Doomsday

[Eric E Stahl]

Eric, do you chose to sin, or does God make you sin, and then send you to Hell for it?

Jeremiah 25:14-15 teaches that the Lord will send the cup of judgment to the whole earth. Don't you believe God has the right to judgment who ever he chooses to judge?

 

[SpiritLedEd]

This Scripture very clearly teaches that when the Jewish people are back in the land of Israel, the day of the Lord’s judgment is soon!

Are you speaking of man's timekeeping system or God's?; "But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years are like a day" (2 Pt 3:8). I agree that we need to keep watch, but its not ours to calculate how soon it will happen.

SLE

 

[amadeus2]

Are you speaking of man's timekeeping system or God's?; "But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years are like a day" (2 Pt 3:8). I agree that we need to keep watch, but its not ours to calculate how soon it will happen.

SLE

Yes, keep watch for we can never bank on tomorrow. All we ever have is now.

 

[Brad Huber]

Jeremiah 25:14-15 teaches that the Lord will send the cup of judgment to the whole earth. Don't you believe God has the right to judgment who ever he chooses to judge?

Yes of course, but you of course sidestepped answering my question, and sinse I answered in a simple way to your question, perhaps you might do the same for my question.

 

[Eric E Stahl]

Are you speaking of man's timekeeping system or God's?; "But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years are like a day" (2 Pt 3:8). I agree that we need to keep watch, but its not ours to calculate how soon it will happen.

SLE

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Ed,
Born again Christians are children of light and should know the signs for the day of the Lord. The rapture of the church comes before the day of the Lord so the signs are good for us. Peter said we should hasten unto the day of the Lord because we have the promise of the new heaven and earth.

2 Peter 3:10–15 KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

1 Thessalonians 5:1-6
5 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.


Amen! We are caught up before the day of the Lord.

 

[Eric E Stahl]

Yes, keep watch for we can never bank on tomorrow. All we ever have is now.

amadeus,

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amadeus,
Born again Christians are children of light and should know the signs for the day of the Lord. The rapture of the church comes before the day of the Lord so the signs are good for us. Peter said we should hasten unto the day of the Lord because we have the promise of the new heaven and earth.

2 Peter 3:10–15 KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

1 Thessalonians 5:1-6
5 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.


Amen! We are caught up before the day of the Lord.

 

[Eric E Stahl]

Eric, do you chose to sin, or does God make you sin, and then send you to Hell for it?

Brad,

Adam and Eve sinned so all people are born with a sin nature and are condemned to hell as soon as they reach an age where God determines they personally are accountable.

John 3:18
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

We must choose to ask for God to forgive us for sinning and accept Jesus as saviour and Lord to go to heaven and avoid hell.

Non Christians read these posts so be careful of the questions you ask.

 

[amadeus2]

amadeus,

amadeus,
Born again Christians are children of light and should know the signs for the day of the Lord. The rapture of the church comes before the day of the Lord so the signs are good for us. Peter said we should hasten unto the day of the Lord because we have the promise of the new heaven and earth.

"Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof." Matt 6:34

 

[Brad Huber]

Brad,

Adam and Eve sinned so all people are born with a sin nature and are condemned to hell as soon as they reach an age where God determines they personally are accountable.

John 3:18
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

We must choose to ask for God to forgive us for sinning and accept Jesus as saviour and Lord to go to heaven and avoid hell.

Non Christians read these posts so be careful of the questions you ask.

So you DO believe in free choice then. Thats a very important part of our faith!

 

[bgsda]

Hi all, Eric in post#2 you wrote "God wiil judge humans after Armageddon" then in a later post you say there is HELL. How can their be a Hell before someone is judged?

 

[Strypes]

It is December 21st, 2012...

I am still here and my thoughts on "Doomsday" are not to worry, God's plan will come to fruition.

This song by Jason Gray has a lyric that has been my mantra for a while now..

"I'm going to live like there is no tomorrow, Love like I'm on borrowed time, it is good to be Alive"

Talk Jesus | Christian Forums - Good To Be Alive - Official Lyric Video - Jason Gray

 

[DutchChristian]

"I'm going to live like there is no tomorrow, Love like I'm on borrowed time, it is good to be Alive"

Hello dear sister,

i am concerned please be careful not to place that "mantra" in you (nor your mind) as it is most certainly not of GOD, you will see this once / if you look carefully and pray for discernment.

Also if you watch and examine the music clip which yes it sounds great and my flesh likes this tune too but it does not glorify God but only man and his own ways and of self (man and self is placed at the center in this music overall promoting indifference with an overall attitude of don't worry relax with a bit of carelessness together with indifference towards others and especially towards GOD)

Of course i am not to decide what music someone listens to but Let us always be diligent to place our focus on the Lord continiously, a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump and this world and it's ways and also the flesh (yes, even our own flesh) are part of our biggest enemies.

i pray The LORD Reveal to you the true nature of this song, as it is carefully hidden.

And of course you can decide for yourself in what you allow but i am here just giving warning, because you have posted this music here publically. (Romans 14:22)

God Bless you,
dutch

 

[Eric E Stahl]

Strypes,
I understand what you mean. No one has the promise of tomorrow, as the rich man who built bigger barns found out. We must work diligently to win the people around us because they may not have another day!

 

[jari]

many of the book's theology that eric posts in here uses verses that have spiritual meaning like Isaiah 25:4–7 KJV but turn it to a prophecy. I'm very skeptical because i see no evidence that this would be the purpose of those verses? the author of the book seems more likely being using verses to support an idea than explain actual prophecy.

God bless

 

[Eric E Stahl]

many of the book's theology that eric posts in here uses verses that have spiritual meaning like Isaiah 25:4–7 KJV but turn it to a prophecy. I'm very skeptical because i see no evidence that this would be the purpose of those verses? the author of the book seems more likely being using verses to support an idea than explain actual prophecy.

God bless

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Jari,

Sorry for the long post, but you won’t understand without it.

Isaiah 4:2–4 KJV
2 In that day shall the branch of the Lord be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the earth shall be excellent and comely for them that are escaped of Israel.
3 And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:
4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning.

The only Jews to escape the judgment of fire will be the holy Jews who have turned back to the Lord and accepted Jesus as His Son. This is God’s ethnic cleansing of Israel by nuclear fire. Only one-third of the people in Israel will live through the great tribulation.

Isaiah 5:24–30 KJV
24 Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the Lord of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.
25 Therefore is the anger of the Lord kindled against his people, and he hath stretched forth his hand against them, and hath smitten them: and the hills did tremble, and their carcases were torn in the midst of the streets. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.
26 And he will lift up an ensign to the nations from far, and will hiss unto them from the end of the earth: and, behold, they shall come with speed swiftly:
27 None shall be weary nor stumble among them; none shall slumber nor sleep; neither shall the girdle of their loins be loosed, nor the latchet of their shoes be broken:
28 Whose arrows are sharp, and all their bows bent, their horses’ hoofs shall be counted like flint, and their wheels like a whirlwind:
29 Their roaring shall be like a lion, they shall roar like young lions: yea, they shall roar, and lay hold of the prey, and shall carry it away safe, and none shall deliver it.
30 And in that day they shall roar against them like the roaring of the sea: and if one look unto the land, behold darkness and sorrow, and the light is darkened in the heavens thereof.

The day is coming soon when the Lord will no longer tolerate the sin of Israel’s rejection of Jesus Christ. God will also judge the Gentile world for their rejection of Jesus. Verse twenty-four of Isaiah 5 describes the nuclear bomb vaporizing some of the unholy Jews whom God will ethnically cleanse by fire (Remember Isaiah 4:4). Isaiah 5:25–30 describes God’s calling of an ensign, or nation, from the other end of the earth to come to Israel, rescue some of the Jewish survivors, and take them safely as prey to a refuge on the other side of the world.

In the next passage, Isaiah 25 describes an atomic bomb attack on Israel. God will shield some of the holy or saved Jews who have turned back to the Lord at that time. Notice the hot cloud or mushroom cloud with the blast wave in verses four and five.
The heat from the shadow of a cloud will kill the attacking strangers from the Russian alliance listed in Ezekiel 38:1–6. Ezekiel also describes God sending the fire in Ezekiel 39:1–8. Notice in Isaiah 25:7 it says that the blast will destroy the protective layer of the atmosphere over every nation on earth.

Isaiah 25:1–7 KJV
25 O Lord, thou art my God; I will exalt thee, I will praise thy name; for thou hast done wonderful things; thy counsels of old are faithfulness and truth.
2 For thou hast made of a city an heap; of a defenced city a ruin: a palace of strangers to be no city; it shall never be built.
3 Therefore shall the strong people glorify thee, the city of the terrible
nations shall fear thee.
4 For thou hast been a strength to the poor, a strength to the needy in his distress, a refuge from the storm, a shadow from the heat, when the blast of the terrible ones is as a storm against the wall.
5 Thou shalt bring down the noise of strangers, as the heat in a dry place; even the heat with the shadow of a cloud: the branch of the terrible ones shall be brought low.
6 And in this mountain shall the Lord of hosts make unto all people a feast of fat things, a feast of wines on the lees, of fat things full of marrow, of wines on the lees well refined.
7 And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations.

In Isaiah 30:25–26, it says that the sun will become seven times stronger in the day of great slaughter. The day of great slaughter happens when the nuclear war takes place and the ozone layer is burned up as a scroll. Malachi 4:1 says that the earth will burn as an oven. In looking to the encyclopedia to see what parts of the atmosphere can burn, you will discover that the ozone is a triple oxygen molecule.
The ozone layer and the hydrogen layer are next to each other in the atmosphere above the earth. The chemical reaction when they burn is as follows:
Heat + oxygen + hydrogen = H2O (water) + greater heat

 

[jari]

does Lord make both nuclear weapon destroy atmosphere as well feast in the same mountain?

"And in this mountain shall the Lord of hosts make unto all people a feast of fat things, a feast of wines on the lees, of fat things full of marrow, of wines on the lees well refined."

i still think many the verses have spiritual meaning as well they are actual events.

but most of these seem to be past prophecies.

 

[Eric E Stahl]

does Lord make both nuclear weapon destroy atmosphere as well feast in the same mountain?

"And in this mountain shall the Lord of hosts make unto all people a feast of fat things, a feast of wines on the lees, of fat things full of marrow, of wines on the lees well refined."

i still think many the verses have spiritual meaning as well they are actual events.

but most of these seem to be past prophecies.

jari,

Ezekiel 39:4–8 KJV
4 Thou shalt fall upon the mountains of Israel, thou, and all thy bands, and the people that is with thee: I will give thee unto the ravenous birds of every sort, and to the beasts of the field to be devoured.
5 Thou shalt fall upon the open field: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord God.
6 And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the Lord.
7 So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the Lord, the Holy One in Israel.
8 Behold, it is come, and it is done, saith the Lord God; this is the day
whereof I have spoken.


The people are the feast for the animals and the birds when the fire falls.

 

[jari]

jari,

Ezekiel 39:4–8 KJV
4 Thou shalt fall upon the mountains of Israel, thou, and all thy bands, and the people that is with thee: I will give thee unto the ravenous birds of every sort, and to the beasts of the field to be devoured.
5 Thou shalt fall upon the open field: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord God.
6 And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the Lord.
7 So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the Lord, the Holy One in Israel.
8 Behold, it is come, and it is done, saith the Lord God; this is the day
whereof I have spoken.


The people are the feast for the animals and the birds when the fire falls.

kinda unhealthly feast for animals too eric those radiactive carcasses.. But how would the people come to know that: "and they shall know that I am the Lord." - if nations fire nuclear missiles. wars has never been able to prove for everybody that God has been on someones side in history. and with nuclear weapons only mans devices would get the praise ...

 

[Eric E Stahl]

kinda unhealthly feast for animals too eric those radiactive carcasses.. But how would the people come to know that: "and they shall know that I am the Lord." - if nations fire nuclear missiles. wars has never been able to prove for everybody that God has been on someones side in history. and with nuclear weapons only mans devices would get the praise ...

The reason the Jews know it is of the Lord is bible prophecy. The dead people and horses will be in the flyway of the birds that migrate from Africa north. Only 1/6 of the Russian alliance will survive.

 

[Warped Warriors]

Eric,

Isaiah 4:2-4, Isaiah 5:24-30, Isaiah 25:1-7, Isaiah 30:25-26, Malachi 4:1

Would you put the above verses you quote in chronological order in relation to:

Coalition of Palestinian nations - Psalms 83

Destruction of Damascus - Isaiah 17

Gog/Magog war - Ezekiel 38-39

Armageddon - Joel 3:14, Zechariah 12:4-9, Revelation 19:19-21

Thank you.

Only 1/6 of the Russian alliance will survive.

Quoting from the translation scholars of "The Amplified Bible" in regards to the surviving 1/6th.

"The number of dead bodies left after the great catastrophe which God will send upon Gog and his hosts would necessarily amount to several millions. Their graves would naturally interfere with traffic on the interstate highway. The dead will not be slain in battle. God will slay them by a great “cosmic catastrophe” (Ezek. 38:18-23). And not just some, but “all” of Gog’s multitude will die then (Ezek. 39:4, 11); before they have had a chance to use their weapons, God will strike them from their hands (Ezek. 39:3). That one-sixth of the horde from the north will be left alive, as the King James Version says (Ezek. 39:2), is without noted exception conceded to be a mistaken translation by all authorities of modern times."