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Coffins for Children Ordered in Bulk, 'First Time in Over 30 Years' (Exclusive Interview)

MedicBravo

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Still want to get the Clot-shot?
Funeral businesses make a LOT of money of baby and child sized coffins.
Batman? Check. Wonder Woman? Check. Superman? Check.
Fire-engine Red? Check. CARS? Check. The list goes on.
Praying that the Father will draw some of the children if not all of them unto the Son to reveal His Son to them so they can believe in Him & be saved.
 
@GodB4Us Babies and children are treated differently from the rest of us. Knowing who God is all of them go to Heaven. He wouldn't send babies and children to Hell.
 
@GodB4Us Babies and children are treated differently from the rest of us. Knowing who God is all of them go to Heaven. He wouldn't send babies and children to Hell.
Have any scripture for that? There are scripture for otherwise.

Psalm 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

There is a passage that when a believer is married to the unbeliever, the unbeliever may be sanctified by the marriage as the children are too.

1 Corinthians 7:12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.

So children can be unclean in families where the couples are both unbelievers.

But I believe that the all seeing Father know who would have believed in Jesus Christ from those that would not and He would reveal His Son to them so they can believe in Him and be saved, even from the womb when they get aborted or still born.

Matthew 11:
25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight.
27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

Psalm 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.
6 Behold, thou desirest truth in the inward parts: and in the hidden part thou shalt make me to know wisdom.
7 Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean: wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow.

Psalm 139:1O lord, thou hast searched me, and known me....
13 For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb.
14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.
15 My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.
17 How precious also are thy thoughts unto me, O God! how great is the sum of them!

So all those who would have seek, will find & be saved.
 
@GodB4Us
That's a bad excuse. Scripture doesn't cover every single thing, thought, or example. There's no way any book could hold such info. Inference has been used throughout all of history to gain knowledge and info from as little info that exists. Police do it all the time. Medical personnel.
There is this thing called Opportunity. Babies and children are not mature minded, intelligent enough, nor physically old enough to understand God on such a level to accept or reject.
Aborted babies never had the Opportunity to Choose. Those who never experienced Jesus never had the Opportunity to Choose and what many believe is Jesus went to Hell for those 3 days to preach so they COULD experience it and took them home.
What about autistic children and adults? I've worked for several years and have a nephew who is. At my last church the one autistic kid knew of God but how he functions would no equal to a normal child. If you think God sends any baby or child to Hell you have incorrect knowledge.
If you think EVERY single topic must be backed by scripture you also have incorrect knowledge.
 
@GodB4Us
That's a bad excuse. Scripture doesn't cover every single thing, thought, or example. There's no way any book could hold such info. Inference has been used throughout all of history to gain knowledge and info from as little info that exists. Police do it all the time. Medical personnel.
There is this thing called Opportunity. Babies and children are not mature minded, intelligent enough, nor physically old enough to understand God on such a level to accept or reject.
Aborted babies never had the Opportunity to Choose. Those who never experienced Jesus never had the Opportunity to Choose and what many believe is Jesus went to Hell for those 3 days to preach so they COULD experience it and took them home.
What about autistic children and adults? I've worked for several years and have a nephew who is. At my last church the one autistic kid knew of God but how he functions would no equal to a normal child. If you think God sends any baby or child to Hell you have incorrect knowledge.
If you think EVERY single topic must be backed by scripture you also have incorrect knowledge.
There is a problem with your premise. You are basing a man's intellect, his ability to understand as the means of receiving the Good News.

1 Corinthians 2:3 And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.
4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

1 Corinthians 3:5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

So when it is not on the speaker, then it is not on the listener or in the case of babies, it is not on the receiver.

Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight.
27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

John 6:44 No man ( nor baby ) can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Now consider this; can the Father draw the retarded and the mentally handicapped and the autistic and even the mentally ill unto the Son to reveal His Son to them so they can believe in Him & be saved? I'd say yes.

Matthew 19:25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?
26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

Romans 8:31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

I would equate distress to any mental defect as well as the emotional ones and so God knows who would receive Him from those that prefer their evil deeds since our believing in Him is a manifested work of God.

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

Anyway, you can come across the most intelligent man and the most wise man in the world, but unless the Father reveals His Son to them, they will never believe in Him and be saved. So it doesn't matter on the level of intellect.
 
@GodB4Us There's no problem but your opinion is the problem.
Sling out of context verses all you want God does NOT send babies and children to Hell.
 
There is a problem with your premise. You are basing a man's intellect, his ability to understand as the means of receiving the Good News.

1 Corinthians 2:3 And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.
4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

1 Corinthians 3:5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

So when it is not on the speaker, then it is not on the listener or in the case of babies, it is not on the receiver.

Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight.
27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

John 6:44 No man ( nor baby ) can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Now consider this; can the Father draw the retarded and the mentally handicapped and the autistic and even the mentally ill unto the Son to reveal His Son to them so they can believe in Him & be saved? I'd say yes.

Matthew 19:25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?
26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

Romans 8:31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

I would equate distress to any mental defect as well as the emotional ones and so God knows who would receive Him from those that prefer their evil deeds since our believing in Him is a manifested work of God.

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

Anyway, you can come across the most intelligent man and the most wise man in the world, but unless the Father reveals His Son to them, they will never believe in Him and be saved. So it doesn't matter on the level of intellect.

@MedicBravo I agree with @GodB4Us on this point.

While you are correct @MedicBravo that the Bible does not cover everything,
It however does provide a framework, a template, and guiding principles to use
us walk in the direction of wisdom in ALL situations.

As @GodB4Us states, it is a shaky premise that you are putting forth to stand upon.

With that said, thanks brother @MedicBravo for sharing the news, it is sad that all these children are dying.
What I like about what you shared @MedicBravo is that sometimes we will share with family and friends
about the dangers of the vaccine, but they won't believe us. However when you look at other factors
such as what you shared, the coffin sales, that helps the logical thinker come to a better understanding
of what is really happening.
 
@GodB4Us There's no problem but your opinion is the problem.
Sling out of context verses all you want God does NOT send babies and children to Hell.
Well, I am hoping the Father will reveal His Son to the unborn babies, and the babies, and the little children so none will go to hell as I believe the Father can do this even unto babes for why intellect is not a factor against Him doing so..
 
@MedicBravo I agree with @GodB4Us on this point.

While you are correct @MedicBravo that the Bible does not cover everything,
It however does provide a framework, a template, and guiding principles to use
us walk in the direction of wisdom in ALL situations.

As @GodB4Us states, it is a shaky premise that you are putting forth to stand upon.

With that said, thanks brother @MedicBravo for sharing the news, it is sad that all these children are dying.
What I like about what you shared @MedicBravo is that sometimes we will share with family and friends
about the dangers of the vaccine, but they won't believe us. However when you look at other factors
such as what you shared, the coffin sales, that helps the logical thinker come to a better understanding
of what is really happening.
It's not shaky.
I've looked and I urge the both of you to find scripture, since certain people are obsessed with needing scripture to cover every topic brought up or "It's not legit."
Who is God by default?
From that what evidence/scripture is there that God sends them to Hell? Biological fact: Babies and children are not old enough, not mature enough, not intelligent enough to comprehend good vs evil nor have enough life experience to knowingly sin and give God the finger.
The Jews put being an adult at what 13? By then, common sense, a teenager IS old enough to know what what I listed. To know of God and to accept or reject therefore can but those younger are not.
All I've seen when I ask this is some general, baseless statement that in no way proves God sends babies and children to Hell. Inference IS legit.
I've stated before that police, fire, EMS, Doctors, nurses, and many professions and groups use inference to gain information. That includes the CDC and WHO.
 
Well, I am hoping the Father will reveal His Son to the unborn babies, and the babies, and the little children so none will go to hell as I believe the Father can do this even unto babes for why intellect is not a factor against Him doing so..
Why would He need to ?
A baby can't form but a few words, coherent sentences, poo or pee, feed itself, walk, etc. It's vision is poor for months and even then it is more months before it is clear enough to discern detail in facial features.
Babies cannot accept God into their lives b/c they aren't mentally and physically old enough.
 
It's not shaky.
I've looked and I urge the both of you to find scripture, since certain people are obsessed with needing scripture to cover every topic brought up or "It's not legit."
Who is God by default?
From that what evidence/scripture is there that God sends them to Hell? Biological fact: Babies and children are not old enough, not mature enough, not intelligent enough to comprehend good vs evil nor have enough life experience to knowingly sin and give God the finger.
The Jews put being an adult at what 13? By then, common sense, a teenager IS old enough to know what what I listed. To know of God and to accept or reject therefore can but those younger are not.
All I've seen when I ask this is some general, baseless statement that in no way proves God sends babies and children to Hell. Inference IS legit.
I've stated before that police, fire, EMS, Doctors, nurses, and many professions and groups use inference to gain information. That includes the CDC and WHO.

I personally don't think God sends them to hell, but I was agreeing that the premise or rationale wasn't strong.

I may have missed something when I was reading the post. I do believe that the babies will be in heaven.
I agree don't have to have a Bible verse for everything, but things should fit in a Biblical framework or way of thinking
based on the revealed character and WILL of God.

I think the revealed character of God, does fit your position @MedicBravo that these little babies will not be sent to hell.
 
Why would He need to ?
A baby can't form but a few words, coherent sentences, poo or pee, feed itself, walk, etc. It's vision is poor for months and even then it is more months before it is clear enough to discern detail in facial features.
Babies cannot accept God into their lives b/c they aren't mentally and physically old enough.
Good point.
 
I personally don't think God sends them to hell, but I was agreeing that the premise or rationale wasn't strong.

I may have missed something when I was reading the post. I do believe that the babies will be in heaven.
I agree don't have to have a Bible verse for everything, but things should fit in a Biblical framework or way of thinking
based on the revealed character and WILL of God.

I think the revealed character of God, does fit your position @MedicBravo that these little babies will not be sent to hell.
How is it not strong?
Police use it to solve cold cases over 20 years old.
There is no Biblical framework for everything. All of Creation is far too complicated for there to be a human understanding. It's why many things will stay a theory or hypothesis b/c they can't be proven and what little can explain it to put a label on it is all that exists.
Catholics are the ones who think babies and children go to Hell. Dante's Inferno was based largely on the CC POV.
The mentally handicapped are not all the same. Some have been so low IQ that some have killed people. Are they going to get a "Free Ticket" b/c of abnormal development? The Bible says nothing on this issue.
I suggest both of you learn more about inference and how it works not just with God and the Bible but in almost any area or aspect of everything.
 
How is it not strong?
Police use it to solve cold cases over 20 years old.
There is no Biblical framework for everything. All of Creation is far too complicated for there to be a human understanding. It's why many things will stay a theory or hypothesis b/c they can't be proven and what little can explain it to put a label on it is all that exists.
Catholics are the ones who think babies and children go to Hell. Dante's Inferno was based largely on the CC POV.
The mentally handicapped are not all the same. Some have been so low IQ that some have killed people. Are they going to get a "Free Ticket" b/c of abnormal development? The Bible says nothing on this issue.
I suggest both of you learn more about inference and how it works not just with God and the Bible but in almost any area or aspect of everything.
Indeed God has given us logic and we should indeed use it.

Thanks for sharing.
 
It's not shaky.
The shaky part is about saying that God the Father is limited in drawing anyone unto the Son by their lack of intellect for why you seem to disbelieve that the Father cannot reveal His Son even to babes in order for them to believe in Him to be saved.
I've looked and I urge the both of you to find scripture, since certain people are obsessed with needing scripture to cover every topic brought up or "It's not legit."
Who is God by default?
From that what evidence/scripture is there that God sends them to Hell? Biological fact: Babies and children are not old enough, not mature enough, not intelligent enough to comprehend good vs evil nor have enough life experience to knowingly sin and give God the finger.
The Jews put being an adult at what 13? By then, common sense, a teenager IS old enough to know what what I listed. To know of God and to accept or reject therefore can but those younger are not.
All I've seen when I ask this is some general, baseless statement that in no way proves God sends babies and children to Hell. Inference IS legit.
I've stated before that police, fire, EMS, Doctors, nurses, and many professions and groups use inference to gain information. That includes the CDC and WHO.
Proverbs 23:12 Apply thine heart unto instruction, and thine ears to the words of knowledge.
13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and
shalt deliver his soul from hell.
 
Why would He need to ?
A baby can't form but a few words, coherent sentences, poo or pee, feed itself, walk, etc. It's vision is poor for months and even then it is more months before it is clear enough to discern detail in facial features.
Babies cannot accept God into their lives b/c they aren't mentally and physically old enough.
Babies can do a whole lot more than you think. They can take in their surroundings and understand speech but just not able to return said speech.

I remember being held by my aunt while another aunt was looking on beside her. My aunt that was holding me said "I am your other Mommy". My other aunt commented saying, "Oh look, He is confused." And I was as I was looking for my mother as I was upset that I might be losing her. I specifically remembered that.

I also remembered that I was tempted to lie but my babysitter said to tell the truth because everything will be known in Heaven and I was just a tot then and so I was led away from temptation by the Lord and told the truth.

Yes, I believed in Him when I was a tot and got saved. I had several dreams about Jesus too.

Did the Gentiles said anything when they heard the words of Peter that through His name, whosoever believes in Him shall receive the remission of sins in Acts 10:43-44? Did they confess Him with their mouths or came forward to be water baptized before they got the Holy Ghost at their salvation of those that heard the words of Peter and believed? So that sets the precedent that babes can just believe and be saved as the Father enables them to believe in order to be saved.

And we have this about not preventing little children to come to Jesus.

Mark 10:13 And they brought young children to him, that he should touch them: and his disciples rebuked those that brought them.
14 But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.
15 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.

Jesus said they receive the kingdom of Heaven too and so what can they do but trust Jesus at His word & believe in Him to be saved?
 
The shaky part is about saying that God the Father is limited in drawing anyone unto the Son by their lack of intellect for why you seem to disbelieve that the Father cannot reveal His Son even to babes in order for them to believe in Him to be saved.

Proverbs 23:12 Apply thine heart unto instruction, and thine ears to the words of knowledge.
13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and
shalt deliver his soul from hell.
Lack of knowledge of something not lack of intellect.
If you don't know about something or a lot about it you aren't "less intelligent" or "stupid".
Babies and children simply can NOT make such life changing decisions. The various mentally handicapped, regardless of cause, can be of any age but the lowest cannot convey what they experience. Does God send them to Hell too? No.
That's not scripture to support this. Child is often referenced in a new Christian.
Per 14 are you going to beat a baby if it won't shut up or bites you b/c it doesn't know better?
It is most logical that babies and children under the "Age of Accountability/Reason are treated differently regardless if they are developed or not.
If God formed everyone in the womb and yet those babies and children did not have an Opportunity to Choose then the default "Hell" makes no sense and is not Biblical. The Catholics will push that so they can keep their Indulgence scam and Purgatory lie alive.
 
@GodB4Us Accepting God is is personal, conscious choice made by a sane, coherent person.
Babies and children do not have the age, mentality of life experience for that and a few kids who are ahead of others do not define the rest.
It's also logical that any underage child is not forever a baby or child but aged to a prime adult age and has the intelligence to match.
Will aborted babies find their parents in Heaven should they repent and follow God? Of course!
Will the abandoned babies and children who die do the same? Of course.
As Jesus spoke in parables but also lay terms then "child" and "babe" are not only referring to babies and children.
As a new Christian one is a babe or child as the Old is gone and a new person is "born again" remember?
People have used analogies throughout our history. It would be worse for someone to cause a young one to stumble as they are too young to fully understand.
 
Lack of knowledge of something not lack of intellect.
If you don't know about something or a lot about it you aren't "less intelligent" or "stupid".
Babies and children simply can NOT make such life changing decisions.
All they can do is trust the Lord at His word and believe what He says that by believing in Him is how they are saved. It is the religious people that has to become like a child in order to enter in.
The various mentally handicapped, regardless of cause, can be of any age but the lowest cannot convey what they experience. Does God send them to Hell too? No.
That's not scripture to support this. Child is often referenced in a new Christian.
True, but He does invite the little children to come to Him as all they can do is take Him at His word and believe in Him to be saved.
Per 14 are you going to beat a baby if it won't shut up or bites you b/c it doesn't know better?
Verse 13 cites the young as a child. A baby or an infant would not survive the rod let alone recover from a spanking which would be at the level of trauma. But they can be rebuked or scolded.

I recall now when my dad was changing out by diapers and how well I was going to the bathroom. For that, I was inspired to go again but that made him mad and changed the tone of his voice towards me and I understood his words and cried. Really do not know why he would compliment me going to the bathroom and then take it back as that was confusing to me but guess what? Some reasoning and understanding had to exist for me to be confused by this "hypocrisy"..
It is most logical that babies and children under the "Age of Accountability/Reason are treated differently regardless if they are developed or not.
Where is the scripture for the age of accountability & reason?
If God formed everyone in the womb and yet those babies and children did not have an Opportunity to Choose then the default "Hell" makes no sense and is not Biblical. The Catholics will push that so they can keep their Indulgence scam and Purgatory lie alive.
God the Father knows who is seeking Him from those that are not.

Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

You can see this in ministry in the Book of Acts.

Acts 16:6 Now when they had gone throughout Phrygia and the region of Galatia, and were forbidden of the Holy Ghost to preach the word in Asia,
7 After they were come to Mysia, they assayed to go into Bithynia: but the Spirit suffered them not.
8 And they passing by Mysia came down to Troas.
9 And a vision appeared to Paul in the night; There stood a man of Macedonia, and prayed him, saying, Come over into Macedonia, and help us.
10 And after he had seen the vision, immediately we endeavoured to go into Macedonia, assuredly gathering that the Lord had called us for to preach the gospel unto them.

I believe God is capable to reveal His Son even to those in the womb since He can foresee and know that they would have believed in Him to be saved since He enables us to believe in order to be saved.

Although I have no memory to recollect of being in the womb, I have heard that some people do and I believe them too.
 
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