Bible Problem

[Waggles]

Greek numerology like astrology is a for those who do not rightfully divide the living according to the loving commandment that we might seek His approval. .(2 Tim 2:15) warning us not to seek the approval of men .

Bible Numerics [New Testament] and gematria [Old Testament] has nothing to do with numerology or astrology or any other smear against God SEALING his true word
against the apocrypha and other false books, along with false inclusions such as 1John 5:7 in the KJV.
Go on YouTube and look up the amazing numerics of Genesis 1:1 - the multiples of 7 in respect to the vowels and consonants, the word values and the letters of the Hebrew
alphabet are mind boggling.
EVERY VERSE of the Word of God in the original Hebrew and Greek is confirmed and sealed by God through complex arithmetic values of 7 and 37 to protect the most valuable
asset we have on Earth from fraudulent attacks by scribes, and especially the RCC.
Ever heard of the gospel of Thomas - the Shepherd of Hermas - the Third Epistle to the Corinthians - the two Epistles of Clement - The Gospel of the Hebrews - Gospel of Bartholomew
- Epistle of Barnabas - The Teaching (Didache) of the Apostles ??? Bible numerics separates the trash from the truth.
And there are also much apocryphal books of the OT as well, which can be sifted out through Hebrew gematria.

ALL scripture is divinely inspired by the mind of God through the work of the Holy Spirit upon those ordained to write the scriptures.
God is truly the great mathematician not only for the physics of the universe but also for his written word.

 

[Waggles]

The first 17 verses of the New Testament contain the genealogy of the Christ. - Matthew chapter 1
Ivan Panin gave us the Bible Numerics of Koine Greek alphabet used to write our NT.
It consists of two main parts: Verses 1-11 cover the period from Abraham, the father of the chosen people, to the Captivity, when they ceased as an independent people.
Verses 12-17 cover the period from the Captivity to the promised Deliverer, the Christ.
Let us examine the first part of this genealogy.
Its vocabulary has 49 words, or 7×7. This number is itself seven sevens.
Of these 49 words 28, or 4 sevens, begin with a vowel; and 21, or 3 sevens, begin with a consonant.
Again: these 49 words of the vocabulary have 266 letters, or 7×2×19; this number is itself 38 sevens, and the sum of its factors is 28, or 4 sevens, while the sum of its figures is 14,
or 2 sevens.
Of these 266 letters, moreover, 140, or 20 sevens, are vowels, and 126, or 18 sevens, are consonants.

That is to say: Just as the number of words in the vocabulary is a multiple of seven, so is the number of its letters a multiple of seven; just as the sum of the factors of the number of the words
is a multiple of seven, so is the sum of the factors of the number of their letters a multiple of seven.
And just as the number of words is divided between vowel words and consonant words by sevens, so is their number of letters divided between vowels and consonants by sevens.
from "Letter to the New York Sun – 21st November 1899" by Ivan Panin

And this pattern of sevens is from Genesis 1:1 through to Revelation 22:21
God not only seals the elect by his Spirit but also his word - the holy scriptures.
And why not given the opposition in this world and in spiritual realm to the truth of God.
This is also how we know that Mark 16:14-20 is the inspired word of God and not some false addition inserted later.

 

[Waggles]

Thus we come to the controversy of KJV only against other versions -

1John 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. [KJV]

1John 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, Jesus Christ; not with the water only, but with the water and with the blood.
5:7 And it is the Spirit that witnesseth, because the Spirit is the truth.
5:8 Because the witnessing ones are three: the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and the three agree in one.
5:9 If we receive the witness of *men, the witness of *God is greater: because the witness of *God is this that he hath witnessed concerning his *Son.
[NENT Greek wording determined by Bible Numerics]

 

[Garee]

Bible Numerics [New Testament] and gematria [Old Testament] has nothing to do with numerology or astrology or any other smear against God SEALING his true word
against the apocrypha and other false books, along with false inclusions such as 1John 5:7 in the KJV.
Go on YouTube and look up the amazing numerics of Genesis 1:1 - the multiples of 7 in respect to the vowels and consonants, the word values and the letters of the Hebrew
alphabet are mind boggling.
EVERY VERSE of the Word of God in the original Hebrew and Greek is confirmed and sealed by God through complex arithmetic values of 7 and 37 to protect the most valuable
asset we have on Earth from fraudulent attacks by scribes, and especially the RCC.
Ever heard of the gospel of Thomas - the Shepherd of Hermas - the Third Epistle to the Corinthians - the two Epistles of Clement - The Gospel of the Hebrews - Gospel of Bartholomew
- Epistle of Barnabas - The Teaching (Didache) of the Apostles ??? Bible numerics separates the trash from the truth.
And there are also much apocryphal books of the OT as well, which can be sifted out through Hebrew gematria.

ALL scripture is divinely inspired by the mind of God through the work of the Holy Spirit upon those ordained to write the scriptures.
God is truly the great mathematician not only for the physics of the universe but also for his written word.

Hi thanks for the reply.

If you sifted through the book of prophecy the bible using the oral tradition of numerology .You have already established your teachings master .you said "EVERY VERSE of the Word of God in the original Hebrew and Greek is confirmed and sealed by God through complex arithmetic values of 7 and 37 to protect the most valuable"

7 can be used just as 1 or 10 ,100 ,1000 , 10,000 etc but each word has a meaning already established called parable. (not sounds without meaning . . .vowels and consonants . . .some call tongues.)

You said. . . . in respect to the vowels and consonants, the word values and the letters of the Hebrew alphabet are mind boggling.

Mind boggling ?

Mind boggling is marveling it is not believing. . . exercising, working out faith yoked with Christ. ) we are not saved by wondering marveing but are by the power of the living word .And "it was good". His word is Spirit life giving.

John 23: 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

No sign gifts were given. . . spiritual gift yes. what the eyes see no.

1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

 

[Garee]

Since the bible originally did not have Capitalizations, Paragraphs or Punctuations... just look at the change in
meaning of what we commonly read and we ALL know...

Luke 23:43

And He said to him, “Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise.”

Just move that translator placed comma one word to the right. The verse says the same. The meaning is altered and quite likely.

“Truly I say to you today, you shall be with Me in Paradise.”

My prefered translations are NASB95, Greek/English Interlinear, and the Septuagint aka LXX

I rarely follow King Jimmy's translation unless for comparison.

Thanks good example.

In one way "today" is any time we hear his voice and harden not our hearts . Either translation would seem to work in that case .

I think the focus is more towards the word "today" the Sabbath rest the mixing of faith unrevealing the mystery of faith. . . Christ in us making it known to us ,

In that way (today) the word sabbath a non-time sensitive word It was made into a time sensitive word by the unbelieving Jew that worshiped the shadows in ceremonial laws as a intended sign to the whole world . Some took it as a sign to themselves in false pride and used the ceremonial fast as a way to glory in their own flesh in false hope God might see or they heard on hgh. ..

"sabbath" again non time sensitive word (rest)

Out of all the translations the Young's literal in one place defines the word "sabbaths" correctly

Matthew 28:1 Young's Literal Translation And on the eve of the sabbaths, at the dawn, toward the first of the sabbaths, came Mary the Magdalene, and the other Mary, to see the sepulchre,

Matthew 28 King James Version In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

Limiting the rest that we do have when we hear and do not harden our own hearts to a time period

The word sabbath used 95 times in the new . 11 times translated week .(time sensitive). Young's literal seems to have it once then follow other translators . The word week in the Greek was not even coined when scripture was written in its original autographs.

1 Corinthians 16:2
Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

Luke 18:12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

My undrstanding.

1 Corinthians 16:2 Upon the sabbath (sixth day) let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.( 7th)

The 7th day you share it with the less fortune neighbor .

Luke 18:12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

The luke seems to contradict 1 Corinthians . it should or read I believe . .

Luke 18:12 I fast once in the sabbath the same day I give tithes as a fast

The proper way to be heard on high is honoring the ceremonial sign to the whole world .Give glory to God.

Isaiah 58:4 -7 Behold, ye fast for strife and debate, and to smite with the fist of wickedness: ye shall not fast as ye do this day, to make your voice to be heard on high. Is it such a fast that I have chosen? a day for a man to afflict his soul? is it to bow down his head as a bulrush, and to spread sackcloth and ashes under him? wilt thou call this a fast, and an acceptable day to the Lord?
Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke? Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?

 

[NetChaplain]

It can be trustingly assumed that God's Word would be contained in the right translation, as He would not withhold any of His Words to us. It just has to be plenary first (Mat 4:4), even though the translation isn't perfect, the Word of God within the translation is; this is how God works--using the sinful for good. He uses believers for good, though the "old man" still indwells them!

When people begin to doubt the Word of God concerning plenary inspiration, it reveals misunderstanding, and entreats disuse of the Word. God has relayed all His Word, and there is nothing more and nothing less for Him to show us in this life!

 

[Waggles]

God has relayed all His Word, and there is nothing more and nothing less for Him to show us in this life!

So then why do most Christians have a problem with Mark 16:14-20 ??
And why do most Christians spend much energy on denying the word of God concerning the direct teaching of Jesus
that "these signs shall follow them that believe" ... ??

 

[Rella]

So then why do most Christians have a problem with Mark 16:14-20 ??
And why do most Christians spend much energy on denying the word of God concerning the direct teaching of Jesus
that "these signs shall follow them that believe" ... ??

As to Mark:

Because that is part of the longer ending of Mark which many biblical scholars contend was written by
someone else as an addon.

Early translations has Mark stopping at Mark 16:8

Were Mark 16:9-20 added to the Bible by scribes? Should Mark 16:9-20 be in the Bible?

Were Mark 16:9-20 added to the Bible by scribes? Should Mark 16:9-20 be in the Bible? What are some historical thoughts on Mark 16:9-20?

www.compellingtruth.org

Were Mark 16:9-20 added to the Bible by scribes? Should Mark 16:9-20 be in the Bible?​

In the fourth century, the church fathers Eusebius and Jerome wrote that almost all of the Greek manuscripts available to them at that time lacked the longer ending. This longer ending must have been added early if not original, since Justin Martyr and Tatian both seemed to be aware of Mark's longer ending as early as the second century.

These verses should only be included in the Bible today if they were originally included in Mark's writing of the Gospel. Therefore, the best way to determine whether Mark 16:9-20 should be in the Bible is to investigate whether these verses were in the earliest preserved manuscripts.

The external evidence offers an interesting history to Mark's longer ending. In the fourth century, the church fathers Eusebius and Jerome wrote that almost all of the Greek manuscripts available to them at that time lacked the longer ending. This longer ending must have been added early if not original, since Justin Martyr and Tatian both seemed to be aware of Mark's longer ending as early as the second century. In about 180, Irenaeus included a quotation from Mark 16:19 in Adversus Haereses.

The internal evidence offers an additional line of evidence regarding the ending of Mark. First, the transition between verses 8 and 9 in Greek is considered awkward. Second, the vocabulary changes greatly in the Greek language of verses 9-20. Eighteen words are used in these verses that are not used elsewhere in the Gospel.

Please check the link above for the rest of the commentary.

 

[NetChaplain]

So then why do most Christians have a problem with Mark 16:14-20 ??

Not sure what you mean here.

And why do most Christians spend much energy on denying the word of God concerning the direct teaching of Jesus
that "these signs shall follow them that believe" ... ??

The "signs following" were so that the believers would made to believe because of the signs (Mar 16:20); Jews always required signs (1Co 1:22); but this means less faith when proof is needed. The purpose of the gifts (signs) was to prove that it was the Word of God that was being established.

It was all about the Bible and "confirming the Word," until the Bible was completed. Then God took away the signs so the Bible can confirm itself, now faith can become at its strongest in believers without the signs (if one needs signs their faith is weak and possible absent). Less proof, more faith. Now, the Bible (right Bible) is the only tangible thing we have from God! That's why it's so important to read and study a translation that contains the entire Word (Mat 4:4), but Satan has his way of getting believers to doubt His word by confusing them with these modern translations.

The devil knows he can't do anything to "separate us from the love of God," but he sure can delay their maturity in Christ, so they cannot be used much of God to draw the lost, and strengthen the saved!

 

[NetChaplain]

It’s my understanding that the word “perfect” concerning a translation is mostly in reference to being complete, entire, and plenary. Thus, only translations derived from the majority of extant manuscripts contain all of Word of God (Mat 4:4)! Studying a translation which has much less manuscript evidence cannot affect one’s salvation; but it will affect one’s spiritual growth in the Lord Jesus (Eph 5:14).

 

[Garee]

Not sure what you mean here.

The "signs following" were so that the believers would made to believe because of the signs (Mar 16:20); Jews always required signs (1Co 1:22); but this means less faith when proof is needed. The purpose of the gifts (signs) was to prove that it was the Word of God that was being established.

It was all about the Bible and "confirming the Word," until the Bible was completed. Then God took away the signs so the Bible can confirm itself, now faith can become at its strongest in believers without the signs (if one needs signs their faith is weak and possible absent). Less proof, more faith. Now, the Bible (right Bible) is the only tangible thing we have from God! That's why it's so important to read and study a translation that contains the entire Word (Mat 4:4), but Satan has his way of getting believers to doubt His word by confusing them with these modern translations.

The devil knows he can't do anything to "separate us from the love of God," but he sure can delay their maturity in Christ, so they cannot be used much of God to draw the lost, and strengthen the saved!

Like that of the Chaplain the subject matter.

We should make it our goal to maintain a belief that God continues preserving the integrity of the words of the Bible. Change the meaning of one word it changes the authorship in all the commandments giving them over to dying man as oral traditions . . personal commentaries.. It began in the garden . Did God say ? Surely, you will not die look at my beauty and live forever (the god of this world the god of lust )

(Parentheses). . . . . My added opinion in a hope of supporting plenary inspiration. .

Deuteronomy 4:1-2King James Version4 Now therefore hearken, O Israel, unto the statutes and unto the judgments, which I teach you, for to do them, that ye may live, and go in and possess the land which the Lord God of your fathers giveth you. Ye shall not add unto the word (single) which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, (single)that ye may keep the commandments ( the perfect)of the Lord your God which I command you.

When looking into the signs and wondering or marveling doctrines. I think part of the key is how we use the word "before as beforehand leading towards, and after as following".

Like for instance. Chicago 9 miles ahead Beforehand ad . . . . . . You have just left Chicago city limits. . . .follow after . The sign did not read . . "you are no longer in Kansas ". . click ones heels . . take the next whirlwind South. One leads the other follows you could say the law of faith. "Let there be" and "it was good" that which follows . God's good labor of love called a work of his faith working in the creature.

Satan the god of this world lust eye, lust flesh the false pride builders would put no difference between before and after. as if it was all and the same.

Confirming the unseen word "Let there be" the mark of the goodness of whatsoever God declares is good. and "it was good". That seen came by the power of the unseen eternal God who is not a man as us.

Jesus repeatedly declared its a evil generation "natural unconverted mankind" No God. . out of sight out of mind those that seek after a sign to wonder after? (show me then I will believe they made jesus into a circus seal in the way. . do some magic then when we we see

Prophecy is for believers. No sign was given as to the last day under the sun ..

Signs, a tool for wondering or marveling after the the god (legion) of lying wonders Almighty God it would seem sends them that looks to the wonders of this world a strong delusion in order to preserve the integrity of the word . Preach the new tongue of prophecy in season and out . .It can drive out the lying lips of false apostles. To literal drink poison and believe a person has no change only shows another kind of teaching master .

Signs to the whole world that God can use to draw mankind to the his law as it is writen . the gospel. . . signs are used as metaphors in parables that follow after as that which with Christ spoke in order to keep the integrity of His word (walk by faith according to His labor of love.

(parenthesis my aded opinion as a offering )

Mark16:14-20 Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen. And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; (the gospel) They shall take up serpents; (false apostles) and if they drink any deadly thing,( False prophecy as oral tradition of dying mankind). it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God

Twice the words "shall follow them" not they should seek after them are used to emphasize who to edify or worship or wonder after self-edification ( I did it it proves . . some call Charismatics ) or edify God and take away the need to wonder or marvel in the things not seen . His light would seem to reveal His truth as law

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So then why do most Christians have a problem with Mark 16:14-20 ??
And why do most Christians spend much energy on denying the word of God concerning the direct teaching of Jesus
that "these signs shall follow them that believe" ... ??

'[When Jesus rose
early on the first day of the week,
He appeared first to Mary Magdalene,
out of whom He had driven seven demons.
She went and told those who had been with Him
and who were mourning and weeping.
When they heard that Jesus was alive and that she had seen Him,
they did not believe it.
Afterward Jesus appeared in a different form to two of them
while they were walking in the country.
These returned and reported it to the rest;
but they did not believe them either.
'Later Jesus appeared to the Eleven as they were eating;
He rebuked them for their lack of faith
and their stubborn refusal to believe those
who had seen Him after He had risen.
He said to them,
"Go into all the world
and preach the good news to all creation.
Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved,
but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

And these signs will accompany those who believe:​

In My Name they will drive out demons;​

they will speak in new tongues;​

they will pick up snakes with their hands;​

and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all;​

they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well."​

After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them,
He was taken up into heaven and He sat at the right hand of God.
Then the disciples went out and preached everywhere,
and the Lord worked with them
and confirmed His word by the signs that accompanied it.]
(Mark 16:9 -20)

Hello @Waggles,

Why would this be disputed? For it took place during the Acts period.
Also why should, 'the signs which follow', be denied? For it is a matter of historical record during that period.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

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'[ ... ... ... After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them,
He was taken up into heaven and He sat at the right hand of God.
Then the disciples went out and preached everywhere,
and the Lord worked with them
and confirmed His word
by the signs that accompanied it.]'
(Mark 16:19-20)

Hello @Waggles,

In verse 20 of Mark 16, above, we can see the purpose for, 'the signs', which accompanied the ministry of the twelve during the Acts period. The signs were to, 'confirm His word' . This is indisputable isn't it?

' How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation;
which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord,
and was confirmed unto us by them that heard Him;
God also bearing them witness,
both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles,
and gifts of the Holy Ghost,
according to His Own will?
(Heb 2:3-4)

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

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Subject Heading:- 'Bible Problem'

There is no problem with the written word of God: when read under the instruction of the Holy Spirit, with Christ Jesus our risen Lord, the Living Word, as our Saviour and Lord.
It was written for our learning, and therefore is intended to be understood. The problem, as the OP says, is in the multiplicity of versions produced.

I use the KJV because I am used to it, but break it down into bite size pieces so that I can take in and fully absorb what is written, and don't miss anything of importance. I find the difficulty introduced by a wording that is from a previous time, makes the necessity for greater concentration a spur, and a tool, to take my time in order to fully understand it. We have concordances and Bible dictionaries, also the Greek and Hebrew Interlinear Bibles on hand online now, so that nobody can say that they do not have the necessary resources to search out the meaning of words. Yet, even with all of these study helps, the best means of knowing the meaning the Holy Spirit intends in any passage, is by comparing the usage of words, within the Scriptures themselves, for then we have the Holy Spirit's usage as our guide and not that of man.

Thank you, @NetChaplain for your OP.
In Christ Jesus
our risen and glorified
Saviour, Lord and Head.
Chris

 

[NetChaplain]

It’s my understanding that the word “perfect” concerning a translation is mostly in reference to being complete, entire, and plenary. Thus, only translations derived from the majority of extant manuscripts contain all of Word of God (Mat 4:4)! Studying a translation which has much less manuscript evidence cannot affect one’s salvation; but it will affect one’s spiritual growth in the Lord Jesus (Eph 5:14).

 

[NetChaplain]

It can be trustingly assumed that God's Word would be contained in the right translation, as He would not withhold any of His Words to us. It just has to be plenary first (Mat 4:4), even though the translation isn't perfect; this is how God works--using the sinful for good. He uses believers for good, though the "old man" still indwells them!

When people begin to doubt the Word of God concerning plenary inspiration, it reveals misunderstanding, and entreats disuse of the Word. God has relayed all His Word, and there is nothing more and nothing less for Him to show us in this life!

 

[Garee]

It’s my understanding that the word “perfect” concerning a translation is mostly in reference to being complete, entire, and plenary. Thus, only translations derived from the majority of extant manuscripts contain all of Word of God (Mat 4:4)! Studying a translation which has much less manuscript evidence cannot affect one’s salvation; but it will affect one’s spiritual growth in the Lord Jesus (Eph 5:14).

Thanks well said. It would seem to speak of the perfect to come ( sola scriptura) the book of prophecy the whole book of law.. not a book of philosophical theories.

1 Corinthians 13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

In that way it is the perfect that came and warned not to add or subtract but rightfully divide as a way interpreting the whole .

 

[Waggles]

And yet pretty well all popular Bible versions teach us what we need to do to be saved
in the sense of believing the gospel of repentance and walking on in righteousness in the power of our indwelling God

Acts 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto *Peter and the rest of the apostles, [Men] Brethren, what shall we do?
38 And Peter said unto them, Repent and be baptized each of you in the name of Jesus Christ unto remission of your *sins; and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
39 For to you is the promise, and to your *children, and to all that are afar off, as many as the Lord our *God shall call unto him.

Hebrews 6:1 Wherefore leaving the word of the beginning of the Christ, let us be borne on unto the perfection; not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works,
and of faith toward God,-
2 the teaching of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

And yet pretty well all popular Bible versions teach us what we need to do to be saved
in the sense of believing the gospel of repentance and walking on in righteousness in the power of our indwelling God

Now a certain ruler asked Him, saying, “Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?” So Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. 20 You know the commandments: ‘Do not commit adultery,’ ‘Do not murder,’ ‘Do not steal,’ ‘Do not bear false witness,’ ‘Honor your father and your mother.’ ”And he said, “All these things I have kept from my youth.”So when Jesus heard these things, He said to him, “You still lack one thing. Sell all that you have and distribute to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.”But when he heard this, he became very sorrowful, for he was very rich. - Luke 18:18-23

Behold, a certain lawyer stood up and tested Him, saying, “Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?”He said to him, “What is written in the law? What is your reading of it?”So he answered and said, “ ‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind,’ and ‘your neighbor as yourself.’ ”And He said to him, “You have answered rightly; do this and you will live.” Luke 10:25-28

 

[Garee]

And yet pretty well all popular Bible versions teach us what we need to do to be saved
in the sense of believing the gospel of repentance and walking on in righteousness in the power of our indwelling God

Acts 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto *Peter and the rest of the apostles, [Men] Brethren, what shall we do?
38 And Peter said unto them, Repent and be baptized each of you in the name of Jesus Christ unto remission of your *sins; and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
39 For to you is the promise, and to your *children, and to all that are afar off, as many as the Lord our *God shall call unto him.

Hebrews 6:1 Wherefore leaving the word of the beginning of the Christ, let us be borne on unto the perfection; not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works,
and of faith toward God,-
2 the teaching of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

God moves us to represent His power by pouring out His Spirit making our hearts soft called a labor of His love or work of his faith (power)

Yes Hebrew 6:1 do not offer signs and lying wonders as dead works . . no faith coming from God. . . not little none.

Faith as a unseen law "let there be " and "it was good"

The apostles could lay their hands a "form of prayer" just like folding hands on those empowered to both hear and perform the good pleasure of our Father .

But then the unbelievers (no faith) having received a strong delusion to continue to believe the lie Making the apostles into Greek gods in the likeness of men .God is not served by the dying hands as a will of mankind He can use an Ass which represents unbelief no faith .

The Charismatic doctrine. I did it . . see for yourself I did it. It is is not a commandment or doctrine of God but is clearly a oral tradition of faithless men

Preaching the gospel is the power of God unto salvation .Not the power of the powerless apostles .Christ unseen does the teaching and bringing to our memory the previous things.

Acts 14:7-10 And there they preached the gospel. And there sat a certain man at Lystra, impotent in his feet, being a cripple from his mother's womb, who never had walked:

Walk is used throughout the bible to indicate two walking in agreement an understanding. It was first used in the garden when God cut off the means of walking with the serpent .No longer could lucifer deceive mankind to follow his voice the voice of the temporal His apostles' how beautifully are their feet shod with the gospel of peace. He was cut off from the council of God.


We can understand by the invisible things of God which is not the same as the literal what the eyes see, dying flesh .. . . . . . . the temporal


Acts 14:11-12 And when the people saw what Paul had done, they lifted up their voices, saying in the speech of Lycaonia, The gods are come down to us in the likeness of men. And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker.
Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people.

It defines blasphemy taking that power that belongs to God alone and giving it over to those who do not walk by faith signs and wonder seekers and not prophecy as it is written

2 Corinthians 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)

Interestingly looking at Acts 14. The father of lies the counterfeiter attempts to duplicates the integrity of God to the law and the prophets (sola scriptura) .With the law representing Moses as if he was our unseen Father as Lord of lords (Jupiter) and Paul as Aaron as mercurius. . the preacher priest priesthood of believers .

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.

We must be careful how we hear or say we hear the understanding of God. .

Satan turns it upside down earthly inspired. In efect saying. . . If I touch your dying flesh with mine then I have proof I did it. Like in . . why walk by faith after the eternal things of God ???