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GOD IS TURNING THE CHURCH

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ok. just to clarify,in the middle of a church service, a pastor dumped oil on himself and then began cry and sob (literally) and say "i want this (oil) off me"; at which point a group of people from the church went up to him, gathered around him, and started praying for the man. he then looked at you and called you 'rocky' after calling himself 'stony'. later on after this all happened, the man quit preaching.

sounds pretty strange. do you think the congregation had any idea what was going on? what exactly led up to this man pouring oil all over himself?
Upon entering the Sunday morning service, he walked to the alter sobbing in tears, picked up the oil and dumped the entire bottle all over him, asking for prayer, he wanted the conviction that was upon him off him; not the oil. The man was not bigger than God after all.
 
ok i want you to know i believe you are telling me the truth about what you experienced i am just interested in exactly what happened.
if you dont mind answering a few more questions for me, i would like to know a little more.

so when you walked into the church for the first time, you announced to everyone that you were there in the name of the Lord? could you explain that to me, if i have it wrong, how i have it wrong, if i have ti right, how i have it right.

the preacher came in one sunday and felt very convicted about his sins and poured oil all over himself and asked for prayer because he felt guilty.. do i have that right? if so, dont you think that the very act of looking to God to ask for forgiveness demonstrates that He was still able to be saved?

what exactly was your purpose going to that church? did you just listen to the sermons, or did you actively take some part in edifying the congregation? if so, how?

have you started going to a new church yet?
 
what exactly are you looking for brother?
I have posted in the forums all about this. Go check out those past post
 
no, I don't sit on the pew on a regular basis.
I go where God sends me. I sit at the throne of Grace, not on a pew.
I am not a denomination; I am a child of God
I am not above Him; I am in Him
I am not proud; but very humble
I am not self righteous; but I am the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus
I could go on and on............

When you seek Him; your life revolves around Him; He will revolve around you and become your life.
 
i am just wondering about what exactly happened because it seems like it was a very strange event. thats all.

try to find a good church and start going to it. check out small groups and get involved. you will be really blessed by it. Hebrews 10:25
 
try to find a good church and start going to it. check out small groups and get involved. you will be really blessed by it. Hebrews 10:25

Something i think you need to remember is that not everyone is called to just go and sit in a good church and join a small group. Some of us are called to study, and then take the gospel to wherever God leads. We are called to take the gospel to the streets, and the Holy Spirit is our teacher. We glean from whatever Godly teaching that God puts in our paths, then take it to the people.

Blessings to you!
 
i am just wondering about what exactly happened because it seems like it was a very strange event. thats all.

try to find a good church and start going to it. check out small groups and get involved. you will be really blessed by it. Hebrews 10:25
Hypocrisy happened @TaylorDonBarret
a hand full of self righteous, highed minded, pridful, jealous, envious, blinded, respector of men, double minded....... this is what caused the beatings of me.

God used this place so I could enter in through Him. Jesus is the only way and we are to walk in His steps; God sent me, I follow; God spoke to me, I spoke to them. The more I spoke, the more they hated me.
Beware of wolves in sheeps clothing. They put on the face but when spirits get stirred their fake smile changes.
 
Something i think you need to remember is that not everyone is called to just go and sit in a good church and join a small group. Some of us are called to study, and then take the gospel to wherever God leads. We are called to take the gospel to the streets, and the Holy Spirit is our teacher. We glean from whatever Godly teaching that God puts in our paths, then take it to the people.

Blessings to you!
I agree! But those that do so, and then attend church sporadically with the purpose of finding fault will most assuredly find fault, many of the same faults they find on the streets, but are not so critical of on said streets, it can be sort of like a baptist trash talking catholics because they dont agree with many things they do. Or like Irish catholics and protestants forever finding fault with the other. We are to take the beam out of our own eyes to see more clearly the splinter in the eyes of others.
 
@TaylorDonBarret
Take a bible, go into the woods and trust in God. Forsake all, for 40days; depending and trusting in God. Take nothing else with you. You will come out of those woods a changed man; full of the Holy Ghost and fire. Your tounge will be a two edged sword, even thou you speek one word, the Word of God, many will be offended by you.
Forsaking ALL......... pick up your cross and follow Him.
 
@BradHuber
That is exactly why God sent me in there. I did not go of my own accord. These folks were/ are full of sin; but it is everybody else that is trash, they loved to point fingers.
I remember telling them what God told me; when we point the finger in the other direction, not only is the gun in our hand, but the Father, Son and Holy Ghost is pointing at us. Try it, point the finger. The thumb is the hammer, the finger is the barrel and three fingers are pointing at you.
We can not justify ourselves. Only Jesus can do that. He knows whom He has chosen for the task.
The Sunday morn I walked in, I was given opportunity to speak God opens the door), and I said, "we as christians have failed miserably." Their preacher rocks back on his heels and says, " we as christians has failed miserably. We have a black man for President."
WOW! I couldnt hardly believe my own ears.
 
Are we suppose to go to a Church building, and then sit there our entire lives, or are we to go learn, and then go out and spread what we learned? There was a time limit put on attending a Church....

Eph 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

The ministry is not done inside of a building it is done outside where the people are. For the perfecting of the saints "for the for of the ministry"
 
Are we suppose to go to a Church building, and then sit there our entire lives, or are we to go learn, and then go out and spread what we learned? There was a time limit put on attending a Church....

Eph 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

The ministry is not done inside of a building it is done outside where the people are. For the perfecting of the saints "for the for of the ministry"

Yes, indeed, to minister means to serve and for such service have we been called. We need others to teach us, to encourage to help us grow so that we can then similarly minister to others. Give God the glory!
 
I agree! But those that do so, and then attend church sporadically with the purpose of finding fault will most assuredly find fault, many of the same faults they find on the streets, but are not so critical of on said streets, it can be sort of like a baptist trash talking catholics because they dont agree with many things they do. Or like Irish catholics and protestants forever finding fault with the other. We are to take the beam out of our own eyes to see more clearly the splinter in the eyes of others.

We will find what we are looking for. The self-righteous of Jesus' day 2000 years ago who prayed aloud in the street to receive the glory of men received that glory, but nothing else...
 
Even the dark spirits help us to grow in the Light. Amen.
If one holds true to God and His Word, God uses ALL things, including spirits, dark ones and light ones, to encourage growth in Him. Amen.
One will find both within her walls.
Do you KNOW HIM? Does He lead you in the path of righteousness?
Are you just as they are? or are you separate and peculiar? the odd ball within those walls is who I want to fellowship with. They are always looked upon as less...
 
"And let us not neglect our meeting together, as some people do, but encourage one another, especially now that the day of his return is drawing near."
-Hebrew 10:25

If it were up to me, I would stay by myself most all the time studying the word, studying books that study that word, reading bible commentaries and theologies, reading the bible, listening the worship music, and praying non-stop all day long. And, as a matter of fact, that has pretty much been the exten of my life for the past 18 months since i got saved. Full immersion, or close to it, non-stop.

But a couple months ago i decided to take the bible seriously on its command to not neglect meeting with other believers, which is basically, in this day and age, to go to church. and i have found the experience to be very edifying. and i do not see any point in my life where it would stop being edifying. learning is a life long process, for the believer an eternal process, that does not end just because we went to church a couple times.

i still go out and evangelize on the streets like i used to. i still spend most of my time alone, studying, 'praying always with all prayer', and doing all of my intimate time with God. really, we dont need to be out in the woods alone with a bible, or even alone at all in any way, in order to have a close intimate relationship with God. for me, and i think for any and everyone who truly wants Him to be, God is ever present in even the deepest recesses of our consciousness at every single second of the day. I have a 24/7 communion with Christ, there isnt a single thought that isnt taken captive to His word. of course, i am talking in general terms, i am not perfect in this, but for the most part what i say is true about my daily walk with God.

one thing i might suggest to you, rag4acrown, is that if you truly want to to do the work of God, if you want people to welcome you and accept you and listen to the words that God has given you to say to them, it might be best to just say 'hello, my name is 'rag4acrrown', how are you doing? you know, i have a word i feel is from God and i would very much like to share it with you" and then go about your delivery in a meek way, poor in spirit, making sure to speak as a dying man to dying men. althought, of course, you being a woman, you ought to be very sensitive to the fact that you are a woman, and be very careful about your attitude towards others, especially grown men, who you should not attempt to teach, but only speak to them in terms of sharing your thoughts and feelings. because i will tell you one thing that i have learned, its that it doesnt matter how anointed your message is, if it is not delivered right, people will only spit in your face. the prophets would rebuke people and speak boldly about their status as a messenger of God (elevating themselves above their listeners), and indeed we are called to do so when necessary, but only after first trying and trying and trying to communicate the word of God to them with gentleness, meekness, sensitivity, and lacking presumptions about our status or theirs. i may be way wrong about this, but i have a feeling that maybe you could have had better experiences if you would have had all these things in mind.
 
I agree! But those that do so, and then attend church sporadically with the purpose of finding fault will most assuredly find fault, many of the same faults they find on the streets, but are not so critical of on said streets, it can be sort of like a baptist trash talking catholics because they dont agree with many things they do. Or like Irish catholics and protestants forever finding fault with the other. We are to take the beam out of our own eyes to see more clearly the splinter in the eyes of others.

I can agree with you if it was someone who went in of their own accord, or purpose. But When God sends someone full of the Holy Spirit into a place to speak His message, we are not to question why or what....as a wonderful pastor has said, we obey God and leave the results up to Him. Not always when God, tells someone to do something, do others approve, or support it....but honestly that does not matter, our job is just to say..Sir, Yes Sir!

No denomination should be trash talking another. The body of Christ should not be doing anything, but loving one another. And the it is time that the Irish Catholics and Prodestants come together under the treaty that was made, acknowledging and mending the reasons why Martin Luther was kicked out of the Catholic Church. I pray for that all of the time. Time for the body of Christ to become unified.
Blessings to you!
 
@TaylorDonBarret
"And let us not neglect our meeting together, as some people do, but encourage one another, especially now that the day of his return is drawing near."
-Hebrew 10:25........this site is a very good example of this verse does not always have to be in a church!

Something i think you have to remember that rag4acrown is called to minister in the way that God made her, and to whom and how He tells her and calles her. This apparently not the way that you have been called. Your ministry areas and styles are different. So there should be no judgement. And in listening to what she has said in a lot of her posts, and i know is true in my own life as well, the message is to be spoken, and the rest is up to God. We are just to obey.

May the Lord richly bless all that He has called you to do.
 
i am not judging. i am sharing the word of God, which says do not neglect meeting together.
this message forum is good. but it is not the same thing as meeting in person and speaking face to face with other human beings.
if w want to be effective at ministering to the lost and sharing God's word, we need to be around people constantly so we know how to communicate to them.
also, the fellowship allows for iron to sharpen iron, and love to build between believers.
fellowship is very important for so many reasons.
 
Two plus years ago, God sent me to a certain church. He told me, "I am sending you into the wolves den. They will not receive you, because they have not received Him who sent you." I said, "oh, Lord, what are You doing?" He said, " My people are in trouble and they need My help."

Upon arriving, I looked at the double doors and there was a giant bridle bit across the doors. I climbed the steps and reins appearer on the bit. I turned the knob and cros...sed the threshold and I saw God's hand upon the church and the church was turning. Praise God.

It is time for preachers to get right with God or step down. He is sending His people in to you. If you aren't right with Him, He will remove you and give the pulpit to another. Amen. He speaks of this in a parable of going away to a far away country and giving His house into husbandmens... maybe you may want to go check that out and let the Holy Ghost lead you in the Way, the Truth and the Life. Amen.

God is turning the church. Many have already changed hands, they have been given new names, and the Word of truth is being spoken, and the resurrection. Amen. God is fed up with the doctrines of men, preaching lies. REPENT!!! bring forth gifts worthy of repentence, CRYING OUT, Abba Father. Amen. I am sent forth to warn you vipers of the wrath to come. Amen.

All praise, glory and honor be unto God. Amen
Amen! Thank you for sharing that. I know that took courage.
 
There is no doubt that the "organised" Church is being shaken, so that the things that can not be shaken shall remain. If we come out from among them and be separate, then God will receive us and then he will be our God, and we shall be is sons and daughters. There has to be division before there can be unity with the true Church. This is the main reason the Lord called me out of the main stay Church many years ago. How can one take a log out of a brothers eye, unless he first have the logs taken out his own eyes first. The Church must first come out of the world, and become separate from what man has made the Church to be. God always has a for runner in which to see these t things. If we have become apart of them our self's, we also will not see either. We are living in exciting times, as the time is shorter than we think.

Then I heard another voice from heaven saying,

“Come out of her, my people,
lest you take part in her sins,
lest you share in her plagues;
for her sins are heaped high as heaven,
and God has remembered her iniquities.” ~ Rev. 18:4-5
 
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