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It's Joseph's ancestry that the gospel writers are interested in, not Mary's.

Perhaps , but let me throw another wrench in the pile here. The kingship of the Jews went through the male line. David and Solomon were Kings of Israel, however Nathan was never a King.
Yet the Bible prophesies in a number of places that the Messiah will be king of Jews though the throne of David. ( I can post them later if necessary ). We see that Eli was a descendant of Solomon,
but Jacob was a descendant of Nathan. So then, does that mean that Joseph had to be a descendant of Solomon? Not necessarily. There was a "loophole" in the law that allowed for heir-ship to be passed
through women, if there was no male heir. How could Jesus be heir to the throne, if Joseph wasn't His biological father, but Mary was His biological mother?

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Can Jesus Be the Messiah If He Is Not Solomon’s Biological Descendant? | Redemption of Humanity

In the Bible, the Messiah is prophesied to be a descendant of King David. Thus, Jesus did not have to come directly from Solomon's lineage.

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This would allow the "kingship" line to be passed through Mary. That's why Mary's lineage would be important.

How was Jesus from the line of King David if his real father was not Joseph?

Q. How does the genealogy of Christ work? Because if this is recorded in a patriarchal society, this is the line of Joseph, right? Doesn’t that mean none of this genealogy actually flows thro…

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Back to my original point. It's very interesting that Luke says Jesus was the "supposed" son of Joseph ( because He wasn't the biological son of Joseph ) and Luke says Joseph was the "supposed" son of Eli ( likely
because he wasn't the biological son ) of Eli, but the legal 'son-in-law'. But Matthew on the other hand, doesn't say Joseph was the supposed son of Jacob, it simply says he was the son of Jacob. As if it's just a fact.

 

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21) In the centuries leading up to Jesus' time, the land of Israel was conquered by
Nebuchadnezzar whereby Jerusalem and the Temple were destroyed, and many of
the people were taken into slavery for a period of seventy years.

During his years in slavery, the prophet Daniel predicted the people would return
and rebuild Jerusalem and the Temple; but not for keeps. The day would come
when the city and the Temple would once again be destroyed; which they were in
70 AD by Titus. (This is all too much to explain in detail so I'm just painting the
broad strokes.)

Daniel also predicted that David's ultimate successor would show up and then be
taken away before Titus destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple; which means that
Israel's long-awaited king has been here once before already.

Some of the Jews in Jesus' day were under the impression that their king was
supposed to be immortal (John 12:34) but Daniel predicted their king would not be
immortal. (Dan 9:26) That error in their thinking has led quite a few Jews even in
our time to dismiss Jesus as David's ultimate successor.

● John 7:31 . .When the Christ comes, will he do more miraculous signs than this
man?

Torah-trained Jews circumvent that question by citing Deut 13:1-5 which says, in
so many words, that miracles are no guarantee that a prophet is working together
with God. In point of fact, some of Israel's top spiritual counselors were convinced
Jesus was trying to mislead the people with his miracles.

I kind of sympathize with their doubts because some of the things Jesus claimed
about himself were very much on a level of madness the likes of Jim Jones, David
Koresh, Sun Myung Moon, Charles Manson, Mary Baker Eddy, Joseph Smith, L. Ron
Hubbard, Muhammad, Ellen G White, and Charles Taze Russel, et al.

But still; the fact remains that according to Daniel, the Jews' king has been here
once before already. So if it wasn't Jesus, then who else from that era might be a
likely candidate for us to consider?
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[Beetow]

22) A curse back in the Old Testament, leveled at a really bad king in Solomon's
royal line to David's throne, reads like this:

● Jer 22:29-30 . . O land, land, land, hear the word of The Lord! Thus said The
Lord: Record this man as without succession, one who shall never be found
acceptable; for no man of his offspring shall be accepted to sit on the throne of
David and to rule again in Judah.

The bad king's name was Jeconiah (a.k.a. Jehoiakim, a.k.a. Coniah). Jesus' dad
Joseph was one of his descendants. (Matt 1:11)

It's commonly believed that the curse extended to Joseph, so that had he been
Jesus' biological father, it would have prevented Mary's boy from ascending David's
throne.

However, Joseph adopted Jesus and seeing as how adopted children inherit from
their fathers the same as biological children; then had the curse extended to
Joseph, it would have extended to Jesus too whether he was virgin-conceived or
not. In other words: seeing as how Jesus got into Solomon's royal line by adoption,
then of course he would've got into the curse too because the throne and the curse
were a package deal.

However; the wording "to rule again in Judah" indicates that the curse on
Jeconiah's royal posterity was limited to the era of the divided kingdom with
Samaria in the north and Judah in the south. That situation came to an end when
Nebuchadnezzar crushed the whole country and led first Samaria, and then later
Judah, off to Babylonian slavery.

When David's ultimate successor reigns, the country of Israel will be unified. His
jurisdiction won't be limited to Judah within a divided kingdom, but will dominate
the entire land of Israel. So the curse doesn't apply to him.

● Ezek 37:21-22 . .You shall declare to them: Thus said the Lord God: I am going
to take the Israelite people from among the nations they have gone to, and gather
them from every quarter, and bring them to their own land. I will make them a
single nation in the land, on the hills of Israel, and one king shall be king of them
all. Never again shall they be two nations, and never again shall they be divided
into two kingdoms.
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