Gift of Discernment

[Bill]

Absolutely, I can see who is genuine at church. Infiltration of the enemy is rife.

But be careful with that too making judgments on others because of what they seem to be or do not seem to be

Something I have found to be kind of helpful actually is when the darkness will try to make you not want to talk to someone by giving you a yucky feeling inside when you approach that person. So every time I feel that yucky feeling I purposefully will go to that person and talk to them doesn't always have to be about religion maybe they just need someone to talk with. You'll find quite often that that person is struggling inside and you just being there maybe for a cup of coffee just to listen to them is what they really needed

 

[Bill]

Don't let me dominate this conversation I want to hear from you guys it excites me spiritually to hear such good things from you

You remember in scripture how Elizabeth stated to marry the baby within my womb left for Joy at the end announcing of your coming

So does the Holy Spirit jump in me at the excitement of hearing you guys talk about the movement of the Holy Spirit within you and the movement of Jesus within you

 

[Waggles]

Does anyone here possess the gift of spiritual discernment? It is the ability to sense and feel the presence of both angels and demons.

It is not the gift of discernment but rather the gift in the church (Spirit-filled disciples) of discerning spirits
1Cor 12:10 and to another workings of powers; and to another prophecy; and to another discernings of spirits: to another kinds of tongues; and to another interpretation of tongues; [NENT]
(DRB) To another the working of miracles: to another, prophecy: to another, the discerning of spirits: to another, diverse kinds of tongues: to another, interpretation of speeches.
(LEB) to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing of spirits, to another kinds of tongues, to another interpretation of tongues.
(YLT) and to another in-workings of mighty deeds; and to another prophecy; and to another discernings of spirits; and to another divers kinds of tongues; and to another interpretation of tongues:

A notable and very essential gift for discipleship when prayed for in assistance to sorting out the truth concerning other doctrines, or the works of the enemy, or the source of alleged inspired best seller books.
For example, a friend who came to the Lord in our Pentecostal church left to join an extreme charismatic church and kept egging me on to join him over there.
Being new in the Lord I was confused and not sure if the claims to their signs and wonders were a better option for me to pursue. He was persuasive in his selling points.
So I got down on my knees and prayed in tongues to Jesus to show me which of the two churches HE approved of - which would be better for my walk.
Well I certainly received a revelation from the Lord on this issue, and suffice to say that I never left where the Lord had brought me to join that charismatic option.
God revealed to me that if a Spirit-filled disciple is not also in submission to the word of God then they make themselves vulnerable to the enemy and his deceits.

Col 2:18 Let no one rob you of a prize by voluntary humility and worship of the angels, dwelling in what things he hath seen, vainly puffed up by the mind of his flesh

 

[Bill]

It is not the gift of discernment but rather the gift in the church (Spirit-filled disciples) of discerning spirits
1Cor 12:10 and to another workings of powers; and to another prophecy; and to another discernings of spirits: to another kinds of tongues; and to another interpretation of tongues; [NENT]
(DRB) To another the working of miracles: to another, prophecy: to another, the discerning of spirits: to another, diverse kinds of tongues: to another, interpretation of speeches.
(LEB) to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing of spirits, to another kinds of tongues, to another interpretation of tongues.
(YLT) and to another in-workings of mighty deeds; and to another prophecy; and to another discernings of spirits; and to another divers kinds of tongues; and to another interpretation of tongues:

A notable and very essential gift for discipleship when prayed for in assistance to sorting out the truth concerning other doctrines, or the works of the enemy, or the source of alleged inspired best seller books.
For example, a friend who came to the Lord in our Pentecostal church left to join an extreme charismatic church and kept egging me on to join him over there.
Being new in the Lord I was confused and not sure if the claims to their signs and wonders were a better option for me to pursue. He was persuasive in his selling points.
So I got down on my knees and prayed in tongues to Jesus to show me which of the two churches HE approved of - which would be better for my walk.
Well I certainly received a revelation from the Lord on this issue, and suffice to say that I never left where the Lord had brought me to join that charismatic option.
God revealed to me that if a Spirit-filled disciple is not also in submission to the word of God then they make themselves vulnerable to the enemy and his deceits.

Col 2:18 Let no one rob you of a prize by voluntary humility and worship of the angels, dwelling in what things he hath seen, vainly puffed up by the mind of his flesh

The church cannot create anything of its own authority . So it is unclear what you are saying , at least to me .

God gives :

Gives the church authority
Gives individuals authority
Gives us the Holy Spirit and the Gifts of the Holy Spirit.

I have yet to see any church create

 

[*Lavender]

I enjoyed reading through this.
I agree with Bill that sometimes people in churches can need somebody to talk to. They can be depressed, lonely or anxious and that shouldn't be mixed up with them infiltrating.

Although there is a lot of infiltration because no church is perfect and does contain a lot of people who are not born again. Those who are without the life of the Holy Spirit within them, even if they can say the right things and appear that way.

In my opinion we just treat them with kindness and respect, within our walk with God and let God deal with that.

Even within the close circle around Jesus, there was Judas Iscariot. I know we need to be aware of these types of infiltrations of wolves in sheep's clothing, and walk closely with God to not be betrayed.

Sadly they can be entrusted by others and true children of God really need the help of God, and that involves walking closely and sensitively with Him, to overcome.

 

[Christina2000]

If anyone has read CS Lewis, he provides understanding of spiritual warfare through the characters in his books.

Many Christians simply refuse to or cannot understand how vital it is to be prepared for this, to put on the armour of God.

 

[Bill]

If anyone has read CS Lewis, he provides understanding of spiritual warfare through the characters in his books.

Many Christians simply refuse to or cannot understand how vital it is to be prepared for this, to put on the armour of God.

I've never read CS Lewis books except for the Narnia series however I can tell you a whole lot about spiritual warfare and we're in the armor of God

And I know others like myself that have been called to doing spiritual warfare alongside with the angels fighting the darkness. Although I can tell you plainly that I am probably the most vocal of any of those who I know. As I think it's important for Christians in general to hear about these things that go on unseen by most.

Some fights are just small with individual people and other fights are full scale War with millions of angels and demons in the midst of it.

I've been sent to so many places and it was something that I did want to talk about at this chat line long ago as I thought the Christians were mature enough to receive it. But as it was they were not only a few people here at talk Jesus even heard about it with a few exceptions who actually did the same type of work.

 

[Bill]

It's really sad in a way the faithful as they'd like to call themselves you have pretty much lost their faith and have turned into a body of people who only will accept anything if there's some proof in the scripture to it

They have traded their faith for confirmation only teaching

When was the last time anyone has seen a person like Peter to have faith to walk on the water and if Peter was living in today's age with the confirmation Concepts where in the scripture would he have pointed to to confirm it was okay to get out of the boat to meet Jesus on the water

 

[Christina2000]

It's really sad in a way the faithful as they'd like to call themselves you have pretty much lost their faith and have turned into a body of people who only will accept anything if there's some proof in the scripture to it

They have traded their faith for confirmation only teaching

When was the last time anyone has seen a person like Peter to have faith to walk on the water and if Peter was living in today's age with the confirmation Concepts where in the scripture would he have pointed to to confirm it was okay to get out of the boat to meet Jesus on the water

Absolutely. I have an open simple faith. I cannot believe how people have closed minds. Of course we cannot have proof and sight ourselves of everything. So much is invisible and not revealed to us. My attitude is both be aware and call on Jesus to rescue and shield us from the demons sent by the enemy.

I just bought a book by David Skeba, The Armor of God. It looks good and has information.


I love Peter's stepping into water story. That is just so relevant to us. When we take a chance, risk ourselves, while trusting Jesus we can achieve miracles.

 

[Bill]

Absolutely. I have an open simple faith. I cannot believe how people have closed minds. Of course we cannot have proof and sight ourselves of everything. So much is invisible and not revealed to us. My attitude is both be aware and call on Jesus to rescue and shield us from the demons sent by the enemy.

I just bought a book by David Skeba, The Armor of God. It looks good and has information.


I love Peter's stepping into water story. That is just so relevant to us. When we take a chance, risk ourselves, while trusting Jesus we can achieve miracles.

Yes indeed we can do miracles

I really love seeing the beauty of your faith. I was talking to my friend Brad Huber on the phone yesterday and I was telling him about this thread that you've started that I think is so beautiful to read

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Does anyone here possess the gift of spiritual discernment? It is the ability to sense and feel the presence of both angels and demons.

NOBODY "possesses gifts", they're Gifted to us by the Holy Spirit AS REQUIRED for the situation. I've been gifted to Interpret tongues now and again, but unless gifted again to do so, I'm totally incapable of it personally.

I (personally) don't think it has anything to do with "Angels", but it's the Gifted ability to discern, when a person speaks/interacts in a situation, which "Spirit" they are of.

Like Jesus and Peter - Peter says to Jesus: "You're the Christ", and Jesus recognizes that the HOLY SPIRIT has sourced that knowledge to Peter. (Mat 16:17)

But then Jesus tells of his death, and Peter rebukes Jesus for talking like that, and Jesus recognizes that Peter is speaking with SATANIC unction. (Mat 16:23)

 

[Christina2000]

Yes indeed we can do miracles

I really love seeing the beauty of your faith. I was talking to my friend Brad Huber on the phone yesterday and I was telling him about this thread that you've started that I think is so beautiful to read

It is wonderful how we can influence each other without realising.

 

[Christina2000]

By the way, this substantial book by David Skeba looks really interesting and is currently free on Kindle. I feel it has come at exactly the right time for me as I need this exact information.

 

[Bill]

NOBODY "possesses gifts", they're Gifted to us by the Holy Spirit AS REQUIRED for the situation. I've been gifted to Interpret tongues now and again, but unless gifted again to do so, I'm totally incapable of it personally.

I (personally) don't think it has anything to do with "Angels", but it's the Gifted ability to discern, when a person speaks/interacts in a situation, which "Spirit" they are of.

Like Jesus and Peter - Peter says to Jesus: "You're the Christ", and Jesus recognizes that the HOLY SPIRIT has sourced that knowledge to Peter. (Mat 16:17)

But then Jesus tells of his death, and Peter rebukes Jesus for talking like that, and Jesus recognizes that Peter is speaking with SATANIC unction. (Mat 16:23)

I understand what you are saying . From my experience , i know we should never put a cap on what God will do . It is often the opposite of what WE think God ought to do

 

[Bill]

By the way, this substantial book by David Skeba looks really interesting and is currently free on Kindle. I feel it has come at exactly the right time for me as I need this exact information.

I will have to take a peek at it, sometime when i am more awake

 

[Bob Carabbio]

From my experience , i know we should never put a cap on what God will do . It is often the opposite of what WE think God ought to do

NO Argument there, y'all!!!

 

[Christina2000]

I understand what you are saying . From my experience , i know we should never put a cap on what God will do . It is often the opposite of what WE think God ought to do

Indeed, how can we know what is best? I just put my problems in Jesus' hands and trust. He has never let me down. We have to be willing to accept that solutions to problems are often uncomfortable but necessary in the long term.