God's Frustration With Christians

[Bill]

Maybe this seems like an odd topic to have here in this website. But I understand God's frustration well, because people write things in the threads without ever using the gifts of the Holy Spirit.

How can anyone claim anything of having any great knowledge without using the gifts of the Holy Spirit or without being inspired by the Holy Spirit. You cannot!

The Lord has sent me to come here and speak with you, but your hearts are closed. Your minds are closed to the will of God. So few even here, understand the will of God.

Does anyone even know that if your heart is not infertile when you receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit, that you will not receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit.

When Jesus tells us the parable of the seeds falling on Rocky ground or fertile ground, it's talking about faith. But that faith is also talking about receiving the gifts of the Holy Spirit. If you don't believe in God, if you don't receive God into your heart. If you don't forgive others and are not forgiven how in the world can you receive the Holy Spirit. Because your heart is cold your heart is not fertile to receive the Holy Spirit.

No I've told people here for a long time, that there are two baptisms. There is the baptism of water, and there's the baptism of the Holy Spirit. And they are two completely different baptisms. I know there's preachers out there that try to tell you that the water baptism is the same thing as a baptism of the Holy Spirit. But it's wrong.

Now I recognize the fact that these teachings have gone on for 50 years or more. And I can be forgiving of that. But if you take this into the future with the coming of the Beast and the coming of the Antichrist and the coming of the mark of the beast. And preachers will sit there and say it's okay to take the mark of the beast. Then you and I will be at odds, and those preachers will lose.

Do not be deceived by preachers who will sit there and tell you because you've been saved it's okay to take the mark of the beast. Because I tell you anyone who takes the mark of the beast will be destined for help. And any preacher whether he has the mark of the beast or not that insights his parishioners to take the mark of the beast, he too will be going to hell.

If anyone wants to really understand the sin against the Holy Spirit. Understand it is when you cause someone else to fall from God's grace.

 

[twcstp]

What better way to cause another to fall from grace than to tell them they're going to hell? If a preacher preach, they absolutely must know what is in the book they use to draw strategies for preaching. God's territory is no game and it seems there are many people today that are not aware of its power: it will murder a soul if the person preaching thinks the 'power and authority over spirits' they 'gave themselves' is doing honor to God's name.

No.

I've said this before and i'll say it again: NO person that loves life and their family and their friends and the stranger will ever go to hell, ever. I promise you, with my life, that I am telling you the truth.

There are many people that have God's Spirir in them and they don't even know Jesus is God.

Did Jesus throw rocks at the woman the Pharisees were going to kill? Did he pierce her with His sword? His word IS His sword, and the scriptures are His Word and His testimony.

Any man that preach must also guide and mentor, lest the soul stumble over a rock and fall on a sword. I know you know what I am telling you is true: mercy, and not sacrifice.

 

[Bill]

What better way to cause another to fall from grace than to tell them they're going to hell? If a preacher preach, they absolutely must know what is in the book they use to draw strategies for preaching. God's territory is no game and it seems there are many people today that are not aware of its power: it will murder a soul if the person preaching thinks the 'power and authority over spirits' they 'gave themselves' is doing honor to God's name.

No.

I've said this before and i'll say it again: NO person that loves life and their family and their friends and the stranger will ever go to hell, ever. I promise you, with my life, that I am telling you the truth.

There are many people that have God's Spirir in them and they don't even know Jesus is God.

Did Jesus throw rocks at the woman the Pharisees were going to kill? Did he pierce her with His sword? His word IS His sword, and the scriptures are His Word and His testimony.

Any man that preach must also guide and mentor, lest the soul stumble over a rock and fall on a sword. I know you know what I am telling you is true: mercy, and not sacrifice.

May the Lord smile may his guidance fill us with his love

I read your words and heard what you said.. you are so close to understanding it is a beautiful thing, but there is some error, but it is only an understanding of the timing of a person's life when it is their end.

Even though Judas had betrayed Jesus, if he had sought the Forgiveness of God, God would have forgiven him. But he chose to take his life and so ended the possibility to be forgiven.

In the book of Galatians, Paul talks about people who were called to Freedom, and that is freedom from sin. And he talks about how God understands about falling back into sin as they continue to grow forward. But he talks about also those who not only fall back into sin but then continue to do so.. you see if a person dies in their sins, and doesn't repent ever before dying then that sin stays in them. And the wages of sin is death.

Jesus died for our sins, but we still have to accept Jesus to receive the gift. And just like Judas if we choose to sin after receiving the gift, that we have to repent, we have to go to the Lord and say Lord please forgive me I have sinned.

Jesus death on the cross, washed away the sins of the world. And when you received Jesus as your Lord all the sins from before, and up to that point are gone. And we received the opportunity to continue seeking God's forgiveness till the ends of Our Lives of all other sins that we commit during our lives.

Scripture does not state that once Jesus died on the cross, that automatically you do not have to ask God for forgiveness of future sins. Otherwise if that were true everybody could sin their ass off, without worry of ever being punished ever again.

It would be just like the chaos that is going on in California where you can steal up to $900 worth of merchandise and not worry about getting penalized by the government.

 

[Bill]

What better way to cause another to fall from grace than to tell them they're going to hell? If a preacher preach, they absolutely must know what is in the book they use to draw strategies for preaching. God's territory is no game and it seems there are many people today that are not aware of its power: it will murder a soul if the person preaching thinks the 'power and authority over spirits' they 'gave themselves' is doing honor to God's name.

No.

I've said this before and i'll say it again: NO person that loves life and their family and their friends and the stranger will ever go to hell, ever. I promise you, with my life, that I am telling you the truth.

There are many people that have God's Spirir in them and they don't even know Jesus is God.

Did Jesus throw rocks at the woman the Pharisees were going to kill? Did he pierce her with His sword? His word IS His sword, and the scriptures are His Word and His testimony.

Any man that preach must also guide and mentor, lest the soul stumble over a rock and fall on a sword. I know you know what I am telling you is true: mercy, and not sacrifice.

I wanted to add, you are correct saying
"There are many people that have God's Spirir in them and they don't even know Jesus is God."
That is absolutely correct

 

[watertolive]

If anyone wants to really understand the sin against the Holy Spirit. Understand it is when you cause someone else to fall from God's grace.

Greetings in the Lord
The sin against the Holy Spirit is calling someone, who has actually been baptized in the Holy Spirit, a devil.
It is not causing anyone to fall from God's grace.

All praise glory and honor be unto God. Amen

 

[lentz]

Saying the Holy Spirit is an evil spirit is blasphemy.

 

[Br. Bear]

Greetings,

as in casting out by Beelzebub?


Bless you all ....><>

 

[lentz]

Greetings,

as in casting out by Beelzebub?


Bless you all ....><>

When Jesus told the people that was the unforgivable sin, there in parentheses it said, because they said he had an unclean spirit.

I believe that clearly states the meaning.

 

[Bill]

Greetings in the Lord
The sin against the Holy Spirit is calling someone, who has actually been baptized in the Holy Spirit, a devil.
It is not causing anyone to fall from God's grace.

All praise glory and honor be unto God. Amen

This is the Sin against the Holy Spirit.

Matthew 18, 6 through 7.

But anyone who is an obstacle to bring down one of these little ones who have faith in me, would be better drowned in the depths of the sea with a great millstone around his neck. Alas for the world that there should be such obstacles. Obstacles indeed there must be, but it'll last for the man who provides them.

 

[lentz]

It would be impossible for a child of God to commit the unpardonable sin.

Mark 3:29,30

 

[watertolive]

This is the Sin against the Holy Spirit.

Matthew 18, 6 through 7.

But anyone who is an obstacle to bring down one of these little ones who have faith in me, would be better drowned in the depths of the sea with a great millstone around his neck. Alas for the world that there should be such obstacles. Obstacles indeed there must be, but it'll last for the man who provides them.

Greetings
Mark 3:29,30

 

[Bill]

It would be impossible for a child of God to commit the unpardonable sin.

Mark 3:29,30

It depends how you want to look at it but Lucifer was the first among the first created children of God, and he s i n n e d

 

[Bill]

It would be impossible for a child of God to commit the unpardonable sin.

Mark 3:29,30

The problem with your comment is that we all have free will. And you have the freedom to choose daily whether you're going to continue being a child of God or choose to be something very sinful

 

[Bill]

It would be impossible for a child of God to commit the unpardonable sin.

Mark 3:29,30

the scripture is pretty clear about a person who has faith, and then is dissuaded to lose their faith

 

[lentz]

The problem with your comment is that we all have free will. And you have the freedom to choose daily whether you're going to continue being a child of God or choose to be something very sinful

That was my point. If he chooses to go against God and commit blasphemy,he is no longer a child.
Therefore a child of God cannot commit blasphemy of the Holy Ghost

 

[Bill]

It would be impossible for a child of God to commit the unpardonable sin.

Mark 3:29,30

You're going to see this very thing happen, when people realize that the Rapture did not happen. In all the churches that preach the Rapture and are really hardcore on the rapture they will lose well over 80% of their people these people will go to the One World Church. It will be because of the delusion of the Rapture teaching.

The so-called Rapture teaching or the greatest Escapist I call it will never happen. It will only happen when Jesus returns. People in the churches that teach the Rapture will be crying and will be dropping like flies from those churches. Because now Satan's lie will have come to fruition.

 

[lentz]

And going contrary to most, I like the term Holy Ghost. I see no irreverence

 

[Bill]

That was my point. If he chooses to go against God and commit blasphemy,he is no longer a child.
Therefore a child of God cannot commit blasphemy of the Holy Ghost

I think that you are a little bit confused because in your mind it's like all or none.

Trust me I understand how the thinking goes but it's incorrect. Because children of God do dumb things all the time. It's just that when we become like the angels in our knowledge and understanding. After the great day of the Lord The Sixth Seal. Your face will be so far above what it is now because now you're going to have knowledge the truth of God because God has spoken to your heart and you recognize God. There will be no excuse, none, for taking the mark of the beast

 

[lentz]

You're going to see this very thing happen, when people realize that the Rapture did not happen. In all the churches that preach the Rapture and are really hardcore on the rapture they will lose well over 80% of their people these people will go to the One World Church. It will be because of the delusion of the Rapture teaching.

The so-called Rapture teaching or the greatest Escapist I call it will never happen. It will only happen when Jesus returns. People in the churches that teach the Rapture will be crying and will be dropping like flies from those churches. Because now Satan's lie will have come to fruition.

That’s your opinion

 

[Bill]

And going contrary to most, I like the term Holy Ghost. I see no irreverence

There is no difference, between calling the Holy Spirit the Holy Ghost. Because that's how we understand the Holy Spirit.

You know when people make a big to do over the name of God. You know the ones that called God Yeshua, or Yahweh. I could tell you God pretty much rolls his eyes at how retarded people can get in their arguments.

Or another argument is the Sabbath day versus Sunday. I already know God rolls his eyes at that one too. Because it's so retarded it's so stupid arguing over which day to go to mass on. If your church is hard up on Saturday then go to church on Saturday. Or if your church is hard up on Sunday then go to church on Sunday. But don't sit there and and ***** about the guys that are going to church on the other day that's just so stupid