Anthropomorphically speaking, could this be also 1 of “The Signs & Wonders” of “The Coming of “The MORNING STAR”

[Garee]

The video Mentions, This is The “Brightest Star” They have ever seen, Although they claim The Star is Dead and does not exists any more but The “Light” has just now appeared and is able to be seen by a “Telescope”. And it will take many Light years Traveling at Light Speed before That Light reach The Earth! There they gave it a name “Earendel” meaning “The Morning Star” in English! Just like my name is this___________! But the meaning of my name in “Greek” is _______________!

And just because, science is a must for grade school kids and also a “Elective” for “High Schoolers” in The “USA” to learn about The Stars! And GOD told “Abraham” look up, can you count The Stars in The Sky, Now here Comes The “Magi” beholding “The Star” which is called “Polaris”!

Now before the others book of The Bible was created, it was recorded in a Book call “JoB” and “GOD” spoke about “Orion” he spoke about “Mazzzaroth” and didn’t stop there He also mention “Archurus and “Pleiades”, JOB, Chapter 38!

And I can, go on all night talking about “The Created Universe created by GOD, The Planets called Stars through out The Holy Book of GOD!
Now why and how can I do That?

“Because Greater is HE that is in Me than he that is in the world”

For I know you do not understand my language But, “I am” is going to speak any how!

New American Standard Bible
“And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His Purpose “

Whether it is a science class in pre-school or elementary or high school! “ALL THINGS”

Whether it is “Polaris” “Archurus” or “Peiades” and you might as well throw “Earendel” which is more than “1 Million times “Brighter than The Sun” and 50 Times Larger than The “S U N”! And That Light has Not reach the Earth But That LIGHT is on Its “WAY”! And who knows if That Light is Traveling more Faster than “Light Speed”. Now, but it might get a command to travel at “GOD SPEED”!

1 day with GOD can be as if it was a “1000 years” and “1000 years” can be like. ONE Day! It can be a big difference between “Light Speed” and GOD SPEED!

NOW, the foundation of The Title text has been laid for:

“The Bright Morning Star”

New American Standard Bible
“I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you of these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star.”

NASB 1977
“I see him, but not now; I behold him, but not near; A star shall come forth from Jacob, And a scepter shall rise from Israel, And shall crush through the forehead of Moab, And tear down all the sons of Sheth.”


2 Peter 1:19
We also have the word of the prophets as confirmed beyond doubt. And you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.”

New American Standard Bible
“Then Herod secretly called for the magi and determined from them the exact time the star appeared.”

Everybody running around here fighting about “Tongues”

Holman Christian Standard Bible
“Now learn this parable from the fig tree: As soon as its branch becomes tender and sprouts leaves, you know that summer is near.
There are many kinds of;
“signs and wonders” concerning the “Biblical Text”…

“The Bright and Morning Star”

“Biblical Hermeneutics”. It can be a art or a pain in the neck! Especially when you deal with different kinds of “Translations” or Paraphrases of The “Biblical copied Text of “The Holy Scriptures”. The Original Copied Maniscripts.

Just keep it plain and simple. Then we may not stray to far off the Path.

Secular science naming bright spots have nothing to do with Christianity . It is not prophecy being fulfilled if that what you think

That dessin is for stargazers. The gospels writen in the Bible not the stars. No signs were given .

 

[GodB4Us]

I can show you many people who believe in Jesus and don't obey. That is because of people like you.

Funny how I would tell such believers that unless they repent by looking to the author & finisher of our faith to help them lay aside every weight & sin daily, they are at risk of being left behind at the rapture event when the Bridegroom comes, but I have not come across such believers yet.

Discipleship is about bearing fruit that our jot may be full in going on to perfection to be that vessel unto honor in His House to live in the City of God in Heaven..

Running that race aka discipleship can not be about obtaining the Holy Ghost nor eternal life les you deny Jesus Christ as our Savior.

Do you not have the Holy Ghost in you? Then you are saved. If you say not saved yet, then what good is the Holy Ghost being in you if you will not believe Jesus Christ has saved you since you had believed in Him when a child?

To think you have to repent for all sins and the Jesus will agree to save you puts the emphasis on salvation on you. And yet you say you are still repenting of all sins daily ad so when do you get saved and the holy Ghost when you still have to continue to repent from all sins every day?

Salvation is separate from discipleship because it is how we walk with Him in what we build on that foundation that shall be judged and heresy is a work of the flesh. Any works of iniquity on that foundation is going be burned off but the foundation will remain as that seal of adoption does too because Jesus Christ is faithful for He still abides in those left behind to finish His work in them to His glory.

So I shall warn you; and all others that apply James words of "faith without works being dead" to be about faith in Jesus Christ for salvation for it is without works unless you wind up boasting in Heaven and you will not be able to do that.

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

We are His workmanship; not our workmanship, it is on Him as our Good Shepherd that we rely on for following Him as saved believers cause in light of God, all that we are is just sheep relying on the Good Shepherd to show us the way.

 

[PloughBoy]

Secular science naming bright spots have nothing to do with Christianity . It is not prophecy being fulfilled if that what you think

That dessin is for stargazers. The gospels writen in the Bible not the stars. No signs were given .

I don’t have nothing to do with Christianity too! And I sure am not a Christian! Now what?

 

[God's Truth]

Funny how I would tell such believers that unless they repent by looking to the author & finisher of our faith to help them lay aside every weight & sin daily, they are at risk of being left behind at the rapture event when the Bridegroom comes, but I have not come across such believers yet.

No such thing as faith alone it is dead.

Discipleship is about bearing fruit that our jot may be full in going on to perfection to be that vessel unto honor in His House to live in the City of God in Heaven..

The Father and Jesus aren't going to move in someone's heart and who hasn't confessed and repented of their sins.

Running that race aka discipleship can not be about obtaining the Holy Ghost nor eternal life les you deny Jesus Christ as our Savior.

You run the race after you repent and are saved. You receive the Holy Spirit after you repent. You can't remember the beliefs of the one you are debating, yet you want to debate and be a teacher?

Do you not have the Holy Ghost in you? Then you are saved.

I know I am saved. I believed in God and Jesus my whole life and wasn't saved until I started to obey.

If you say not saved yet, then what good is the Holy Ghost being in you if you will not believe Jesus Christ has saved you since you had believed in Him when a child?

A person has to repent of their sins to get saved and receive the Holy Spirit.

To think you have to repent for all sins and the Jesus will agree to save you puts the emphasis on salvation on you.

You keep saying that but that is not in the Bible.
Show in the Bible where it says that.
Don't try to tell me anything that isn't in the Bible.

And yet you say you are still repenting of all sins daily

I never said that.
You should pay better attention when you debate.

ad so when do you get saved and the holy Ghost when you still have to continue to repent from all sins every day?

When a person wants to get saved, they do what Jesus says and repent of their sins, and then they have faith that Jesus' shed blood on the cross washed them. Jesus purifies them and makes them perfect and holy, and then we live up to that.

Salvation is separate from discipleship

No such thing.
You don't speak according to the scriptures.

 

[GodB4Us]

No such thing as faith alone it is dead.

The Father and Jesus aren't going to move in someone's heart and who hasn't confessed and repented of their sins.


You run the race after you repent and are saved. You receive the Holy Spirit after you repent. You can't remember the beliefs of the one you are debating, yet you want to debate and be a teacher?

I know I am saved. I believed in God and Jesus my whole life and wasn't saved until I started to obey.

A person has to repent of their sins to get saved and receive the Holy Spirit.

You keep saying that but that is not in the Bible.
Show in the Bible where it says that.
Don't try to tell me anything that isn't in the Bible.

I never said that.
You should pay better attention when you debate.

When a person wants to get saved, they do what Jesus says and repent of their sins, and then they have faith that Jesus' shed blood on the cross washed them. Jesus purifies them and makes them perfect and holy, and then we live up to that.

No such thing.
You don't speak according to the scriptures.

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John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

John 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

John 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

You just have a problem applying His words elsewhere about how we are to live that reconciled relationship with God thru Jesus Christ also known as discipleship also known as running that race which is why it is separate from salvation.

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That is not scripture, and it goes against God's Word.

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.​

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John 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.​

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John 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.​

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You just have a problem applying His words elsewhere about how we are to live that reconciled relationship with God thru Jesus Christ also known as discipleship also known as running that race which is why it is separate from salvation.​

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Since the born again of the Spirit moment was to happen after His ascension for when anyone believes in him are saved, even for His remaining disciples on the day of Pentecost and for every other believer afterwards, the scripture I had posted was not to that effect, but towards the fact that Jesus held no confidence in those who believe because He knew what was in them; their sinful nature, because as He pointed out elsewhere, no matter how much the spirit is willing the flesh is weak, and therefore what is impossible with man to repent from all sins, is possible with God by believing in Him on how we are saved because He came to destroy the works of the devil in our lives so we can follow Him.​

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Matthew 26:11Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.​

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Matthew 19:25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? 26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.​

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1 John 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.... 8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.​

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2 Timothy 4:18 And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.​

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That is why it is written that the just shall live by faith in Jesus Christ that He will be their Good Shepherd to keep their eyes on Him to help them discern iniquities as well as depart from them daily; a child can do that when all they can do is trust the Lord.​

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Do consider your presentation of the gospel to little children. Are you going to tell them what sins are by explaining the birds and the bees to them and then tell them that sex before marriage is a sin so they can know to repent of future fornication & masturbation & adultery thru life? If they did not do that for you when you were a child, why do you think you have to tell sinners to repent from all sins now before coming to & believing in Jesus Christ for salvation when they are salves to sin and to death and they know it?​

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What are you going to tell a sin addict when he walks away from your call to repent from all sins when he or she or they know they cannot do it? You can see that they are in torment wanting God to save them. Are you finally going to wake up that Jesus will destroy the works of the devil in their lives, that He will set them free and not just give them eternal life for all those that believed in Him?​

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You want to know what works of God you are to do? Here it is again, because only God can do the works of God in us and that includes our living this life of repentance daily by believing in Him that He will help us to follow Him.​

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John 6:28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.​

They just need to believe in Him that Jesus Christ can set them free from sins.

John 8:30 As he spake these words, many believed on him. 31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; 32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free? 34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. 36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

 

[PloughBoy]

God’s truth & GodB4Us.

The Title of This “Thread” is:

“Anthropomorphically speaking, could this be also 1 of “The Signs & Wonders” of “The Coming of “The MORNING STAR”​

Stop High Jacking it!!!!!

 

[Garee]

I don’t have nothing to do with Christianity too! And I sure am not a Christian! Now what?

Are you saying you are not a Christian? If so now would be the time to beleive the living abiding word as long as today is still today under the Sun . .

 

[GodB4Us]

Are you saying you are not a Christian? If so now would be the time to beleive the living abiding word as long as today is still today under the Sun . .

He was being sarcastic because of what you had said about secular science having nothing to do with Christianity.

 

[GodB4Us]

I don’t do speculations, or eisegesis I am considered a Reformed Theologian, Field of Study; “Theology Proper”.
Concerning Hermeneutics, “Historical Grammatical Method” I am.

Hey, that says it all, and leaves not a rock unturned. I am a open book! Plus I accept”The Chicago Statement of “Biblical Inerrancy”.

Now since you are a biblical student, need I to say anymore?

I am solid and a open book.

“For without Works Faith is Dead”

“HE purges us to bear much Fruit”! “much Fruit”!

Study to show yourself approved Unto GOD” …ff. [and not a man! ]

Post #10 was yours, brother. That was where it had started. And you added to it in your post #23 also.

God’s truth & GodB4Us.

The Title of This “Thread” is:

“Anthropomorphically speaking, could this be also 1 of “The Signs & Wonders” of “The Coming of “The MORNING STAR”​

Stop High Jacking it!!!!!

I can agree to go back on topic since you "seem" to be heading back to that direction now.

 

[Garee]

He was being sarcastic because of what you had said about secular science having nothing to do with Christianity.

I am offering what cannot be revealed looking through a telescope of microscope . We walk by faith not by empirical science.


Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

 

[GodB4Us]

I am offering what cannot be revealed looking through a telescope of microscope . We walk by faith not by empirical science.


Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

Seeing how no one will know the day nor the hour but can ascertain that it is near and at the door, which the point of it is to be ready to go all the time by His grace & by His help, then there is certainly no harm in it.

Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. 32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

 

[Garee]

Seeing how no one will know the day nor the hour but can ascertain that it is near and at the door, which the point of it is to be ready to go all the time by His grace & by His help, then there is certainly no harm in it.

Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. 32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Thanks for the reply Good points.

No sign was given the last the sign ofJonas wasfulfled with the Son of Man jesus

Yes no law against speculating, wondering using ones own fleshly imaginations, marveling . Its simply not believing (the end of faith the salvation of our new soul ).

Its why Jesus informed the lying wonderer sign seeker Nicodenmus .When Jesus informed him a person must be born again from above as God gives them new ears to hear his understanding . The greatest possible of all miracles . Jesus lovingly commanded the sign seeker Nicodenmus . . . marvel not .Again marveling wondering using ones fleshly imagination is not believing its marveling wonder using ones own fleshly imagination . How could we not marvel? Turn that to belief by trusting the voice as it is written . .

Faith seems to be one of those words that can continue to grow in understanding all the days of our lives. The moment we think we beleive enough to see him face to face in knowlgge we fall from the light of his word . . .. . down a dark path. He he calls us back giving us power to repent and return to the light on his path (gospel)

In Philippians 1:6 below we are informed of our very confidence according to the measure of faith .His faithfulness that works in us . Christ in us is the storeroom of faith, the hidden glory of God calls little faith in a living hope that we decrease as he increases .

If he has begun the good teaching work in us he promises not to give upon us till the end .he past the test for us .its open book . I am a slow learner getting slower with age

Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:


He warns us of the wonderers who seek after signs and not prophecy the living word of God . They treated the Son of Man Jesus as if he was a circus seal. Do a trick work a miracle when we see we will beleive .Again no faith coming as it is written . Those who compare themselves to themselves venerating each other flesh as if they were in the place of the unseen Father. Jesus called those fathers a brood of vipers the poison of a false gospel false apostles .

The law of faith . . ."to the law" the commandment, not seen and to its "testimony, seen" .as one testimony or word (let there be) if mankind speak s not acording to that word then there is no light ofthe gospel (Isaiah 8:20)

To the law... below

John 4:48 Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.

To the testimony

John 6:30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?

 

[GodB4Us]

Yes no law against speculating, wondering using ones own fleshly imaginations, marveling . Its simply not believing (the end of faith the salvation of our new soul ).

There is no law against seeing the signs and believing He is at the door for why we should be always ready to go as found abiding in Him but His words did say that no one will know the day nor the hour for why we should always be ready.

One could say that a woman in travail of birth pangs as these things will increase... earthquakes and the likes... one can see how it is at the door, but still, we are always to be ready as fund abiding in Him and willing to leave when He comes.

 

[PloughBoy]

American Standard Version
Ye men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God unto you by mighty works and wonders and signs which GOD did by him in the midst of you, even as ye yourselves know;

By “Signs & Wonders”. GOD did by HIM!


By “Signs & WONDERs”

The Devil and all of his demons! Do not want to see all “The SIGNS and WONDERS” that Jesus did! But The Religious Rulers wanted to Contribute The SIGNS & WONDERS that Jesus did was done by a man that is “Demons Possess” they claim that “Jesus did his miracles being possessed by Demons!

But the Bible says, it was “GOD” performing The “Signs and Wonders” by JESUS who is “The LORD of GLORY”!

The Devil is a Liar! Jesus performed MIRACLES and “SIGNS and WONDERS”!

John 3:2
He came to Jesus at night and said, "Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs You are doing if God were not with him."

John 4:48
Jesus said to him, "Unless you people see signs and wonders, you will never believe."

Acts 2:19
I will show wonders in the heavens above and signs on the earth below, blood and fire and billows of smoke.

Acts 2:43
A sense of awe came over everyone, and the apostles performed many wonders and signs.

Acts 3:6
But Peter said, "Silver or gold I do not have, but what I have I give you: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, get up and walk!"

“SIGNS & WONDERS”

Acts 4:10
then let this be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel: It is by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified but whom God raised from the dead, that this man stands before you healed.

“SHOWING, “SIGNS & WONDERS”


Acts 10:38
how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with POWER and how Jesus went around doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, because God was with Him.

JESUS was:
“SHOWING, “SIGNS & WONDERS”!


τέρατα are wonders or portents, such as are spoken of by the Prophet Joel, "wonders in heaven above," the darkening of the sun, the discoloration or the moon, or any ether wonder considered only with reference to its portentous character;

σημεῖα are signs, not necessarily miraculous, but things which are proofs, either by their miraculous character or from the time or mode of their occurrence, of the truth of the things spoken. "Miracles, wonders, and signs"

And the final Nail I will put in this “coffin”! Because if you don’t believe this; “SIGNS & WONDERS”, Neither will you believe one That has “ROSE UP” from The Grave!

NASB 1977
The signs of a true apostle were performed among you with all perseverance, by signs and wonders and miracles.”

My grand daddy, use to say; “You can put that in your pipe and Smoke it”!

If that ain’t enough, I got a whole lot, you can smoke.

 

[GodB4Us]

Luke 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

29 And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees; 30 When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand.

31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand. 32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled. 33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. 35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. 36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

 

[PloughBoy]

Thanks for the reply Good points.

No sign was given the last the sign ofJonas wasfulfled with the Son of Man jesus

Yes no law against speculating, wondering using ones own fleshly imaginations, marveling . Its simply not believing (the end of faith the salvation of our new soul ).

Its why Jesus informed the lying wonderer sign seeker Nicodenmus .When Jesus informed him a person must be born again from above as God gives them new ears to hear his understanding . The greatest possible of all miracles . Jesus lovingly commanded the sign seeker Nicodenmus . . . marvel not .Again marveling wondering using ones fleshly imagination is not believing its marveling wonder using ones own fleshly imagination . How could we not marvel? Turn that to belief by trusting the voice as it is written . .

Faith seems to be one of those words that can continue to grow in understanding all the days of our lives. The moment we think we beleive enough to see him face to face in knowlgge we fall from the light of his word . . .. . down a dark path. He he calls us back giving us power to repent and return to the light on his path (gospel)

In Philippians 1:6 below we are informed of our very confidence according to the measure of faith .His faithfulness that works in us . Christ in us is the storeroom of faith, the hidden glory of God calls little faith in a living hope that we decrease as he increases .

If he has begun the good teaching work in us he promises not to give upon us till the end .he past the test for us .its open book . I am a slow learner getting slower with age

Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:


He warns us of the wonderers who seek after signs and not prophecy the living word of God . They treated the Son of Man Jesus as if he was a circus seal. Do a trick work a miracle when we see we will beleive .Again no faith coming as it is written . Those who compare themselves to themselves venerating each other flesh as if they were in the place of the unseen Father. Jesus called those fathers a brood of vipers the poison of a false gospel false apostles .

The law of faith . . ."to the law" the commandment, not seen and to its "testimony, seen" .as one testimony or word (let there be) if mankind speak s not acording to that word then there is no light ofthe gospel (Isaiah 8:20)

To the law... below

John 4:48 Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.

To the testimony

John 6:30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?

“Garee “quote:
“Yes no law against speculating, wondering using ones own fleshly imaginations, marveling . Its simply not believing (the end of faith the salvation of our new soul ).”

NASB 1977
nor to pay attention to myths and endless genealogies, which give rise to mere speculation rather than furthering the administration of God which is by faith.

New American Standard Bible
“But refuse foolish and ignorant speculations, knowing that they produce quarrels.”

 

[Alley Oop]

"they shall say lo here and lo there, believe them not nor follow them" - luke 17:23

you need to pick up on this truth @PloughBoy - then you wont post such drivel.

 

[Garee]

“Garee “quote:
“Yes no law against speculating, wondering using ones own fleshly imaginations, marveling . Its simply not believing (the end of faith the salvation of our new soul ).”

NASB 1977
nor to pay attention to myths and endless genealogies, which give rise to mere speculation rather than furthering the administration of God which is by faith.

New American Standard Bible
“But refuse foolish and ignorant speculations, knowing that they produce quarrels.”

Amen.

 

[Garee]

"they shall say lo here and lo there, believe them not nor follow them" - luke 17:23

you need to pick up on this truth @PloughBoy - then you wont post such drivel.

Exactly, The Holy Spirit warned us before the close of the book of Revelation and its warning not to use ones imagination as a source of faith by adding to the perfect with lying wonders

 

[Garee]

There is no law against seeing the signs and believing He is at the door for why we should be always ready to go as found abiding in Him but His words did say that no one will know the day nor the hour for why we should always be ready.

One could say that a woman in travail of birth pangs as these things will increase... earthquakes and the likes... one can see how it is at the door, but still, we are always to be ready as fund abiding in Him and willing to leave when He comes.

It would seem you are promoting sign to wonders after rather than Prophecy .Big difference.

Again Jesus said it an "evil generation" that seeks after lying wonders. No sign to seek after were given. We walk by faith the unseen eternal not my sight that seen the temporal