God has always had me look at What this world has done to People to cause these problems and It alway have been hard for me to bear I am always kind
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Subject heading:- 'God has always had me look at what this world has done to people to cause these problems
'We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves.
Let every one of us please his neighbour for his good to edification.
For even Christ pleased not Himself; but, as it is written,
The reproaches of them that reproached thee fell on Me.
For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning,
that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.'
(Rom 15:1-4)
Hello there,
It is the wickedness that is difficult to endure: when you read of 'People Trafficking' and all the inhumanity, and unkindness of man to the weak and the vulnerable. So I can understand why @PloughBoy longs for the coming of the Lord, Who will rule the world in righteousness. It is He Who will rule with a rod of iron:- ' Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.' (Psalm 2:9).
Psa. 9:8 'And He shall judge the world in righteousness, He shall minister judgment to the people in uprightness.'
Psa. 96:13 ' ... for He cometh, for He cometh to judge the earth: He shall judge the world with righteousness, and the people with His truth.'
Psa. 98:9 ' ... for He cometh to judge the earth: with righteousness shall He judge the world, and the people with equity.'
'The LORD also will be a refuge for the oppressed, a refuge in times of trouble.' (Psa 9:9)
Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
and it always has been hard for me to bear. I am always kind.'
'We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves.
Let every one of us please his neighbour for his good to edification.
For even Christ pleased not Himself; but, as it is written,
The reproaches of them that reproached thee fell on Me.
For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning,
that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.'
(Rom 15:1-4)
Hello there,
It is the wickedness that is difficult to endure: when you read of 'People Trafficking' and all the inhumanity, and unkindness of man to the weak and the vulnerable. So I can understand why @PloughBoy longs for the coming of the Lord, Who will rule the world in righteousness. It is He Who will rule with a rod of iron:- ' Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.' (Psalm 2:9).
Psa. 9:8 'And He shall judge the world in righteousness, He shall minister judgment to the people in uprightness.'
Psa. 96:13 ' ... for He cometh, for He cometh to judge the earth: He shall judge the world with righteousness, and the people with His truth.'
Psa. 98:9 ' ... for He cometh to judge the earth: with righteousness shall He judge the world, and the people with equity.'
'The LORD also will be a refuge for the oppressed, a refuge in times of trouble.' (Psa 9:9)
Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
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I guess I did not explain it, as a "New Creature" in Christ. Because, we can never understand this world as A Human being. But Once we became a "New Creature" meaning A "Real Heavenly Creature, Born of GOD" Now we are different and Not a earthly minded creature no more. For now we are A Born of GOD, and Now He personally is teaching us about it all. Even Before The World existed , He has Told us about us. And Why all Created things exists and for what Purpose The dead and the Quicken. The Purposes of GOD.
So all of that time before "me and we" were "Born of GOD' we knew nothing, but only "Speculations" about GOD and All Creation. Nothing But "Speculations". Nothing Absolute what so ever.
As as we Beginning to Grow in Christ, just like we grew from a human baby, Our Father start Training us and Teaching us and Discipline us , harsh and Severe to corrected us like a "loving Father" The Mighty Discipline Hand of THE ALMIGHTY GOD' So that we will not be Condemn with his world.
And All of the pains and sorrows we have experience is liken to "the materials" he place in us, to shape us and mold us into the creature that he wants us to be., for we are special, "BORN OF GOD" And Not Born Of Our Own Selves. we are not like other people of this WORLD.
and most christians do not believe it. and we thank God, that we are "save by grace" we were saved before we believe., The God our Father, Start teaching us How to believe in God and His Son after We began Born of GOD, The baby came to birth, and Heaven fed the Milk. And how sweet it is,
So it is a gift from "GOD" to entertain such Suffering and Being Taught By GOD for Another Kingdom, a Kingdom That is Been Prepared BY "GOD THE FATHER" and Not the SON, For OUR FATHER has Is going to Give Us, And Our Big Brother "Jesus Christ" A GIFT that "NO eyes or Ears" have every seen,
Since many do not know How Great Our Father is. He is giving us, a 'Gift" but, Really "The GIFT" is For His ONLY SON, and we are going to Share that Gift with Jesus Christ" The Son of God do not even Knows what it looks like or is. It is GIFT FROM HIS FATHER! we are evil and do not deserve Nothing, It is HIS SON, In who he Loves.
So, He is shaping us in a creature Just Like "the SON of GOD" no more, it is like taking a piece of "DUNG" and making something new,, That only "GOD the FATHER" can do, He is Creating us, In Christ Jesus" to be just like HIM. and all of the ingredients this world is in us, being created, in "Jesus Christ" because he created everything
Now that is Love, Our FATHER has done all of this to created his SON a Gift.
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I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil; I am the LORD, that doeth all these things.
Isaiah 42:16
I will lead the blind by a way they did not know; I will guide them on unfamiliar paths. I will turn darkness into light before them and rough places into level ground. These things I will do for them, and I will not forsake them.
Isaiah 47:11
But disaster will come upon you; you will not know how to charm it away. A calamity will befall you that you will be unable to ward off. Devastation will happen to you suddenly and unexpectedly.
For Our God is great and He has not fail and everything The good the bad the suffering and pains all are according to his will. For he is "GOD' and There is no other, And His will is Always done, and Nothing can Stand in His way, Or divert His plans.
For his ways are nothing like our ways or thoughts! No matter how will think, even what we think is good, is evil to Him. That is how far His ways are from ours.
But we as humans do not believe it. Humans look at the little kind old ladies and Think that they are innocent, They are not Innocent..
When Jesus told his own town, about the Little old lady widows in Elijah's time what GOD did not do for the little old ladies, They wanted to Kill HIM They wanted to Kill Jesus ,because what he said about the widows and the leprosy,,....."They want to kill HIM."
LUKE 4 NSAB
24But He said, “Truly I say to you, No Prophet Is Welcome In His Hometown. 25But I say to you in truth, there were many widows in Israel in the days of Elijah, when the sky was shut up for three years and six months, when a [j]severe famine came overall the land; 26and yet Elijah was sent to none of them, but only to [k]Zarephath, in the land of Sidon, to a woman who was a widow. 27And there were many with leprosy in Israel in the time of Elisha the prophet; and none of them was [l]cleansed, but only Naaman the Syrian.”28And all the people in the synagogue were filled with rage as they heard these things; 29and they got up and drove Him out of the city, and brought Him to the [m]crest of the hill on whichtheir city had been built, so that they could throw Him down from the cliff. 30But He passedthrough their midst and went on His way.
This world and The translators and by The instructions of Churches and church leaders has wrap many of the True Brothers in Sisters in Christ around their fingers and made them feel worldly wise in Christ. they know it all. I saw the writing the other day, and a person said we do not need the Bible and it not important, and like to pasted out! And no one on "TalkJESUS" CHALLENGE HIM. they openly deny "Jesus Christ" and do not even care or even notice what they did, by their actions, of "omissions"
When did the people, get to be more Important Than the "WORD of GOD". People do not even know what "The Word of God" is anymore. they do not. Many have challenge me and deny "The Word of GOD" and do not even know it, Right here on Talk Jesus and no one says nothing about it.
If you deny Him on earth your will Deny him who he is In Heaven and in "The Millennium",,, Just because you say or call his name, meaning nothing.
Jesus said these words to the very people standing before Him and eating His Food and being healed By Power.
Matthew 15:8
8‘These people honor Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me. 9They worship Me in vain; they teach as doctrine the precepts of men.’
A true prophet of God is not wanted in a church, A true Prophet of God is not wanted in a city,I A True Prophet is Not wanted among any kind of People!
But The False ones are wanted every where to be found especially in The churches of all mankind.
Matthew 13:12
Whoever has will be given more, and he will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him.
Mark 4:25
For whoever has will be given more. But whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him."
Luke 8:18
Pay attention, therefore, to how you listen. Whoever has will be given more, but whoever does not have, even what he thinks he has will be taken away from him."
And they do not even know it.
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And we must always remember The Unbeliever can never see the things of God neither can they understand the words we speak about God, They can never receive what we speak. Never. No matter what we say about Him, They can never see and understand our words about "Christ Jesus" The Anointed One of Our Father. But they think they do and understand our words about Him. It is impossible, But we tell them any way. because it is a command. And the right one will hear it. Who Our Father has Drawn., By His Choice who He chose before all creation. will come to Christ, for His Purpose.
Our ways are not like GOD"S ways, and Our Understand is not like "GOD'S" Understandings.'
ManyThink that they are believers in Christ but they are not believers, but they think they are.
Our ways are not like GOD"S ways, and Our Understand is not like "GOD'S" Understandings.'
ManyThink that they are believers in Christ but they are not believers, but they think they are.
1Therefore, since through God’s mercy we have this ministry, we do not lose heart. 2Rather, we have renounced secret and shameful ways; we do not use deception, nor do we distort the word of God. On the contrary, by setting forth the truth plainly we commend ourselves to everyone’s conscience in the sight of God. 3And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 4The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. 5For what we preach is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake. 6For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,” a made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of God’s glory displayed in the face of Christ. 7But we have this treasure in jars of clay to show that this all-surpassing power is from God and not from us. 8We are hard pressed on every side, but not crushed; perplexed, but not in despair; 9persecuted, but not abandoned; struck down, but not destroyed. 10We always carry around in our body the death of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may also be revealed in our body. 11For we who are alive are always being given over to death for Jesus’ sake, so that his life may also be revealed in our mortal body. 12So then, death is at work in us, but life is at work in you. 13It is written: “I believed; therefore I have spoken.” b Since we have that same spirit of c faith, we also believe and therefore speak, 14because we know that the one who raised the Lord Jesus from the dead will also raise us with Jesus and present us with you to himself. 15All this is for your benefit, so that the grace that is reaching more and more people may cause thanksgiving to overflow to the glory of God. 16Therefore we do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. 17For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all. 18So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal. Footnotes: a 6 Gen. 1:3 b 13 Psalm 116:10 (see Septuagint) c 13 Or Spirit-given New International Version (NIV) Holy Bible, New International Version®, NIV® Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984, 2011 by Biblica, Inc.® Used by permission. All rights reserved worldwide. Bible Hub |
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Are you Muslim , because that is exactly how Muslims talk.
Thier God has no compassion, they can not accept a God who loves.
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Well I never really knew what one was, So I looked it up, My wife have a friend and fellow doctor who is one for years and a close friend and my youngest son "32" has one he went to college with, and my family knows me, and they know I am not one,
Muslims - Wikipedia
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a Muslim is a person who has dedicated his worship exclusively to God, for just as we say in Arabic that something is 'salima' to a person, meaning that it ...
India: 194,810,000
Indonesia: 231,070,000
Bill
You know more about "Muslims" than meBut for me: { I said "ACT" more "LIKE" a Calvinist..I did not say "I am a Calvinist" I was baptized and ordain as A "Orthodox Baptist" baptized around, 8 years old,, and License to preach as Baptist minister around the age 26, and Ordain as a Minister about the age of 30 years old.
I act more like a "Calvinist", For my form of "Theological Studies" is "Theology Proper" that be should well known by now on "TalkJEUS" and my statement is so documented on "TalkJESUS" since I been on "talkjesus" what I believe about the Bible and my form of Theological studies. I am a openBook, and Documented in My belief here, and everywhere else. I am on paper, about my believe and studies.
Here it is I am a open book. you do not have to guess what I am. or what I believe.
If you want to know what I believe and have studied, here it is, and always have been listed on "TalkJesus" {plus I agree with :
"The Chicago statement on biblical inerrancy"
You just have to have Patience's and read it. and understand it.
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Theology proper is the sub-discipline of systematic theology which deals specifically with the being, attributes and works of God. In Christian theology ...
I am not into religion. but Theology I am. [But I guess those definitions might have change too, Since I was taught. Things change and definitions, through out time. "Etymology" you cannot ignore. not in the USA.
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That's what happens when you hit the wrong button, it posts it without you saying a word. LOL
I know you're not a Muslim, I've known that for a long time. But the way that you've been responding to Brother Bear, I just had to throw that out there to you.
Sometimes it's not as easy for some to understand your post. I know that sometimes you post in a manner to make a person think of what you're trying to say. But unless the reader is expecting that, the reader probably wouldn't see it for what it is.
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2O Lord, how long shall I cry,
And You will not hear?
Even cry out to You, “Violence!”
And You will not save.
3Why do You show me iniquity,
And cause me to see trouble?
For plundering and violence are before me;
There is strife, and contention arises.
4Therefore the law is powerless,
And justice never goes forth.
For the wicked surround the righteous;
Therefore perverse judgment proceeds.
And You will not hear?
Even cry out to You, “Violence!”
And You will not save.
3Why do You show me iniquity,
And cause me to see trouble?
For plundering and violence are before me;
There is strife, and contention arises.
4Therefore the law is powerless,
And justice never goes forth.
For the wicked surround the righteous;
Therefore perverse judgment proceeds.
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For God to be a God of Truth and Justice, he has to allow us free will. For good or ill, all humans (and angels good and bad) choose to do the will of God. He does not force us, only guides, as he does not want robots. It has only been when mankinds hearts CHOOSE the darkness that He steps in. I.E. Sodom and Gomorrah, and the people of the time of Noah. In small ways we can see mankinds own desruction by choosing to defy God. Pharaoh's chariots crossing the sea after the Israelites leave the Egypt.
It is we, Mankind who choose hell or Heaven
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Oh give thanks to the Lord; call upon his name; make known his deeds among the peoples! Sing to him, sing praises to him; tell of all his wondrous works! Glory in his holy name; let the hearts of those who seek the Lord rejoice!
Oh sing to the Lord a new song, for he has done marvelous things! His right hand and his holy arm have worked salvation for him. The Lord has made known his salvation; he has revealed his righteousness in the sight of the nations.
He has remembered his steadfast love and faithfulness to the house of Israel. All the ends of the earth have seen the salvation of our God. Make a joyful noise to the Lord, all the earth; break forth into joyous song and sing praises!
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Men were scorched with fierce heat; and they blasphemed the name of God who has the power over these plagues, and they did not repent so as to give Him glory.
Twistie
