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Forgive and Forget?

Nan

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This has really been bothering me. Light and dark cannot dwell in the same place, so since Jesus abides in my heart, I can forgive people easily when they have hurt me. But could someone please tell me how to forget? I know the Word says that if I have accepted Jesus as my Savior I am to be like Him. The Word says He not only forgives me but forgets my sins. I know I am supposed to take control of my thoughts. To me that is sooo hard. How do I forgive and forget?


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Honestly, I'm thinking if you cannot forget, you simply did not fully and sincerely forgive. I could be wrong about this. Have you prayed to GOD that the Holy Spirit will help you fully forgive and forget? That would be the greatest step to take of course.
 
Chad, I have thought about that also...have I really forgiven? I pray and feel that I truly have, and then something will remind me, and it's like I am reliving the hurt all over again. Nan
 
Why not just forgive and forget thinking of how to forget? When you are trying to forget sth, you are keeping it in mind much deeper. Keep your eyes on light, but remember there is somewhere in darkness. To forgive doesn't mean you should forget everything. If you did forget it, then where is forgiveness?
If people hurted you, you should forgive them, and don't think much about their bad deeds. But you do have some memories of these, and by these you can know whether they are changing or not. Christians should have good memories, just make good use of our memories.
May God open our hearts to forgive our brothers and sisters, for none of us are righteous.
One more thing, God seems remembering everything we did, for the last day.
 
Hello Nan - we have a lot to live up to when we commit ourselves to the ways of the Lord. I imagine others will be critical of you but not me. I appreciate the limits of our humanity, our strengths and our weaknesses. Like you I have been hurt - hard and often and I pray each day "Lord forgive those who hurt me and help me also to forgive them" I tend to "park" the forgetting issue somewhere in my mind and focus on prayers for those who hurt me by remembering Jesus's words "Father forgive them for they know not what they do" . Dont be so hard on yourself - you have asked God to forgive them and in time as with bereavement the hurtful memories will ease and be replaced by happy memories and the joy of having those you love around you.The most important aspect for me is to ensure there is no malice in your soul against them. Give the problem over to God - ask Him for His guidance and the answer will come. My advice is not scholastic or entirely Biblical but it is built on the values I was reared on and I hope it helps you.

Nicholas.
 
Forgiveness

Chad, After posting to this thread I noticed your previous thread on forgiveness. :embarasse Look before you leap, is that in the bible.
 
Nan, our minds are not equipped to forget occurrences unless an occurence (from childhood) was so traumatic that the mind has graciously blocked out the memory.

To forgive, is to forgive, period. The phrase, "forgive and forget" is not in the bible as referring to us as humans. GOD can choose to forget our sins as He forgives sin and casts it into the sea. We are not God and His ways and thoughts are higher than ours.

What happens to our mind when we forgive? First of all, when we forgive others, God forgives our many sins against Him. He cannot do this until we forgive others.

Ephesians 4:31,32: "All bitterness, anger and wrath, insult and slander must be removed from you, along with all wickedness. And be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving one another, just as God also forgave you in Christ."

Second of all, as you forgive, God begins to shed His light into your being!:sun: Eph. 5:1,2 "Therefore, be imitators of God, as dearly loved children. And walk in love, as the Messiah also loved us and gave Himself for us, a sacrificial and fragrant offering to God."

The negative memories are still there, yet God begins to show us truths about the reality of His love. He heals our memories. That does not mean that He erases them. He helps us to understand that He was there and saw and felt what happened to you.

Positive memories really do have the chance to come forth in your mind, after forgiving. Sometimes unforgiveness can even block positive memories.

I lived in darkness for many years of adulthood, bound up in a prison of my own making, unforgiving of my parents and my grandmother.

It was actually right before I forgave these people that God brought to my memory several negative occurences that I had previously "blocked" from my mind. (The mind of a human is a complex creation of God, who can understand it?)

For days, as I prayed to God for healing, I experienced very unpleasant flashbacks. They were intense and real. It was as if I was a child all over again, as if I was right there in the pain, and hearing their cruel words. I had to turn to the Lord for solace concerning these flashbacks. (I believe that the Lord was allowing these flashbacks so that I could give the pain to Him.)

Then I finally asked the Lord to take all that pain and I forgave the people who had acted in wrong ways against me. (I was 30 years old at this time of forgiveness, but I was like a small child. I was immature because of the anger I held in so many years.)

Since that time (although I am definitely not grown up yet!!!:love: ) I have grown in Christ and He has showed me many good memories. I look at the bad memories in a different way. I look at them with Christ's Light all over them and around them. Yes, there are shadows where there is light. But my mind does not need to dwell among the shadows.

Think on these things. Things that are true, of good report. "Finally brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable--if there is any moral excellence and if there is any praise--dwell on these things. Do what you have learned and received and heard and seen in Me, and the God of peace will be with you."
Philippians 4:8,9

That does not mean the bad memories are gone. But you have other things to think upon, and ask God to give you the grace to do so!

Read the Bible when you are overcome by remembering offenses against you. Make sure that you have sincerely prayed to forgive these offenses and offenders. And then move on.

:angry: Sometimes the enemy brings about thoughts of offenses when he senses that we've already forgiven these occurences and people. He does this to confuse us and bring up darkness and muck that you and the Lord have already taken care of!

Say to the enemy: "I already gave these things to Jesus, satan, so go away and leave me alone." Then read the Word of God and dwell in Him.

If there are any offenses that you have not given over to God and forgiven, then God will bring these to your mind as you ask Him. A part of our daily prayer should be asking God to show us if there is anyone we need to forgive.
Even if you have not forgiven the rude, thoughtless cashier at the Pharmacy, God knows it, and He can bring it to your mind so that you can forgive and cast those thoughts away.

Nan, it sounds like you are having reoccuring thoughts about someone in your past and you have already forgiven this person(s) If you are not sure if you have truly forgiven, then simply ask your Father. Simply pray and ask Him for guidance in the matter. He is more than happy to assist you and will enfold you in His love.

Unforgiveness is sin and it blocks your relationship with God. Keep in mind, however, that satan can give us false guilt to try to block our relationship with God. The only One who truly matters in this equation is God and you.
Kick the enemy out when he comes around bothering you.
 
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One way I know when I have truly forgiven someone is that I begin to have
compassion for them.
 
Thank you

Thank you all for the responses to my forgiving and forgetting. The Lord has opened my eyes through your words based upon His Word. I will remember them. What a gift I have received from the Lord! :present:
 
Good Question!

This has really been bothering me. Light and dark cannot dwell in the same place, so since Jesus abides in my heart, I can forgive people easily when they have hurt me. But could someone please tell me how to forget? I know the Word says that if I have accepted Jesus as my Savior I am to be like Him. The Word says He not only forgives me but forgets my sins. I know I am supposed to take control of my thoughts. To me that is sooo hard. How do I forgive and forget?


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That's a very good question!

Maybe those hurt feelings comes on because you don't understand the actions of this person who has hurt you?

Truth is we're human & therefore we're imperfect, and we have feelings.

Some of us are very, very sensitive. So, when we get hurt we may find that we have a weakness, that causes us to dwell on that hurt feeling.

Being a Christian we want to forgive & (hope to} forget.

But forgetting isn't as easy as forgiving or so, as we think.

Maybe the truth is that we want to be more like GOD & Christ Jesus,
but in turn we are discovering a weakness with in ourselves.

All I can say is go to The Almighty GOD in prayer, through Christ Jesus & be patient.

Remember too, you (might) have a weakness in - forgetting - which could make it hard on yourself or even hard to forgive.

If this weakness is a habit. Habits don't go away as easy or as quick as we like them to.

Be patient with yourself to change. When ever you feel a bad memory of someone that has hurt you coming to mind, go & do something to take your mind off it.

I find reading can be very beneficial. Anything that brings comfort to you & makes you feel content or at ease.


Luke 8:15
But, the seeds which fell on good soil are like the people who when they listen to the message with a good, honest heart, obey it and patiently produce fruit.

Luke 8:17
Everything which is hidden will become clear. Every secret thing will be made known.''
 
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Re: Forgive and forget

For a long, long time I had issues with things my late mother-in-law did in raising my wife, things I didn't really learn about until after I got married to her daughter. But, as a result of what I've learned in Alcoholics Anonymous and in my study of co-dependency, I learned that she had not grown up in a mentally healthy family. There was no clinical insanity in her family that I know of, but they were dysfunctional to the max and they had passed their dysfunctional ways on to her. This helped me to develop compassion for her; which, in turn, helped me to forgive her.

But, I soon learned that forgiveness is not a one time thing. For a long time, whenever I thought of her for longer than a split second, anger would rear its ugly head and build to near rage. I found that each time when memory of her brought anger, I would have to forgive anew. In the beginning, this would happen more than a few times a day.But gradually, as I persisted with the forgiveness, compassion for her grew because I began to realize that she had had a messed up life. Now I feel mostly compassion toward her (still a little anger sometimes, but anger is diminishing) and I have fewer recurrences of the problem.

I found a very potent Scripture verse that helps me with this issue:

"...and we take every thought captive to make it obedient to Christ Jesus."
(2 Cor 10:5b)


SLE
 
Excellent and real example, SLE. I got excited as I read your post, because it explains the reality of forgiveness: that it's a process.

After I forgave my grandmother many years ago...I thought I was all done forgiving. It was quite evident that I hated my grandmother, but I had succeeded in masking my hostility toward my parents, I suppose because it's socially unacceptable.

Emotions can hide. But God knows they are there. God brings out memories and emotions in me only when I'm ready to receive them. He is a healing God.

I love the way you explained part of your forgiveness process, SLE.

I had no idea what true forgiveness was, until I came to Christ. I was completely blind spiritually until He saved me.
 
Luke 17:3-4

Now, you have some wonderful examples to guide you.

Here are 2 Scriptures from the Bible, where Jesus speaks to Peter, about forgiveness.

Luke 17:3-4
3 Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.
4 And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.


Sometimes, having understanding toward the one hurting you, helps us to forgive, too. As what SpiritLedEd was saying in his post.

It may not always be as easy to forgive, as we may like to think, but at least we try. And continue to do so, and continue to do so with The Almighty GOD & with Christ Jesus {& His teachings}.

{Exodus 6:3} * May The Almighty GOD, bless you as you try to do HIS will.
 
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Thank you Jonah

Thank you for taking time to resond, Jonah. You have shown me some things to think about. Blessings, fellow Christian. Nan :rose:
 
Thank you for taking time to resond, Jonah. You have shown me some things to think about. Blessings, fellow Christian. Nan :rose:

You're welcome, anytime Nan.

May we always, give thanks to The Almighty GOD for HIS WORD & for sending Christ Jesus, into our lives. {John 1:14 & Revelation 19:13}

Let the Word of Christ, in all its richness, find a home with you. Teach each other, and advise each other, in all wisdom. With gratitude in your hearts sing psalms and hymns and inspired songs to God;

Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honor, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
{Colossians 3:16 & Revelation 7:12}
 
Also remember these words of Jesus {Christ} below.

Woe to you when all men speak well of you, For so did their fathers to the false prophets.
"But I say to you who hear: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,
"bless those who curse you, and pray for those who spitefully use you.

{Luke 6:26-28} & {Luke 6:26-42}
 
Forgiveness

Preaching on forgiveness has always worried me. It may be that it has been wrong preaching or it may be that has been incomplete preaching but to forgive without the offending person repenting is not biblical. Please correct me if I am wrong. What saith the scriptures on the subject?

Lu 17:3 Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.
4 And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.

I would have thought that was clear enough for anybody to understand.

Forgiveness without repentance is not biblical. Of course the object of the offence ought not to bear a grudge.
 
When I met my wife.
She would have fits.
She hated her dad ,He was very evil to her and her sister and brother.
I told her she must forgive him.She said she wanted him dead.
I know her she must ask the LORD ,to replace the hate with LOVE.
She did!
After that.She had no more fits
Sometimes, we cannot on our own ,do these things. We need our LORD to do them , HE will.
He waits 24/7 for us to ask HIM.
He will never force us.But is willing ,if we are?
We understand , many cannot help but do evil. we live in flesh ,that has a sin full nature.
plus satan is doing everything to hurt us .we battle both daily.
we being a spirit dwelling in weak flesh.
GOD is the FATHER of spirits!
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Also remember these words of Jesus {Christ} below.

Woe to you when all men speak well of you, For so did their fathers to the false prophets.
"But I say to you who hear: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,
"bless those who curse you, and pray for those who spitefully use you.

{Luke 6:26-28} & {Luke 6:26-42}
Proverbs 24:17 Do not rejoice when your enemy falls, and do not let your heart be glad when he stumbles;

Now this doesn't mean to move in with them or to start hanging out with them.

For it is writen in
1Corinthians 15:33 Do not be misled: "Bad company corrupts good character."

Proverbs 13:20, Exodus 23:2

BUT, then again if they would like to hang out with you, this would be ok,

ONLY if they are willing to do the things we know The Almighty GOD & Christ Jesus would want us to do and NOT behave in away we know The Almighty GOD & Christ Jesus would NOT want us to.

You can love to your enemies by showing good hospitality, and trying to be understand toward them with a gentle kind heart. Treating them as you would want them to treat you. And by praying for them.
{Matthew 5:44-48}

{Proverbs 9:6 Forsake foolishness and live, and go in the way of understanding}.

Praying to GOD, asking HIM to warm their heart, soul & mind to do the same toward you. And asking HIM to pour out HIS Holy Spirit down upon you & them.

Exodus 23:4-5
 
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WE MUST forgive , No matter what!
But,You know ,we do not have to bless ?
But, All reap what they sow! WE sow LOVE and TRUTH.
It is not going to be accepted by all!
Deeper trues are rejected quickly by many , even in HIS body!
I have seen ,even my brothers and sisters reject me , bnecause , they did not understand!
still we love them and forgive them quickly!
Many do not even know the LORD, They are bliind, Would we want the blind to suffer? No of course not!
We will forgive them .
Of course there are some , given over to satan , they seek to destory truth and the church!
They understand fully , they are without love or mercy!
I do not think ,we are to hate any , But sin its self!
satan has caused all evil upon the earth!
once he is gone.
Peace comes to us and the earth!
2Ti 4:14 Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works:
Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
 
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