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DEMONIC Laughing Preachers EXposed

The reason I feel a bit disturbed by the video is that I can't feel God's glory, holiness and joy in it ... which makes me suspect that it's fake; that the people in the video are just doing what they think that they're "supposed to do", which (sadly) is very common.

Am sorry Brother, but those people werent being prayed for or upon, which would explain why the Holy Spirit manifested itself in such a way in them.. Moreover, the Holy Spirit doesnt just dwell in anyone and everyone as we saw there, it just doesnt happen that way.. This was a man recreating what he personally believed to be the behavior of the persons who saw the masses speak and preach in different languages.. I think it is a mockery of the events of the Pentecost and that those followers were placed under a strange spell of some sort..

We must be careful not to fall into the wrong hands, some churches today have been taken over by the devil and I it is safe to say that I think we've had the privilege of seeing one of them..

The only question I have is, who took the video and how was it that he managed not to be affected by this spell..?? :)

God Bless..
 
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Let me be explicit in this way.
I had relative of mine, who was a Muslim. He had demons who he could call anytime at will. When they did manifested (Some of times I was there), he would just do things out of control. It seemed that they will took over and everything would be frightening and chaotic. That is never Spirit of Christ I know. Everyday, in all trials and celebrations i see goodness of God and I rejoice. Many knows me for "near-laugh". So I am not against Spirit filled actions, which when Manifest every Christian will know, why? Because we have the same Spirit.

In fact, yesterday, spirit of the Lord paused our timetable and we have to follow another one until He released us back to the first one. So I have seen many stuffs that Holy Spirit is doing. Believe me, If you have seen demons in action, there is no order, discipline or anything like you see in true church. I have seen and ministered many demonic oppressed people and once an agent of the devil.

The video just portrays as if I'm seeing the same scene. It just can't be from Holy Ghost. I think (then it is just my thought) that much of bros ans sisters in America are loosing their discernment, just as it is starting to happen here in Africa. The Precious Gospel and Precious Spirit of God is being "replaced" by another gospel and another spirit. I wish they could understand times we are in.

I have nothing I can do than keep praying for you my dears. My heart's desire is to see you in heaven when no counterfeit will exist. So I will pray for you all that we'll stand firm until we see the gates of heaven.

I love you all
Stefano
 
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I made a little joke about someone acting strangely in church one day. When I got home the Spirit of God fell on me and I acted the same way as my flesh reacted to His presence.
I am just saying that it is wise to be careful and prayerful when judging.
 
I am sorry if I offend anyone, so I will try to explain my "feelings" on the video itself.

First of all, I do not think the prosperity doctrine or movement is correct. I do not believe God is a vending machine that you tithe into and He in return blesses you. I think it is hog wash. I think that those television evangelists who basically beg for money to keep their ministry alive did not have the blessing of God to start with. God is able to keep going that which glorifies Him.

Next, I think that those television evangelist that come on and tell the viewer that if they plant a "seed" of $2500 (as an example) they will get back from God 10 times that amount are full of crap. Sorry, but I want to stress the ignorance of such. There are very lonely empty lost people watching these programs from all over the world who are searching and hoping for truth to change their hearts and situations and I think these robbers steal true hope in Christ.

I think that preachers who find their importance as an evangelist, preachers or teachers is so tremendous that they have to purchase jets and customized buses to tote their delicate butts around are also amiss of the truth of God. The apostles were quit effective and they possessed no such luxuries.

I believe that these preachers who believe they have the gift of healing and limit it to super meetings and super "Shows" are abusing the gift, and like many, if you don't get healed, you are at fault in your life....(another subject)....why are they not going to hospitals etc..

My God has a will, and His Will, will be done.

As I stated before, I do not know if all those who were in the video were under the influence of a touch from God, or if they were drunk on the prospect of self induced success of life.

If you took the time to listen to his second recording, not once did he offer hope in the Lord, just get out of these churches. He says there is no laughter in losing your house, in being sick, in many terrible situations in life. My house was auctioned on the courthouse steps on June 2, I am still full of laughter. My grandson is not yet two and he needs a heart transplant, but the doctors are amazed it is working better now than it has ever worked, I am still able to laugh. My children have made stupid decisions in their adult lives, maybe they will never accept Christ...but I am still going to laugh when my spirit is prompted. I have placed it all in Gods hands. Please don't some high and mighty righteous person come to my aid here, I want my kids saved, please comprehend.

I will not spend every second of everyday thinking that the awesome God that gave us emotions, after His own emotions is some stuffed gown up there on His throne, being fanned by little slave angels. He is a working, moving, caring, loving, busy God. He knows who we are. He feels what we feel. He listens to our words whether they are well versed with thees and thous, or whether they are simply Dear Jesus help me. He is not untouchable. He can fill us with laughter when there should be none. There are a lot of churches that call themselves "orderly" instead of dead. See, now opinion will get out of hand and I need to shush my mouth.

God is Good. :)
 
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im not commenting on the video but i dont think its right to judge others who worship God by their spontaneusness. what i mean is same as in these verses:


2Sa 6:14-23 And David danced before the LORD with all his might; and David was girded with a linen ephod. (15) So David and all the house of Israel brought up the ark of the LORD with shouting, and with the sound of the trumpet. (16) And as the ark of the LORD came into the city of David, Michal Saul's daughter looked through a window, and saw king David leaping and dancing before the LORD; and she despised him in her heart. (17) And they brought in the ark of the LORD, and set it in his place, in the midst of the tabernacle that David had pitched for it: and David offered burnt offerings and peace offerings before the LORD. (18) And as soon as David had made an end of offering burnt offerings and peace offerings, he blessed the people in the name of the LORD of hosts. (19) And he dealt among all the people, even among the whole multitude of Israel, as well to the women as men, to every one a cake of bread, and a good piece of flesh, and a flagon of wine. So all the people departed every one to his house. (20) Then David returned to bless his household. And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David, and said, How glorious was the king of Israel to day, who uncovered himself to day in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants, as one of the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself! (21) And David said unto Michal, It was before the LORD, which chose me before thy father, and before all his house, to appoint me ruler over the people of the LORD, over Israel: therefore will I play before the LORD. (22) And I will yet be more vile than thus, and will be base in mine own sight: and of the maidservants which thou hast spoken of, of them shall I be had in honour. (23) Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death.



So, dont be like Michal and despise the genuie worshippiers of God!
:)
Question: "Is being slain in the Spirit biblical?"


Answer:
Most commonly, being “slain in the Spirit”
happens when a minister lays hands on someone,
and that person collapses to the floor, supposedly
overcome by the power of the Holy Spirit. Those
who practice slaying in the Spirit use Bible passages
that talk about people becoming “as dead” (Revelation 1:17)
or of falling upon their face
(Ezekiel 1:28; Daniel 8:17-18, 10:7-9). However, there are a
number of contrasts between this biblical falling on one's
face and the practice of being slain in the Spirit.

1. The biblical falling down was a person's reaction
to what he saw in a vision or an event beyond ordinary
happenings, such as at the transfiguration of Christ
(Matthew 17:6). In the unbiblical practice of being slain
in the Spirit, the person responds to another’s touch or
to the motion of the speaker's arm.

2. The biblical instances were few and far between, and
they occurred only rarely in the lives of a few people. In
the slain in the Spirit phenomenon, falling down is a repeated
event and an experience that happens to many.

3. In the biblical instances, the people fall upon their
face in awe at either what or whom they see. In the
slain in the Spirit counterfeit, they fall backwards, either
in response to the wave of the speaker's arm or as a result
of a church leader's touch (or push in some cases).

I am not claiming that all examples of being slain in
the Spirit are fakes or responses to a touch or push. Many
people claim to experience an energy or a force that
causes them to fall back. However, we find no biblical
basis for this concept. Yes, there may be some energy
or force involved, but if so, it is very likely not of God and
not the result of the working of the Holy Spirit.

It is unfortunate that people look to such bizarre
counterfeits that produce no spiritual fruit, rather than
pursuing the practical fruit which the Spirit gives us for
the purpose of glorifying Christ with our lives
(Galatians 5:22-23).

Being filled with the Spirit is not
evidenced by such counterfeits, but by
a life that overflows
with the Word of God in such a
way that it spills over in
praise, thanksgiving, and
obedience to God.

Absolutly No Offence Intended.

God Bless and have mercy on us all, as
we learn and grow to become the Image of Christ
 
I am sorry if I offend anyone, so I will try to explain my "feelings" on the video itself.

First of all, I do not think the prosperity doctrine or movement is correct. I do not believe God is a vending machine that you tithe into and He in return blesses you. I think it is hog wash. I think that those television evangelists who basically beg for money to keep their ministry alive did not have the blessing of God to start with. God is able to keep going that which glorifies Him.

Next, I think that those television evangelist that come on and tell the viewer that if they plant a "seed" of $2500 (as an example) they will get back from God 10 times that amount are full of crap. Sorry, but I want to stress the ignorance of such. There are very lonely empty lost people watching these programs from all over the world who are searching and hoping for truth to change their hearts and situations and I think these robbers steal true hope in Christ.

I think that preachers who find their importance as an evangelist, preachers or teachers is so tremendous that they have to purchase jets and customized buses to tote their delicate butts around are also amiss of the truth of God. The apostles were quit effective and they possessed no such luxuries.

I believe that these preachers who believe they have the gift of healing and limit it to super meetings and super "Shows" are abusing the gift, and like many, if you don't get healed, you are at fault in your life....(another subject)....why are they not going to hospitals etc..

My God has a will, and His Will, will be done.

As I stated before, I do not know if all those who were in the video were under the influence of a touch from God, or if they were drunk on the prospect of self induced success of life.

If you took the time to listen to his second recording, not once did he offer hope in the Lord, just get out of these churches. He says there is no laughter in losing your house, in being sick, in many terrible situations in life. My house was auctioned on the courthouse steps on June 2, I am still full of laughter. My grandson is not yet two and he needs a heart transplant, but the doctors are amazed it is working better now than it has ever worked, I am still able to laugh. My children have made stupid decisions in their adult lives, maybe they will never accept Christ...but I am still going to laugh when my spirit is prompted. I have placed it all in Gods hands. Please don't some high and mighty righteous person come to my aid here, I want my kids saved, please comprehend.

I will not spend every second of everyday thinking that the awesome God that gave us emotions, after His own emotions is some stuffed gown up there on His throne, being fanned by little slave angels. He is a working, moving, caring, loving, busy God. He knows who we are. He feels what we feel. He listens to our words whether they are well versed with thees and thous, or whether they are simply Dear Jesus help me. He is not untouchable. He can fill us with laughter when there should be none. There are a lot of churches that call themselves "orderly" instead of dead. See, now opinion will get out of hand and I need to shush my mouth.

God is Good. :)

Aaamen!
 
3. In the biblical instances, the people fall upon their
face in awe at either what or whom they see. In the
slain in the Spirit counterfeit, they fall backwards, either
in response to the wave of the speaker's arm or as a result
of a church leader's touch (or push in some cases).

That's common when you think how unworthy we are before God, yet he gave us privilege to be his kids. As for me when I think of that and about many people in hospitals yet I'm healthy, people loosing their legs in accidents yet i'm walking, people who are deaf yet I hear, people with no knowledge of technology whatsoever, but i know it and greatest of all, many people are heading to eternal damnation yet I'm saved....I feel like fell before God and kiss his hands and his side, but the day comes. I just fall on my face to worship Him, the rock of my salvation!
Praise God!!!!!!!!!!!! :cute-animated:
 
First of all, I do not think the prosperity doctrine or movement is correct.
Very true. Like most "movements" the seize upon a few principles and try to make them a pattern for everything while ignoring the heart of the Bible itself. This is nothing more than corruption and is the same practice used by the Pharisees as they knew the Word of God but stretched it around their own goals and agendas.
 
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If you took the time to listen to his second recording, not once did he offer hope in the Lord, just get out of these churches. He says there is no laughter in losing your house, in being sick, in many terrible situations in life. My house was auctioned on the courthouse steps on June 2, I am still full of laughter. My grandson is not yet two and he needs a heart transplant, but the doctors are amazed it is working better now than it has ever worked, I am still able to laugh. My children have made stupid decisions in their adult lives, maybe they will never accept Christ...but I am still going to laugh when my spirit is prompted. I have placed it all in Gods hands. Please don't some high and mighty righteous person come to my aid here, I want my kids saved, please comprehend.

I will not spend every second of everyday thinking that the awesome God that gave us emotions, after His own emotions is some stuffed gown up there on His throne, being fanned by little slave angels. He is a working, moving, caring, loving, busy God. He knows who we are. He feels what we feel. He listens to our words whether they are well versed with thees and thous, or whether they are simply Dear Jesus help me. He is not untouchable. He can fill us with laughter when there should be none. There are a lot of churches that call themselves "orderly" instead of dead. See, now opinion will get out of hand and I need to shush my mouth.

God is Good. :)

When Ringo said there's no laughter when terrible things happen, he's not saying " Let me see you count it all joy, or don't count it all joy whatever comes ". It's not a simple statement but one that takes deep thought.

When my grandmother died my instant reaction as a holy spirit filled Christian was not to laugh in the spirit but to cry, get angry, feel alone. After letting all that out, I'm crying to God and talking to him begging for peace and understandering.
The peace came when I turned my eyes from the pain and looked to God. My joy was not a product of laughter, but of the goodness of my Holy Father.

I'm not for or against whats happening in the video, so my open mind leaves me with this interpretation of what I believe he's stating.
If there is power in " Laughing in the Holy Spirit " ( not regular laughter of joy that humans do, both pagans and christians ) But this laughing in the spirit that's being placed in the same level as speaking in tongues.

When someone is dying would laughing in the spirit change the situation?

If losing your house, would laughing in the spirit stop the foreclosure ?

A play of words " Let me see you laugh when horrible things happen.

Now the question is who gets to decide who's laughing in the spirit or not. Atheist laugh, followers of Islam laugh, satanist laugh everyone in this planet laughed sometime today.

Is it laughing in the spirit because it's in a church ?

How would I know if the guy next to me on the subway is laughing in the spirit ?

In other words if we weren't there how can we testify these people are having a spiritual manifestation of laughter from God the Father ?
 
In other words if we weren't there how can we testify these people are having a spiritual manifestation of laughter from God the Father ?

It is important to note that human beings cannot generate "laughter from God the Father". "Laughter from the Father" is, in my opinion, a move of the Holy Spirit in the category of gifts of healing (see 1 Cor 12:9).

SLE
 
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Sorry, haven't had time to be on much lately. Not sure if this is really directed at me, but thought I'd throw my thoughts out there.

I'm not for or against whats happening in the video, so my open mind leaves me with this interpretation of what I believe he's stating.

I don't know Ringo, so I don't know if he is a professing Christian or not. The bible says we will "know them by their fruit". His 'fruit' was to take the time to add flames and horns to people he probably does not know either. I do not see any 'fruit' in what he did with this video. He may be a great guy...

If there is power in " Laughing in the Holy Spirit " ( not regular laughter of joy that humans do, both pagans and Christians ) But this laughing in the spirit that's being placed in the same level as speaking in tongues.

I have gotten the giggles in the spirit...it is refreshing, some stiff necked people look down their nose at it, but that just makes it more giggly when you try to stop it. Is it a gift like speaking in tongues? I doubt it. But for someone who is going through heart wrenching trials...it is good medicine.

When someone is dying would laughing in the spirit change the situation?

I can't resist on this one...if I were dying laughing in the spirit, all could say she died laughing...she laughed till she died. It will not change our appointment with death, but their is healing in laughter.

If losing your house, would laughing in the spirit stop the foreclosure ?

Didn't stop mine, but I did have a bit of a laugh talking with the auctioneer...I went to get "closure" on my 'foreclosure'.

A play of words " Let me see you laugh when horrible things happen.

Now the question is who gets to decide who's laughing in the spirit or not. Atheist laugh, followers of Islam laugh, satanist laugh everyone in this planet laughed sometime today.

Is it laughing in the spirit because it's in a church?

Maybe they are laughing because God wanted them to stop thinking they were in control...I can't speak for those people. Maybe God wanted them to look foolish over their misinterpretation of prosperity, I don't know, anything I say becomes "judgment". I guess someone could write to these people and ask them personally.

How would I know if the guy next to me on the subway is laughing in the spirit ?

Well, if his eyes are glazed over and he is eating a bag of chocolate donuts...he is probably not in "the spirit" we are speaking of. If he wreaks of alcohol, probably not. If he is drooling, probably should just smile and move. I would think if the laughter is of the spirit at all, it will be infectious. Gonna have to get your "fruit inspector" out and check them at the door!!

In other words if we weren't there how can we testify these people are having a spiritual manifestation of laughter from God the Father ?

So true....and how can we be sure it was not?

I wish that all the sad, oppressed, depressed, obsessed Christians who are so uptight that they don't ever pray for the lost who are 'low lifes' because they are 'low lifes' strung out on drugs or alcohol, who spend all their time judging rather than 'inspecting' and who think they are God's favorite child...4-real, would get a good dose of spiritual laughter. I wish that God would just send out one big tickle to all those who really love Him in their heart of hearts...it would really break loose some tension and then maybe we would all get back out in the fields where the work needs to be done in Jesus name.

God is Good all of the time....

:magnify::laugh::laugh:
 
The church I go to doesnt really laugh much during worship and most
are too shy to even raise their hands in praise...
I wish more churches got excited when praising our Father and Creator,
more non-believers would see how much of a happier life it is.
God didnt say our life would be easy, but we would at least be able to
stand through the trials. As for the people in the video, I cannot see
into the hearts of others, nor do I know their thoughts. Only God
can see into the hearts of men. Psalm 44:21
 
The church I go to doesn't really laugh much during worship and most
are too shy to even raise their hands in praise...
I wish more churches got excited when praising our Father and Creator,
more non-believers would see how much of a happier life it is.
God didn't say our life would be easy, but we would at least be able to
stand through the trials. As for the people in the video, I cannot see
into the hearts of others, nor do I know their thoughts. Only God
can see into the hearts of men. Psalm 44:21


This "laughing" in church would not be something that took place during every service!! This obviously was a one time occurrence. That would be like saying in every service someone dances in the spirit, or speaks in tongues, or runs around the church etc.

I tried to imagine it the way you seem to picture it, and that makes me want to laugh!! (just tickled me.) If that were the case in every service, I would start to wonder if they had all gone mad. I think this is ONE video of ONE service.

There is a time and place for everything. I wish this had never been posted just to stir up confusion.

There are some churches out there that could use a dose of laughing gas pumped into the air vents though... :wink:

"God didn't say our life would be easy, but we would at least be able to
stand through the trials." So very true, and we should expect to have them.
 
I tried to imagine it the way you seem to picture it, and that makes me want to laugh!! (just tickled me.) If that were the case in every service, I would start to wonder if they had all gone mad.

There is a time and place for everything.

I usually go to the second service in my church, and a couple times
do to things that had come up, I had to go to the first service earlier.
I see a big difference between the two. In the first service when our
band is performing worship songs everyone is clapping and smiling
and dancing in their places and even the band members and preacher
crack some jokes between each song and laugh from joy. The next week
I went to the second service like always, and everyone was yawing and
slumping around, and looked grumpy and tired. Most were still seated
when some were singing praises because they didnt want to use the little
energy it took to stand up. The lead guitarist has to make everyone put in
some effort just to look happy and joyful to be there. I didnt get the
image that everyone in the first service was 'mad' but that they actually
enjoyed worshiping God. Im thinking of waking up earlier just to
be around this lovely bunch. I agree there is a time and place for everything which is why no one laughs during the service (unless the
pastor cracks a joke to keep people interested and make a point) :wink:
I do enjoy being happy for God, I smiled and laughed a bit when I
saw how joyful these people in the first service were. I got a good vibe.
I still say only God knows whats in the heart. But I do want to say
I didnt get a good vibe from the video...I didnt hear much preaching.
I heard more laughter than I did the Word. I dont like THAT at all. My pastor teaches the Word, but he certainly isnt boring about it :wink:
God Bless
:D
 
OK. God sometimes works in ways that we don't understand, and sometimes we only recognise God's hand in things later on. I have often rejected something only to realise later on that God was in it.

So I don't think it is wise to reject this out of hand.

There is a reliable way to judge if God's spirit is in a movement or event, and that is by the fruit bears.

Before coming to a conclusion, I would want to know if this is a private or indulgent spiritual movement - does it have any benefit for anyone other than those laughing.

Does this lead to restored relationships, generosity, faithfulness, compassion for the poor and needy, hope, peacemaking, selflessness, a deeper commitment to prayer, stronger families, love for the unlovely, a heart for people who don't know Jesus, and so on?

If it does, then I suggest we should set aside any preconceived notions we have about how we think God should be working and accept it.

If this movement does not bear this kind of fruit, reject it.
 
OK. God sometimes works in ways that we don't understand, and sometimes we only recognise God's hand in things later on. I have often rejected something only to realise later on that God was in it.

So I don't think it is wise to reject this out of hand.

There is a reliable way to judge if God's spirit is in a movement or event, and that is by the fruit bears.

Before coming to a conclusion, I would want to know if this is a private or indulgent spiritual movement - does it have any benefit for anyone other than those laughing.

Does this lead to restored relationships, generosity, faithfulness, compassion for the poor and needy, hope, peacemaking, selflessness, a deeper commitment to prayer, stronger families, love for the unlovely, a heart for people who don't know Jesus, and so on?

If it does, then I suggest we should set aside any preconceived notions we have about how we think God should be working and accept it.

If this movement does not bear this kind of fruit, reject it.


Those are words of wisdom my friend!
 
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Those are words of wisdom my friend!

Kenneth Hagan and his Son are both great ministers of God. There is such a thing as a joyful noise I will make (is laughing not joy?)
 
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