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[Christ4Ever]

@jcfor
If it was only the name and not the personage of Jesus Christ then His Aramaic name would be used.

So, in part you are correct, but in the most important and necessary part you come up short. What seems to be missing is that God manifested Himself in the person of Jesus Christ, without any separate personality that has the taint of sin. Unlike the rest of humanity since the fall. Anything less and you give credence to what the Worldly religions say He can only be. Which is prophet, enlightened man, demon, crazy, non-existent.

What stands out in Jesus Christ which may not seem of great import to what you have so far shared with us here at Talk Jesus, is, but, not limited to his life, death on the Cross, resurrection, and ascension to name but a few. Without such there is no Gospel. Add, the convincing prophecies found in the OT that can only fit one, Jesus, and our Lord and Savior, King of Kings, Great Lion of Judea, and His Names go on and on. I can only say Alleluia, Alleluia, Alleluia!

If this cannot be the foundation of the Christ you share here. It truly might be the best for everyone if you took it upon yourself to no longer post here at Talk Jesus and have your account closed. No one here has a desire to be combative. We desire nothing more than to share the love of Christ Jesus and break bread with you. However, I realize by reading what you have written here that more than likely this cannot be.

So, with His love and in mind of the Sacrifice on the Cross for the unworthiness that we are. Know that we have no animosity towards you and desire only God’s Grace and Mercy to follow you in whatever path He chooses you to walk upon.

Your Servant in Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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[jcforever]

@jcfor
If it was only the name and not the personage of Jesus Christ then His Aramaic name would be used.

So, in part you are correct, but in the most important and necessary part you come up short. What seems to be missing is that God manifested Himself in the person of Jesus Christ, without any separate personality that has the taint of sin. Unlike the rest of humanity since the fall. Anything less and you give credence to what the Worldly religions say He can only be. Which is prophet, enlightened man, demon, crazy, non-existent.

What stands out in Jesus Christ which may not seem of great import to what you have so far shared with us here at Talk Jesus, is, but, not limited to his life, death on the Cross, resurrection, and ascension to name but a few. Without such there is no Gospel. Add, the convincing prophecies found in the OT that can only fit one, Jesus, and our Lord and Savior, King of Kings, Great Lion of Judea, and His Names go on and on. I can only say Alleluia, Alleluia, Alleluia!

If this cannot be the foundation of the Christ you share here. It truly might be the best for everyone if you took it upon yourself to no longer post here at Talk Jesus and have your account closed. No one here has a desire to be combative. We desire nothing more than to share the love of Christ Jesus and break bread with you. However, I realize by reading what you have written here that more than likely this cannot be.

So, with His love and in mind of the Sacrifice on the Cross for the unworthiness that we are. Know that we have no animosity towards you and desire only God’s Grace and Mercy to follow you in whatever path He chooses you to walk upon.

Your Servant in Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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God manifested himself in all the servants called prophets and saints. He does this in the mind called the consciousness. God has a voice that can speak commands directly in our minds which started speaking into my mind in 1979. I had to obey all His commands to get me to confess and repent of every sin I ever committed. This is how God stops Satan and the beast from controlling our mind and body before he uses our mind and body for His purpose to testify to the knowledge called Christ.

The gospel of God is not about Jesus dying on the cross for the sins of man and then his body resurrecting up into heaven. The body dies and goes back to the dust of the earth because there is no place called heaven. Heaven is the invisible waves that contain the thoughts of our Creator and in this heaven, there is Satan and the beast that is used to form all the good and evil images within the individual minds of men. Satan and the beast will be destroyed on the day of the Lord and all that's left is Christ, the pure thoughts of our Creator without Satan and the beast. This is the New Heaven that will form a New Earth, new bodies for created man and many new images for man to experience life with.

The gospel of God is the voice of God that is heard in the minds of men. Abraham heard God preach the gospel into his mind too;

Galations 3
8: And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, "In you shall all the nations be blessed."

God can produce an image of his servant to observe while He's speaking words directly in his mind. He had Moses observe a burning bush while God was speaking into his mind to get Moses to focus on what he was saying.

You have never heard the voice of God speaking commands into your mind so you have no idea what that's like, especially if he puts your body to the ground while working on it and speaking commands or giving you visions of all the sins you were committing against other people or even your own body. You have no idea how much pain we servants have to endure while God is working on destroying the works of Satan and the beast in us before He can take over our minds with the thoughts of Christ and control our bodies.

Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were not written by any of God's servants. They were written and produced by false prophets who had used stolen words from God's servants and mixed them with their Jewish and pagan traditions and doctrines. This is why Christians practice the tradition of water baptism that has nothing to do with anyone's salvation. Getting water baptized was Satan's way of having the Jews try wash away their sins. They learned they could not obey the Ten Commandments to Satan gave them all kinds of different religious practices to make them feel better about themselves. This was all planned out by our Creator to keep most created men deceived with Satan while He's using the beast to get them to build false gods with their human hands.

Most of the Jews rejected the gospel of God that Jesus, Peter, Timothy, Stephen, Paul and all the other servants preached because they did not want to hear about the beast that caused them to build false gods that God had told them not to build according to what He had the prophets write hundreds of years earlier. They hated hearing the gospel of God and now most Christians hate hearing the gospel of God preached by me, the last servant to testify to the knowledge called Christ to end the millennium reign of Christ.

If you don't believe the words that I'm typing in here are coming from our Father in heaven, it was meant to be. You will hear the voice of God after your flesh perishes as promised;

John 5:
25: "Truly, truly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live.
26: For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself,
27: and has given him authority to execute judgment, because he is the Son of man.
28: Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice.

 

[Christ4Ever]

You are aware of this already but it needs to be brought to the light of day.

You denigrate the very gospels you use to support what you believe to be true. If it points out a weakness or falsehood of your words it is something other's in the past have contrived with the devil to make false.

If not that. Then it points to lack of understanding on the part of the receiver though they be Holy Spirit filled.

I realize that it must be that way with you. For to doubt even one dot or comma is damnation to you.

Yet, it would be remiss of me to not tell you that in Christ Jesus there is rest. By His Grace you are Saved least any man boast.

For you know that no matter how much you try and do. If He has not drawn you to Him......

Please adhere to my request. For there is no justification to be found here. Just Grace through Christ Jesus as the way.

With the love of Christ Jesus.
Nick
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[Sue J Love]

@jcforever - Know that this is what the Word of God teaches with regard to those who teach another gospel and another Jesus (another Christ) other than the one taught by Jesus the Christ, and the Holy Spirit, and by Jesus' NT apostles, and know, too, what God's Word teaches with regard to those who welcome those who teach a false gospel (heretical), especially with regard to those who deny Jesus the Christ as our only Lord and Savior and Messiah, his having come in the flesh, his death on a cross for our sins, his bodily resurrection, and that he is the ONLY way to God and heaven:

Galatians 1:8-9: But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God's curse!

2 Corinthians 11:2-4: I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. I promised you to one husband, to Christ, so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him. But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.

2 John 1:9-11: Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them. Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work.

 

[B-A-C]

The son of God is Christ, the pure invisible thoughts of our Creator that is converted into eternal life for all created men. Christ is not the name of one servant named Jesus, Peter, Timothy, Paul, Moses, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, etc. You worship a dead image instead of our Father in heaven in which Christ exists. Christ will be used to form a new earth in the minds of created men and a new heaven without Satan and the beast around to deceive men. The Messiah you are referring to is the Holy Spirit of God, another name for Christ.

John 14
23: Jesus answered him, "If a man loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him.
24: He who does not love me does not keep my words; and the word which you hear is not mine but the Father's who sent me.
25: "These things I have spoken to you, while I am still with you.
26: But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.

The Christ I worship is far from dead. In fact death has no hold Him at all. He conquered death.
He sits at the right hand of the Father, so you are correct in saying He is in heaven. I see no scripture in the Bible that says the Holy Spirit is the Messiah.
The Holy Spirit never died for my sins (or anyone elses).

1 Jn 4:1; Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
1 Jn 4:2; By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God;
1 Jn 4:3; and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world.

John 1:1; In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:2; He was in the beginning with God.
John 1:3; All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.

John 1:14; And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.

Acts 4:11; He is the stone which was rejected by you, the builders, but which became the chief corner stone.
Acts 4:12; And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.”

 

[jcforever]

You are aware of this already but it needs to be brought to the light of day.

You denigrate the very gospels you use to support what you believe to be true. If it points out a weakness or falsehood of your words it is something other's in the past have contrived with the devil to make false.

If not that. Then it points to lack of understanding on the part of the receiver though they be Holy Spirit filled.

I realize that it must be that way with you. For to doubt even one dot or comma is damnation to you.

Yet, it would be remiss of me to not tell you that in Christ Jesus there is rest. By His Grace you are Saved least any man boast.

For you know that no matter how much you try and do. If He has not drawn you to Him......

Please adhere to my request. For there is no justification to be found here. Just Grace through Christ Jesus as the way.

With the love of Christ Jesus.
Nick
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I don't listen to Satan or the beast anymore now that I possess the mind of Christ. You're request will not be granted by our Father in heaven.

 

[jcforever]

@jcforever - Know that this is what the Word of God teaches with regard to those who teach another gospel and another Jesus (another Christ) other than the one taught by Jesus the Christ, and the Holy Spirit, and by Jesus' NT apostles, and know, too, what God's Word teaches with regard to those who welcome those who teach a false gospel (heretical), especially with regard to those who deny Jesus the Christ as our only Lord and Savior and Messiah, his having come in the flesh, his death on a cross for our sins, his bodily resurrection, and that he is the ONLY way to God and heaven:

Galatians 1:8-9: But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God's curse!

2 Corinthians 11:2-4: I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. I promised you to one husband, to Christ, so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him. But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.

2 John 1:9-11: Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them. Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work.

The gospel of God is what Jesus, Peter, Timothy, Paul, me and all the rest of the servants preached during this millennium reign of Christ. Now that the end of the reign of Christ has finally revealed exactly what the tree of life is and how it was created, we wait for the day of the Lord to kill all the inhabitants on earth who are possessed by Satan and who worship the beast.

 

[jcforever]

The Christ I worship is far from dead. In fact death has no hold Him at all. He conquered death.
He sits at the right hand of the Father, so you are correct in saying He is in heaven. I see no scripture in the Bible that says the Holy Spirit is the Messiah.
The Holy Spirit never died for my sins (or anyone elses).

1 Jn 4:1; Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
1 Jn 4:2; By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God;
1 Jn 4:3; and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world.

John 1:1; In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:2; He was in the beginning with God.
John 1:3; All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.

John 1:14; And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.

Acts 4:11; He is the stone which was rejected by you, the builders, but which became the chief corner stone.
Acts 4:12; And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.”

You lack the knowledge of Christ because you were never used by God as one of His servants who testify to His knowledge called Christ during this millennium reign of Christ. Not even God's chosen disciple's possess the mind of Christ like us servants do. They are only meant to listen to His voice and believe the word of the Lord we preach to them. Some listen to the gospel I preach to them but they are concerned about all the religious traditions and pagan doctrines that have been taught to them by Satan and the beast. Other's listen to the gospel of God and receive 30, 60 and a few understand 100%.

All you have are words in a Bible to read and study. We servants of God listen to His voice and obey ALL His commandments to prepare us before being used for His purpose to testify to His knowledge called Christ. We receive the mind of Christ and learn that our Father and us are one.

 

[Christ4Ever]

I don't listen to Satan or the beast anymore now that I possess the mind of Christ. You're request will not be granted by our Father in heaven.

Why not?

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Nick
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[jcforever]

Why not?

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Nick
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Because God and His servant don't obey Satan and the beast. The reason God has planned to destroy Satan, the beast and all the flesh of man is because they are the deceivers of all created men born in the image of God which is invisible.

 

[Christ4Ever]

Because God and His servant don't obey Satan and the beast. The reason God has planned to destroy Satan, the beast and all the flesh of man is because they are the deceivers of all created men born in the image of God which is invisible.

Thank-you for answer. Quite clear.

Would God not provide you knowledge so you would not appear to be less than what you profess to be, but rather appear as a deceiver/deceived since you only speak His words?

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Nick
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[Chad]

They are not real. What I mean by not being real is that our bodies are not made of material things called matter.

This is absurd. Don't post nonsense like this.

 

[jcforever]

Thank-you for answer. Quite clear.

Would God not provide you knowledge so you would not appear to be less than what you profess to be, but rather appear as a deceiver/deceived since you only speak His words?

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Nick
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If you have never heard the voice of the Lord speak commands directly into your mind, then you have no way of knowing what the truth is.

 

[jcforever]

This is absurd. Don't post nonsense like this.

It's only absurd to those who do not listen to the voice of the Lord and obey all his commandments. Those of us who did, learn what the truth is.

Isaiah 43
1: But now thus says the LORD, he who created you, O Jacob, he who formed you, O Israel: "Fear not, for I have redeemed you; I have called you by name, you are mine.
2: When you pass through the waters I will be with you; and through the rivers, they shall not overwhelm you; when you walk through fire you shall not be burned, and the flame shall not consume you.

How could our visible bodies be real if water and fire doesn't destroy our created image in God?

After all the flesh of man have perished, all created men will continue on to the next generation and get new bodies on a new earth.

I Corinthians 3:
13: each man's work will become manifest; for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done.
14: If the work which any man has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward.
15: If any man's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.

2 Peter 3
10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a loud noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and the works that are upon it will be burned up.


Isaiah 66
15: "For behold, the LORD will come in fire, and his chariots like the stormwind, to render his anger in fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
16: For by fire will the LORD execute judgment, and by his sword, upon all flesh; and those slain by the LORD shall be many.

Zephaniah 1
18: Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them on the day of the wrath of the LORD. In the fire of his jealous wrath, all the earth shall be consumed; for a full, yea, sudden end he will make of all the inhabitants of the earth.

Isaiah 65
16: So that he who blesses himself in the land shall bless himself by the God of truth, and he who takes an oath in the land shall swear by the God of truth; because the former troubles are forgotten and are hid from my eyes.
17: "For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth; and the former things shall not be remembered or come into mind.
18: But be glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create; for behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.
19: I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and be glad in my people; no more shall be heard in it the sound of weeping and the cry of distress.

Revelation 21
1: Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more.
2: And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband;
3: and I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Behold, the dwelling of God is with men. He will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself will be with them;
4: he will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning nor crying nor pain any more, for the former things have passed away."
5: And he who sat upon the throne said, "Behold, I make all things new." Also he said, "Write this, for these words are trustworthy and true."

If our bodies are real, then how can we survive the death of our bodies during this generation and become alive with new bodies in the next generation?

 

[Br. Bear]

Greetings all,

Member jcforever has been banned.

1John 2:18
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

1John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?
He is antichrist,
that denieth the Father and the Son.

1John 4:3
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus
Christ is come in the flesh is not of God:
and this is that spirit of antichrist,
whereof ye have heard that it should come;
and even now already is it in the world.

2John 1:7
For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh.

This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Bless you all ....><>

 

[Christ4Ever]

"If you have never heard the voice of the Lord speak commands directly into your mind, then you have no way of knowing what the truth is."
Clean Clothes

Dear @jcforever

Understanding has finally shed its light on me! This is what can only be described as a “game”. Be it a cosmic one so to speak! Though the words Cosmic or Game do not do it justice or truly fit the battle that is ongoing.

Yes or No?

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Nick
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[Strypes]

If you don't understand anything in this writing, then you were not chosen as one of God's disciples. Instead, you're being influenced by the Devil and the beast where all religions of man come from.

What I do understand is that the patience shown to this person is quite commendable.
Well done Y'all.



@Sue J Love .. Those visions in Zachariah are quite wild. The clean garments given to Joshua were not earned. They were given. Our righteousness is as filthy rags. Thank God we are given the righteousness of Jesus!

Reminds me of a song too.

Petra~ Clean

 

[Strypes]

The song "Clean" by Petra is one of my all time favorites. It is decades old. Another song from this millennium is "Flawless" by Mercy Me. I love this video.

 

[Sue J Love]

@Sue J Love .. Those visions in Zachariah are quite wild. The clean garments given to Joshua were not earned. They were given. Our righteousness is as filthy rags. Thank God we are given the righteousness of Jesus!

I agree! Thank you for sharing!