jan 1, 2013

There are people that insist that America is Mystery Babylon. I've tried to nail this theory to the floor and prove it to myself and I came to the conclusion that although there are some behavior similarities between America and what the Bible calls mystery Babylon, they is not enough proof for me to convulsively confirm that America is mystery Babylon.

Therefore I have also concluded that those who nearly swear that America is mystery Babylon either see the scriptures on the subject in a different light, are fantisising for america to be judged and believe that the judgement of mystery Babylon is a fitting punishment for the nation, or they are desperate for some biblical proof that america isn't going to fall anytime soon and anti-climatically, and they fell that mystery Babylon provides this proof, especially when you see where the destruction of mystery Babylon occurs in relationship to armagedden, and the fact that America would not be part of the battle if this was the case.

Eric E Stahl · Jan 1, 2013

Acebopata said:
There are people that insist that America is Mystery Babylon. I've tried to nail this theory to the floor and prove it to myself and I came to the conclusion that although there are some behavior similarities between America and what the Bible calls mystery Babylon, they is not enough proof for me to convulsively confirm that America is mystery Babylon.

Therefore I have also concluded that those who nearly swear that America is mystery Babylon either see the scriptures on the subject in a different light, are fantisising for america to be judged and believe that the judgement of mystery Babylon is a fitting punishment for the nation, or they are desperate for some biblical proof that america isn't going to fall anytime soon and anti-climatically, and they fell that mystery Babylon provides this proof, especially when you see where the destruction of mystery Babylon occurs in relationship to armagedden, and the fact that America would not be part of the battle if this was the case.

America is political Babylon not mystery Babylon. Mystery Babylon is the religion which rides political Babylon and tells the kings of the earth what to do. God will cause the 10 kings who control the earth at the middle of the tribulation to destroy the harlot church and give their power to the antichrist Revelation 17:12-18. Political Babylon will not be destroyed till the 7th vial judgment at the end of the tribulation Revelation 16:19.

Eric E Stahl · Jan 29, 2013

jiggyfly said:
So why do you reside in America? Do you like working for the antichrist?

God will choose the antichrist after the church and the Holy Spirit are taken out of the way at the time of the rapture 2 Thessalonians 2:8-12. We may see people that could be the antichrist but we will never know for sure.

james1523 · Feb 23, 2013

Dan 7:23 "Thus he said: 'As for the fourth beast, there shall be a fourth kingdom on earth, which shall be different from all the kingdoms, and it shall devour the whole earth, and trample it down, and break it to pieces.

The 4th beast.. the Roman Empire.. it includes America and all western democracies today that are styled in the form of the ancient Roman Empire. Religious babylon.. Catholic Rome.. and protestant denominations, all part of the Roman system including democracy and all these kinds of things. I would say America is major part of political Babylon, the many denominations it holds and propagates is part of religious Babylon.. but it also includes all of the western style democracies in the world especially in Europe.

Eric E Stahl · Feb 23, 2013

james1523 said:
Dan 7:23 "Thus he said: 'As for the fourth beast, there shall be a fourth kingdom on earth, which shall be different from all the kingdoms, and it shall devour the whole earth, and trample it down, and break it to pieces.

The 4th beast.. the Roman Empire.. it includes America and all western democracies today that are styled in the form of the ancient Roman Empire. Religious babylon.. Catholic Rome.. and protestant denominations, all part of the Roman system including democracy and all these kinds of things. I would say America is major part of political Babylon, the many denominations it holds and propagates is part of religious Babylon.. but it also includes all of the western style democracies in the world especially in Europe.

2 Thessalonians 2:6-12
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth (((Holy Spirit because John 16:7-8))) will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

After the rapture everyone that heard the truth of the gospel and rejected Jesus will be caused by God to believe the lie of antichrist. All of the former "Christian nations" will follow the antichrist. All of the former Christian denominations will form one ecumenical church called Mystery Babylon mother of harlots which will be centered in Rome. Where ever Babylon goes so will the harlot church, see Revelation 13:1.

The antichrist will do the following:
come to power in the strongest nation before the end time wars start. Daniel 11:39
come from the same linage as the Roman Empire. Daniel 9:26-27

fhnl13f · Feb 25, 2013

There will be a man of sin or wicked ruler rise up and there will also be a false prophet. I agree that the false prophet will come from the middle east because the statue of Daniel shows Rome split in two. The western leg having 5 kingdoms (predominately christian today) and the eastern leg having 5 kingdoms (mostly muslim today). Daniel 10:5-6 He sees a vision of the false prophet while he is sitting on the river outside of babylon. The false prophet appears to come out of Persia which is modern day Iran.

Eric E Stahl · Feb 27, 2013

fhnl13f said:
There will be a man of sin or wicked ruler rise up and there will also be a false prophet. I agree that the false prophet will come from the middle east because the statue of Daniel shows Rome split in two. The western leg having 5 kingdoms (predominately christian today) and the eastern leg having 5 kingdoms (mostly muslim today). Daniel 10:5-6 He sees a vision of the false prophet while he is sitting on the river outside of babylon. The false prophet appears to come out of Persia which is modern day Iran.

fhnl13f · Feb 27, 2013

Eric E Stahl said:
7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, (((a colony which will be called Babylon))) before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things (((666))).

The wicked ruler and false prophet are both antichrist. The wicked ruler/man of sin whatever you want to call him, i agree will come out of the west. I believe He will come out of the UK being the 10 horns a picture of the 10 houses of England and the little horn is probably a king out of the house of Windsor. It's also possible that America could be seen as an extension of the royal houses of England being that all but 1 of our presidents can trace their lineage back to the house of Plantagenet. And these 10 horns came out of the 4th beast which was the Roman Empire.

But the false prophet will come out of the middle east. The wicked ruler/false messiah will be slain and resurrected by the false prophet at the 5th seal when he will call down fire from heaven seen as the falling star with the key to the bottomless pit. Abbadon or the beast from the bottomless pit that kills the two witnesses will possess this false messiah and he will raise up an army and march on Jerusalem. The post that you quoted me on was about the false prophet not the false messiah. They are both dangerous and both called antichrist according to the definition of antichrist.

Eric E Stahl · Feb 27, 2013

fhnl13f said:
The wicked ruler and false prophet are both antichrist. The wicked ruler/man of sin whatever you want to call him, i agree will come out of the west. I believe He will come out of the UK being the 10 horns a picture of the 10 houses of England and the little horn is probably a king out of the house of Windsor. It's also possible that America could be seen as an extension of the royal houses of England being that all but 1 of our presidents can trace their lineage back to the house of Plantagenet. And these 10 horns came out of the 4th beast which was the Roman Empire.

But the false prophet will come out of the middle east. The wicked ruler/false messiah will be slain and resurrected by the false prophet at the 5th seal when he will call down fire from heaven seen as the falling star with the key to the bottomless pit. Abbadon or the beast from the bottomless pit that kills the two witnesses will possess this false messiah and he will raise up an army and march on Jerusalem. The post that you quoted me on was about the false prophet not the false messiah. They are both dangerous and both called antichrist according to the definition of antichrist.

When the Russian alliance comes against Israel, America will fight them.

Ezekiel 38:13
13 Sheba, and Dedan (Two Arab tribes from oil rich Arabia), and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions (((colonies of western Euorpe))) thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil?

fhnl13f · Feb 27, 2013

I'm sorry Eric but I have no idea what you're saying. You're going to have to explain instead of quoting one scripture and giving a one line interpretation of it. How did you come to these conclusions, are you agreeing with me or disagreeing. I don't know because I have no idea what you're talking about. Here is a thread that I posted of how I understand everything right now. Check it out and let me know what you think

talkjesus.com/evidence-bible-prophecy/44492-revelatons-different-perspective.html#.US4LHlfeD_0

Eric E Stahl · Feb 27, 2013

fhnl13f said:
I'm sorry Eric but I have no idea what you're saying. You're going to have to explain instead of quoting one scripture and giving a one line interpretation of it. How did you come to these conclusions, are you agreeing with me or disagreeing. I don't know because I have no idea what you're talking about. Here is a thread that I posted of how I understand everything right now. Check it out and let me know what you think

talkjesus.com/evidence-bible-prophecy/44492-revelatons-different-perspective.html#.US4LHlfeD_0

fhnl13f,

I believe the antichrist will come from western linage but not from within the ten kingdoms. He will come from the colony that comes out of the west. I believe he will be American because he comes from the most strong holds at the end time wars Daniel 11:39. When the attack from the north comes, God will raise a great nation from the other side of the earth see Jeremiah 6:22. Only America is strong enough to fight Russia and her alliance.

Daniel 11:39-40
39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.
40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

Jeremiah 6:22
22 Thus saith the LORD, Behold, a people cometh from the north country, and a great nation shall be raised from the sides of the earth.
23 They shall lay hold on bow and spear; they are cruel, and have no mercy; their voice roareth like the sea; and they ride upon horses, set in array as men for war against thee, O daughter of Zion.

The false prophet will not come from America but I don't know where he will come from.

fhnl13f · Feb 27, 2013

I agree that America is the strongest country right now, but that can change in an instant. The only advantage that we have at the moment is technology, but if China shoots down our satellites which they proved they had the ability to do in 2008 or if N Korea detonates one nuke 50 miles above the deck, or if the false messiah that comes is made leader of the UN which I almost know without a doubt he will be, and is given ultimate control (which is what our politicians our pushing us to) then that all changes. Without the technology Russia and China are the super powers. I'm not saying that you're wrong but if you're basing everything on who is the strongest right now, I'm just saying that it can change at a moments notice. It is possible though, Like I said in my other post all of our presidents can trace their lineage back to the Royal House of Plantagenet except for McKinley. It's strange that even Obama is related to them all because he's black. One thing I found researching everything was the order of the garter which is a very wicked organization out of England. It was established as witchcraft and it's the most influential group of people in the world right now. Their 666 birthday is coming up very soon too, if you check out that other link I posted you'll see how important that date is.

Eric E Stahl · Feb 27, 2013

fhnl13f said:
I agree that America is the strongest country right now, but that can change in an instant. The only advantage that we have at the moment is technology, but if China shoots down our satellites which they proved they had the ability to do in 2008 or if N Korea detonates one nuke 50 miles above the deck, or if the false messiah that comes is made leader of the UN which I almost know without a doubt he will be, and is given ultimate control (which is what our politicians our pushing us to) then that all changes. Without the technology Russia and China are the super powers. I'm not saying that you're wrong but if you're basing everything on who is the strongest right now, I'm just saying that it can change at a moments notice. It is possible though, Like I said in my other post all of our presidents can trace their lineage back to the Royal House of Plantagenet except for McKinley. It's strange that even Obama is related to them all because he's black. One thing I found researching everything was the order of the garter which is a very wicked organization out of England. It was established as witchcraft and it's the most influential group of people in the world right now. Their 666 birthday is coming up very soon too, if you check out that other link I posted you'll see how important that date is.

Revelation 16:10 KJV
10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,

When the darkness is on the kingdom of antichrist before Armageddon it will also be on Israel. Look at post #19. I believe there will be a permanent

solar eclipse over Israel and darkness on America.

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