Welcome!

By registering with us, you'll be able to discuss, share and private message with other members of our community.

SignUp Now!
  • Welcome to Talk Jesus Christian Forums

    Celebrating 20 Years!

    A bible based, Jesus Christ centered community.

    Register Log In

From what exactly did Jesus's sacrifice "save" us?

I noticed that this thread hasn't received any replies yet. Could it be that the resident pontificates have no answer? ;)

Your title asks: "FROM WHAT EXACTLY DID JESUS'S SACRIFICE "SAVE" US?"

While there are a number of elements to a complete answer, the first and foremost is that Jesus "saves us" from the misapprehension that sin is to be paid for. When one looks closely at only Jesus' teachings, he clearly teaches that the Father forgives sin when one repents - no payment is needed, let alone a human blood sacrifice like the Pagan Romans and the Aztecs.

In many parables Jesus presents sin as a debt to both men and God. And a debt may either be paid for, OR forgiven. Jesus gave his entire life - up to and including death, suffering torture upon the cross, to preach that it is the will of the Father to forgive sin when asked in repentance.

So, the teachings of Jesus show us the way to be forgiven of our sins and receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit (whatever one might think that to be). And that's what He died for. To bring us the truth. His Resurrection proves that His teachings were true.

Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:​
(Acts 13:38 KJV)

Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.​
(Acts 2:38 KJV)

Blessings in the truth of the teachings of Jesus,
Rhema

(This should get your thread going... :innocent: )
 
We are saved from the requirement of Yehovah's Law. Since the first man sinned, all mankind has sinned and by The Law is doomed to spend Eternity in The Lake of Fire. On the other hand, failure to repent and to try to obey The Ten Commandments by accepting the presence of Ruah, the Holy Spirit in your Spiritual Heart leaves you in the constant state of unrepented sin, bound for punishment.

I pray you will repent.
 
  1. Sin: Jesus saves us from our sins. Matthew 1:21 says, "She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins"
    . Additionally, 1 John 1:7-9 emphasizes that Jesus' blood cleanses us from all sin.

  2. Death: Jesus saves us from spiritual death. Romans 6:23 states, "For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord"

  3. Power of Satan: Jesus' death and resurrection broke the power of Satan over humanity. Hebrews 2:14-15 explains, "Since therefore the children share in flesh and blood, he himself likewise partook of the same things, that through death he might destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil, and deliver all those who through fear of death were subject to lifelong slavery"

 
We are saved from the requirement of Yehovah's Law.
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets:​
(Matthew 5:17 KJV)

Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.​
(Matthew 5:19 KJV)

Rhema

@Marston (This is why Bill doesn't like me.... :( )
 
For the wages of sin is death

All unrighteousness is sin

Your iniquities have separated you from your God..

God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life

(⁠ʘ⁠ᴗ⁠ʘ⁠✿⁠)
 
We are saved from the requirement of Yehovah's Law.

I think partially true.

  1. Romans 7:6: "But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code"

  2. Galatians 3:13: "Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, 'Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree'"

  3. Romans 10:4: "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes
What is the new way of the Spirit vs the old way of the written law? According to the sermon on the mount the new way is more
strict than the old written law. You have to love your enemies now. You can't divorce your wife because you don't like her anymore.
Lust is the same as adultery now. Hating someone is the same as murder now.

The entire book of Galatians is mostly about circumcision. It's mentioned over a dozen times there, that was a ceremonial law.

1Jn 2:3 By this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments.
1Jn 2:4 The one who says, "I have come to know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him;

1Cor 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but what matters is the keeping of the commandments of God.

1Jn 3:24 The one who keeps His commandments abides in Christ, and Christ in him. We know by this that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.
 
Thanks in advance!
The following are two verses that give an answer to what did the death of Jesus save those having faith from:

"She will bear a son, and you are to name him Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.” (Mat 1:21 NRSVue)

"For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. Indeed, rarely will anyone die for a righteous person—though perhaps for a good person someone might actually dare to die. But God proves his love for us in that while we still were sinners Christ died for us. Much more surely, therefore, since we have now been justified by his blood, will we be saved through him from the wrath of God. For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, much more surely, having been reconciled, will we be saved by his life." (Rom 5:6-10 NRSVue)
 
I think partially true.

  1. Romans 7:6: "But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code"

  2. Galatians 3:13: "Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, 'Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree'"

  3. Romans 10:4: "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes
What is the new way of the Spirit vs the old way of the written law? According to the sermon on the mount the new way is more
strict than the old written law. You have to love your enemies now. You can't divorce your wife because you don't like her anymore.
Lust is the same as adultery now. Hating someone is the same as murder now.

The entire book of Galatians is mostly about circumcision. It's mentioned over a dozen times there, that was a ceremonial law.

1Jn 2:3 By this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments.
1Jn 2:4 The one who says, "I have come to know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him;

1Cor 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but what matters is the keeping of the commandments of God.

1Jn 3:24 The one who keeps His commandments abides in Christ, and Christ in him. We know by this that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.

Thanks in advance!

'From what exactly did Jesus's sacrifice "save" us?'

Ultimately. because Jesus made a way for those of us who put our complete faith into Him and what He did to save us, has saved us from having to spend eternally listening to the boasting and bragging all of the holier than thou self-righteous pride filled legalists boasting and bragging about how they deserve to be in the Kingdom of Heaven.
 
  • For the wages of sin is death

All unrighteousness is sin

Your iniquities have separated you from your God..

God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life

(⁠ʘ⁠ᴗ⁠ʘ⁠✿⁠)
 
Amen! A very short but sweet post. I would like to go into more in depth detail from the Scriptures so as to elaborate for any unsaved people reading this.


  • HE WHO PUTS HIS TRUST IN THE SON HAS LIFE THAT LASTS FOREVER. He who does not put his trust in the Son will not have life, but the anger of God is on him. (John 3:36)


That is extremely vital information about how we get saved. Now, what is said below is vital for ensuring that you have a saving faith rather than a misplaced faith that cannot save you.


  • They replied, “We want to do what God requires, too. What should we do?” Jesus told them, “This is the only thing God requires from you: That you BELIEVE IN THE ONE HE HAS SENT.” (John 6:28-29)


Salvation is all about putting our trust/faith/belief into Jesus and what He's done to save us so that we can be born again of God's Holy Spirit and be saved. Where salvation is concerned, we need to look to the Savior, not our behavior, because our behavior isn't something we want to be putting our faith into.


  • The Lord looks down from heaven on all mankind to see if there are any who understand, any who seek God. All have turned away, all have become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one. (Psalm 14:2-3)

  • We are all like one who is unclean, all our so-called righteous acts are like a menstrual rag in your sight. We all wither like a leaf; our sins carry us away like the wind. (Isaiah 64:6)


Thankfully, God has sent Jesus to institute His New Covenant where through our faith in Him, He cleanses us of our sins by His shed blood so that we can live in peace with God and rejoice in His amazing love and grace.


  • God saved you by his grace WHEN YOU BELIEVED. And you can’t take credit for this; it is a gift from God. (Ephesians 2:8)

  • Salvation is NOT a reward for the good things we have done, so none of us can boast about it. (Ephesians 2:9)


What is cited above deals with our salvation/union with the Lord. The next verse cited below explains how we are to live now that we are no longer living in the realm of the flesh but are living in the realm of the Spirit where we live in fellowship/communion with the Lord. This is where we live out our faith by doing good works in the Spirit, now, rather than in the flesh, like we did before we got saved and born again of God.


  • For we are God’s masterpiece. He has created us anew IN Christ Jesus, so we can do the good things he planned for us long ago. (Ephesians 2:10)


First we must get saved through putting our faith 100% into Jesus and what He did to save us. There is no other requirement put on us by God where salvation/union is concerned. And once we're saved and in union with the Lord, it's time to enjoy fulfilling our great commission and doing the good works we were "created anew" (born again of God) to do.

So, that explained how we are to be born again of God and His Holy Spirit, through faith, so that we will no longer live in the realm of the flesh where we can't help but sin and displease God, but will now be pleasing to God because we'll have had the work of the devil (sin) destroyed in our lives by Jesus' sacrificial death, so that now we'll be able to live in the realm of the Spirit, in God's love, where we won't sin and can't sin because we've been born of God.



  • He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. (1 John 3:8)

  • Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God. (1 John 3:9)

So, if you want to live the way God wants you to live, in the realm of the Spirit, in a state of grace and love where you are permanently free from sin, rather than in the realm of the flesh where you cannot please God, and you cannot help but sin, then simply put your faith 100% into the sacrificial death of Jesus alone, so that you can be made a new creation that will never be condemned. That's an amazing love that God and Jesus have for us. \o/


  • Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God. (Romans 8:8)

  • The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. (Romans 8:7)

  • You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. (Romans 8:9)

  • Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death. (Romans 8:1-2)

  • For what the law was POWERLESS TO DO [make us right with God] because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh, in order that THE RIGHTEOUS REQUIREMENT OF THE LAW might be fully met IN US, WHO DO NOT LIVE ACCORDING TO THE FLESH BUT ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT. (Romans 8:1-4)

Now you know how to be 100% obedient to everything Jesus commands us. And wouldn't you know, He gives us a real a whopper of a command:

  • Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. (Matthew 5:48)

Now, even though that's a whopper of a command, praise the Lord for making us a way to be perfect (sinless) as He commands us to be.

  • By his one sacrifice he has forever set free from sin the people he brings to God. (Hebrews 10:14)

And for those who like to cite John 14:15 to try to make it seem that Jesus says we must keep His commands, or else! You're reading that verse backwards as if He's saying we will suffer condemnation and destruction for disobedience. But that's not what Jesus is saying at all:

  • If you love me, you will keep my commandments. (John 14:15)

I'd like to point out that Jesus wasn't/isn't threatening anybody. He's just stating the fact that if we love Him, we will obey His commandments BECAUSE WE LOVE HIM and want to please Him. We are NOT to be obedient out of fear of punishment. Those who are fearful lack the saving faith that we must possess.

I hope this helps people see how we get saved and how we are to live out our faith. I hope that I can help people live the perfect relationship that God desires to have with you. This is to show you precisely what the seed that fell on good ground looks like.
 
According to the sermon on the mount the new way is more strict than the old written law. You have to love your enemies now. You can't divorce your wife because you don't like her anymore. Lust is the same as adultery now. Hating someone is the same as murder now.
God really hates the sin of pride. Especially religious pride. So when Jesus taught His Sermon on the Mount, He was pretty much giving the Pharisees a slap in the face by telling them that as outwardly obedient as they were to the Old Covenant Law, that inwardly they were sinners just like everyone the Pharisees considered to be beneath them. Jesus was declaring war on the holier than thou self-righteous Pharisees and those who hypocritically looked down on others for being sinners even though they were sinners themselves.

Jesus was making the point that it's impossible for man, who has a sinful nature (the flesh) to live under the Old Covenant Law and truly be obedient to it in the way that it requires us to be in order for us to have a right standing with God. This inability to be under the Old Covenant Law and be in a right standing with God is why Jesus came to die and institute His New Covenant in His blood.

The Old Covenant Law's whole purpose was to get mankind to be right with God. But sadly, the religious leaders, the Pharisees, were incorrectly teaching the Israelites that a right standing with God was possible under the Old Covenant Law. But the Old Covenant Law was designed to get people right with God by TEACHING them that they're hopelessly lost sinners so that they would be forced to look to their Savior, Jesus their Messiah, in faith, to make them right with God since they couldn't do it for themselves.

Does the Law disagree with God's promises? No, it doesn't! If any law could give life to us, we could become acceptable to God by obeying that law. But the Scriptures say that sin controls everyone, so that God's promises will be for anyone who has faith in Jesus Christ. The Law controlled us and kept us under its power until the time came when we would have faith. In fact, THE LAW WAS TO BE OUR TEACHER until Christ came. Then we could have faith and be acceptable to God. But once a person has learned to have faith, there is no more need to have the Law as a TEACHER. (Galatians 3:21-25)

for it was through reading the Scripture that I came to realize that I could never find God’s favor by trying—and failing—to obey the laws. I came to realize that acceptance with God comes by believing in Christ. I have been crucified with Christ: and I myself no longer live, but Christ lives in me. And the real life I now have within this body is a result of my trusting in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. I am not one of those who treats Christ’s death as meaningless. For if we could be saved by keeping Jewish laws, then there was no need for Christ to die. (Galatians 2:19-21)

Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to... Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are. (Matthew 23:13,15)

Then Jesus told this story to some who had great confidence in their own righteousness and scorned everyone else: “Two men went to the Temple to pray. One was a Pharisee, and the other was a despised tax collector. The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed this prayer: ‘I thank you, God, that I am not like other people—cheaters, sinners, adulterers. I’m certainly not like that tax collector! I fast twice a week, and I give you a tenth of my income.’ But the tax collector stood at a distance and dared not even lift his eyes to heaven as he prayed. Instead, he beat his chest in sorrow, saying, ‘O God, be merciful to me, for I am a sinner.’ I tell you, this sinner, not the Pharisee, returned home justified before God. For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.” (Luke 18:9-14)
 
Back
Top