Jesusgirlkk
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please just say your true feelings
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SignUp Now!Do we consider who the worship music is for? Do we write worship music based upon what we like or how the feel of the music appeals to our flesh? Who is the worship music supposed to appeal to? The worshiper or the one being worshiped?
Yes, the music and style of it matters. Consider the use of music in the entertainment industry. It is used in such a way to give the viewer a richer experience while viewing. Music used in movies is made to accentuate the film and bring out a fullness to it. So then what about our worship music? It is for God right? How are we choosing to give God a richer experience of our worship? Does the music we play to him match that which we are saying with the words we sing?
On the other hand, there is what is called worship music out there that is explicitly for the pleasure of the listener and not God. It isn't listened to so that God can be glorified. It is listened to solely for pleasure. Taking your sinful music styles you once listened to for pleasure in your ignorance and putting godly words to them so that you can still enjoy the pleasure of the music with some sort of proper theme is not glorifying to God. Bringing it into the church and calling it worship music is a slap in the face to the God you claim to love.
Always remember to ask, is this about me or about God? For my pleasure or his?
1 Cor 14:7, Eph 5:19,
Opinion!
If you can listen to Christian or God themed music and worship God while doing so, then it's not a slap in the face to God.
That's just silly...
Even if it's not a Christian song, or about God, it still doesn't mean it's bad. What if it's a love song? Something God is pretty much all about in the new testament, something he wants us to do to everyone. What if we find comfort and relaxation in a love song, and worship God while it plays in the background?
Makes no sense to cast things out that comfort you and provide you with no negative feelings, or better yet...positive christian feelings. Sounds a bit closed minded.
There is probably nothing I can say that you will not refute by your choice words of rejection through name calling. I would adjure you to start with Jesus and work your way outward. You are supposed to be like him correct? That begins with emptying yourself of self and becoming a servant of God to others (Phil 3). Picking up your cross and denying yourself. Denying ourselves is the opposite of pleasing ourselves. It is the only way to escape the corruption that is in the world through human desire to please themselves. I am very careful not to go back to the former idolatry that I committed as I worshiped the musicians of the world who created that which tickled my ears.
Let me bring to mind some characteristics of God, he is:
- Opinionated - Lk 7:28 - I agree with him here.
- Silly - 1 Cor 1:21 - This is absolutely brilliant.
- Close minded -Ex 20:2-3 - I wouldn't have it any other way.
I am honored to be like him according to your testimony of me.
I didn't mean to actually use "name calling". I wasn't directing it at you as a person, but rather some of the primary points of your opinion on this matter. In no way am I challenging you, or trying to insult you. This is not my attention, if this is what happened then I apologize. I can address your post now.
I have rejected your opinion now, because it makes no sense in it's primary points.
Some of it I do agree with though, the idea of it that is. It's kinda like you're saying we shouldn't use "bad" things for our worship. Which is true, however what is bad to someone can be good to someone else. What might hold someone back, could move someone else forward...even in faith.
You also took my opinions on your opinions personal in the last part of your reply and then compared it to biblical scriptures which is completely off topic. However, I understand your confusion and cleared that up earlier, I hope.
Thank you for clarifying your inflection, something that cannot be seen in printed words well.
What primary points are you pointing to?
Maybe an example or two will help me understand your point of view.
That was just for fun. An exercise of the mind with scripture and really had no bearing on the topic as you say.
Gary
Oh you're welcome, sometimes I seem a bit hostile lol. Which I am not trying to be, but rather aggressive or out in the open. I am glad you know now I wasn't trying to insult you, that is very important. We are all in this together after all.
The point I was aiming at is when you said something along the lines of "some worship music is purely for the listener and not God". Which I can agree is true, but is that so bad? If someone listens to one of these songs, but finds themselves worshiping God from the songs inspiration or the feeling it gives them, is that bad? See, I do not believe that it is. However, I am a person who tries to bend and twist things (except faith) into my perspective. Not exactly justifying it, but taking from it what I chose to take from it. There are some songs that aren't even considered Christian songs that make me think about God, or cause me to get a little closer in that direction. Understand what I am aiming at here? I hope so lol, explained it the best I could. >.<
Ah, an example of my point..well lets see. In my above paragraph I talked about listening to a song that wasn't designed to be a Christian song, yet it got me into a Christian moment. A song about the relationship between someone and someone else, someone might not see this as a positive thing or a holy thing. However, someone might take the elements of the relationship spoke of in this song (honesty, love, respect) and apply it to their relationship with God. Another example could be a movie. The movie could have some violence in it, maybe some minor faul language, which one person might no appreciate. Then on the other hand, another person might look directly at the hero of the movie. They will observe them and their elements (courage, love, strength) and apply this to their living, or even their faith.
Haha, yeah I understand that. It was actually an interesting thing to add. You are proud of your faith and strong in it, which is highly respected.