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Genesis 1:27

Word of Life

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I was in Genesis today and I did read these chapters some time back and that was well over year ago and that was before I was saved, but today, these two scriptures stuck out at me and it threw me totally.

Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Now, when reading Genesis chapter 1, I read the above scripture (Gen 1:27), God created man.

But when going onto Gen 2:7, He formed man (Adam). What is God saying in Gen 1:27 then?

If you read further on, from each scriptures:

Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

In the above verse, God tells man to multiply, etc:

But Eve wasn't made yet, that's how I read it. As Eve only came into existence in Chapter 2:22

Gen 2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
 
Can anyone give me an aswer to my topic as its rather confusing me. Because as I see it and read it, God created man in Gen 1.27 and God asked them to multiply, but when you get to Gen 2:7 He formed man. What does this mean?

As when you go on further, God only made Eve.

Gen 2:21 And the Lord God sent a deep sleep on the man, and took one of the bones from his side while he was sleeping, joining up the flesh again in its place:

Gen 2:22 And the bone which the Lord God had taken from the man he made into a woman, and took her to the
man.

How could man multiply if God hadn't created Eve, in Gen 1.27?
 
God is always ahead of us. Hearing His word, we run with it. It is the Word of the Lord.

"God is not a man that He should lie, neither the son of man that he should change His mind............."
 
Word of Life said:
I was in Genesis today and I did read these chapters some time back and that was well over year ago and that was before I was saved, but today, these two scriptures stuck out at me and it threw me totally.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them
Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Now, when reading Genesis chapter 1, I read the above scripture (Gen 1:27), God created man.
But when going onto Gen 2:7, He formed man (Adam). What is God saying in Gen 1:27 then?
If you read further on, from each scriptures:
Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
In the above verse, God tells man to multiply, etc:
But Eve wasn't made yet, that's how I read it. As Eve only came into existence in Chapter 2:22
Gen 2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

Excellent observation of Scripture.

In Genesis 1:27, as you have quoted above, that Man was created "Male and Female He created them."

In Genesis 2:22, the manner of Woman's creation is more fully told. And here, at the start of the human race, at the outset of Sacred Writ, is ordained the divine origin and sanctity of Marriage: One Man and One Woman, One Flesh - Genesis 2:24.

It seems that God had many ways to "create" and "form" Man. Evidently, the Female that was created in Genesis 1:27 was not a "comparable helper" for Man. That is when, God, made His second creation of Woman by "taking one of Adam's ribs, and then closing up the flesh in its place. Then the rib which the Lord God had taken from man he made into a woman, and He brought her to the man."

It seems that this "woman" was now more "comparable" to Man then the "Female" created in Genesis 1:27, because Adam said, "This is now bone of my bones And flesh of my flesh; She shall be called Woman, Because she was taken out of Man."

These passages, in Genesis, about Man is similar to the age-old question that is asked by children and a lot of adults:

Who Made God?

Just about every child asks this question. And no one can answer it. There are some things beyond us. We cannot conceive of the Beginning of Time, nor the End of Time, nor the Boundaries of Space.

The world has been in existence Always, or, it was Made out of Nothing; one, or the other; yet we can conceive of neither. This we do know: the highest of all things within reach of our thinking is Personality, Mind, Intelligence Where did it come from? Could the Inanimate create Intelligence?

In FAITH we accept, as the Ultimate in our thinking, a Power higher than ourselves, GOD, in hope that some day, in the beyond, we shall understand the mysteries of existence.

Hope this helps.

God Bless
 
Hi Dan, welcome to Talk Jesus.
What are you saying? Are you saying, like Adam, God created some first woman from the dust of the earth, but then she wasn't good enough so he did "something" with her and started over with a "better" plan by making Eve from Adam's rib? Where would you get an idea like that?

The suggestion that there was some "first woman" who failed to compare is ultimately contradicted by God's complete response to original sin. God restored man in the judgement of the Expulsion and the age of innocence ended. He did not destroy them and start from scratch.

Hi, Word of Life, welcome to Talk Jesus.
It seems you are trying to read the Bible like a novel where everything is laid out in a perfect chronological order of events. The format or style of the books of the Bible are more complex and poetic than most books you would pull from the library shelf. This is not to say that the Scriptures are mere poetry, but that the style and structure is poetically formed. You should also take into consideration the difference in the manner of speaking or writing in past times, places and cultures.

The first mention in Gen 1 is an introduction to the concept of the creation of man (and woman). The mention in Gen 2 is a more descriptive narration of the same exact event; the creation of Adam and Eve.

I hope this helps both you and Dan understand these verses better. GBU both.
Amen!:love:
 
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Thanks for your replies in helping me to understand this more clearly.

After reading your replies to my question, I was thinking more about this on the way to work this morning and what came to my mind as I was driving along, God tells us about creating male and female in His own image in Gen 1.27, well God is spirit, could God be refering to, that He created spirit first and when we go onto Gen 2.7 He only then formed the body and soul of man.
 
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Hi Dan, welcome to Talk Jesus.
What are you saying? Are you saying, like Adam, God created some first woman from the dust of the earth, but then she wasn't good enough so he did "something" with her and started over with a "better" plan by making Eve from Adam's rib? Where would you get an idea like that? The suggestion that there was some "first woman" who failed to compare is ultimately contradicted by God's complete response to original sin. God restored man in the judgement of the Expulsion and the age of innocence ended. He did not destroy them and start from scratch. The first mention in Gen 1 is an introduction to the concept of the creation of man (and woman). The mention in Gen 2 is a more descriptive narration of the same exact event; the creation of Adam and Eve. I hope this helps both you and Dan understand these verses better. GBU both.
Amen!:love:

If you read Genesis 1:24-31 it talks about the creation of Land Animals and MAN. On this Sixth day, the earth is at last ready for Man's abode. God made Man in HIS OWN IMAGE. God saw everything that He made, and it was "very good."

Genesis 1:27: "So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them."

Genesis 1:28: "Then God blessed them, and God said to them. "Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living that moves on the earth."

God, here, tells the "male and female" he created to "be fruitful and multiply." How they are to "be fruitful and multiply" the Bible doesn't say.

Genesis 2:7: "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.

This is where the Man [Adam] arrives on the scene.

Genesis 2:8: The Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden, and there he put the Man whom He had formed. [not the woman, but only the man].

Genesis 2:18-25: It had already been stated in Genesis 1:27 that Man was created "Male and Female." Here the manner of Woman's creation is more fully told.

Read the entire passage of Genesis 2:18-25, especially note where you see the word "comparable." This will tell you that previous creations, by God, of man [male and female] there was not a "helper comparable to him [Adam]" Therefore, God performed an additonal creation. "He made into woman" [Eve] a "helper" that was "comparable" to man [Adam]. [brackerts mine]

Adam confirms this creation by saying, "This is now bone of my bones, And flesh of my flesh; She shall be called Woman, Because whe was taken our of Man."

And, finally, in Genesis 2:25, we have the first marriage: "And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed."

God Bless
 
Word of Life said:
Thanks for your replies in helping me to understand this more clearly.
After reading your replies to my question, I was thinking more about this on the way to work this morning and what came to my mind as I was driving along, God tells us about creating male and female in His own image in Gen 1.27, well God is spirit, could God be refering to, that He created spirit first and when we go onto Gen 2.7 He only then formed the body and soul of man.

Excellent point!

There could be a lot of truth to what you said, because, Man [male and female] is comprised of spirit, soul and body.

So, God, could have created the 'spirit' part of man then breathing into man, and man became a living 'soul.' He then created the 'body' known as Adam and Eve to complete His creation.

God Bless
 
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I'm human, I could be wrong....

I will prayerfully study and meditate on this issue in the Spirit and will listen to Him on the matter.

God Bless!
Amen!:love:
 
As I said I would, I have spent some time today studying the Scriptures in the Spirit.

First, I would like to say that I am not here to debate Scripture. I'm participating in this discussion to learn and strive to speak truth only. I recognize that your understanding can differ from my own. I do not declare error in yours, nor righteousness in mine. Only God can reveal which understanding is Truth. I pray we are both open to the Truth and not determined to hold to any preconceived notion.

Having said that, I must say that I still cannot agree with your suggestion that the man and woman created on the sixth day in Genesis 1 were not the man (Adam) and woman (Eve) created in Genesis 2. I'll explain.

1. Examine the verses describing the creation of animal life in both chapters 1 and 2 of Genesis.(1:20-25, 2:18-19) We see the same pattern in these verses as those you draw out as evidence for your theory on the creation of man vs. the creation of Adam and Eve. This indicates that the reference to the creation in chapters 1 and 2 are one and the same.

2. Examine also Gen 2:5. <u>After</u> we are told of the creation of man in Gen 1:27-28, we are told in Gen 2:5 that "there <i>was not</i> a man to till the ground". So, Gen 2 returns to a time prior to the creation of man before recapping, in a more descriptive narrative, the creative act of Genesis 1:27-28.

3. Lastly, I don't know which version of the Bible you are reading, but the word comparable isn't present in verses 18-25 of my KJV. That's rather irrelevant, though. God speaks of Adam's need for an help meet within the context of creating and naming the animals. Even if we agree on the use of the term "comparable" we should easily recognize it's use in reference to the animals He had just created. There was no "comparable" help meet found among the animals, thus He created woman (Eve) from Adam's rib.

Again, I give my wisdom and intellect up to God. I ask that the Holy Spirit guide me in continued study and prayer over this issue and lead me into all truth. I also ask of the older members of Talk Jesus in whom I have learned to trust in Scriptural matters to weigh in on this issue. Amen.

Bless and be blessed, Dan.
Amen!:love:
 
In your Genesis 2:18-25 citation, the "previous creations" are animals, birds, fish, and insects. That block of Scripture refers to the time between the creation of the first man (male) and the first woman.


SLE
 
Amen! said:
As I said I would, I have spent some time today studying the Scriptures in the Spirit.
First, I would like to say that I am not here to debate Scripture. I'm participating in this discussion to learn and strive to speak truth only. I recognize that your understanding can differ from my own. I do not declare error in yours, nor righteousness in mine. Only God can reveal which understanding is Truth. I pray we are both open to the Truth and not determined to hold to any preconceived notion.
Having said that, I must say that I still cannot agree with your suggestion that the man and woman created on the sixth day in Genesis 1 were not the man (Adam) and woman (Eve) created in Genesis 2. I'll explain.
1. Examine the verses describing the creation of animal life in both chapters 1 and 2 of Genesis.(1:20-25, 2:18-19) We see the same pattern in these verses as those you draw out as evidence for your theory on the creation of man vs. the creation of Adam and Eve. This indicates that the reference to the creation in chapters 1 and 2 are one and the same.
2. Examine also Gen 2:5. <u>After</u> we are told of the creation of man in Gen 1:27-28, we are told in Gen 2:5 that "there <i>was not</i> a man to till the ground". So, Gen 2 returns to a time prior to the creation of man before recapping, in a more descriptive narrative, the creative act of Genesis 1:27-28.
3. Lastly, I don't know which version of the Bible you are reading, but the word comparable isn't present in verses 18-25 of my KJV. That's rather irrelevant, though. God speaks of Adam's need for an help meet within the context of creating and naming the animals. Even if we agree on the use of the term "comparable" we should easily recognize it's use in reference to the animals He had just created. There was no "comparable" help meet found among the animals, thus He created woman (Eve) from Adam's rib.
Again, I give my wisdom and intellect up to God. I ask that the Holy Spirit guide me in continued study and prayer over this issue and lead me into all truth. I also ask of the older members of Talk Jesus in whom I have learned to trust in Scriptural matters to weigh in on this issue. Amen.
Bless and be blessed, Dan.
Amen!:love:

I applaude you for the indepth study you have presented here. I can only, again, go back to my post which has covered the original questions posed by Word of Life:

If you read Genesis 1:24-31 it talks about the creation of Land Animals and MAN. On this Sixth day, the earth is at last ready for Man's abode. God made Man in HIS OWN IMAGE. God saw everything that He made, and it was "very good."


Genesis 1:27: "So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them."

Genesis 1:28: "Then God blessed them, and God said to them. "Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living that moves on the earth."

God, here, tells the "male and female" he created to "be fruitful and multiply." How they are to "be fruitful and multiply" the Bible doesn't say.

Genesis 2:7: "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being."

This is where the Man [Adam] arrives on the scene.

Genesis 2:8: The Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden, and there he put the Man whom He had formed. [not the woman, but only the man].

Genesis 2:18-25: It had already been stated in Genesis 1:27 that Man was created "Male and Female." Here the manner of Woman's creation is more fully told.

Read the entire passage of Genesis 2:18-25, especially note where you see the word "comparable." This will tell you that previous creations, by God, of man [male and female] there was not a "helper comparable to him [Adam]" Therefore, God performed an additional creation. "He made into woman" [Eve] a "helper" that was "comparable" to man [Adam]. [brackerts mine][word "comparable" is taken from the NKJV]

Adam confirms this creation by saying, "This is now bone of my bones, And flesh of my flesh; She shall be called Woman, Because whe was taken our of Man."

And, finally, in Genesis 2:25, we have the first marriage: "And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed."


God Bless
 
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SpiritLedEd said:
In your Genesis 2:18-25 citation, the "previous creations" are animals, birds, fish, and insects. That block of Scripture refers to the time between the creation of the first man (male) and the first woman.
SLE
Genesis 2:18: "And the LORD God said, "It is not good that man should be alone; I will make a helper comparable to him."

It also shows in verse 21 and 22 how God created Eve.

Verses 19 and 20, shows where God "forms" the animals, brings them to Adam and Adam names them. However, "there was not found a helper comparable to him [Adam]." [bracket mine].

We have seen where this passage of Scripture pertains to The Creation of Woman. It had already been stated in Genesis 1:27 that Man was created "Male and Female." Here the manner of Woman's creation is, as previously stated, more fully told.

God Bless
 
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The need for a study into this particular style of hebrew writing is necessary to answer the question. The book of Genisis is made up of 11 documents the first one ending with Gen. 2:3. Both accounts of God creating man and woman (Genisis chapter 1 and chapter 2) tell of the same event. There are many good books out there to help in this kind of study. It is however very lengthy and wordy and would not be beneficial to post here. So I encourage everyone that is interested in the answer to the question to persue the study themselves. I personally do not see the results being the increase of Christ in a person's life. But if one feels there is a need to know then by all means persue. I do assure everyone that at the end of a very lengthy study the truth will be it is two accounts of the same event in the same way that we have the synoptic gospels( Matthew, Mark, and Luke), three different accounts of the same events.
 
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jiggyfly said:
The need for a study into this particular style of hebrew writing is necessary to answer the question. The book of Genisis is made up of 11 documents the first one ending with Gen. 2:3. Both accounts of God creating man and woman (Genisis chapter 1 and chapter 2) tell of the same event. There are many good books out there to help in this kind of study. It is however very lengthy and wordy and would not be beneficial to post here. So I encourage everyone that is interested in the answer to the question to persue the study themselves. I personally do not see the results being the increase of Christ in a person's life. But if one feels there is a need to know then by all means persue. I do assure everyone that at the end of a very lengthy study the truth will be it is two accounts of the same event in the same way that we have the synoptic gospels( matthew, mark, and Luke), three different accounts of the same events.

Original question from Word of Life, was as follows:

"Can anyone give me an aswer to my topic as its rather confusing me.

Because as I see it and read it, God created man in Gen 1.27 and God asked them to multiply, but when you get to Gen 2:7 He formed man. What does this mean?

As when you go on further, God only made Eve.

Gen 2:21 And the Lord God sent a deep sleep on the man, and took one of the bones from his side while he was sleeping, joining up the flesh again in its place:

Gen 2:22 And the bone which the Lord God had taken from the man he made into a woman, and took her to the man.

How could man multiply if God hadn't created Eve, in Gen 1.27?


Let's approach this excellent question from a different angle.

The core of the creation account is that the human soul is immediately created by God. Adam and Eve were not referred to in the sixth day creation account of Genesis 1, nor was Eden established until Genesis 2--after the seven days of creation had ended.

Does that make sense so far?

At Genesis 2:7, God formed Adam, who is distinguished, it seems, from the generic man referred to in the sixth day - Genesis 1:28, by breathing life into him. God's breathing life into him such that he became a living being [soul] - Genesis 2:7.

Can we all agree on this, or not?

Other humans may have lived in the world prior to and during the lives of Adam and Eve. If not, then how do you explain the plural form at Genesis 1:27, "them." Its either "them" male and female, or "them" many males and females.

Are we together on that? I didn't say agree, just together.

Another problem is that if no other humans lived in the world during the time of Adam and Eve's fall, then the only way the male offspring of Adam and Eve could have begotten children was via incest with their mother, Eve. This is a very real possibilty, and the Bible is silent on how Adam and Eve's children, Cain and Seth, procreated. There is a mention that "Cain knew his wife" but there is no name mentioned.

Furthermore, how would we explain Genesis 5:1-2, where it says, "This is the book of the genealogy of Adam. In the day that God created man. He made him in the likeness of God. He created them male and female, and blessed "them" and called "them" Mankind in the day they were created."

Do you see now, why, I wanted to stick to the simple explanation that was offered in previous posts.
God Bless
 
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I would like to thank you all for your responses to my question, it certainly has given me some more food for thought, regarding my question.

DanV's response seems more logical to me, but I am not saying others are wrong here either. This in turn has just made me more determined to study the book of Genesis in more depth in finding the right answer, with the help of you wonderful people.

What I also noticed, God used two different kinds of words, to get the message across to us, thus by using the word created in Genesis chapter 1 and when going onto Chapter 2, the word formed is used rather than created. This is what got attention and to me thinking about all this in first place.

Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

But when going onto Chapter 2

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Gen 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

Now, if you formed something, in my logic, it was already in existence and created by God previously, so God didn't need to say or use the word create again, as in chapter 2, as He already had done this previously, when He created all these things/beasts/creatures/birds/man in chapter 1.

Now going back to Gen 1:27, God gave man dominion over everything.

Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

But God did not say this to Adam.

And going onto Cain, I will think more about that one, as for what I have been told, he married his sisters.
 
Okay, I am plodding along with this one and went onto Chapter 5,

Gen 5:1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
Gen 5:2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
Gen 5:3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:
 
Word of Life said:
I would like to thank you all for your responses to my question, it certainly has given me some more food for thought, regarding my question.

DanV's response seems more logical to me, but I am not saying others are wrong here either. This in turn has just made me more determined to study the book of Genesis in more depth in finding the right answer, with the help of you wonderful people.

What I also noticed, God used two different kinds of words, to get the message across to us, thus by using the word created in Genesis chapter 1 and when going onto Chapter 2, the word formed is used rather than created. This is what got attention and to me thinking about all this in first place.

Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

But when going onto Chapter 2

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Gen 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

Now, if you formed something, in my logic, it was already in existence and created by God previously, so God didn't need to say or use the word create again, as in chapter 2, as He already had done this previously, when He created all these things/beasts/creatures/birds/man in chapter 1.

Now going back to Gen 1:27, God gave man dominion over everything.
Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

But God did not say this to Adam.

And going onto Cain, I will think more about that one, as for what I have been told, he married his sisters.

Ever since this question concerning the context of Genesis 1 and 2 was asked by Word of Life, I have been doing research for answers to this question. Here is the lengthy explanation I came up with. With this post, hopefully, the question will be answered.

Skeptics have used Cain's wife time and again to try to discredit the Book of Genesis as a true historical record. Sadly, most Christians have not been able to give an adequate answer to this question. As a result, the world thinks Christians cannot defend the authority of Scripture and, thus, the Christian faith.

For instance, at the historic Scopes trial in Tennessee in 1925, William Jennings Bryan, the prosecutor who stood for the Christian faith, failed to answer the question about Cain's wife posed by the outspokenly anti-Christian ACLU lawyer Clarence Darrow.

The world's press was focused on this trial, and what they heard has affected Christianity to this day -- Christians are seen as unable to defend the biblical record. And skeptics then make the logically fallacious jump of concluding that the biblical record is indefensible!

The agnostic Carl Sagan used this same question in his book Contact (which was on The New York Times best-seller list), and the movie Contact, which was based on Sagan's book, also used it.

In the book, the fictional character Ellie could not get answers about Cain's wife, and other questions, from a minister's wife, who was the leader of a church discussion group.

Sagan cleverly used common questions -- such as "Who was Cain's wife?" -- questions that are often directed at Christians in an attempt to prove the Bible cannot be defended.

Sadly, most Christians probably could not answer these questions! And yet, there are answers. But, since most churches are lacking in the teaching of apologetics, particularly in regard to the Book of Genesis, most believers in the church are not "ready always to give an answer to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope in you" - 1 Peter 3:15.


Why Is It Important?


Many skeptics have claimed that, for Cain to find a wife, there must have been other "races" of people on the earth who were not descendants of Adam and Eve. To many people, this question is a stumbling block to accepting the creation account in Genesis and its record of only one man and woman at the beginning of history -- a record on which many Old and New Testament doctrines depend.

Defenders of the gospel must be able to show that all human beings are descendants of one man and one woman (Adam and Eve) -- as only those people who are descendants of Adam and Eve can be saved. Thus, believers need to be able to account for Cain's wife and show clearly that she was a descendant of Adam and Eve. (The relevant Bible passage is Genesis 4:1--5:5.).


The First Man


Therefore, even as through one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin, and so death passed on all men inasmuch as all sinned (Romans 5:12).
We read in 1 Corinthians 15:45 that Adam was "the first man." God did not start by making a whole group of men.

The Bible makes it clear that only the descendants of Adam can be saved. Romans 5 teaches that we sin because Adam sinned. The death penalty, which Adam received as judgment for his sin of rebellion, also passed on to all his descendants.

Since Adam was the head of the human race when he "fell," we who were in the loins of Adam "fell" also. Thus, we are all separated from God. The final consequence of sin would be separation from God in our sinful state forever. However, the good news is that there is a way for us to return to God!

Because a man brought sin and death into the world, all the descendants of Adam need a sinless Man to pay the penalty for sin and the resulting judgment of death. However, the Bible teaches that "all have sinned" (Romans 3:23). What is the solution?

The Last Adam

God provided the solution -- a way to deliver man from his wretched state. Paul explains in 1 Corinthians 15 that God provided another Adam! The Son of God took on a human nature in addition to His full divinity, becoming a perfect God-man -- Jesus Christ.

In His humanity He was a descendant of Adam (through Noah, Abraham and David) -- He thus became our relation! He is called "the last Adam" (1 Corinthians 15:45), because he took the place of the first Adam. He became the new head and, because he was sinless, He was able to pay the penalty for sin:

For since by a man came death, by a man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive (1 Corinthians 15:21-22).

Christ suffered death (the penalty for sin) on the cross, shedding his blood ("without shedding of blood is no remission" Hebrews 9:22) so that those who repent of their sin of rebellion and put their trust in His work on the cross can be reconciled to God.

Since the Bible describes all human beings as sinners, except the God-Man Jesus, and we are all related ("And He has made all nations of men of one blood to dwell on all the face of the earth" Acts 17:26), the gospel makes sense only on the basis that all humans alive and all who have ever lived are descendants of the first man Adam. If this were not so, then the gospel could not be explained or defended.

The Book of Hebrews amplifies how Jesus took upon himself the nature of a man to save mankind (Hebrews 2:11-18).

Thus, only descendants of the first man Adam can be saved.

All Related

Thus, there was only one man at the beginning -- made from the dust of the earth (Genesis 2:7).

This also means that Cain's wife was a descendant of Adam. She could not have come from another "race" of people and must be one of Adam's descendants.

The First Woman

In Genesis 3:20 we read, "And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living." In other words, all people are descendants of Adam and Eve -- she was the first woman.

Eve was made from Adam's rib (or side) (Genesis 2:21-24) -- this was a unique event. Jesus (Matthew 19:4-6) and Paul (Ephesians 5:31) use this historical and one-time event as the doctrinal foundation for the marriage of one man to one woman.

Also, in Genesis 2:20, we are told that when Adam looked at the animals, he could not find a mate -- there was no one of his kind.

All this makes it obvious that there was only one woman, Adam's wife, at the beginning. There were never any other women around who were not Eve's descendants.

If Christians cannot defend that all humans (including Cain's wife) can trace their ancestry ultimately to Adam and Eve, then how can they understand and explain the gospel? How can they justify sending missionaries to every tribe and nation? Therefore, one needs to be able to answer the question about Cain's wife, to illustrate that Christians can defend the gospel and all that it teaches.

Cain's Brothers and Sisters

Cain was the first child of Adam and Eve recorded in Scripture (Genesis 4:1). His brothers, Abel (Genesis 4:2) and Seth (Genesis 4:25), were part of the first generation of children ever born on this earth.

Even though only these three males are mentioned by name, Adam and Eve had other children. In Genesis 5:4 a statement sums up the life of Adam and Eve -- "And the days of Adam after he had fathered Seth were eight hundred years. And he fathered sons and daughters." This does not say when they were born. Many could have been born in the 130 years (Genesis 5:3) before Seth was born.

During their lives, Adam and Eve had a number of male and female children. The Jewish historian Josephus wrote that, "The number of Adam's children, as says the old tradition, was thirty-three sons and twenty-three daughters."
The Bible does not tell us how many children were born to Adam and Eve. However, considering their long life spans (Adam lived for 930 years -- Genesis 5:5), it would seem reasonable to suggest there were many!

The Wife

If we now work totally from Scripture, without any personal prejudices or other extra-biblical ideas, then back at the beginning, when there was only the first generation, brothers would have had to have married sisters or there would be no more generations!

We are not told when Cain married or any of the details of other marriages and children, but we can say for certain that some brothers had to marry their sisters at the beginning of human history.

But what about God's Laws?

Many people immediately reject the conclusion that Adam and Eve's sons and daughters married each other by appealing to the law against brother-sister intermarriage. Some say that you cannot marry your relation. Actually, if you don't marry your relation, you don't marry a human! A wife is related to her husband even before they marry because all people are descendants of Adam and Eve — all are of "one blood."

The law forbidding marriage between close relatives was not given until the time of Moses (Leviticus 18-20). Provided marriage was one man to one woman for life (based on Genesis 1 and 2), there was no disobedience to God's law originally when close relatives (even brothers and sisters) married each other.
Remember that Abraham married his half-sister (Genesis 20:12). God blessed this union to produce the Hebrew people through Isaac and Jacob. It was not until some 400 years later that God gave Moses laws that forbade such marriages.


Biological Deformities


Today, brothers and sisters (and half-brothers and half-sisters, etc.) are not permitted by law to marry because their children have an unacceptably high risk of being deformed. The more closely the parents are related, the more likely it is that any offspring will be deformed.

There is a very sound genetic reason for such laws that is easy to understand. Every person has two sets of genes, there being some 130,000 pairs that specify how a person is put together and functions. Each person inherits one gene of each pair from each parent. Unfortunately, genes today contain many mistakes (because of sin and the Curse), and these mistakes show up in a variety of ways. For instance, some people let their hair grow over their ears to hide the fact that one ear is lower than the other -- or perhaps someone's nose is not quite in the middle of his or her face, or someone's jaw is a little out of shape -- and so on. Let's face it, the main reason we call each other normal is because of our common agreement to do so!

The more distantly related parents are, the more likely it is that they will have different mistakes in their genes. Children, inheriting one set of genes from each parent, are likely to end up with pairs of genes containing a maximum of one bad gene in each pair. The good gene tends to override the bad so that a deformity (a serious one, anyway) does not occur. Instead of having totally deformed ears, for instance, a person may only have crooked ones! (Overall, though, the human race is slowly degenerating as mistakes accumulate, generation after generation).

However, the more closely related two people are, the more likely it is that they will have similar mistakes in their genes, since these have been inherited from the same parents. Therefore, a brother and a sister are more likely to have similar mistakes in their genes. A child of a union between such siblings could inherit the same bad gene on the same gene pair from both, resulting in two bad copies of the gene and serious defects.

Adam and Eve did not have accumulated genetic mistakes. When the first two people were created, they were physically perfect. Everything God made was "very good" (Genesis 1:31), so their genes were perfect -- no mistakes! But, when sin entered the world (because of Adam -- Genesis 3:6, Romans 5:12), God cursed the world so that the perfect creation then began to degenerate, that is, suffer death and decay (Romans 8:22). Over thousands of years, this degeneration has produced all sorts of genetic mistakes in living things.

Cain was in the first generation of children ever born. He (as well as his brothers and sisters) would have have received virtually no imperfect genes from Adam or Eve, since the effects of sin and the Curse would have been minimal to start with (it takes time for these copying errors to accumulate). In that situation, brother and sister could have married with God's approval, without any potential to produce deformed offspring.

By the time of Moses (a few thousand years later), degenerative mistakes would have built up in the human race to such an extent that it was necessary for God to forbid brother-sister (and close relative) marriage (Leviticus 18-20). (Also, there were plenty of people on the earth by then, and there was no reason for close relations to marry.)

Cain and the Land of Nod

Some claim that the passage in Genesis 4:16-17 means that Cain went to the land of Nod and found a wife. Thus, they can conclude there must have been another race of people on the earth, who were not descendants of Adam, who produced Cain's wife.

"And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bore Enoch: and he built a city, and he called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch."

From what has been stated previously, it is clear that all humans, Cain's wife included, are descendants of Adam. However, this passage does not say that Cain went to the land of Nod and found a wife.

Cain was married before he went to the land of Nod. He didn't find a wife there, but "knew" (had sexual relations with) his wife.

Others have argued that because Cain built a "city" in the land of Nod, there must have been a lot of people there. However, the Hebrew word translated as "city" need not mean what we might imagine from the connotations of "city" today. The word meant a "walled town" or a protected encampment. Even a hundred people would be plenty for such a "city." Nevertheless, there could have been many descendants of Adam on the earth by the time of Abel's death.

Who Was Cain Fearful Of? (Genesis 4:14)

Some claim that there had to be lots of people on earth other than Adam and Eve's descendants, otherwise Cain would not have been fearful of people wanting to slay him for killing Abel.

First of all, in the days before civil government was instituted to punish murderers (Genesis 9:6), someone would want to harm Cain for killing Abel only if they were closely related to Abel! Strangers could hardly have cared. So the people Cain was afraid of could not have been another race of people.
Second, Cain and Abel were born quite some time before Abel's death. Genesis 4:3 states:

"And in the course of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering to the Lord."

Note the phrase "in the course of time." We know that Seth was born when Adam was 130 years old (Genesis 5:3), and Eve saw him as a "replacement" for Abel (Genesis 4:25). Therefore, the period from Cain's birth to Abel's death may have been 100 years or more -- allowing plenty of time for other children of Adam and Eve to marry and have children and grandchildren. By the time Abel was killed, there could well have been a considerable number of descendants of Adam and Eve, involving several generations.

Where Did the Technology Come From?

Some claim that for Cain to go to the land of Nod and build a city he would have required a lot of technology that must have already been in that land, presumably developed by other "races."

However, Adam and Eve's descendants were very intelligent people. Jubal made musical instruments such as the harp and organ (Genesis 4:21), and Tubal-Cain worked with brass and iron (Genesis 4:22).

Because of intense evolutionary indoctrination, many people today think that our generation is the most intelligent that has ever lived on this planet. But just because we have jet airplanes and computers, it does not mean that we are the most intelligent. Modern technology results from the accumulation of knowledge. We stand on the shoulders of those who have gone before us.
Our brains have suffered from 6,000 years of the Curse (since Adam). We are greatly degenerated compared with people many generations ago. We may now be nowhere near as intelligent or inventive as Adam and Eve's children. Scripture gives us a glimpse of what appears to be great inventiveness from the beginning.

Conclusion

Many Christians cannot answer the question about Cain's wife because they focus on today's world (and the problems associated with close relations marrying), and do not understand the clear historical record God has given to us.

They try to interpret Genesis from our present situation, rather than understand the true biblical history of the world and the changes that have occurred because of sin. Because they are not building their world view on Scripture, but taking a secular way of thinking to the Bible, they are blinded to the simple answers.

Genesis is the record of the God who was there as history happened. It is the word of One who knows everything, and who is a reliable witness from the past. Thus, when we use Genesis as a basis for understanding history, we can make sense of questions that would otherwise be a mystery.

Sorry for this very long explanation, however, as Jesus plainly said in John 8:32, "And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."

God Bless
 
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Thank you for your wisdom and suggestions, Jiggyfly. God bless you.

I thought carefully before posting my objections to Dan's line of thinking on this subject. I usually avoid confrontation and/or debate, especially when it comes to something I really know so little about. I asked myself, however, how my objecting to Dan's POV could possibly glorify God and came up with the answer that prompted my postings: if Dan is misreading these verses, what other Scripture might he possibly be misreading? I know it is not for me to give Dan, or anyone else, understanding. That is God's work. IF Dan has erred and my efforts have no effect, God will find another way to get through to him. IF I have erred and Dan's efforts have no effect, God will find another way to get through to me. Either way, I objected out of love and a desire to help another avoid being misled about even the most seemingly insignificant part of Scripture. (That's not to say I believe any part of Scripture is actually insignificant.) God either layed it on my heart to speak up or I am being presumptuous and egotistic. I hope it's the former.

As for the issue being discussed, I have honestly considered, studied and prayed on it. I believe in the peace and understanding given me by the Holy Spirit. Since there are still two differing POV's, though, I pray the truth will be made manifest in whomever it need be. I also pray that we all can humble ourselves enough to admit that we do not/can not receive true understanding through our own intellect, but through the Spirit alone.

GBU all.
Amen!:love:
(Just an educated fool)
 
Thanks you DanV for posting that and doing a study on this too. That was very informative and has given me a much clearer picture on all things. I understand it much better now, as I read all the scriptures that was quoted in your above post.

I carried on reading upto chapter 6

Gen 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Gen 6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
Gen 6:7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

If God was grieved what was going on in those days, its probably breaking His heart seeing what’s happening down here now and today. It certainly breaks my heart.

God Bless you
 
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