Babies do not sin Babies are Sinners They are Born Sinners and what do Sinners do? At the perfect Opportunity They Sin, Why Because They Are SINNERS

[KingJ]

FAQ: Why did Jesus say it's a "must" to be born again? (John 3:7)

REPLY: Because some folks were born wrong the first time.

For example: David believed he was a sinner even before he was a baby; right at
the moment of his conception.

• Ps 51:5 . . Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived
me.

Apparently it isn't necessary to commit a sin in order to be classified as a sinner.
It's the nature of our species. For example a lion need not eat meat to be classified
as a carnivore because it's the nature of his species.

• Rom 3:23 . . all have sinned.

In order for the past-tense grammar of that verse to be true of "all" then everyone
from the first to last, is classified as a sinner: even folks who have yet to be born in
the future. They too "have sinned" because God can see things about them that we
cannot see.

Now again, in order for the past-tense grammar of that verse to be true of "all"
then it has to include every baby; even those not yet born.
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If you believe a baby, toddler or young child can be born again, I truly have no words for you.

 

[PloughBoy]

If you believe a baby, toddler or young child can be born again, I truly have no words for you.

you alway can spot "Nominals Christians" a millions light years Out.


King James Bible
"For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and He Shall Be Filled With The Holy Ghost, Even From His Mother's Womb."

PloughBoy, it you did not Know this, Neither will Know others , for this is "Stuff for Toddler's "!

 

[Beetow]

• John 3:3-4 . . Jesus declared: I tell you the truth; no one can see the kingdom of
God unless he is born again. How can a man be born when he is old? Nicodemus
asked. Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb to be born!

No sir; one thing's for sure: it isn't a do-over.

Man came into being as a creature constructed from nature, i.e. Man is a natural
soul.

In contrast, the Man about which Jesus spoke is constructed from above-- i.e.
Heaven --so that he comes into being as a supernatural soul.

• John 3:5-6 . . Jesus answered: I tell you the truth; no one can enter the kingdom
of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the
Spirit gives birth to spirit.

NOTE: The chemistry of the "water" is very controversial. I'm satisfied knowing
what it is for myself, but do not care to discuss it.

* According to Jesus, the Spirit birth and the kingdom of God are earthly things
(John 3:12) so we're not talking about getting into Heaven, rather; we're talking
about citizenship in the millennium, i.e. Messiah's return and his governance of the
current scheme of things.

Seeing as how all the Old Testament luminaries were looking forward to that
kingdom, then they too will have to undergo the Spirit birth the same as everybody
else, viz: the "no one" in John 3:5 means just exactly that; no exceptions, viz:
Christians don't have a lock on this procedure, i.e. they don't own it.

FAQ: How does one get in on this Spirit birth requirement?

REPLY: I highly recommend beginning your application by following the example of
Jesus' crucified friend; like this:

• Luke 23:39-42 . . One of the criminals who hung there hurled insults at him:
Aren't you the Christ? Save yourself and us! But the other criminal rebuked him.
Don't you fear God, he said, since you are under the same sentence? We are
punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done
nothing wrong. Then he said: Jesus, remember me when you come into your
kingdom.

That man's confession, and his prayer, were 110% successful.

• Luke 23:43 . . Jesus answered him: I tell you the truth, today you will be with me
in paradise.
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[PloughBoy]

• John 3:3-4 . . Jesus declared: I tell you the truth; no one can see the kingdom of
God unless he is born again. How can a man be born when he is old? Nicodemus
asked. Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb to be born!

No sir; one thing's for sure: it isn't a do-over.

Man came into being as a creature constructed from nature, i.e. Man is a natural
soul.

In contrast, the Man about which Jesus spoke is constructed from above-- i.e.
Heaven --so that he comes into being as a supernatural soul.

• John 3:5-6 . . Jesus answered: I tell you the truth; no one can enter the kingdom
of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the
Spirit gives birth to spirit.

NOTE: The chemistry of the "water" is very controversial. I'm satisfied knowing
what it is for myself, but do not care to discuss it.

* According to Jesus, the Spirit birth and the kingdom of God are earthly things
(John 3:12) so we're not talking about getting into Heaven, rather; we're talking
about citizenship in the millennium, i.e. Messiah's return and his governance of the
current scheme of things.

Seeing as how all the Old Testament luminaries were looking forward to that
kingdom, then they too will have to undergo the Spirit birth the same as everybody
else, viz: the "no one" in John 3:5 means just exactly that; no exceptions, viz:
Christians don't have a lock on this procedure, i.e. they don't own it.

FAQ: How does one get in on this Spirit birth requirement?

REPLY: I highly recommend beginning your application by following the example of
Jesus' crucified friend; like this:

• Luke 23:39-42 . . One of the criminals who hung there hurled insults at him:
Aren't you the Christ? Save yourself and us! But the other criminal rebuked him.
Don't you fear God, he said, since you are under the same sentence? We are
punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done
nothing wrong. Then he said: Jesus, remember me when you come into your
kingdom.

That man's confession, and his prayer, were 110% successful.

• Luke 23:43 . . Jesus answered him: I tell you the truth, today you will be with me
in paradise.
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Why are you talking to people who are "BORN OF GOD" And for your Information JESUS NEVER Said the Words born again alone, Check the records! those words never fell out of his mouth. [Explanation]

"Nicodemus, a Pharisee and secret admirer of Jesus, is resolved to find ... the Master say that to be born again is to be born from above."
Jesus says “born from above” (John 3:3). Nicodemus misunderstands him as saying “born again”. It is clear in John 3:4 that Nicodemus ...

 

[Victor VanHeerden]

If you believe a baby, toddler or young child can be born again, I truly have no words for you.

Reformed theologians (Calvinists) have provided some of the best arguments for their understanding of infant/baby salvation. However in a desire to make their doctrine of infant salvation cohere with their overarching theological agenda, they have damned every infant on the planet.

How?

Their doctrine of sin and system of salvation have barred babies from God’s grace.

Why?

Original sin!

All human babies are born into a fallen society, family and also are born with a human sin nature, or psyche that is already guilty of Adamic sin and, therefore, humans cannot do much else but sin. Its their fallen Adamic nature.

When Adam sinned in his perfect state in the Garden of Eden he acquired a sin nature that was transferred to all the human race.

Every human is born with the guilt of Adam’s sin. Just like if you were found guilty in a court of law.

However salvation from a sin nature requires faith in Gods Salvation plan as revealed by the Gospels and Epistles.

Now if faith is required for salvation how are infants justified before God if they are born in guilt and cannot exercise saving faith?

With adults only a select group will be saved—they are the elect of God. Therefore the same with infants?

In this instance, every infant who dies is of the elect of God.

So infants are selected for salvation and heaven. Automatically.

Why? Because as elected by God, they were regenerated before dying and also actually had not yet committed any sin.

However it can also be seen this way.

a) Infants cannot exercise faith in Jesus Christ.
b) Therefore, infants do not exercise faith in Jesus Christ.
c) Therefore, infants are rejected by God.

they have damned every infant on the planet.

When is an infant no longer one?

Is a five year-old capable of cognitively understanding and accepting Jesus for purposes of being born again?
Very much doubt full. Ten? Twelve? Fifteen? Seventeen and a half? Twenty? Twenty five?

Its a known fact that the human healthy mind mostly only matures by the age of twenty five.

And some even much later. Growing into an adult is a gradual process: one that is different for every individual. Plus many adults still have mental faculties of infants in thier fourties and fifties and sixties and seventies and eighties,

 

[PloughBoy]

Reformed theologians (Calvinists) have provided some of the best arguments for their understanding of infant/baby salvation. However in a desire to make their doctrine of infant salvation cohere with their overarching theological agenda, they have damned every infant on the planet.

How?

Their doctrine of sin and system of salvation have barred babies from God’s grace.

Why?

Original sin!

All human babies are born into a fallen society, family and also are born with a human sin nature, or psyche that is already guilty of Adamic sin and, therefore, humans cannot do much else but sin. Its their fallen Adamic nature.

When Adam sinned in his perfect state in the Garden of Eden he acquired a sin nature that was transferred to all the human race.

Every human is born with the guilt of Adam’s sin. Just like if you were found guilty in a court of law.

However salvation from a sin nature requires faith in Gods Salvation plan as revealed by the Gospels and Epistles.

Now if faith is required for salvation how are infants justified before God if they are born in guilt and cannot exercise saving faith?

With adults only a select group will be saved—they are the elect of God. Therefore the same with infants?

In this instance, every infant who dies is of the elect of God.

So infants are selected for salvation and heaven. Automatically.

Why? Because as elected by God, they were regenerated before dying and also actually had not yet committed any sin.

However it can also be seen this way.

a) Infants cannot exercise faith in Jesus Christ.
b) Therefore, infants do not exercise faith in Jesus Christ.
c) Therefore, infants are rejected by God.

they have damned every infant on the planet.

When is an infant no longer one?

Is a five year-old capable of cognitively understanding and accepting Jesus for purposes of being born again?
Very much doubt full. Ten? Twelve? Fifteen? Seventeen and a half? Twenty? Twenty five?

Its a known fact that the human healthy mind mostly only matures by the age of twenty five.

And some even much later. Growing into an adult is a gradual process: one that is different for every individual. Plus many adults still have mental faculties of infants in thier fourties and fifties and sixties and seventies and eighties,

I not going to address this post no further than this. I will not go any further, "a little contaminating leaven spreads and contaminates the whole Lump"
your quote:
, "they have damned every infant on the planet."

my respond:
Where does a person, could ever place within One's, mind. That A mere piece of dirt and corruptible at that, Could Dam Anybody, and Supersedes "The WiLL" of "The GOD ALMIGHTY" Only one kind of a person, could attempt to express such a "Abomination" against The very "Anthropomorphic" Fabric of "The LORD GOD ALMIGHTY" is a person that has lost their way and walking and stumbling in the dark, trying to find their way without a aid, even of a stick.

PloughBoy is my name.

 

[Beetow]

Infants don't stay infants: they grow up to become adults with a fallen nature.

Now; I don't know when or where deceased infants undergo the Spirit birth about
which Jesus spoke in John 3:3-8, but for sure the little buggers have to undergo it
eventually because there are no exceptions to that requirement-- in point of fact:
it's a "must".
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[Victor VanHeerden]

Infants don't stay infants: they grow up to become adults with a fallen nature.

Now; I don't know when or where deceased infants undergo the Spirit birth about
which Jesus spoke in John 3:3-8, but for sure the little buggers have to undergo it
eventually because there are no exceptions to that requirement-- in point of fact:
it's a "must".
_

If taken literally John 3:3-8 means you 'MUST" be "born again".

If you teach this to an infant they will oblige. Why? Because its want infants do. They believe most things their parents, teachers, Priests,Pastors, etc tell them, is the right thing to do. They lack analytical capabilities associated with mature adults.

So what is the point of an infant selecting to be born again?

Or even of anyone who does not make a choice void of strong emotion, vulnerability state, coercion etc.