Asking please no name calling

[Twistie]

Why do so many who claim to follow the Word claim the title christian?
Please let me finish speaking before you rush into an answer so that you may understand a bit where I am coming from
If we look at when n where that word Christian popped up it would b a derogatory word

If we seek in the Word you will find it written
I dare not exalt myself nor another for my Maker would destroy me

It is also written my Kingdom is a Kingdom of priests

The Messiah Neva claimed a title of the world it saddens me when I see so many claiming a title that's above what the Messiah claimed

We r told to turn from Evil to Separate and so many false preacher teachers prophets claiming the title christian yet so many hold on tight to the word Christian then Christ Himself

We r told A house divided will Fall n Yet so many hold on to that crumbling house


This weighs heavy on my heart

I get called names I'm asked why do u even wanna talk about YH all kinds of sly remarks n all the while being judged because I refuse to b called a title n boast about how blessed I am


Apologies but I had to get that off me cause it just hurts to much to hold it in

Thanks for even reading

(⁠ب⁠_⁠ب⁠)Twistie

 

[complete]

Why do so many who claim to follow the Word claim the title christian?
Please let me finish speaking before you rush into an answer so that you may understand a bit where I am coming from
If we look at when n where that word Christian popped up it would b a derogatory word

If we seek in the Word you will find it written
I dare not exalt myself nor another for my Maker would destroy me

It is also written my Kingdom is a Kingdom of priests

The Messiah Neva claimed a title of the world it saddens me when I see so many claiming a title that's above what the Messiah claimed

We r told to turn from Evil to Separate and so many false preacher teachers prophets claiming the title christian yet so many hold on tight to the word Christian then Christ Himself

We r told A house divided will Fall n Yet so many hold on to that crumbling house


This weighs heavy on my heart

I get called names I'm asked why do u even wanna talk about YH all kinds of sly remarks n all the while being judged because I refuse to b called a title n boast about how blessed I am


Apologies but I had to get that off me cause it just hurts to much to hold it in

Thanks for even reading

(⁠ب⁠_⁠ب⁠)Twistie

Hello @Twistie,

Thank you for explaining why you do not like to be called by the name of 'Christian'. I was hoping you would explain.

I am a sinner saved by God's grace. It is good to meet you.

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
our Lord and Head.
by God's grace.
Chris

 

[PloughBoy]

Why do so many who claim to follow the Word claim the title christian?
Please let me finish speaking before you rush into an answer so that you may understand a bit where I am coming from
If we look at when n where that word Christian popped up it would b a derogatory word

If we seek in the Word you will find it written
I dare not exalt myself nor another for my Maker would destroy me

It is also written my Kingdom is a Kingdom of priests

The Messiah Neva claimed a title of the world it saddens me when I see so many claiming a title that's above what the Messiah claimed

We r told to turn from Evil to Separate and so many false preacher teachers prophets claiming the title christian yet so many hold on tight to the word Christian then Christ Himself

We r told A house divided will Fall n Yet so many hold on to that crumbling house


This weighs heavy on my heart

I get called names I'm asked why do u even wanna talk about YH all kinds of sly remarks n all the while being judged because I refuse to b called a title n boast about how blessed I am


Apologies but I had to get that off me cause it just hurts to much to hold it in

Thanks for even reading

(⁠ب⁠_⁠ب⁠)Twistie

Talking about the name christian, what about the title "Man', it comes now days into what category, You might get into trouble by calling some creatures a "man"! you look, you do not know What you are looking at! you have to think, and still cannot come to a conclusion! Especially a old man like me. i see commercials on the internet the television sets, movies, Some i don' t know what i am looking at. I am telling you the truth.

So the definition of "christian" is the least of our problems. I feel sorry for these young people today. They getting them early, everybody is going to be name "Billy",

 

[Twistie]

Talking about the name christian, what about the title "Man', it comes now days into what category, You might get into trouble by calling some creatures a "man"! you look, you do not know What you are looking at! you have to think, and still cannot come to a conclusion! Especially a old man like me. i see commercials on the internet the television sets, movies, Some i don' t know what i am looking at. I am telling you the truth.

So the definition of "christian" is the least of our problems. I feel sorry for these young people today. They getting them early, everybody is going to be name "Billy",

The judgement starts with the house of YH n it should b a big problem especially those who clinge to it like it's their last breath n turning a blind eye to what the Christians are truly about

We r told to turn from Evil not to join in

I speak to those who claim Christian for they r those who r supposed to follow The Word n Instead(sigh) they rather blend in with the world


We r told to b separate from the world

Come out of Her My children so you do not receive the plagues of her sins

Christians most are very worldly very mean n very arrogant I've witnessed n I'd testify to the Lord about them because it's the simple Truth

I find it very disheartening the whole situation

Twistie

 

[PloughBoy]

The judgement starts with the house of YH n it should b a big problem especially those who clinge to it like it's their last breath n turning a blind eye to what the Christians are truly about

We r told to turn from Evil not to join in

I speak to those who claim Christian for they r those who r supposed to follow The Word n Instead(sigh) they rather blend in with the world


We r told to b separate from the world

Come out of Her My children so you do not receive the plagues of her sins

Christians most are very worldly very mean n very arrogant I've witnessed n I'd testify to the Lord about them because it's the simple Truth

I find it very disheartening the whole situation

Twistie

2 Peter 2 (ASV)

6and if He condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction by reducing them to ashes, having made them an example to those who would live ungodly thereafter; 7and if He rescued righteous Lot, oppressed by the sensual conduct of unprincipled men 8(for by what he saw and heard that righteous man, while living among them, felt his righteous soul tormented day after day with their lawless deeds), 9then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from temptation, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment for the day of judgment,"

The people actions "torment us" our souls not our minds, but our souls are TORMENTED, that only a TRUE CHILD of GOD Can Experience.

 

[Twistie]

2 Peter 2 (ASV)

6and if He condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction by reducing them to ashes, having made them an example to those who would live ungodly thereafter; 7and if He rescued righteous Lot, oppressed by the sensual conduct of unprincipled men 8(for by what he saw and heard that righteous man, while living among them, felt his righteous soul tormented day after day with their lawless deeds), 9then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from temptation, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment for the day of judgment,"

The people actions "torment us" our souls not our minds, but our souls are TORMENTED, that only a TRUE CHILD of GOD Can Experience.

Yea those who walked out were ones who were not part of it tho

 

[Brother Paul]

Why do so many who claim to follow the Word claim the title christian?
Please let me finish speaking before you rush into an answer so that you may understand a bit where I am coming from
If we look at when n where that word Christian popped up it would b a derogatory word

If we seek in the Word you will find it written
I dare not exalt myself nor another for my Maker would destroy me

It is also written my Kingdom is a Kingdom of priests

The Messiah Neva claimed a title of the world it saddens me when I see so many claiming a title that's above what the Messiah claimed

We r told to turn from Evil to Separate and so many false preacher teachers prophets claiming the title christian yet so many hold on tight to the word Christian then Christ Himself

We r told A house divided will Fall n Yet so many hold on to that crumbling house


This weighs heavy on my heart

I get called names I'm asked why do u even wanna talk about YH all kinds of sly remarks n all the while being judged because I refuse to b called a title n boast about how blessed I am


Apologies but I had to get that off me cause it just hurts to much to hold it in

Thanks for even reading

(⁠ب⁠_⁠ب⁠)Twistie

Can you tell me who Messiah Neva is?

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

So the definition of "christian" is the least of our problems. I feel sorry for these young people today. They getting them early, everybody is going to be name "Billy",

Billy .

Aaah yes, the enemy is attacking them early.

Parents sick the child infront of the world-wide-web, and let the cellphone, tablet, and other electronic devices babysit,
so that they can be taught the worlds values. And in these secular schools, I won't even get into what they are teaching
the children about sexuality.

It is something. Yet, this devil will be defeated, hopefully he won't take too many to hell with him.
May the gates of hell not prevail against the saints and their children. Praying for the youth.

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

Can you tell me who Messiah Neva is?

Are you serious or are you being funny?

I think he meant to say the "Messiah never"

As in the "Messiah never called himself by a title (well I guess He did, Son of God)"

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Why do so many who claim to follow the Word claim the title christian?

It's a convenient word to categorize folks who claim (whether accurately or not) some relationship with God, and Jesus.

Christian popped up it would b a derogatory word

Whether it was derogatory or no, or simply a categorization for Christ followers, isn't necessarily established. It's BECOMING a derogatory term in 2022, among some growing sectors. When I was young 80 years ago, "Christian" was an admirable classification in the U.S. Then it became something to be made fun of. In the foreseeable future it will become a "dangerous" classification, and being KNOWN as a Christian will be risky (maybe fatal).

We r told to turn from Evil to Separate and so many false preacher teachers prophets claiming the title christian yet so many hold on tight to the word Christian then Christ Himself

Paul indicated that there would be false prophets and teachers. He was right. WE ain't seen NOTHING yet. In 2022 satan "hides" in plain sight and people are BLIND to him.

We r told A house divided will Fall n Yet so many hold on to that crumbling house

The Church of Jesus Christ is, as always, in PERFECT condition, undivided, on schedule, and in budget, and will remain so til the end of the age.

Individual "Denominational systems" / religious corporations can and DO Start / Split / fall into error / go out of existence, all the time. No big deal - they're nothing but man's attempts at religion. The church of Jesus Christ has never been in any danger.

I've been s member of the "Assemblies of God" denominational system for most of the last 59 years. It's different now that it was in 1964, but that's not important to me. They do GOOD missionary work in the world, and lead folks into the Born Again experience all the time. That's good enough for me. If the Assemblies of God went out of business tomorrow, it wouldn't effect me one way or another.

 

[Brother Paul]

Are you serious or are you being funny?

I think he meant to say the "Messiah never"

As in the "Messiah never called himself by a title (well I guess He did, Son of God)"

Cool

 

[Christ4Ever]

Why do so many who claim to follow the Word claim the title christian?
Please let me finish speaking before you rush into an answer so that you may understand a bit where I am coming from
If we look at when n where that word Christian popped up it would b a derogatory word

If we seek in the Word you will find it written
I dare not exalt myself nor another for my Maker would destroy me

It is also written my Kingdom is a Kingdom of priests

The Messiah Neva claimed a title of the world it saddens me when I see so many claiming a title that's above what the Messiah claimed

We r told to turn from Evil to Separate and so many false preacher teachers prophets claiming the title christian yet so many hold on tight to the word Christian then Christ Himself

We r told A house divided will Fall n Yet so many hold on to that crumbling house


This weighs heavy on my heart

I get called names I'm asked why do u even wanna talk about YH all kinds of sly remarks n all the while being judged because I refuse to b called a title n boast about how blessed I am


Apologies but I had to get that off me cause it just hurts to much to hold it in

Thanks for even reading

(⁠ب⁠_⁠ب⁠)Twistie

Dear Sister, @Twistie

And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch. Acts 11:26 KJV
Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian. Acts 26:28 KJV
Yet if [any man suffer] as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf. 1 Peter 4:16 KJV

I agree there is a lot of shame to go around, but is it surprising? As we near the end of days, if we're not in them already, it shall be even worse. If they start with YH and make it something untold, do we stop using it? Are we dictated to by the chaff, and no longer are wheat because of their perverseness? I say Anathema!

If you don't want to be associated with that type of Christian, Amen! You are not alone. There are some here that take umbrage at even the suggestion of being called a Christian! Yet I will not allow the chaff (not them) who call themselves Christians to dictate what is acceptable or not as it pertains to the Word of God! Otherwise, should we now remove those 3 above verses from His Word because now the chaff has perverted what we know it is supposed to mean instead of those whose end will surely be burning? Have we stopped being His followers because of it? Do we call each other in greeting "Hi how are you doing Sister Christian, or do we say "Hi how are you my Sister, or Brother? For we know the who we belong to and are so calling each other His follower as in Christian unnecessary! So, it's for others to say and use, "You're a Christian." Amen, if they can tell by our actions that we are His followers and call us Christians! I say again Amen!

If others continue to pollute it's meaning, I'd rather be calling them on their bad behavior, words, etc., then seek to accommodate what the world now sees us as being because as I will say it again, the perverseness of others? Again, I say Anathema!

I hear you, Sister! The pain, the sorrow, that is being brought to associate our Love, our Savior, our King, and God is at times beyond bearing, and surely beyond understanding. Still, we walk rightly and seek to make ourselves less unworthy than we already are, to have such a Holy, Righteous One as Him pick us as Children of God!

So, some would choose just call me a follower of Jesus Christ, which is fine enough. If they say, "So, you're a Christian", and one now should say "No", I'm not, because of others who have turned it into what it originally was meant to be, instead of joy of being identified as a follower of His that it was turned into? Do, we still look at the Cross in the way it was originally meant by the Romans?

If I am a bit harsh, I'm sorry dear sister. My words here are not meant to be. There are so many out there who say they are His and are not. Yet, if there were only one still out there, I would not be ashamed. The shame is those who abuse His name/following, and not ours to take upon us, though the burden is ever present. I will surely try in those times to be as Peter said "..,if [any man suffer] as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf."

I've always thought of the days, when they start seeking us out, going house to house asking "Are you a Christian?" Knowing that it would be the death knell to say so, would I be of courage to say "Yes, Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior", or would I cower and shake my head no, knowing who they are looking for yet reasoning my way from admitting it! I pray that it will always be the former, rather than ever the latter! God have Mercy on my soul for my weakness should it be otherwise.

With the Love of Christ Jesus dear sister. You are never alone!
YBIC
Nick
\o/
<><

 

[PloughBoy]

Billy .

Aaah yes, the enemy is attacking them early.

Parents sick the child infront of the world-wide-web, and let the cellphone, tablet, and other electronic devices babysit,
so that they can be taught the worlds values. And in these secular schools, I won't even get into what they are teaching
the children about sexuality.

It is something. Yet, this devil will be defeated, hopefully he won't take too many to hell with him.
May the gates of hell not prevail against the saints and their children. Praying for the youth.

Your quote:
"Yet, this devil will be defeated,"

But we know HE Has Been "DEFEATED", "Past, Now, Future" Even Before The Foundations of The Worlds,, , "indicative'. For He is only a "mere creaion . For he was created to Fall and to FAIL although his missions seems successful to many but He knows his time is short. . His "DESTINY" .LAKE of FIRE, he knows he is defeated. but until then, he deceives "THE WHOLE WORLD" the saved and the unsaved. But we are not ignorant of his devices.

GOD knows how to "RESERVE" Those for their "DESTINY". For the Fire and The Life ETERNAL.

New American Standard Bible
But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly people.


English Standard Version (Jude 1:5,6)
:Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.
And the angels who did not stay within their own position of authority, but left their proper dwelling, he has kept in eternal chains under gloomy darkness until the judgment of the great day—:

Now everything thats happens has been "DECREED". The End The middle, Has been "DECREED" before The Beginning, They Do Not Know OUR GOD, OUR FATHER nor DO they conceive The "SPECTOR" and OF HIS POWER! HE decides The End from The Beginning. And all in between.

He is The CREATOR, Through HIS SON, meaning= HE told His SON what to do and how to do it! And The SON said : "MY FATHER IS GREATER than I.

Many christians and people, pastors biblical teachers have no idea or even, Thought about that, We have not even seen or heard , or imagine, what The FATHER CAN DO! And what He is going to do, EVEN To impress HIS SON

Chew on that for a while. That is The MANNA, Coming Down from HEAVEN!

Rejoice, Because Your name is Written...ff...........................[ EVERYONE of us are NOTHING BUT BABES in CHRIST } Mere BABIES, and many do not know it! Any many will not confess it and believe it, pride runs wild , within the "BODY of CHRIST".


NASB 1977
“Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rejoice that your names are recorded in heaven.”


NASB 1977
At that very time He rejoiced greatly in the Holy Spirit, and said, “I praise Thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that Thou didst hide these things from the wise and intelligent and didst reveal them to babes. Yes, Father, for thus it was well-pleasing in Thy sight.

Look and read that. I like this GOD.

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

But we know HE Has Been "DEFEATED", "Past, Now, Future" Even Before The Foundations of The Worlds,, , "indicative'. For He is only a "mere creaion . For he was created to Fall and to FAIL although his missions seems successful to many but He knows his time is short. . His "DESTINY" .LAKE of FIRE, he knows he is defeated. but until then, he deceives "THE WHOLE WORLD" the saved and the unsaved. But we are not ignorant of his devices.

Isn't that so hard to grasp sometimes. I agree with you 100%.

But isn't it hard at times to remember that, when you see all the crazy going on. But yup, I try to remind myself of that indeed.
Not that he will be defeated, but he has been defeated.

If this was football, for a team that has been defeated they sure are getting a lot of wins .
Maybe if it was football, it would be like a team in the regular season which does not have
the record to make it to the playoffs, so they are already not going to qualify, but they
still have some more games to play, and therefore while they can't make it to the playoffs, they sure
can stop from other teams from making it.

 

[PloughBoy]

Isn't that so hard to grasp sometimes. I agree with you 100%.

But isn't it hard at times to remember that, when you see all the crazy going on. But yup, I try to remind myself of that indeed.
Not that he will be defeated, but he has been defeated.

If this was football, for a team that has been defeated they sure are getting a lot of wins .
Maybe if it was football, it would be like a team in the regular season which does not have
the record to make it to the playoffs, so they are already not going to qualify, but they
still have some more games to play, and therefore while they can't make it to the playoffs, they sure
can stop from other teams from making it.

You are right sometimes, it is so hard to remember things that we well know. Like just a while ago and on other occasions so much stuff that I forget about "The Christ" and The Ways of GOD. And I think, I have to always remind myself and at other times others prime the pump, and the wisdom comes out. But if i an surrounded by the world and worldly Christians, they cloud my mind, and blocks that which comes from GOD. And I become unsatisfied, especially so called Good movies with good and happy ends, Or they lived happily here after. And all of the books i have read, i don't read them anymore. Once I have read Once i an done with them. The shelf they go. But i remember parts in them, and sometimes after i while of time, i found somethings, were not sound too! " like eating Steak and spitting the "gristle" out. And Still, the Bible has become my sole entertainment. And i have to remind myself, If i don't refresh myself in reading it per se, me. I will always feed upon "a little leaven" and spoil that which is good.

Like our little "escapade" concerning "SAMSON", I read it about twice again. Then, a unction came to mind, to continue reading, Chapter 17 about "Micah and The Levite from the tribe of Judah. But i am always somehow reminded of that story in my mind, The story is fresh in my mind, i mostly read it about 4 or 5 times this year alone. "You see i have a habit for over 40 years, when something or word, either biblically, or plain ordinary word comes to mind, I write it down or stop everything i a m doing and "Exhaust" that thought or word, in the car in my truck, what every i am doing I stop, and check it out and "exhaust" then i go my way, Giving it not another thought. And I go my way, and let GOD bring to mind at his "proper time".

So today I read Judges, chapter 17 about "Micah his mother, the silver, the Levite of the tribe of Judah,..etc. THEN I read, Chapter18
Then I READ, Chapters 19-21, the Levite, and his Concubine, her father, the cities, the hospitality of the old man, the rape, the "Revenge" the sorrow and the Repentance after the "Revenge" the "Restitution" and somehow "THE PARAKLETOS" has tied everything in place although i know all of these stories very plainly by heart. and not a week i do not think about each story in "The WHOLE BOOK" and each story even time they come to mind,

Like the "world" have done.
1. "The Farmer and The DELL"
2. "Three Blind Mice"
3. "Humpty Dumpty Sat on a Wall"
4, "There Once Was this Old Woman Who lived in A SHOE"
5. "Rapunzel Rapunzel. let down your hair"


Heaven has it own way as well.
Came about, From the Body of Christ, certain things [yet all] come together. and gather us as if a certain type of chain.

New American Standard Bible
But the Helper, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and remind you of all that I said to you.

Apologize "Twistie" for going off target.
PloughBoy

 

[Twistie]

Can you tell me who Messiah Neva is?

Neva is slang for never

 

[Twistie]

It's a convenient word to categorize folks who claim (whether accurately or not) some relationship with God, and Jesus.

Whether it was derogatory or no, or simply a categorization for Christ followers, isn't necessarily established. It's BECOMING a derogatory term in 2022, among some growing sectors. When I was young 80 years ago, "Christian" was an admirable classification in the U.S. Then it became something to be made fun of. In the foreseeable future it will become a "dangerous" classification, and being KNOWN as a Christian will be risky (maybe fatal).

Paul indicated that there would be false prophets and teachers. He was right. WE ain't seen NOTHING yet. In 2022 satan "hides" in plain sight and people are BLIND to him.

The Church of Jesus Christ is, as always, in PERFECT condition, undivided, on schedule, and in budget, and will remain so til the end of the age.

Individual "Denominational systems" / religious corporations can and DO Start / Split / fall into error / go out of existence, all the time. No big deal - they're nothing but man's attempts at religion. The church of Jesus Christ has never been in any danger.

I've been s member of the "Assemblies of God" denominational system for most of the last 59 years. It's different now that it was in 1964, but that's not important to me. They do GOOD missionary work in the world, and lead folks into the Born Again experience all the time. That's good enough for me. If the Assemblies of God went out of business tomorrow, it wouldn't effect me one way or another.

 

[Twistie]

Convenient doesn't make something right n Christian has always been derogatory name just people love claiming something to belong to something
Twistie

 

[Twistie]

N the internet is the mouth of the Beast
Twistie

 

[PloughBoy]

N the internet is the mouth of the Beast
Twistie

a good call mouth [tool}.