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Are we Gentiles

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ἔθνος
ethnos
eth'-nos
Probably from G1486; a race (as of the same habit), that is, a tribe; specifically a foreign (non-Jewish) one (usually by implication pagan): - Gentile, heathen, nation, people.
Total KJV occurrences: 164

As a Christians are we Jew or Gentile ? Scriptures to follow :
 
1Pe 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
1Pe 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
1Pe 2:10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.
 
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.


One in Christ
Eph 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Eph 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Eph 2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
Eph 2:17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
Eph 2:21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
Eph 2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
 
Everyone not a Jew is a gentile.
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
 
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
"Therefore remember that formerly you who are Gentiles in the flesh and called uncircumcised by the so-called circumcision (that done in the body by human hands)— remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ. For He Himself is our peace, who has made the two one and has torn down the dividing wall of hostility by abolishing in His flesh the law of commandments and decrees. He did this to create in Himself one new man out of the two, thus making peace and reconciling both of them to God in one body through the cross, by which He extinguished their hostility.

"He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. For through Him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.

"Therefore you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of God’s household, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus Himself as the cornerstone." Ephesians 2:11-20.
 
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

There are contexts that say we can be Jews "spiritually". But there are other contexts, such as Paul is the apostle to the Gentiles, and Peter is the Apostle to the Jews.
So if we say we are all Jews, then none of Paul's letters to the Gentiles apply to us. In which case, there is no such such thing as a Gentile believer.

Everything must be taken in context.

Gal_2:7 But on the contrary, when they saw that the gospel for the uncircumcised had been committed to me, as the gospel for the circumcised was to Peter
Gal_2:8 (for He who worked effectively in Peter for the apostleship to the circumcised also worked effectively in me toward the Gentiles),
Gal_2:9 and when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that had been given to me, they gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we should go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised.

Rom_11:13; For I speak to you Gentiles; inasmuch as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry,
1Tim 2:7; for which I was appointed a preacher and an apostle—I am speaking the truth in Christ and not lying—a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth.
2Tim 1:11; to which I was appointed a preacher, an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles.
 
Everyone who follow Jesus is a Hebrew. One who crosses over (what the word hebrew literally means) from death to life. From sin to salvation.
We the wild branch become grafted into the olive tree becoming one. Like Ruth was, whose lineage gives us our Messiah.

Being a physical Jew means nothing ( Israel is full of secular Jews). Being a spiritual Hebrew, Gods people, is everything.
 
Gentiles are heathens . Christians are not heathens . IMO Once the gentile belongs to Christ , once he is in the family of God he is a new creature. When we are born again things change. Paul was sent to the gentiles it is also through Paul we are told we are one in Christ neither Jew or Greek. What the Scriptures tell us is more truth then our ethnicity. Persons of Jewish blood without Christ are heathen according to Scripture antichrist. My post is speaking in a Biblical way not talking of the blood in the veins.
 
Everyone who follow Jesus is a Hebrew. One who crosses over (what the word hebrew literally means) from death to life. From sin to salvation.
We the wild branch become grafted into the olive tree becoming one. Like Ruth was, whose lineage gives us our Messiah.

Being a physical Jew means nothing ( Israel is full of secular Jews). Being a spiritual Hebrew, Gods people, is everything.
No. There is the body of believers - the ekklesia (gentile and Jew), there are the children of Israel (by blood only) that will be saved, there is the unbelieving world (gentiles and Jews) that will not be saved. God is not done with Israel, and God is not done with the ekklesia; HE is able to continue to fulfill HIS promises to both simultaneously. Replacement theology is of the devil.
 
Believers are still called Gentiles.

Acts 21:25; But concerning the Gentiles who believe, we have written and decided that they should observe no such thing, except that they should keep themselves from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality."

Acts 28:28; "Therefore let it be known to you that the salvation of God has been sent to the Gentiles, and they will hear it!"

God is God of the Gentiles also.

Rom 3:29; Or is He the God of the Jews only? Is He not also the God of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also,

Rom 11:25; For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.

Rom 9:24; even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
 
No. There is the body of believers - the ekklesia (gentile and Jew), there are the children of Israel (by blood only) that will be saved, there is the unbelieving world (gentiles and Jews) that will not be saved. God is not done with Israel, and God is not done with the ekklesia; HE is able to continue to fulfill HIS promises to both simultaneously. Replacement theology is of the devil.
IT is the Shed Blood of Christ that saves not the blood in any man . I dont hold to replacement theology.
 
Everyone who follow Jesus is a Hebrew. One who crosses over (what the word hebrew literally means) from death to life. From sin to salvation.
We the wild branch become grafted into the olive tree becoming one. Like Ruth was, whose lineage gives us our Messiah.

Being a physical Jew means nothing ( Israel is full of secular Jews). Being a spiritual Hebrew, Gods people, is everything.
You are wrong about the literal meaning of the word Hebrew: it means "other side." Your determination that Hebrew means "cross over" was your own invention, made to fit your narrative. Furthermore, when referring to a person or a people, Hebrew means one born a Jew. Anyone not a Jew is not Hebrew and is therefore gentile.
 
ἔθνος
ethnos
eth'-nos
Probably from G1486; a race (as of the same habit), that is, a tribe; specifically a foreign (non-Jewish) one (usually by implication pagan): - Gentile, heathen, nation, people.
Total KJV occurrences: 164

As a Christians are we Jew or Gentile ? Scriptures to follow :
How is a Christian a pagan?
 
ἔθνος
ethnos
eth'-nos
Probably from G1486; a race (as of the same habit), that is, a tribe; specifically a foreign (non-Jewish) one (usually by implication pagan): - Gentile, heathen, nation, people.
Total KJV occurrences: 164

As a Christians are we Jew or Gentile ? Scriptures to follow :
What an interesting question. Gentile means 'pagan' but we are not pagans ....so NO we are not gentiles
Gentile means 'non Jew' so Yes we are gentiles
But we are grafted in to the vine...So No we are not gentiles
Then what about the Hebrew people who do not follow God? They become gentiles because they are not of God?
The fact of the matter is because we are Gods people we are NOT Gentiles...We are Gods people...

Look at these verses:

Matthew 12:18

“Here is my servant, whom I have chosen, my beloved, with whom I am well pleased; I will put my Spirit on him, and he will announce justice to the Gentiles.


Matthew 12:21

In him the Gentiles will put their hope.”


Acts 13:48

The Gentileswere very happy to hear this. They honored the message about the Lord, and as many as had been appointed to eternal life came to trust.


Acts 14:2

But the Jews who would not be persuaded stirred up the Gentilesand poisoned their minds against the brothers.


Acts 14:5

Eventually the unbelievers, both Jews and Gentiles, together with their leaders, made a move to mistreat the emissaries, even to stone them;


Acts 14:27

When they arrived, they gathered the Messianic community together and reported what God had done through them, that he had opened a door of faith to the Gentiles.


Acts 15:3

After being sent off by the congregation, they made their way through Phoenicia and Shomron, recounting in detail how the Gentileshad turned to God; and this news brought great joy to all the brothers.


Acts 15:12

Then the whole assembly kept still as they listened to Bar-Nabba and Sha’ul tell what signs and miracles God had done through them among the Gentiles.


Acts 15:23

with the following letter: From: The emissaries and the elders, your brothers To: The brothers from among the Gentilesthroughout Antioch, Syria and Cilicia Greetings!


Acts 21:19

After greeting them, Sha’ul described in detail each of the things God had done among the Gentilesthrough his efforts.


Romans 1:5

Through him we received grace and were given the work of being an emissary on his behalf promoting trust-grounded obedience among all the Gentiles,

There are quite a few more that you can look at. All of them refer to the unsaved....I know....Paul referred to Non Jew Christians as Gentiles at first too....He, as a man, was on a learning curve too. He didn't keep doing that.
 
Once a person is saved are they still gentiles .. Once a person of Jewish faith accepts Christ is he still antichrist ?

i say no to both
 
I'm not sure why our modern bibles use the word 'gentile' still. The original 'ethnos' is a neutral word meaning 'people's or 'nations'.

Its used in a way that's not perjorative in Matthew 28: "go to all the nations..."

When Paul talks about being a "true jew" its as part of an argument, not speaking literally. We hear people today talking of "true Americans" who love freedom and esteem courage etc.
 
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I'm not sure why our modern bibles use the word 'gentile' still. The original 'ethnos' is a neutral word meaning 'people's or 'nations'.

Its used in a way that's not perjorative in Matthew 28: "go to all the nations..."

When Paul talks about being a "true jew" its as part of an argument, not speaking literally. We hear people today talking of "true Americans" who love freedom and esteem courage etc.
Are we moving this conversation into political correctness now? The word used means "Pagan" or if you will...."Unbeliever"
 
What the Scriptures say ,imply or the way words are used IMO does not have to align with the use of those same words today. The Scriptures trump Webster's
 
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