Beware Of The False Teacher

[Stephen1]

All false teachers draw and control with the following doctrinal offerings for the purpose of creating and inserting their cult like designs to deceive the unlearned and the unwary away from the truth:

1.Salvation by works

2.Removal and replacement of national ethnic Israel in scriptural prophecy

3.Refutation of the Lord's pre-tribulation "rapture"

4.Induced pseudo-sensual "spiritual" experiences in their worship services

5.Proprietary and exclusive membership for the followers

Once convinced, the followers can then be led astray with all sorts of fabricated falsehoods including those that can result in the loss of one's own salvation.

The false teacher must be able to impose legalisms for controlling the membership, remove national Israel from the scriptures, eliminate the Lord's pre-tribulational immortalizing of the believer, attract with false manifestational experiences, and claim the exclusivity of the teacher's dogmas.

All of this is done in order to insert and sell the deceptions by those who come in the name of Jesus Christ to capture the unlearned and the unwary. Those who do this sort of thing are legion today and they have infested the professing church for the purpose of promoting self gain and at the same time satan's ambition to make a mockery of the truth [the Lord has said that many would come in His name with the intent to deceive].

 

[jiggyfly]

All false teachers draw and control with the following doctrinal offerings for the purpose of creating and inserting their cult like designs to deceive the unlearned and the unwary away from the truth:

1.Salvation by works

2.Removal and replacement of national ethnic Israel in scriptural prophecy

3.Refutation of the Lord's pre-tribulation "rapture"

4.Induced pseudo-sensual "spiritual" experiences in their worship services

5.Proprietary and exclusive membership for the followers

Once convinced, the followers can then be led astray with all sorts of fabricated falsehoods including those that can result in the loss of one's own salvation.

The false teacher must be able to impose legalisms for controlling the membership, remove national Israel from the scriptures, eliminate the Lord's pre-tribulational immortalizing of the believer, attract with false manifestational experiences, and claim the exclusivity of the teacher's dogmas.

All of this is done in order to insert and sell the deceptions by those who come in the name of Jesus Christ to capture the unlearned and the unwary. Those who do this sort of thing are legion today and they have infested the professing church for the purpose of promoting self gain and at the same time satan's ambition to make a mockery of the truth [the Lord has said that many would come in His name with the intent to deceive].

So you believe that all false teachers operate this same way using this same method, where did you come by this info?

 

[Stephen1]

The false teachers of professing christianity can be found and recognized by taking the positions listed .... a comprehensive study of their movements, experiences, and history will reveal this

 

[jiggyfly]

The false teachers of professing christianity can be found and recognized by taking the positions listed .... a comprehensive study of their movements, experiences, and history will reveal this

So basically anyone who disagrees with your interpretation of the scriptures concerning the topics you listed is a false teacher in your eyes, correct?

 

[Fellowservant]

Speaking of exploitation and deception, i could probably get more followers by teaching a pre-tribulation rapture more so than a post-trib one Not very many folks like a post-trib rapture, including myself.

If i was going to exploit Gods people for what ever reason, i would probably teach a pre-trib rapture, not a post-trib one. Refutations of this are many, and as ive said before they all claim to have their own proof text.

I even have some of my own. This is tough stuff brother, and more dark sayings than we can shake a stick at. But we shall see when the time comes. I think even Daniel would have a hard time with it

I also think we can teach falseness by using prophecy the wrong way, as in wanting to believe something that may actually not be true. That's why i have decided to not teach it at all, other than show the contradictions of some sides and ideas.

That way i don't make myself a false teacher of prophecy, by holding on to a belief that may be incorrect, and teaching it as Gods almighty truth. But i do agree with some of your post....


God bless brother

 

[Stephen1]

FS,

False teaching is rampant today just as the Lord said .... many will come in His name and will deceive many .... there is always a questionable motive behind the false teacher

Most of them are out for personal gain whether it be power, position, control over others, and certainly financial gain

The deeper attraction is satan's ploy to manipulate human weakness and temptation to take advantage

What must be understood is that he is out to destroy and to prevent human immortality on every turn

Stephen

 

[complete]

BEWARE

'Beware of false prophets,
which come to you in sheep's clothing,
but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Ye shall know them by their fruits. .... ?'
(Mat 7:15,16)

'But beware of men:
for they will deliver you up to the councils,
and they will scourge you in their synagogues;
And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake,
for a testimony against them and the Gentiles.'
(Mat 10:17,18)

'Then Jesus said unto them,
Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.
(12) Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread,
but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.'
(Mat 16:6, 12)

'And he charged them, saying,
Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees,
and of the leaven of Herod. '
(Mar 8:15)

'And he said unto them in his doctrine,
Beware of the scribes,
which love to go in long clothing,
and love salutations in the marketplaces,
And the chief seats in the synagogues,
and the uppermost rooms at feasts:
Which devour widows' houses,
and for a pretence make long prayers:
these shall receive greater damnation.'
(Mar 12:38-40)

' ... Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees,
which is hypocrisy.'
(Luk 12:1)

'And he said unto them,
Take heed, and beware of covetousness:
for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.'
(Luk 12:15)

'Beware therefore,
lest that come upon you,
which is spoken of in the prophets;
'Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish:
for I work a work in your days,
a work which ye shall in no wise believe,
though a man declare it unto you.'
(Act 13:40.41)

'Beware of dogs,
beware of evil workers,
beware of the concision.
For we are the circumcision,
which worship God in the spirit,
and rejoice in Christ Jesus,
and have no confidence in the flesh.'
(Php 3:2,3)

'Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit,
after the tradition of men,
after the rudiments of the world,
and not after Christ.
For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
And ye are complete in him,
which is the head of all principality and power:'
(Col 2:8-10)

'Ye therefore, beloved,
seeing ye know these things before,
beware lest ye also,
being led away with the error of the wicked,
fall from your own stedfastness.
But grow in grace,
and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.'
(2Pet 3:17.18)

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In the verses above there is the call to 'beware', to take notice and avoid the errors listed there.

Each verse (with it's context) would be worth considering, for each danger itemised, such as the hypocricy of the Pharisees, and the desire for worldly advancement and honour that the scribes were guilty of, and that of Herod, which was in the realm of politics, all have something to teach us.

* However it is those warnings in the Epistles of Paul that are the ones which most apply to us as believers, for they warn us of those who would take us from the knowledge of our completeness in Christ, and the all sufficiency of His one sacrifice on our behalf.

With love in Christ Jesus
Our risen and glorified,
Saviour, Lord and Head.

Complete

 

[01redeemed]

hmmm

All false teachers draw and control with the following doctrinal offerings for the purpose of creating and inserting their cult like designs to deceive the unlearned and the unwary away from the truth:

1.Salvation by works

2.Removal and replacement of national ethnic Israel in scriptural prophecy

[HIGH-LIGHT]3.Refutation of the Lord's pre-tribulation "rapture"[/HIGH-LIGHT]

[HIGH-LIGHT]4.Induced pseudo-sensual "spiritual" experiences in their worship services[/HIGH-LIGHT]

5.Proprietary and exclusive membership for the followers

Once convinced, the followers can then be led astray with all sorts of fabricated falsehoods including those that can result in the loss of one's own salvation.

The false teacher must be able to impose legalisms for controlling the membership, remove national Israel from the scriptures, eliminate the Lord's pre-tribulational immortalizing of the believer, attract with false manifestational experiences, and [HIGH-LIGHT]claim the exclusivity of the teacher's dogmas. [/HIGH-LIGHT]
All of this is done in order to insert and sell the deceptions by those who come in the name of Jesus Christ to capture the unlearned and the unwary. Those who do this sort of thing are legion today and they have infested the professing church for the purpose of promoting self gain and at the same time satan's ambition to make a mockery of the truth [the Lord has said that many would come in His name with the intent to deceive].

well the pre-trib rapture is and can be refuted, I refute it (and I am not a false teacher) and one must be careful not to exclude actual real experiences with God as false. I do agree that there are many fake manifestations (self-induced) but not all. What in the world does the pre-trib rapture have to do with immortalization of the believer? Whether pre mid post, whatever trib, we will be made immortal. As for claiming exclusive dogmas you are in a sense doing that very thing with this post. I would have to say that you have some of the truth in this matter, but there is also lack and misunderstanding.

I am not posting to start an argument with you or anyone for that matter. I just simply do not agree with some of what you have posted and I think others should have some things pointed out and made a little more clear. We are to test all things to see if they are from God. May you be blessed abundantly.

 

[complete]

Hi,

We all have the written Word of God by which we can measure the teaching we receive, and it is essential that we do that to avoid falling into error.

Any ministry that appeals to the emotions, to 'feelings' and 'experiences' should be avoided, for these things are only temporal and are not to be trusted. They are of the flesh and appeal to the 'natural man', the truths of God are only 'spiritually' discerned, and the 'natural man' cannot receive them.

The 'natural man' can be very 'religious', and love observing fasts, and keeping of days, ceremonial events, worship in song, and heartrending prayer and plea, but the things of God are unknown to him still. Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.


In Christ
Complete

 

[Stephen1]

There are many today who teach others to seek the tribulation period of the Lord's coming hour [time] of trial and claim the need to be judged and for "purification" they say. There seems to be an intrinsic need for receiving the Lord's unmitigated wrath during His coming judgment against human intransigence in spite of the truth about the matter as the scriptures tell. This is a strange thing indeed and the underlying motive and objective is to lead one away from their own salvation

There will be a place for them if they are living at the time of the beginning of the period and into the tribulation period they will go [Matthew 25:1-13; Revelation 3:16] . This is a biblical fact. There are even some who claim super "elite" status and that they will somehow be made into invincible perfected beings for the purpose of establishing the Lord's coming millennial kingdom themselves before He gets involved by His visible reurn at the end of the tribulation.

There are some who claim "protected" status by billing themselves as the 144,000 sealed mortal Israelites, or the believing part of national Israel who will flee into the Jordanian wilderness, and even the two prophets who will stand before the Lord in Jerusalem. These "protections" are limited and specific; and only if one is an ethnic Israelite. And there are even some who look forward to martyrdom and having their heads removed.

All of these argue themselves into the events of the tribulation with much vigor and attempt to convince others to go with them supporting their views with scripture by aberrant teaching. I say let them go. Do not fight the issue with them. The Lord will execute His coming judgment against unbelief and related actions in spite of what humans think. He will not change His schedule .... and it is the Lord who will come unexpectedly and with no warning to began His wrath against an intrasnsigent and unbelieving world

But just before, He will immortalize today's church .... both those asleep and those living at the time .... today's believers are seen in heaven with the Lord [those who dwell in heaven in His temple there and around His throne] .... not on the earth .... as Revelation unfolds [Revelation 4:4,5:8-10,7:9-17,11:1,12:12,13:6,19:1-14, and 20:4 (those on thrones .... symbol of His government)]

Keep in mind that Revelation's structure is repetitive and revolves as the scriptures move forward

Revelation
16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame [parenthetical].

3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

1Thessalonians,
4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout [command], with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up [harpazo] together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

Revelation
18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

7:13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?

7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of [away from] great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

7:15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

19:1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:

19:2 For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great *****, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.

19:3 And again they said, Alleluia And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.

19:4 And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia.

19:5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great.

19:6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.

19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

19:9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them [the 24 elders and the great multitude]: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands [the martyrs of the tribulation period]; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

WARNING: The believer must be ready for the Lord's "harpazo" action to immortalize the church and not to be found refuting His promise. There are only two resurrections to immortality scheduled during the tribulation period .... the Lord's two prophets and the tribulation martyrs. No others are described. The gatherings of a few surviving mortals at the end of the tribulation period as noted in Matthew 24:29-31 and 25:31-46 are not resurrections.

Do not let false teachers and false prophets deceive you regarding this issue. They have come, are in abundance today, and all carry the hallmark of refuting the Lord's early immortalization of the believer just before He brings His wrath and judgment to a world of unbelief and intransigence against Him. Satan is behind this onslaught against the Lord and His intents .... and he hates the potential for human immortality.

 

[Stephen1]

The early believers of Thessalonica were troubled because of the prevalent false teaching that the day of the Lord was in process .... they thought they had missed the Lord's "harpazo" action to immortalize them

Paul had discussed this issue with them earlier [1Thessalonians 4, 5] and so he sets the record straight by explaining that the day of the Lord had not yet come ..... he also tells them why ..... because certain conditions were not present .... the coming of the lawless one and his following [the falling away]

The gathering Paul speaks of and the day of the Lord are not the same events and the Lord's immortalization of the believer [both those asleep and those living at the time] will occur first ..... and then the day of the Lord will begin abruptly with no warning given to earth dwellers

The day of the Lord will begin with His "hour" of trial [the coming tribulation period of 2,550 days] .... and will then include His coming millennial kingdom upon the earth for 1,000 years

The term "last day" [the time frame of the day of the Lord] used in prophetic presentation is a time period .... not just one day .... and when this is used it is always presented as "at", or "in" the last day .... not "on" the last day

This use of the preposition "at" or "in" indicates that the "last day" [time] is a time frame in which many events will take place beginning with the Lord's "harpazo" action for today's believer

 

[jiggyfly]

Well there are definitely some things that we disagree on especially your method of identifying "false teachers", so I assume that it makes me a false teacher as far as you are concerned. I am sure there are some others here at TJ who share the same opinion concerning me but it really doesn't upset me in the least.

Many of the religious crowd in Jesus' day thought the same thing of Jesus.:shade:

 

[complete]

Hi,

In regard to the resurrection spoken of in Thessalonians and associated references, referred to by man as 'The Rapture' the timing of that should be without controversy, because of the details given in it's description. It says that it will take place after the man of sin is revealed, and that takes place at the beginning of the 'great' tribulation, which is the last half of the 7 year period covered by the tribulation.

However, as a member of the Church which is His Body, the fullness of Him that filleth all in all, the hope revealed by revelation to Paul while in prison in Rome: having been 'hidden' in God since before the foundation of the world, and made known by Paul, in those letters written during that period; namely, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1&2 Timothy, Titus and Philemon, the resurrection that I look for is the out-resurrection of Philippians (Phil. 3:11 & c), which can take place at any time of God's choosing. It waits for no trumpet blast, or man of sin to be revealed. For when Christ is manifested in glory, we too will be manifested with Him there (Col. 3:4).

I say this to show that there is more than one hope in scripture and more than one time for it's fulfilment. Once you know the hope that applies to your calling then there is no more room for dispute.

In Christ
Chris

 

[HisFollower]

We have the obvious, but also the not so obvious false teacher´s which are among us, and even in the very bosom of the church. The false teacher´s are any that begin to think, and then speak above that which is written; likewise, the false teacher´s are any that begin modifying righteousness to accommodate sin; and such things can begin at any moment. The key for the believer is in learning to not think above that which is written, so that not at any time we would begin to exaggerate and over-estimate God´s Word. How else could we bring into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ, except we remain exclusively in that which is written?

 

[complete]

Amen to that Hisfollower.

Acts 17:10,11
'And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.
These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.'

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This attitude portrayed by those of Berea who 'heard' the preaching of Paul were not likely to be deceived, because they brought everything that they heard to the Scriptures to verify their authenticity. This could be done because at that time, because as Paul said, 'he said none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say.'


* 'Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come: That Christ should suffer, and that He should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should show light unto the people (Israel), and to the Gentiles.' (Acts 26:22,23)

** ' ... And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the Kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets from morning till evening.' (Acts 28:23)

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However, after receiving the revelation of God concerning the administration of 'The Church which is His Body', written down and made known to us in the epistles (Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1&2 Timothy, Titus and Philemon), the knowledge of which being 'hid in God' until revealed to Paul (Eph. 3:8,9), the content was not verifiable by searching the Old Testament Scriptures, so many left Paul's ministry and walked with him no longer. (2 Tim. 1:15)

We are blessed in having the whole Written Testimony of God, as well as 'The Living Word' and 'The Holy Spirit' to guide us into all truth. We are not limited to the Old Testament Scriptures in making our search. So we are without excuse. It is for us also to search the scriptures 'to see if these things are so'.

In Christ
Chris

 

[Bambi]

Be a Berean

That's the problem when people have an incorrect belief about Biblical doctrines. They don't study scriptures for themselves. They let others do it for them. Or they use commentaries or other books written by men who voice their own opinions and then the lay-person takes it as truth instead of searching the scriptures.

I never study Revelation before because the Preacher or teachers made me think I was stupid. Because what they were saying and what the Word of God was saying were two different things.

Once I sat down and studied it for myself I saw that what they preached wasn't true. I still don't fully understand Revelation and maybe we aren't meant too.

I do believe this since studying Revelation. I don't believe in a Pre-Trib Rapture, a Seven Year Tribulation period, or a Millennium earthly kingdom. Could I be wrong, you bet. I'm still studying to see if these things be so.

 

[Stephen1]

False teaching was present in the first century just like it is today ... do not let the false teacher of post-tribulational theology steal your crown [Revelation 3:10-11]

The early believers of Thessalonica were troubled because of the prevalent false teaching that the day of the Lord was in process .... they thought they had missed the Lord's "harpazo" action to immortalize them

Paul had discussed this issue with them earlier [1Thessalonians 4, 5] and so he sets the record straight by explaining that the day of the Lord had not yet come ..... he also tells them why ..... because certain conditions were not present .... the coming of the lawless one and his following [the falling away]

The gathering Paul speaks of and the day of the Lord are not the same events and the Lord's immortalization of the believer [both those asleep and those living at the time] will occur first ..... and then the day of the Lord will begin abruptly with no warning given to earth dwellers

The day of the Lord will then begin with His "hour" of trial [the coming tribulation period of 2,550 days] .... and will then include His coming millennial kingdom upon the earth for 1,000 years [Daniel 9; 12; Micah 4; Revelation 20:1-4]

The term "last day" [the time frame of the day of the Lord] used in prophetic presentation is a time period .... not just one day .... and when this is used it is always presented as "at", or "in" the last day .... not "on" the last day

This use of the preposition "at" or "in" indicates that the "last day" [time] is a time frame in which many events will take place beginning with the Lord's "harpazo" ["rapture"] action for today's believer.

Revelation confirms that this gathering noted in 2Thessalonians 2:1 is the Lord's call to immortalize the believer just before His coming hour of trial. Today's church is seen with Him dwelling heaven, in His temple, and around the throne just before, during, and at the closing of the tribulation period. [Revelation 3:10; 4:4; 5:5-10; 7:9-17; 11:1; 12:12; 13:6; 17:14; 19:1-14; 20;4 (those on thrones)]

 

[farouk]

Ms complete:

You are right to refer to Thessalonians. My observation would be, though, that there is a clear distinction of emphasis between the Lord's coming for His saints in 1 Thess. 4, and His coming in power and glory in 2 Thess.

Hi,

In regard to the resurrection spoken of in Thessalonians and associated references, referred to by man as 'The Rapture' the timing of that should be without controversy, because of the details given in it's description. It says that it will take place after the man of sin is revealed, and that takes place at the beginning of the 'great' tribulation, which is the last half of the 7 year period covered by the tribulation.

However, as a member of the Church which is His Body, the fullness of Him that filleth all in all, the hope revealed by revelation to Paul while in prison in Rome: having been 'hidden' in God since before the foundation of the world, and made known by Paul, in those letters written during that period; namely, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1&2 Timothy, Titus and Philemon, the resurrection that I look for is the out-resurrection of Philippians (Phil. 3:11 & c), which can take place at any time of God's choosing. It waits for no trumpet blast, or man of sin to be revealed. For when Christ is manifested in glory, we too will be manifested with Him there (Col. 3:4).

I say this to show that there is more than one hope in scripture and more than one time for it's fulfilment. Once you know the hope that applies to your calling then there is no more room for dispute.

In Christ
Chris

 

[Fellowservant]

False teaching was present in the first century just like it is today ... do not let the false teacher of post-tribulational theology steal your crown [Revelation 3:10-11]

Well brother, Jesus said in Matthew 24:29 and Mark 13:24 that he would return and send his angels to gather the elect after the tribulation.

So does that make Christ a false post-trib teacher? I don't think taking what Christ said here at face value, will cause you to lose your crown.

And if my view on the tribulation is post, im in good company as Christ was also post in those scriptures i gave. So now we have to ask the question again, was Jesus a false teacher as well?

And yes i know its time to play the two second coming card, but i have my doubts on that. lol this stuff is complicated:shock:


God bless brother

 

[Stephen1]

You are very presumptious with your statements

If you think you understand Matthew 24:29-31 and 25:31-46 to be a resurrection of believers .... then this is what you think you know

I can tell you that your understanding is not correct .... these gatherings and separations after the tribulation period are not resurrections to immortality

Those gathered are the mortal survivors of the the coming tribulation period and they will be gathered on the earth by the Lord for separation .... those found believing will enter and populate His millennial kingdom on the earth [those found in unbelief will be rejected] ..... first the believing remnant of Israel, and then those of the nations that are left

Immortal believers do not reproduce and will never be deceived by satan

Why do you think that satan will be captured and locked in the abyss during the Lord's millennial kingdom? .... so that he cannot deceive the mortal nations during the period .... these are mortal nations, not resurrected believers

Do you read Revelation 20? Have you read the prophets' views of the Lord's coming millennial kingdom on the earth?

Do they speak of mortals living on the earth during the period?

If all belivers are "raptured" as you think just at the end of the tribulation period, then there would be no believing "elect" and "sheep" to enter and populate the kingdom .... but there will be

Do you think that the Lord is going to just hatch a new batch of mortals for His kingdom?

You need to study these matters further so that you do not continue to spread the heritical teaching of post-tribulational thought

I would also suggest that you study Ezekiel 40 thru 48 .... this is a picture of the Lord's coming millennial kingdom on the earth .... the inhabitants in this vision are mortals, not resurrected humans

Do you follow David Macpherson? ..... he is a false teacher

And the Lord is not a false teacher as you say .... He speaks very clearly regarding His intents and timing to immortalize today's believers

[Matthew 25:1-13; 1Corinthians 23-58; 1Thessalonians 4:13-18; 2Thessalonians 2:1; Revelation 3:10-11; 4:4; 5:5-10; 7:9-17; 11:1; 12:12; 13:6; 17:14; 18:4; 19:1-14; 20:4 (those on thrones)

These who dwell in heaven, in the temple, and around the throne will be with the Lord long before the end of the tribulation period just as Revelation tells

Will you be one of them?

Study your Bible and preach the truth

Do not convince yourself into the Lord's coming hour [time] of trial and teach others to go with you .... very few who go will repent and be saved during the period and billions who do not will be destroyed and lost forever

Most of those who do turn will be martyred for their belief by the beast and his followers just as Revelation tells

Satan hates the idea of human immortality, he is up to no good, and he does want to get a shot at you when he comes to the earth during the tribulation period

Reject the false teachers who are deceiving on this matter and seek the truth .... the Lord could intervene suddenly with no warning and before this day is over