Do you believe that when Satan is gone we will be more prosperous???

[KingJ]

The demons of the Pitt, named and unnamed, along with the horrors of evil will drive many people insane and they will kill themselves

What scripture are you quoting?

 

[MedicBravo]

When scripture says Jesus will ride a white horse, what picture comes to your mind?

THE Jesus on a clearly NOT normal horse. There's more to God and the Bible than just words.

 

[KingJ]

THE Jesus on a clearly NOT normal horse. There's more to God and the Bible than just words.

I am not disagreeing that God does magical things, He speaks things into existence. My underlying point is simply that we should not over sprliritualise the hereafter.

God wanted humans, humans do what humans do.

 

[Rhema]

Most people tick all those blocks when they travel to another country. You are overly reading into it.

And you are overly trivializing it.
You don't think Paul traveled to other countries?

 

[KingJ]

You don't think Paul traveled to other countries?

Relevance?

 

[Rhema]

(1 Corinthians 2:9 KJV) But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

Most people tick all those blocks when they travel to another country.

You don't think Paul traveled to other countries?

Relevance?

 

[KingJ]

(1 Corinthians 2:9 KJV) But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

Most people tick all those blocks when they travel to another country.

You don't think Paul traveled to other countries?

Relevance?

Try and acknowledge that these blocks can be ticked by someone who visits a country or land they have never been to.

Picture someone who has not travelled to Africa. They see lions for the first time. They hear sounds at night they never heard before. Fear of the roars enter their heart, such fear they never experienced before.

So, we can see that all those blocks can be ticked SIMPLY by travelling to another country.

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Now, yes Paul did travel, but you are using a troll tactic. You are moving the goal posts. Not sure intentionally or unintentionally.

Let's say Paul discovered that there was an island of dragons and went there by himself. He could return and say the following:

Eye hath not seen (dragons), nor ear heard (dragons), neither have entered into the heart of man (dragon eats men).

Why does the verse from Paul have to be mystical and extra spiritual? When just something like finding a dragon, another country or Jesus simply riding a white horse in the air can tick all those blocks.

You and others here are NOT dealing with SCRIPTURE that details some things we can expect. See post # 14.

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Now, I am by NO MEANS one who believes in putting God in a box. He is God and He really loves us. So we can certainly expect a lot of things.

The only point I want to make, is that humans are humans. God wanted humans so God made humans. Humans do what humans do. God wanted cats. A cat does what a cat does. A cat is not a dog. A cat does not do what a dog does. A cat does not do what a human does.

Now the follow up reply from me if you disagree with anything I have type here is going to be ''do you know what a human is'' ''Do you know what you are?''.

 

[Rhema]

(1 Corinthians 2:9 NRSV) But, as it is written, "What no eye has seen, nor ear heard, nor the human heart conceived, what God has prepared for those who love him"—​

These are things that no human eyes have seen. No human ear has heard. No human heart has ever imagined what God has prepared.

All countries to which one travels has been seen by human eye. So no, it doesn't "tick" any box.

Picture someone who has not travelled to Africa. They see lions for the first time.

Human ears have heard lions roar, but what God has prepared, no human ear has heard. All your travel example fail in this manner.

all those blocks can be ticked SIMPLY by travelling to another country

No, because then eye has seen and ear has heard them. Paul is speaking of something even beyond ones imagination.

troll tactic

(Can't help yourself can you.)
You should try harder.

Let's say Paul discovered that there was an island of dragons and went there by himself. He could return and say the following:

Eye hath not seen (dragons), nor ear heard (dragons), neither have entered into the heart of man (dragon eats men).

No, he couldn't return and say "Eye hath not seen (dragons). Why? Because HIS eye DID see dragons. Et. Al. So Paul would be lying.

I would encourage you to continue your studies in English. Maybe take some computer courses.

Why does the verse from Paul have to be mystical and extra spiritual?

Because Paul was making mystical statements about the spirit. Not about a walkabout through Timbuktu on a weekend.

God wanted humans so God made humans.

God did not make humans the way they currently are. They Fell, and did so all on their own, not knowing what a lie was.

Now the follow up reply from me if you disagree with anything I have type here is going to be ''do you know what a human is'' ''Do you know what you are?''.

I've got a pretty good notion as to what you are. (And surprise, it's not all bad....)

Or do you wish to play the gamete and gonad game?

Rhema
Be seeing you

 

[KingJ]

(1 Corinthians 2:9 NRSV) But, as it is written, "What no eye has seen, nor ear heard, nor the human heart conceived, what God has prepared for those who love him"—​

These are things that no human eyes have seen. No human ear has heard. No human heart has ever imagined what God has prepared.

All countries to which one travels has been seen by human eye. So no, it doesn't "tick" any box.


Human ears have heard lions roar, but what God has prepared, no human ear has heard. All your travel example fail in this manner.


No, because then eye has seen and ear has heard them. Paul is speaking of something even beyond ones imagination.


(Can't help yourself can you.)
You should try harder.


No, he couldn't return and say "Eye hath not seen (dragons). Why? Because HIS eye DID see dragons. Et. Al. So Paul would be lying.

I would encourage you to continue your studies in English. Maybe take some computer courses.


Because Paul was making mystical statements about the spirit. Not about a walkabout through Timbuktu on a weekend.


God did not make humans the way they currently are. They Fell, and did so all on their own, not knowing what a lie was.


I've got a pretty good notion as to what you are. (And surprise, it's not all bad....)

Or do you wish to play the gamete and gonad game?

Rhema
Be seeing you

What a silly post. You are not reading and grasping the point being made. You are merely moving the goal post.

 

[Rhema]

What a silly post. You are not reading and grasping the point being made. You are merely moving the goal post.

And you're just avoiding the issues.

 

[KingJ]

And you're just avoiding the issues.

I repeated a question to you 10 times and you have still not answered it XD

You make your own rabbit trails and reply to them. I will leave you to carry on talking to yourself.

 

[Rhema]

I repeated a question to you 10 times and you have still not answered it XD

Where?

You had asked only 2, maybe 3 different questions in this thread, so I really think you're losing it.

And I am now convinced you don't know what a rabbit trail actually is.

 

[Rxlx]

This seems a very odd question to me.

There will be no more envy greed or coveting. But prsperity is just material things, what do you think you'll need in the next life?
A bigger boat? A newer car? A private jet? More bedrooms? More money in your bank account? A bigger television set? ( Hmmm... what would you watch in heaven? )
We won't need or want any of that stuff.

I think there will be rewards and treasures in heaven, not things like money or cars or boats, but even better.

Matt 5:12; "Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
Matt 5:46; "For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?
Matt 6:4; so that your giving will be in secret; and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.
Matt 10:42; "And whoever in the name of a disciple gives to one of these little ones even a cup of cold water to drink, truly I say to you, he shall not lose his reward."
Mark 9:41; "For whoever gives you a cup of water to drink because of your name as followers of Christ, truly I say to you, he will not lose his reward.

1Cor 3:13; each man's work will become evident; for the day will show it because it is to be revealed with fire, and the fire itself will test the quality of each man's work.
1Cor 3:14; If any man's work which he has built on it remains, he will receive a reward.
2Jn 1:8; Watch yourselves, that you do not lose what we have accomplished, but that you may receive a full reward.

Matt 6:19; "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal.
Matt 6:20; "But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in or steal;

From what I can tell, whatever prizes and rewards we will get in the next life, depends on what we are doing now if this life.
Prosperity in the next life doesn't come from anything we do after this life ends.

1Cor 9:24; Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.
Php 3:14; I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.
Col 2:18; Let no one keep defrauding you of your prize by delighting in self-abasement and the worship of the angels, taking his stand on visions he has seen, inflated without cause by his fleshly mind,
2Tim 2:5; Also if anyone competes as an athlete, he does not win the prize unless he competes according to the rules.

Luke 18:22; When Jesus heard this, He said to him, "One thing you still lack; sell all that you possess and distribute it to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me."

No one goes to heaven.
Jesus is to lead and remake Earth as the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.
This fact seems so hard for all to grasp due to lifelong brainwashings...

 

[Rxlx]

Most people tick all those blocks when they travel to another country. You are overly reading into it.

I'm pretty sure that nowhere on Earth is as peaceful, fritful and beautiful as The Garden of Eden was.
Adam and Eve had the company of dinosaurs, sabretooth tigers, gigantic flying reptiles and slithering snakes, soft fluffy animals and lovely birds - and all those ate grasses. And on the river and sea bed innumerable ammonites and trilobites slid around recycling all the leaves and flowers that fell in the water...

 

[KingJ]

I'm pretty sure that nowhere on Earth is as peaceful, fritful and beautiful as The Garden of Eden was.

Eden was on Earth. The devil wore a crown that contained 28 gems found on earth.

Adam and Eve had the company of dinosaurs, sabretooth tigers, gigantic flying reptiles

I don't agree. No scripture teaches this.

And on the river and sea bed innumerable ammonites and trilobites slid around recycling all the leaves and flowers that fell in the water...

We still have this.

 

[Rhema]

Jesus is to lead and remake Earth as the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

Interesting, as you have chided me for being too literal.

And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.​

(Luke 17:20-21 KJV)

Kindly,
Rhema

 

[B-A-C]

And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.(Luke 17:20-21 KJV)

Luke 17:22; And He said to the disciples, "The days will come when you will long to see one of the days of the Son of Man, and you will not see it.
Luke 17:23; "They will say to you, 'Look there! Look here!' Do not go away, and do not run after them.
Luke 17:24; "For just like the lightning, when it flashes out of one part of the sky, shines to the other part of the sky, so will the Son of Man be in His day.

Luke 17:20; Now having been questioned by the Pharisees as to when the kingdom of God was coming, He answered them and said, "The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed;
Luke 17:21; nor will they say, 'Look, here it is!' or, 'There it is!' For behold, the kingdom of God is in your midst."

Who is "they" in verse 21? Why did Jesus say His return will be like lightning flashing across the sky?

Rev 1:7; BEHOLD, HE IS COMING WITH THE CLOUDS, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. So it is to be. Amen.

Can every eye see the hidden kingdom in your midst? Can every eye see lightning flashing across the sky?

 

[Rhema]

Well it all makes sense only when one does NOT link the Kingdom of God with the Coming of the Son of Man. One passage was spoken to the Pharisees. But the other passage was spoken only to the disciples and we have no narrative between the two. Nor should we impute one.

Luke 17:21; nor will they say, 'Look, here it is!' or, 'There it is!' For behold, the kingdom of God is in your midst (ENTOS - G1787)."

May I ask the translation that states "midst" ??

LINK to the Liddel Scott Lexicon for G1787 (ENTOS) - A. within, inside

And continuing on, the ones taken in Luke are those in Mat. 13:41 - them which do iniquity.

God bless,
Rhema

(And you should be cognizant by now that Revelation is not in our canon. So....)