Christian Crusaders

[amadeus2]

Hello again, old friend!

Priorities to be sure, ignoring the physical, and the needs of it, is likewise foolish.

We can express very well with words what our priorities should be but still when it comes down to a real case we may miss the mark because our heart was misdirected in that moment.

This is the problem with presenting hypothetical situations. The rules (613?) God gave to Moses were black and white yet even in the OT God was looking for something better in a man's heart. This is why we can read the histories of King Saul and King David in scripture and see that both of them committed offences worthy of death under that written law. Yet, David was forgiven his worst transgressions while Saul was rejected by God. There you see the Spirit of Christ in the OT even as you see it when he did not condemn the adulterous woman.

Why did David eat the showbread? He took that which was holy and profaned it to ease hunger in both himself and his men. And yet God found no fault with him in this. There is some on this thread who cannot understand the teaching of that. The two greatest commandments are to love the Lord AND to love your neighbor as yourself. If you are only trying to do the first, you automatically fail at the first greatest commandment. Martha was also quicker to believe in Christ in the resurrection than was Mary. Would you ignore that?

"And Paul also wrote, For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" Rom 3:23

The examples of people are given to us to show that even people who pleased God made mistakes. We have made mistakes, but does that excuse us to make more mistakes when they can be avoided? I would say not. Jesus did not condemn the adulterous woman, but he did tell her, "...go, and sin no more." John 8:11

The examples of people are there for us, but let us not make them out to be black and white rules that apply in every case as to what is right and what is wrong. Paul also wrote:

"For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise." II Cor 10:12

 

[Brad Huber]

Hello John and Sue. I dont advocate christians killing people, and I agree we should be doing our best to show them the love of Christ, but neither do I think we should try to promote that christians should never defend themselves. I dont intend to argue about the matter anymore. If you cant see the truth of it, then you simply cannot. And yes Sue, I understand the pressure that is put upon christians more and more each day, attacking their faith and their character, but I am not afraid of persecution, its already happening all over the world, just less so here in the US. Greater persecution of the US church would probably be the best thing that has happened to it in some time, making the tares seperate themselves from the wheat, for fear of being attacked. Persecution only made the early church even stronger. But I would not encourage christians to attack others to bring it about quicker.

 

[Sue J Love]

Hello John and Sue. I dont advocate christians killing people, and I agree we should be doing our best to show them the love of Christ, but neither do I think we should try to promote that christians should never defend themselves. I dont intend to argue about the matter anymore. If you cant see the truth of it, then you simply cannot. And yes Sue, I understand the pressure that is put upon christians more and more each day, attacking their faith and their character, but I am not afraid of persecution, its already happening all over the world, just less so here in the US. Greater persecution of the US church would probably be the best thing that has happened to it in some time, making the tares seperate themselves from the wheat, for fear of being attacked. Persecution only made the early church even stronger. But I would not encourage christians to attack others to bring it about quicker.

Thank you Brad. I am not afraid of persecution, either, and I agree with you that it is what the church in America needs. The true church needs to come out from the world and be separate. Right now there is not a distinguishable difference between the church and the world in a large percentage of what is called church here in America. The church in America needs to be revived, and I do believe it will come about via persecution, and that it is inevitable that this is now coming to America. We can see it coming. It is just one sign of the soon return of our Lord.

 

[amadeus2]

Hello John and Sue. I dont advocate christians killing people, and I agree we should be doing our best to show them the love of Christ, but neither do I think we should try to promote that christians should never defend themselves.

I don't disagree with you here Brad. What I do advocate is that his sheep listen for and hear the voice of Jesus. If they are not listening they cannot know what God's will is for them in any given situation. God will provide what we need when we need it if we are standing on His side.

Greater persecution of the US church would probably be the best thing that has happened to it in some time, making the tares seperate themselves from the wheat, for fear of being attacked. Persecution only made the early church even stronger. But I would not encourage christians to attack others to bring it about quicker.

These words brought a smile to my face. It seems that persecution is needed. Well there is no doubt that we will get what we need. The best thing is yet to come.

 

[amadeus2]

Thank you Brad. I am not afraid of persecution, either, and I agree with you that it is what the church in America needs. The true church needs to come out from the world and be separate. Right now there is not a distinguishable difference between the church and the world in a large percentage of what is called church here in America. The church in America needs to be revived, and I do believe it will come about via persecution, and that it is inevitable that this is now coming to America. We can see it coming. It is just one sign of the soon return of our Lord.

And when this persecution comes, then God's people will really be separated and seen, for many who bear the label Christian will likely not initially suffer this persecution because they will deny their faith rather than suffer.

 

[Sue J Love]

And when this persecution comes, then God's people will really be separated and seen, for many who bear the label Christian will likely not initially suffer this persecution because they will deny their faith rather than suffer.

That is very possible.

 

[Sue J Love]

Hello John and Sue. I dont advocate christians killing people, and I agree we should be doing our best to show them the love of Christ, but neither do I think we should try to promote that christians should never defend themselves. I dont intend to argue about the matter anymore. If you cant see the truth of it, then you simply cannot. And yes Sue, I understand the pressure that is put upon christians more and more each day, attacking their faith and their character, but I am not afraid of persecution, its already happening all over the world, just less so here in the US. Greater persecution of the US church would probably be the best thing that has happened to it in some time, making the tares seperate themselves from the wheat, for fear of being attacked. Persecution only made the early church even stronger. But I would not encourage christians to attack others to bring it about quicker.

@Brad Huber - Could you help me out here by explaining to me how to alternate quotes, i.e. like you did with the conversation between us where you quoted something I said, and then you responded, and then you quoted what I said, and then you responded, et al? I don't know how to do that. I don't even see a quote function at the top for putting things in quotes, like used to be there before they went to the new format. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! Anyone can respond to this who knows the answer. Thanks.

 

[Brad Huber]

@Brad Huber - Could you help me out here by explaining to me how to alternate quotes, i.e. like you did with the conversation between us where you quoted something I said, and then you responded, and then you quoted what I said, and then you responded, et al? I don't know how to do that. I don't even see a quote function at the top for putting things in quotes, like used to be there before they went to the new format. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! Anyone can respond to this who knows the answer. Thanks.

Hello Sue, there may be several ways, but I do it the following way....

1. reply to a specific post where you see the quote you are replying to.
2. when you find a spot that you want a break to insert your own reply, insert a couple of empty lines after that spot.
3. type [ / quote ] at the end of the text before your two line break, without the spaces between, this is the end quoting indicator.
4. type your reply to that portion before your two line break, then just before the next portion of the original posters text, type [ quote ] without the spaces. This is the beginning quote indicator.
5. Whenever you want another break to speak to a specific topic later on, do just the same thing, inserting a couple of lines, a ending quote indicator just before the two blank lines, and then a beginning post indicator just after your reply to that portion.
6. Until you get experienced at it, use the preview button to see if you got it right.

 

[Sue J Love]

Hello Sue, there may be several ways, but I do it the following way....

1. reply to a specific post where you see the quote you are replying to.
2. when you find a spot that you want a break to insert your own reply, insert a couple of empty lines after that spot.
3. type [ / quote ] at the end of the text before your two line break, without the spaces between, this is the end quoting indicator.
4. type your reply to that portion before your two line break, then just before the next portion of the original posters text, type [ quote ] without the spaces. This is the beginning quote indicator.
5. Whenever you want another break to speak to a specific topic later on, do just the same thing, inserting a couple of lines, a ending quote indicator just before the two blank lines, and then a beginning post indicator just after your reply to that portion.
6. Until you get experienced at it, use the preview button to see if you got it right.

Thank you. That helps. I liked it when they had a quote function button at the top. I don't know why they took that away in the new format. Other sites use this same format and have the same issue. So, usually when I want to show a quote I just italicize the section and then indent it to separate it from the rest of the text. I will do what you suggested. I appreciate you taking the time to explain to me how this works. Sue

 

[Christ4Ever]

@Sue J Love

I noticed that you asked Brother Brad a question on multi-posting. I hope the following will be helpful and not too long in following! You can use this for not only quoting one persons' post multiple times but as many different postings from different people as well.

Let me know if this works for you and any critiques would be appreciated! Might be useful for others who have questions on how to as well!
YBIC
C4E
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Let's see if I can show you how to quote a portion of a post or even multi-quote sections of a post. I'll see about getting screen shots to do so.

Let's say we use the one you asked Brother Brad about doing this as the initial screen. Complete post.

After determining the post you want to multi-quote. Click on "Quote". This will allow you to multi-quote a post or multiple posts if you'd like. I'll try to show by pictures how it should look like. Sadly I don't have a program that will record my actions as I go through them as a video.

You should see the following pop up at the top of your screen for a couple of seconds and then it will go away. If you click on the "QUOTE" again, you'll see the second one pop up for also a couple of seconds and go away.

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2 -

Now to begin quoting some lines of text. You have just clicked "QUOTE" and have seen #1 above message flash at the top of your screen. The rest is really easy to do. All you have to do is highlight the text you want to quote by using your mouse. Left click at the beginning of the text and pull the mouse over to the last word of text you want quoted. Like below.

All you have to do now is click on the "+Quote". The highlighted area will go away and a quick message at the top will appear and disappear.

3 -

Continue to highlight the text that you want to quote, click "+Quote" and continue this until you've quoted all the parts of the post that you want to answer to. You can also quote other postings as well. It doesn't have to be from the same person, but it can be. You can even quote yourself from other postings you've done!! I'll quote one from the post I've been using and another using the same actions "highlight and click +Quote".

You then will go to the bottom of the page in the "Reply Block" and will see on left side what says "Insert Quotes" See the below clip shot.

Now all you have to do is click on "Insert Quotes". The neat part will happen next. A new screen will pop up and will look as follows for the actions I've done.

As you can see the option to remove particular quotes or cancel all together is also available to you.
I'll select "Quote These Messages" and let's see what we get within the reply block at the bottom of the page.

This is now ready for you to add text below each quoted part of the post (Highlighted in yellow or right after the "[/QUOTE]" and once done click "Post Reply" or "More Options" which will allows you to do like "Preview..." does, but with editing ability.

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[Sue J Love]

@Christ4Ever - Thank you. I have been battling a sinus headache today, so this is a little much for me to take in this evening, but I will look at it again tomorrow. I appreciate you taking the time to help me out on this. Sue

 

[Christ4Ever]

@Sue J Love
I know how difficult it is to focus when you feel that way. It's almost like you think the only way you'll feel better is if your head were to explode to release the pressure. I will make sure to mention you in my prayers for relief/healing.
YBIC
Nick
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[TheWidowsOffering]

Thanks Bro. C4E for the detailed instruction. It will help me a lot in the future .

Blessings...

 

[Christ4Ever]

@TheWidowsOffering
Anytime. Glad to be of service sis.
Blessings to you as well.
YBIC
C4E
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[Sue J Love]

@Sue J Love
I know how difficult it is to focus when you feel that way. It's almost like you think the only way you'll feel better is if your head were to explode to release the pressure. I will make sure to mention you in my prayers for relief/healing.
YBIC
Nick
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Thank you. I did read back over your instructions later in the day on Saturday, along with my husband, and it made sense. My brain has been a little scrambled the past few days. I think maybe I have a bug of some kind. No fever, but headaches, dizziness, stomach upset, body aches and pains and sleeping lots, which is unusual for me. Yet, God is my great physician, so I trust him to restore health to my body. Thank you for your prayers and for your help.