FBI infiltrating and spying on Christian churches

[StewardoftheMystery]

Hawley Says the FBI Is 'Infiltrating' Churches, Spying on Americans

Tuesday on FNC's "Hannity," Sen. Josh Hawley (R-MO) accused the FBI of "infiltrating" churches and spying on Americans. | Clips

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Revelation 17:12-17

King James Version

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12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the ***** sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the *****, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.”

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

FBI Caught Putting Undercover Agents in Churches to Spy on Christians - LifeNews.com

The FBI used an undercover employee to inform its leaked analysis on domestic extremism among Catholic Americans, House Judiciary Committee Republican Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan revealed in a letter addressed to FBI Director Christopher Wray. The House Judiciary Committee issued a subpoena to Wray on...

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From the article….
Quote “The House Judiciary Committee issued a subpoena to Wray on Monday requesting records relating to its probe into the FBI’s “domestic violent extremism investigations against Catholic Americans,” CBS News reported. The investigation was initiated after the leak of a Jan. 23 FBI Richmond Field Office memo suggesting Roman Catholic groups who prefer the Latin mass are at risk of “anti-Semitic, anti-immigrant, anti-LGBTQ and white supremacist ideology.” (end quote)

So if your ideology is anti-LGBTQ (anti-sin) then you are, according to the FBI memo, a violent extremist ideology?

Do you see where this is going?

 

[Bob Carabbio]

FBI Caught Putting Undercover Agents in Churches to Spy on Christians - LifeNews.com

The FBI used an undercover employee to inform its leaked analysis on domestic extremism among Catholic Americans, House Judiciary Committee Republican Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan revealed in a letter addressed to FBI Director Christopher Wray. The House Judiciary Committee issued a subpoena to Wray on...

www.lifenews.com

From the article….
Quote “The House Judiciary Committee issued a subpoena to Wray on Monday requesting records relating to its probe into the FBI’s “domestic violent extremism investigations against Catholic Americans,” CBS News reported. The investigation was initiated after the leak of a Jan. 23 FBI Richmond Field Office memo suggesting Roman Catholic groups who prefer the Latin mass are at risk of “anti-Semitic, anti-immigrant, anti-LGBTQ and white supremacist ideology.” (end quote)

So if your ideology is anti-LGBTQ (anti-sin) then you are, according to the FBI memo, a violent extremist ideology?

Do you see where this is going?

Right where it's SUPPOSED TO GO. As we grind down to the end of the age, Christians will begin to experience REAL Persecution in the U.S. We haven't "resisted unto blood" yet (Heb 12:4) Folks in other countries haven't been as blessed.

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

When the FBI infiltrated other groups in the past that they deemed to be “violent extremist,” the FBI tends to edge people on and try to incite them to violence.

But I don’t see Christians taking this kind of bait in order to let the FBI entrap them. Also, for religious beliefs concerning sinful behavior to be labeled a crime, they would have to by pass the US constitution.

I think what these minions of Satan in the government will try to do is make speaking out against the Lgbtqxyz agenda a “hate crime” in order to prosecute and persecute Christians.

This making religious beliefs a crime is nothing new, look at what they did to Daniels 3 brethren, and to Daniel himself because of the laws they made up in order to persecute him.

So I would expect to see new laws having to be passed in order to carry out their war on Christ and Christians.

 

[Brother Paul]

So let me see if I get this straight? Josh Hawley who supports Senator Boon (who fights for the right of adults to marry and have sex with children as young as 12, and according to his own words rape them) and claims to support Qanon (who is allegedly against pedophilia) says on Sean Hannity (who admitted to lying to his viewers and did so for ratings and profit) that Wray and the assistant Director of the FBI (both appointed by Donald Trump) are having their people spyon “Christians” in general? Or are they only infiltrating and watching and listening to some, who believe the lies and desire to use violence against their opposition, to see how they are directing their flock (one of them in Texas told his flock to lock and load) and to do things absolutely opposite of the directions of and actions of the true Biblical Jesus. And this is what you are saying is something we should fight against? I am a Jesus-can and see that both these “parties” are corrupt, money hungry, power seeking entities. These children of Belial that would worship the golden image man and have hate for everyone different are NOT actual Christians (followers of Jesus). So here, publicly I am declaring that I will pray for you and all the lost, beguiled, gullible souls, that THINK they are saved but are not (Romans 8:9; Matthew 25:1-13), who would follow a lifelong goat into the judgment..


Now please grasp when I say this, that I also am against the LBGTQ lifestyle and rhetoric but I am not and can never be against the persons (hating the sin not the sinners) because while WE were yet sinners Christ died for the ungodly (that is YOU and ME and THEM). All sodomy is abominable to God whether Homo or Hetero but the weapons of OUR warfare are NOT carnal. If the FBI want to look at me, fine have at it, but I will be as Christ toward all of these sinners as He is always to me (and YOU).


So yes I believe these Trump appointed FBI people ARE infiltrating and spying on SOME Christians, but far from all, and these people (like Hawley) are NOT children of God (Matthew 7:21-23) and do NOT have the Spirit which is what we see and hear in Christ (Isaiah 58:6-12; Matthew 25:31-46). What I have written at His behest is 2 Timothy 3:16-17 applied. For all who have ears, let them hear.

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

So here, publicly I am declaring that I will pray for you and all the lost, beguiled, gullible souls, that THINK they are saved but are not (Romans 8:9; Matthew 25:1-13), who would follow a lifelong goat into the judgment..


Now please grasp when I say this, that I also am against the LBGTQ lifestyle and rhetoric but I am not and can never be against the persons (hating the sin not the sinners) because while WE were yet sinners Christ died for the ungodly (that is YOU and ME and THEM). All sodomy is abominable to God whether Homo or Hetero but the weapons of OUR warfare are NOT carnal. If the FBI want to look at me, fine have at it, but I will be as Christ toward all of these sinners as He is always to me (and YOU).


So yes I believe these Trump appointed FBI people ARE infiltrating and spying on SOME Christians, but far from all, and these people (like Hawley) are NOT children of God (Matthew 7:21-23) and do NOT have the Spirit which is what we see and hear in Christ (Isaiah 58:6-12; Matthew 25:31-46). What I have written at His behest is 2 Timothy 3:16-17 applied. For all who have ears, let them hear.

Wow, because I am against the government infiltrating and spying on churches who are against the LGBTQ agenda, I am a lost soul in your eyes?

Seems I have triggered another Liberal. I will remind you and others this is a conservative Christian site, not a leftist liberal site.

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

Here it is right on top of the header of the home page.

Please share Talk Jesus community on every platform you have to give conservatives an outlet and safe community to be apart of.”

 

[Brother Paul]

Wow, because I am against the government infiltrating and spying on churches who are against the LGBTQ agenda, I am a lost soul in your eyes?

Seems I have triggered another Liberal. I will remind you and others this is a conservative Christian site, not a leftist liberal site.

Thank you! I am not a liberal I am a follower of the Jesus of the Bible. I strive to think as He would think, do as He would do, try to see achieved what He was striving for and so on. My goal is to ever emulate Him. I do not care one way or the other about the ways of Politics here or any where else. I see BOTH groups of having some good ideas couched in a bunch of selfish power hungry AGENDA. That being said I stand by my response and we all must choose to whom their allegiance will be. Mine is to what is right in His eyes. and to love my neighbor as myself and to do unto others as I would have them do unto me.

Also, just to inform you I have voted conservative and supported the conservative's plans many many times in my 50 voting years and sometimes for the liberal plans, because this is America. Which ever plan lines up with what Jesus would be or do I will vote and support that. And finally, NO I am not happy with the FBI spying on anyone, just as I was vehemently against the Republican born Patriot Act which allows them to do this legally, but it is what it is. Maranatha, come soon Lord Jesus

 

[Hekuran]

Here it is right on top of the header of the home page.

Please share Talk Jesus community on every platform you have to give conservatives an outlet and safe community to be apart of.”

Brother Paul joined the site 10 years ago. Long before that home page message appeared. Differences in political opinion are minor compared to our unity in Christ.

 

[Brother Paul]

Here it is right on top of the header of the home page.

Please share Talk Jesus community on every platform you have to give conservatives an outlet and safe community to be apart of.”

Yes indeed. You have that outlet and are in a safe community. I would never want to harm you or see you harmed. I will however pray for you unless this harms you. If my praying for you brings you distress let me know and I will stop.

 

[Brother Paul]

Brother Paul joined the site 10 years ago. Long before that home page message appeared. Differences in political opinion are minor compared to our unity in Christ.

Amen! Let the Holy Spirit speak what He puts on our heart. Was I doctrinally incorrect? Where? I will seek Him on this.

 

[Hekuran]

Amen! Let the Holy Spirit speak what He puts on our heart. Was I doctrinally incorrect? Where? I will seek Him on this.

Nothing doctrinally incorrect as far as I can see

I do worry that as Jesus followers we are judging issues on the axis of left/right, conservative/progressive rather than the biblical values just/unjust, wise/foolish, compassionate/hard-hearted etc.

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

Thank you! I am not a liberal I am a follower of the Jesus of the Bible. I strive to think as He would think, do as He would do, try to see achieved what He was striving for and so on. My goal is to ever emulate Him. I do not care one way or the other about the ways of Politics here or any where else. I see BOTH groups of having some good ideas couched in a bunch of selfish power hungry AGENDA. That being said I stand by my response and we all must choose to whom their allegiance will be. Mine is to what is right in His eyes. and to love my neighbor as myself and to do unto others as I would have them do unto me.

Also, just to inform you I have voted conservative and supported the conservative's plans many many times in my 50 voting years and sometimes for the liberal plans, because this is America. Which ever plan lines up with what Jesus would be or do I will vote and support that. And finally, NO I am not happy with the FBI spying on anyone, just as I was vehemently against the Republican born Patriot Act which allows them to do this legally, but it is what it is. Maranatha, come soon Lord Jesus

Sure you are, your hatred for conservatives and conservative news sites proves you are indeed a leftist liberal. This is not the first time you have gone off in a rant with calling conservatives names and making false accusations because you hate conservative views. You can say you are not, but liberals are well known as being liars as well.

You can say your being Christ like, but Christ is not a false accuser of the brethren and a liar like yourself.

 

[PloughBoy]

The world will always be the world. Pilate had no fought with JESUS and Jesus Had no Fought with Pilate.
Jesus Before Pilate LUKE 23: 4
…3So Pilate asked Him, “Are You the King of the Jews?” “You have said so,” Jesus replied. 4Then Pilate said to the chief priests and the crowds, “I find no basis for a charge against this man.”

Rome had no problem with Jesus and Jesus had no problem with "Rome"

Mark 15:14
"Why?" asked Pilate. "What evil has He done?" But they shouted all the louder, "Crucify Him!"
The Government had no problem with Jesus and Jesus had no problem against The GOVERNMENT

Matthew 27:19,24
When he was set down on the judgment seat, his wife sent unto him, saying, Have thou nothing to do with that just man: for I have suffered many things this day in a dream because of him…

I do not call one time, that JESUS interfered or talked about against or against The GOVERNMENT.

The church and pastors is always trying to get someone else to do their dirty work. GOD sees.

John 19:6
When the chief priests therefore and officers saw him, they cried out, saying, Crucify him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Take ye him, and crucify him: for I find no fault in him.

When Pilate heard this he Got scared! Pilate end up getting converted, for real.
John 19:7 BSB
…6As soon as the chief priests and officers saw Him, they shouted, “Crucify Him! Crucify Him!” “You take Him and crucify Him,” Pilate replied, “for I find no basis for a charge against Him.” 7“We have a law,” answered the Jews, “andaccording to that law He must die, because He declared Himself to be the Son of God.” 8When Pilate heard this statement, he was even more afraid,…

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

Brother Paul joined the site 10 years ago. Long before that home page message appeared. Differences in political opinion are minor compared to our unity in Christ.

Telling a Christian they are not saved is not unity in Christ. Saying I am a lost, beguiled and gullible soul for posting a news article on the FBI infiltrating churches is not Christ like.

It is snowflake liberal like.

 

[Brother Paul]

Nothing doctrinally incorrect as far as I can see

I do worry that as Jesus followers we are judging issues on the axis of left/right, conservative/progressive rather than the biblical values just/unjust, wise/foolish, compassionate/hard-hearted etc.

Precisely!

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

Yes indeed. You have that outlet and are in a safe community. I would never want to harm you or see you harmed. I will however pray for you unless this harms you. If my praying for you brings you distress let me know and I will stop.

Then why is it when I post news from conservatives and conservative news sites you go off on a rant how they are white supremacists or they are pedos, and how I am not saved?

That is pure hatred toward me, toward conservatives and toward conservative views.

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

Here come his liberal buddies to the rescue. I think this so called “conservative Christian site” is infiltrated with leftist liberals.

Birds of the feather will flock together.

 

[Brother Paul]

Telling a Christian they are not saved is not unity in Christ. Saying I am a lost, beguiled and gullible soul for posting a news article on the FBI infiltrating churches is not Christ like.

It is snowflake liberal like.

Re-read it. I know AND is only a three letter word but separates you because I see in our time many of my brothers and sisters being persuaded without their realizing they are being persuaded.

The goat that caused all this conflict was ever a financially questionable, continuous adulterous, person with control issues, who has NEVER cared for the poor, showed concern for feeding the hungry, Never wanted to offer healing freely to those who would come seeking. He never ever cared about the fatherless, or the oppressed. He inspires people to want to kill and hurt others to prop himself up because he is continuously self glorifying. So where is Jesus in that or the fruit of that tree? I do not see Him there at all.

FBI spies? They've always done that, only since just after 9/11 it became legal

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

Let the Holy Spirit speak what He puts on our heart.

The Holy Spirit does not call those who are of God’s Holy Spirit a “lost soul”. That is what the spirit of the accuser of the brethren does.