Divorce and remarriage

[JCslover]

I just want to know 100% on what the bible says about divorce and remarriage,I know it says you have to stay with the same person always until you die,unless your spouse dies or they have commited adultery.But what if the husband abuses the wife,or gets her into debt,or keeps walking out on her,stealing,telling lies,in other words making her life a living hell?what also if he was a non christian surely a loving God wouldnt expect her to live in such an unhealthy situation would he?And what about if he lusted after other woman,and once she split up from him he slept about with so many other woman,is she not free from him then to remarry a loving christian person,who love cherish her and make her so very happy?I hope so but i must see what you all think?

 

[Boanerges]

1Co 7:11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.
1Co 7:12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
1Co 7:13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
1Co 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
1Co 7:15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.


God does indeed hate divorce (broken covenants) but is a divorcee Himself (Jer 3:8).
While we never want to disobey His Word I sometimes think that we should (as Jesus did) understand the heart in which it was given. That was after all the prime difference in His teaching and the legalism preached by the Pharisees.
Again, I am not promoting disobeying the Word but I am saying that God loves to forgive, heal and deliver those with broken lives.
Do you think He would condemn a remarried person or forgive them and have them walk in His love?
Biblically we are not to discard our spouse but if they walk out in unbelief then God has called us to a life of peace.

 

[soberxp]

1Timothy 2:15 :Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

this verse told us we should continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety even after marriage.so the marriage not about sexual。。。。。。。。。in word of god.it's about mate.

1Co 7:38 So then he that giveth her in marriage doeth well; but he that giveth her not in marriage doeth better.
1Co 7:39 The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.
1Co 7:40 But she is happier if she so abide, after my judgment: and I think also that I have the Spirit of God.

1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
1Co 8:7 Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled.
1Co 8:8 But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse.
1Co 8:9 But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.
1Co 8:10 For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols;
1Co 8:11 And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died?
1Co 8:12 But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ.

食色性也 LOL

 

[spottydog]

A marraige is a blood covenant, just like the blood covenant we have with Jesus based on his blood.

When you get married you make 'oaths' based on that blood. It's an extremly serious, spiritual thing. IF you divorce for anything less than fornication or adultery, (or abuse) then I suspect you are on shakey ground.

Most second marraiges fail, because most are cursed from the get go because one or other of the spouses has either commited actual adultery or adultery in thier hearts with someone. i And therefore they are under a curse for not honouring the covenant they made with the first spouse.

This is not true of those who are remarrying because of death, or because a spouse was unfaithful to them and they are innocent before the Lord.

 

[JCslover]

A marraige is a blood covenant, just like the blood covenant we have with Jesus based on his blood.

When you get married you make 'oaths' based on that blood. It's an extremly serious, spiritual thing. IF you divorce for anything less than fornication or adultery, (or abuse) then I suspect you are on shakey ground.

Most second marraiges fail, because most are cursed from the get go because one or other of the spouses has either commited actual adultery or adultery in thier hearts with someone. i And therefore they are under a curse for not honouring the covenant they made with the first spouse.

This is not true of those who are remarrying because of death, or because a spouse was unfaithful to them and they are innocent before the Lord.

Yes marriage vows are taken very seriously,my ex husband was non christian ,he didnt want to live with me and kept walking out on me,he emotional abused me and threatend me and lusted after other woman,he was very abusive that i was scared of him and went to the police.since we divorced hes slept with a few woman,Im not unhappy that we are divorced,but Im very unhappy about being alone.I know i love Jesus unendlessly,but God said even to adam its not good for man to be alone,and im sure he meant that with a woman too.If I marry again I desperately want someone in the Lord thats maybe awidower,or with someones who ex wife cheated on him,so that im not sining by marrying him,its hard to find the right one though,especially in my situation,single mum with son aged 12.I like someone with child/ren who understands whats its like,so we can be a help met for each other,but how do i find this person,it seems impossible at times,I think even my son would like me to find someone and be happy,if thats not going to happen can you all please pray for me to accept my singlehood,i would appreciate that so very much

 

[soberxp]

I thought u have another way.

1Corinthians - 7:16
kjv:For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife?
niv:How do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or, how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?

1Peter - 3:1
kjv:Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
niv:Wives, in the same way be submissive to your husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives,

1Corinthians - 7:11
kjv:But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.
niv:But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife.

And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery. except itbe for fornication,

thinking about it !!!!!! you will get it !!!!!! suck for the game of words......

 

[JCslover]

Matthew 19:9-Im holding you to the original plan,and holding you liable for adultery if you divorce your faithful wife and then marry someone else.I will make exception in the case where the spouse has commited adultery.
I cant remeber which chapter it was but Jesus siad that If a man looks after another woman lustfully in his heart he has commited adultery.
so with those two thoughts in mind its quite within the law of God for a woman to remarry again after divorce if her ex husband was into porn instead of sharing his love with her.I also feel you can be unfaithful in many different ways,of course I do believe in marriage but a true God of love wouldnt expect us to stay in a marriage where the other is delibrately making the other life a living hell.God want us to be happy not miserable.

 

[soberxp]

accept my singlehood,i would appreciate that so very much

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[JCslover]

The person above thankyou for all your compliments

 

[SpiritLedEd]

I think even my son would like me to find someone and be happy,if thats not going to happen can you all please pray for me to accept my singlehood,i would appreciate that so very much

Its been my experience that many people wind up in bad marriages because, as psychologists say, they are co-dependent, which means they feel they need the illusion of another person needing them in order to feel good about themselves. You might want to check that out before you seek another relationship so you don't end up getting burned again.

SLE

 

[bamagrad05]

Divorve and Remarriage

Because a husband/wife commits adultery, beats you or gets you in debt doesnt allow you the right to remarry. You can Divorce, lets use our good sense. If a woman cant live with her husband, seperate from him. But you cant remarry. This rule applies to me as well. I am praying to go to send me a spouse. And if I leave her, I cant remarry no matter what.

Luke 16:18 "Anyone"( abuser, debter, adultery) who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorce women commit adultery.

When the bible said unless marital unfaithfulness, they are talking about a couple engaged to be married. Remember, Mary was not yet married to Jospeh, when she begaem pregnant with Jesus Christ. She was engagged to them, thats why Joepsh had the mind to put her away quietly.

1 Corin 7
Romans 7

You can divorce yes, but the only thing that frees you to remarry is death. That is clearly stated in the bible. In the marriage vows you took before the Lord, it said for better or for worse.

 

[bamagrad05]

Matthew 1:18

Excuses for breaking Gods word.

1. Person wasnt a Christian.
Q: Then why did you marry them?
2. Person cheated on me.

Matthew 1:

His mother Mary was pledged ot be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found with child through the Holy Spirit. Because Joseph her husbadn was a rightenous man he did want to expose her to public disgrace, he had a man to divorce her quietly.

20: do now be afaird to take Mary home as your wife......

In Jewish Tradtion, a Marriage has a few stages, the engagment stage and when the actual marriage took place.

If you are in engaged to be married, and the person commits adultery on you tnen dont get married.

We have to live with the consequences of sin sometimes. And being single is one of them. Some people have to live with aids/herpes because of fonication.

Thats why marriage should never be taken lightly. I am 28, I desire to be married, and sometimes its hurts, but Im waiting on God to build my house. I am preparing myself to be a husband. And I am making sure the holy spirit guides me to the right spouses.

1 Corin 7, Romasn 7, Luke 16:18

 

[JCslover]

Excuses for breaking Gods word.

1. Person wasnt a Christian.
Q: Then why did you marry them?
2. Person cheated on me.

Matthew 1:

His mother Mary was pledged ot be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found with child through the Holy Spirit. Because Joseph her husbadn was a rightenous man he did want to expose her to public disgrace, he had a man to divorce her quietly.

20: do now be afaird to take Mary home as your wife......

In Jewish Tradtion, a Marriage has a few stages, the engagment stage and when the actual marriage took place.

If you are in engaged to be married, and the person commits adultery on you tnen dont get married.

We have to live with the consequences of sin sometimes. And being single is one of them. Some people have to live with aids/herpes because of fonication.

Thats why marriage should never be taken lightly. I am 28, I desire to be married, and sometimes its hurts, but Im waiting on God to build my house. I am preparing myself to be a husband. And I am making sure the holy spirit guides me to the right spouses.

1 Corin 7, Romasn 7, Luke 16:18

im afraid i disagree with you on that one,if the bible allows us to divorce for abuse or adultery ,then i think as long as your divorced you can remarry again,alot of wonderful spirit filled christians I know that were divorced has remarried again,any way I guess we all have to give are concoius to God,also the fact if your ex is either remarried again or in sexual relations with someone,Im afraid I disagree when you say its wrong to remarry,sorry,yes i am living of Gods word.

 

[bamagrad05]

You dont disagree with me

You have no disagreement with me. But, rather a disagreement with the Word, and the Author of the Word.

I tell anyone, there is plenty in the bible I agree but dont agree with. If it was up to me, I would live me entire life in pure debauchery, I tried but the word that is in me didnt allow me to enjoy it. I never enjoyed the nightlight because of the scriptures,my body want to, but my soul was pierced.

You have a problem with the bible, word of god. That is why you are adding to it and taking away from it.

I will pray for you, and love you, but your problem is not with me, its with the word of God.

 

[JCslover]

No I dont have a problem or disagreement with the word of God,Jesus clearly said that you are free to marry again if you are the victum of adultery(and adultery is even caused by a lustful eye)cant remember the verse but it does say that,I am not adding or taking away ,I love the word of God,what I dont like is people keep critising me all the time,in fact this is really stressing me out,this is a christian forum I would think we should be supporting not condeming each other,if we were to really live to the exact word of God i could get really funny and say you are all sinners for not being curcumsised,or not keeping the sabbath on saturday or eating pork,see how it feels?Not nice is it?Jesus said i could remarry again,it didnt mention anything about being engaged no it mention MARRRIAGE,you CAN divorce and remarry if you are the victum of abuse or adultery ,im sorry but this is all really getting to me,I hope you just leave me alone now and dont keep condeming me,look at your own lifes first.

 

[Kit Carson]

Do you think God is smart? Does he know more than us? Did not the tribal leaders make laws for divorce? And did not Jesus say the law was not abandoned?

Be careful with modern religion, commons sense, compassion and understanding are long gone. As compassionate and understanding as we can be, is not God even more so?

If you are in a very bad situation, no love, maybe even abuse, children exposed to fights, and many bad things, and maybe even one day a crime of passion that results in prison.

Would not God understand this and allow intelligent outlets. Take you through the hard times and still love you and work with you for long term understanding and forgiveness for all.

If two people simply do not like each other, or have been though many things and there is simply no trust left, it is best to intelligently move on.

You see you can forgive, and God will forgive you, but there is a saying to be gentle but cunning as a snake. This applies to forgiveness and life too. You can forgive but there is this instinctive mistrust. If you can deal with this in a constructive way, and overcome it it is best to work on it, make it work, for the children .

But there are provisions in the word for stubborn humans. It was realized that some would never get along. And all sins are forgiven and God does want all to be on an even keel.

Make Sense??

Kit

 

[JCslover]

Do you think God is smart? Does he know more than us? Did not the tribal leaders make laws for divorce? And did not Jesus say the law was not abandoned?

Be careful with modern religion, commons sense, compassion and understanding are long gone. As compassionate and understanding as we can be, is not God even more so?

If you are in a very bad situation, no love, maybe even abuse, children exposed to fights, and many bad things, and maybe even one day a crime of passion that results in prison.

Would not God understand this and allow intelligent outlets. Take you through the hard times and still love you and work with you for long term understanding and forgiveness for all.

If two people simply do not like each other, or have been though many things and there is simply no trust left, it is best to intelligently move on.

You see you can forgive, and God will forgive you, but there is a saying to be gentle but cunning as a snake. This applies to forgiveness and life too. You can forgive but there is this instinctive mistrust. If you can deal with this in a constructive way, and overcome it it is best to work on it, make it work, for the children .

But there are provisions in the word for stubborn humans. It was realized that some would never get along. And all sins are forgiven and God does want all to be on an even keel.

Make Sense??

Kit

Thanks for your warm kind words,you touched my heart,it felt like I was the adulterous woman and you was Jesus saying I dont condemn you,thanks that really moved me

 

[Kit Carson]

Thanks for your warm kind words,you touched my heart,it felt like I was the adulterous woman and you was Jesus saying I dont condemn you,thanks that really moved me

You are welcome. I wish you a calm and peace in your decisions. But never listen to another person. Test it all. Go to Gods word when you are troubled, find and read the parts that pertain to your given situation and say a simple prayer to understand. It will show you the way. We as Christians can guide others, but it is God who seals the deal.

Kit

 

[JCslover]

You are welcome. I wish you a calm and peace in your decisions. But never listen to another person. Test it all. Go to Gods word when you are troubled, find and read the parts that pertain to your given situation and say a simple prayer to understand. It will show you the way. We as Christians can guide others, but it is God who seals the deal.

Kit

Wise words and will do:shade:

 

[10stepsback]

Divorce is never easy, and nobody really knows the heart, except God. I find it very sad that some churches and Christians, look down on those who are divorced. Being a single Christian and trying to date, or just exsist in this world is very hard. Christians gossip and talk about divorced/single people if they go out with someone of the opposite sex, and the world mocks you for not living and acting in their manner. As human beings we need physical contact so don't condemn the divorced among you, give them a big hug.