Does Anybody Believe in Hell?

[TouchTestimony]

And does anybody believe that in the time it took to read this, as many as 5 (or more) people just went there because they died without accepting Jesus Christ, the sacrifice made for our sins? I often ask myself, "If I really believe this, why am I not shouting God's Plan of Redemption from the rooftops" ?

 

[MelodyC]

Are you here to guilt people into sharing the Gospel 24 hours a day 7 days a week?

You know I've got to sleep and while I sleep there are many people dying without Jesus.

It isn't my responsibility to make people receive Christ. Not even Jesus had the responsibility of making some one accept salvation. No one can make another person repent and recieve forgiveness for their sins through Christ.

Jesus came and preached to the Jews. It was the apostles who took the gospel message out further than Israel. So if Jesus didn't go to the whole world with the Gospel what makes you think I have to do that?

I can share the gospel with those who come across my path and I have the opportunity. I am not repsonsible for their accepting it or rejecting it. That is each persons decision.

So what have you achieved by your post? Only to make me angry that you have played the GUILT card to make people feel they have to share the gospel.

If you want to encourage people to share the gospel you need to reach people in an appropriate way. Guilt should not be our motive for sharing the gospel.

 

[TouchTestimony]

Are you here to guilt people into sharing the Gospel 24 hours a day 7 days a week?

You know I've got to sleep and while I sleep there are many people dying without Jesus.

It isn't my responsibility to make people receive Christ. Not even Jesus had the responsibility of making some one accept salvation. No one can make another person repent and recieve forgiveness for their sins through Christ.

Jesus came and preached to the Jews. It was the apostles who took the gospel message out further than Israel. So if Jesus didn't go to the whole world with the Gospel what makes you think I have to do that?

I can share the gospel with those who come across my path and I have the opportunity. I am not repsonsible for their accepting it or rejecting it. That is each persons decision.

So what have you achieved by your post? Only to make me angry that you have played the GUILT card to make people feel they have to share the gospel.

If you want to encourage people to share the gospel you need to reach people in an appropriate way. Guilt should not be our motive for sharing the gospel.

Apologies for having angered you. I was going for realization, not guilt. God Bless.

 

[dannibear]

I can see where you are coming from with this. It is like the video I
watched on youtube called 'letter from hell.' (Or so I remember.)

It was the voice of someone's friend who was sent to hell, all because his
friend didn't want to share the gospel with him. Maybe he was embarrassed.
Maybe he was shy. But those are not good excuses for not sharing the gospel.
That video changed my whole perspective, and now I mention Jesus almost every day in my conversations. I have lost some friends because of it, but if they didn't respect my beliefs, why would I want those friends anyway?

I don't think you were putting guilt on anyone, you did state that you asked yourself that question. The post made me ask myself the same question.
And now I am tearing up, wondering....

What if my friends go to hell? I love Jessica, Andrew, Ashley, Michael, Thomas, and many more friends so much, I don't want them to go to hell.
Why have I not mentioned Jesus more? They might have seen me carrying my Bible to my next class, but none of them are in my free period class to see me read it, to question me about it, for me to share it with them. For them to go to hell...I can't sit here and let them. I love the strangers around me too much for anyone to go there.

So you are right...why am I not doing more? I spend too much time at home anyway. Why aren't I out doing what God planned for me to do?
No, you have not made me feel guilty. This is a wake-up call. What am I doing right now? Chatting on my laptop, still in my pajamas. What am I going to do this time again next week? Help my neighbor with her yard work. Talk to her about Jesus. The next day? Feed the homeless man behind Wal-Mart I kept driving by. He needs God's love too. What I will do after that? Only God will know and give to me. Thank you. You put it in a good perspective for me.

 

[TouchTestimony]

I can see where you are coming from with this. It is like the video I
watched on youtube called 'letter from hell.' (Or so I remember.)

It was the voice of someone's friend who was sent to hell, all because his
friend didn't want to share the gospel with him. Maybe he was embarrassed.
Maybe he was shy. But those are not good excuses for not sharing the gospel.
That video changed my whole perspective, and now I mention Jesus almost every day in my conversations. I have lost some friends because of it, but if they didn't respect my beliefs, why would I want those friends anyway?

I don't think you were putting guilt on anyone, you did state that you asked yourself that question. The post made me ask myself the same question.
And now I am tearing up, wondering....

What if my friends go to hell? I love Jessica, Andrew, Ashley, Michael, Thomas, and many more friends so much, I don't want them to go to hell.
Why have I not mentioned Jesus more? They might have seen me carrying my Bible to my next class, but none of them are in my free period class to see me read it, to question me about it, for me to share it with them. For them to go to hell...I can't sit here and let them. I love the strangers around me too much for anyone to go there.

So you are right...why am I not doing more? I spend too much time at home anyway. Why aren't I out doing what God planned for me to do?
No, you have not made me feel guilty. This is a wake-up call. What am I doing right now? Chatting on my laptop, still in my pajamas. What am I going to do this time again next week? Help my neighbor with her yard work. Talk to her about Jesus. The next day? Feed the homeless man behind Wal-Mart I kept driving by. He needs God's love too. What I will do after that? Only God will know and give to me. Thank you. You put it in a good perspective for me.

i'm glad this stirred something in you. continue to do the good work friend.

 

[dannibear]

This post came at such a great time!
I went across the street to help my neighbor Miss Jody, who just
retired last month from her nursing career. I helped her rake her yard,
and we talked a little, and then she started to cry, and I realized how
much she really missed her husband and brother. She is a widow
who doesn't have children and takes care of her mother.
I prayed with her and talked to her, and I feel so much closer to her.
Only God knew all this time how much she needed love and another
person's shoulder to lean on during her difficult time.

 

[TouchTestimony]

This post came at such a great time!
I went across the street to help my neighbor Miss Jody, who just
retired last month from her nursing career. I helped her rake her yard,
and we talked a little, and then she started to cry, and I realized how
much she really missed her husband and brother. She is a widow
who doesn't have children and takes care of her mother.
I prayed with her and talked to her, and I feel so much closer to her.
Only God knew all this time how much she needed love and another
person's shoulder to lean on during her difficult time.

a good deed, no matter how seemingly insignificant, is a good deed nevertheless

 

[Giggles4God]

Yes, we need to tell people about Jesus whenever we can, but we can't go around with that burden on our hearts because it isn't about us. It is all about Jesus and how He can work through us to help other people come to Him. I want to live my life so people will ask me where my joy comes from. How can I not be all upset about how this world is going down hill? I want to tell people why I'm more happy than sad. I want to point them to Jesus and say He alone can make you happy. But I know it isn't just my call. I can only do so much.

 

[jiggyfly]

And does anybody believe that in the time it took to read this, as many as 5 (or more) people just went there because they died without accepting Jesus Christ, the sacrifice made for our sins? I often ask myself, "If I really believe this, why am I not shouting God's Plan of Redemption from the rooftops" ?

I don't know, why aren't you?

 

[TouchTestimony]

I don't know, why aren't you?

I am now

 

[Strangederby]

No I don't believe in hell. If hell exsited and people were tortured for eternity then that would make me more moral than the creator of the universe. I mean I wouldnt want to allow someone to be tortured for a second let alone millions of people for eternity.

So I guess if you believe god exists and that he is evil then the concept of hell as a place of torture makes sense.

 

[jiggyfly]

I am now

That's great.

 

[MelodyC]

No I don't believe in hell. If hell exsited and people were tortured for eternity then that would make me more moral than the creator of the universe. I mean I wouldnt want to allow someone to be tortured for a second let alone millions of people for eternity.

So I guess if you believe god exists and that he is evil then the concept of hell as a place of torture makes sense.

You obviously do not know who God is and the concept of His judgement nor do you understand what morality is either.

Well that isn't surprising.

You see in Genesis we are given how God created us and the whole Universe.

That gives God the right to do whatever He wishes to you and me and the Universe He created without there being any evil intent or immorality. Why? God made us and He made the Universe and the Rules are His to create and enforce.

Your opinion doesn't count. You are not the creator. This is the big LIE sold to mankind by the Devil that somehow you can be God making up the rules of good and evil. The Devil can't be God either and you and I can't be God. Only God is God. So when He judges someone then He is not sinning. You see God is without sin because God fundmentally cannot disobey Himself. You see everthing He does isn't against His own Will and He isn't therefore immoral or unjust or evil.

ISA 29:16 You turn things upside down,
as if the potter were thought to be like the clay!
Shall what is formed say to him who formed it,
"He did not make me"?
Can the pot say of the potter,
"He knows nothing"?

In this scripture mankind is the clay pot and God is the potter.

You are fundamentally trying to tell your creater (the potter) how to make pots.

RO 9:19 One of you will say to me: "Then why does God still blame us? For who resists his will?" 20 But who are you, O man, to talk back to God? "Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, `Why did you make me like this?' " 21 Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for noble purposes and some for common use?

ISA 45:9 "Woe to him who quarrels with his Maker,
to him who is but a potsherd among the potsherds on the ground.
Does the clay say to the potter,
`What are you making?'
Does your work say,
`He has no hands'?

ISA 45:10 Woe to him who says to his father,
`What have you begotten?'
or to his mother,
`What have you brought to birth?'

ISA 45:11 "This is what the LORD says--
the Holy One of Israel, and its Maker:
Concerning things to come, do you question me about my children, or give me orders about the work of my hands?

ISA 45:12 It is I who made the earth and created mankind upon it.
My own hands stretched out the heavens; I marshaled their starry hosts.

I want to go on and tell you about the mercy of our Great God who though had mankind rebel against Him he stepped in as Jesus Christ and paid the price for our sins by dying on the Cross. God provides a scrafice of His own Son for our sins to enable mankind to repent and avoid being separated from Him for eternity and being sent to a palce of Eternal Torment.

The Bible tells us that the beggining of wisdom is FEAR of the Lord. Reverential Fear that understand God is your creator. Reverential Fear knowing you are not right with Him and he has the right to refuse you entry into Heaven.

Those that end up in a place of such Evil is because they CHOOSE to reject God's GIFT of salvation that He paid for by the BLOOD of His own Son.

So you think you are more moral than God? Think again.

 

[agua]

No I don't believe in hell. If hell exsited and people were tortured for eternity then that would make me more moral than the creator of the universe. I mean I wouldnt want to allow someone to be tortured for a second let alone millions of people for eternity.

So I guess if you believe god exists and that he is evil then the concept of hell as a place of torture makes sense.

G'day derby,
Hope to see you again in the chatroom where we can discuss your reasons for dismissing God further. Perfect justice is something we humans are not very good at understanding, so don't let this idea of hell and torture determine the nature of God for you. If you have any small spark of faith left please investigate this further.


Isa 42:1 "Behold! My Servant whom I uphold, My Elect One in whom My soul delights! I have put My Spirit upon Him; He will bring forth justice to the Gentiles.
Isa 42:2 He will not cry out, nor raise His voice, Nor cause His voice to be heard in the street.
Isa 42:3 A bruised reed He will not break, And smoking flax He will not quench; He will bring forth justice for truth.
Isa 42:4 He will not fail nor be discouraged, Till He has established justice in the earth; And the coastlands shall wait for His law."

 

[Fraction]

No one understands 100% why god does things. We can have some base knowledge of why. (It happens for a divine reason!) Are we gonna question him? Yes. Should we question? No. We do it anyway! A prime example of how everyone sins. (The fact that Salvation is an instant gift, being a christian is a process!) :embarasse

Yes we should be screaming it from the rooftops! We are human christians, we want it now! Once everyone in this world knows that god exists or even of his name he will come to us on this earth! Thats pretty much our primary goal, and our secondary one (which is right there close to the first) is to save as many as we can because we WUV them.

So why is there Hell? No one can really say. Have faith in Jesus Christ, God, and their teachings and we won't go there!

P.S. Just because we question does not mean we are without faith, it just means we are curious.

P.S.S. Don't ever forget that LOVE is the way to spread the word. With love it will spread, but with sin it will shy away! Love everyone, be understanding. Just because someone believes in something else, does not make them any less guilty than a believer. They just need a doctor and medicine, while true believers need only check ups! Respect and Kindness IS christianity!

 

[Thiscrosshurts]

P.S.S. Don't ever forget that LOVE is the way to spread the word. With love it will spread, but with sin it will shy away! Love everyone, be understanding. Just because someone believes in something else, does not make them any less guilty than a believer. They just need a doctor and medicine, while true believers need only check ups! Respect and Kindness IS christianity!

Amen and Amen:
We were called to preach the "gospel" the good news.
Turn or burn is not of "love".
When they see the flaws in the "hell" doctrine they will lose faith in the word and fall away.
Those brought into the kingdom by "falling in love" with the joy,peace and stability they see in "loving" believers will endure and persevere to fight for their new family.

 

[jiggyfly]

And does anybody believe that in the time it took to read this, as many as 5 (or more) people just went there because they died without accepting Jesus Christ, the sacrifice made for our sins? I often ask myself, "If I really believe this, why am I not shouting God's Plan of Redemption from the rooftops" ?

Isn't hell your motivation then?

 

[Strangederby]

Thank you for replying MelodyC & also agua and Fraction. I'd love to respond but I'm concerned it would be against the rules of this forum. You have a policy that states these forums are not a place to debate is that correct? For example I would not march into a church and argue with what the preacher was saying during a sermon as it would be disrespectful. So if this is the case but you would like to talk more feel free to suggest a different forum that would be more suitable.

 

[TouchTestimony]

Isn't hell your motivation then?

Wow! Is that what it seems like? I was going more towards being helpful :shock:

 

[Isla_Rose]

Yes

Every christian believes in hell....(Unless they are reading the Reader's Digest instead of the Bible)