does god punish/dicispline us?

[jculver]

Ive just read through these; Read through 1 Corinthians 10:6-10, 1 Corinthians 11:28-30, 1 John 5:16-17 and the story of Ananias and Sapphira in Acts 5. In each of these cases sin resulted in death

From what I can see in each of these cases there was no repentance happening. Could any one confirm this? I would be so grateful. I do my best but sometimes misinterpret scripture because of the wording

What do you notice in Acts 5? Why would God kill those 2? Surly worse sins have been committed by believers. The answer I believe is this:

When believers do something that affects the purity of the church, or a particular church, the church may be better off with that believer dead, so God kills them. Now notice in Acts 5 this was probably one of the first EVER Christian churches. So it is likely that God was making an example of them. A Pastor who has a problem of stealing from his church, well, the church might be better off without him.

I believe this is the type of sin being talked about in 1 John 5, "The sin leading to death". It is not a particular sin, per say, but maybe the final sin that a believer committs in which God decides that his church body is to be better off without him.

Anyway that is one view on the subject of "sins leading to death".

Slim I wonder if you couldn't greatly benefit from a study bible. Do you have a particular minister you like? Do they write commentaries? The bible has books as old as 4000 years now, and although God's Word lasts forever, the language involved can present to be an interpretive challenge.

I would highly recommend a Macarthur study bible. He is most in-line with what I believe, and his notes on each verse are extensive and reliable. I don't know how old you are, but you may think about investing in some bible studying tools, like a study bible, or if you have a particular book that you are struggling with maybe purchase a commentary on it by someone you trust? If you are younger maybe ask your parents for a study bible

I would love to help you brother as much as I can. Send me a private message and I'll let you know where you can get a study bible (I can't post the link here, the system won't let me).

Also, you have to understand that God takes your disorder into account when he judges your actions. He judges your heart. I had a minor OCD problem when I was a kid. I did maybe the same thing you are doing where in my head I would say, "I swear to God that I....", and I would just do it all the time. It was like I was scoring points or something when I swore to him and then it happened or I followed through. Also I had to pet my dogs the same number of times I assure you he understands. Anyway feel free to contact me or continue posting here if I can help you any further.

 

[slimsavery]

Thank you so much for your reply. I will send you a private message

After readig your reply i checked into Got Questions and found this. I am feeling so much better ( notice the unrepentant part ). I also went down and saw the pastor of a local christian church and talked through my problems. I feel as if a huge weight has been lifted. He told me God loves me one of his children and when he disciplines me it is out of love. I was totally honest with the pastor - explaining that I would sometimes do my compulsion not because i had to but because i wanted to see if it was beaten and if I could handle it. I now have a service to go to on Sunday as well. He told me also not to make any more promises to God and told me that when I made these promises God was looking down " saying there goes David - making promises he cant keep again" Like a child - and we are all children of God. With maturity comes understanding and that is what I have now. No more promises!

From Got Questions;


John 5:16 is one of the most difficult verses in the New Testament. Of all the interpretations out there, I have not found one that seems to answer all the questions concerning this verse. This best interpretation I have found is comparing this verse to what happened to Ananias and Sapphira in Acts 5:1-10 (see also 1 Corinthians 11:30). The “sin unto death” is deliberate, willful, continuous, unrepentant sin. God, in His grace, allows His children to sin without immediately punishing them. However, there comes a point when God will no longer allow a believer to continue in unrepentant sin. When this point is reached, God sometimes decides to punish a Christian, even to the point of taking his or her life.

That is what He did in Acts 5:1-10, and 1 Corinthians 11:28-32. This is perhaps what Paul described to the Corinthian church in 1 Corinthians 5:1-5. We are to pray for Christians who are sinning. However, there may come a time when God will no longer hear prayers for a sinning believer for whom He has determined that judgment is due. It is difficult to realize that there are times when it is just too late to pray for a person. God is good and just, we will just have to let Him decide when it is too late and trust His judgment