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God's Nuclear War ?

Well let me throw a monkey into the wrench. With a little common sense.

To begin with to dwell on these things and to allow fear to prevail is silly. We should all just accept we do not know. And that to simply believe in and to trust God is the only requirement to avoid most of this. Will some of us have to die in those days, could be, good people and followers of God die every day due to some evil. But they do have Gods love and his promise that all is well in the end. That is the thing to hold to.

Now about that monkey......is not God the ultimate scientist? The creator and the one who holds the laws of life and creation? Does he need the ways of man to accomplish things? No not really, but he does at times use them but in the manner of destruction, can any man create something such as the great flood? Not likely.

Do you know much about Nuclear War?? I do, I was trained in the military some in this area, I was trained to load the weapons, to arm them and to disarm them. And to use them.

Nuclear war and the results of it on the world in a great scale would destroy the earth for many centuries, the results of the atomic fall out and radiation would cease life as we know it for a great long time. All things are poison, crops, plants, the very soil becomes poison. No life can survive period in a zone where nuclear blasts have been let loose. Not just from the blast and destruction , but from the results of the extreme radiation. So no life would survive.
Oh sure you could live in and underground bunker for a time, till your life support is gone, but you could not venture out, as certain death is the result. Not from the blast but from the poison of the radiation.

Will God use mans power and the poison he creates to destroy the world or will he use his own instant and clean way to effect his will and not poison the earth? I think his power is much more than a nuclear bomb and his way would not poison the earth.

Will man in the future conduct a nuclear war......could be. We are stupid enough to do so. It is a distinct possible situation. The world is in turmoil and they do seem intent upon a great war.

I would say to pray for this to never occur. To ask God to temper the world governments to not allow such a thing. That is what I intend to do.

I would much rather have God judge me and destroy me than man. Gods way is all powerful and awesome. Mans so called knowledge is but nonsense. It holds no comparison to the power of God.

So I pray that nuclear war never comes. That in its place when the day does have to be that God power is the way to destruction as this will be quick, sure and without the result of the earth becoming totally poison.

God has a way to destroy, and it does not require nuclear weapons. Now man may commit this ignorant act, we are quite capable of such a thing.

Kit
 
American nuclear war

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When God decides to judge Israel in the tribulation after the temple is built, He will put a hook in the jaw of Russia from the north and pull them to Israel. At that time God will call a great nation from the other side of the earth to come to fight Russia. America is the only great Nation on the other side of the earth from Israel.

Jeremiah 6:16–22 KJV

17 Also I set watchmen over you, saying, Hearken to the sound of the
trumpet. But they said, We will not hearken.
18 Therefore hear, ye nations, and know, O congregation, what is among them.
19 Hear, O earth: behold, I will bring evil upon this people, even the fruit of their thoughts, because they have not hearkened unto my words, nor to my law, but rejected it.
20 To what purpose cometh there to me incense from Sheba, and the sweet cane from a far country? your burnt offerings are not acceptable, nor your sacrifices sweet unto me.
21 Therefore thus saith the Lord, Behold, I will lay stumblingblocks before this people, and the fathers and the sons together shall fall upon them; the neighbour and his friend shall perish.
22 Thus saith the Lord, Behold, a people cometh from the north country, and a great nation shall be raised from the sides of the earth.

When Israel is attacked by nuclear weapons and blown away God Will call an ensign or country from the end of the earth to come to Israel and take a prey safely back to the other end of the earth. Revelation 12:14 says Israel will be carried away by a great eagle. I believe God will call America to rescue the women and children of Israel in the sixth seal judgment when the heavens are darkened over Israel as it indicates in verse 30.

Isaiah 5:16–30 KJV

24 Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the Lord of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.
25 Therefore is the anger of the Lord kindled against his people, and he hath stretched forth his hand against them, and hath smitten them: and the hills did tremble, and their carcases were torn in the midst of the streets. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.
26 And he will lift up an ensign to the nations from far, and will hiss unto them from the end of the earth: and, behold, they shall come with speed swiftly:
27 None shall be weary nor stumble among them; none shall slumber nor sleep; neither shall the girdle of their loins be loosed, nor the latchet of their shoes be broken:
28 Whose arrows are sharp, and all their bows bent, their horses’ hoofs shall be counted like flint, and their wheels like a whirlwind:
29 Their roaring shall be like a lion, they shall roar like young lions: yea, they shall roar, and lay hold of the prey, and shall carry it away safe, and none shall deliver it.
30 And in that day they shall roar against them like the roaring of the sea: and if one look unto the land, behold darkness and sorrow, and the light is darkened in the heavens thereof.


When the nuclear war burns the earth, Isaiah 24:14-16a says some one will praise God in the fires in the uttermost part of the earth in the isle in the sea. Who would praise God when they see a nuclear war?

Isaiah 24:6,14–16 KJV

6 Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.
14 They shall lift up their voice, they shall sing for the majesty of the Lord, they shall cry aloud from the sea.
15 Wherefore glorify ye the Lord in the fires, even the name of the Lord God of Israel in the isles of the sea.
16 From the uttermost part of the earth have we heard songs, even glory to the righteous. But I said, My leanness, my leanness, woe unto me! the treacherous dealers have dealt treacherously; yea, the treacherous dealers have dealt very treacherously.



Ezekiel 39:6–8 KJV

6 And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the Lord.
7 So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the Lord, the Holy One in Israel.
8 Behold, it is come, and it is done, saith the Lord God; this is the day whereof I have spoken.

When God sends the nuclear fire on Russia and America, Israel will turn back to God. Only the Jews carried to America as prey safely will praise God when they see the fires in America on the other side of the earth from Israel.

During the day of the Lord, God will judge Israel by the spirit of judgment and the spirit of fire see Isaiah 4:4.When you study the day of the Lord, look for the thread of fire. It will be nuclear war , which blows away people as chaff instantly. They are vaporized while they stand on their feet.

Zechariah 14:12–15 KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
13 And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the Lord shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour.
14 And Judah also shall fight at Jerusalem; and the wealth of all the heathen round about shall be gathered together, gold, and silver, and apparel, in great abundance.
15 And so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ***, and of all the beasts that shall be in these tents, as this plague.

Did you notice that the plague (or judgment) that God sends to Israel’s enemies is on both men and animals? Those close to the impact area of the atomic bombs will be vaporized while they stand on their feet. I point out these effects so you understand that this is an instantaneous plague.
 
The Lords prophecies are His prophecies and promises, not proof.

You misunderstand me. When I sid the LORD's prophecies are proof, I point to the prophecies which have already come to pass. Check the thread Chad made on them. The Book of Daniel, for instance, prophecies a number of empires which have come and gone. This text, which was written centuries before these empires came to pass, looks like a history book written after the empires came and went.

Since God has already proven His prophecies are proof, we can trust the accuracy of ones that are still to pass.
 
American antichrist

You mean my comment that I believe God will judge America first?
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2 Thessalonians 2:6–12 KJV
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Paul explains that someone is restraining the Antichrist. When that someone is removed from the scene, the Antichrist will come to power. The Christians who have the Holy Spirit in them are the salt of the earth and the light of the world (Matthew 5:13–16). This means that we, with the influence of the Holy Spirit in us, are presently preventing worldwide corruption the same way that the proper amount of salt preserves country ham. When God calls the Christians up in the air to go to heaven (during the rapture), He will also remove the restraining influence of the Holy Spirit. At that time, the Antichrist will be revealed
and come to power after the Christians have gone to heaven. Paul also explains that God will cause everyone who has heard and rejected the truth of the gospel to believe the lie of the Antichrist. Do
you understand what that means? It means there will be no second chance to be saved (become a
spiritually born-again Christian) during the tribulation period for those who rejected Christ before the tribulation period started.
Next, contemplate this question.
Now that we know it is the end of the last days because the Jews have returned to Israel, what country has heard the gospel of Christ more than any other?
America is the most evangelized country in the world. Therefore, after the calling up to heaven of the Christians, America will be the most deceived nation in the world because God will cause everyone who heard and rejected the truth of the gospel of Jesus to believe the lie of the Antichrist. That is why America will follow the Antichrist and will become the last-days’ Babylon. It is sad to say that all of the other Western powers who are in NATO, that are so-called Christian nations will also follow the Antichrist, in addition to South America, Canada, and Australia. One day, there will be Antichrist followers wherever there are now Christian missionaries.
 
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2 Thessalonians 2:6–12 KJV
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Paul explains that someone is restraining the Antichrist. When that someone is removed from the scene, the Antichrist will come to power. The Christians who have the Holy Spirit in them are the salt of the earth and the light of the world (Matthew 5:13–16). This means that we, with the influence of the Holy Spirit in us, are presently preventing worldwide corruption the same way that the proper amount of salt preserves country ham. When God calls the Christians up in the air to go to heaven (during the rapture), He will also remove the restraining influence of the Holy Spirit. At that time, the Antichrist will be revealed
and come to power after the Christians have gone to heaven. Paul also explains that God will cause everyone who has heard and rejected the truth of the gospel to believe the lie of the Antichrist. Do
you understand what that means? It means there will be no second chance to be saved (become a
spiritually born-again Christian) during the tribulation period for those who rejected Christ before the tribulation period started.
Next, contemplate this question.
Now that we know it is the end of the last days because the Jews have returned to Israel, what country has heard the gospel of Christ more than any other?
America is the most evangelized country in the world. Therefore, after the calling up to heaven of the Christians, America will be the most deceived nation in the world because God will cause everyone who heard and rejected the truth of the gospel of Jesus to believe the lie of the Antichrist. That is why America will follow the Antichrist and will become the last-days’ Babylon. It is sad to say that all of the other Western powers who are in NATO, that are so-called Christian nations will also follow the Antichrist, in addition to South America, Canada, and Australia. One day, there will be Antichrist followers wherever there are now Christian missionaries.

I am following you Eric. I yet still have other beliefs. I do not accept a pretrib rapture of the church. The scriptures don't support it. When looking back at the 7 churches which are named in chapter 2&3, I see the various churches that are here wit us today. Only one of them was promised to escape the tribulation. Another would have tribulation 10 days. The rest there was given opportunity to correct their error. I came out of the church of Laodicea where they thought that they were clothed in the righteousness of Christ but were naked. I was taught that God sees me as he see Jesus despite all of my sin. I woke up to righteousness and fled that church, opening the door and Jesus has come in to sup with me.

He is going to do something with the church of Philadelphia. I don't believe in the rapture aspect for them as the catching up to Christ seems to happen at his return which is the first resurrection of the dead. I am more than likely guessing that the church of Philadelphia will just die when the Holy Spirit is removed. Their spirits will be so intertwined with Gods spirit that theirs will be removed upon his removal. They will cease to breathe having given up the ghost.

As for others who are in the tribulation, those who have received the lie that Jesus is some kind of get out of Hell free card and have spread that lie to other nations, by the end of the tribulation when Jesus returns, his angels will go forth and remove all that offend that are within his kingdom. These are believers who don't make the grade. Then those who have come to believe and have sanctified themselves through the word of God will be caught up to him in the Air. That leaves unbelievers for the next events that follow his return.

I am still working on understanding this and this is not dogma for me. It is my current perception of a future reality that could have error in it.

Gary
 
understanding

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I am following you Eric. I yet still have other beliefs. I do not accept a pretrib rapture of the church. The scriptures don't support it. When looking back at the 7 churches which are named in chapter 2&3, I see the various churches that are here wit us today. Only one of them was promised to escape the tribulation. Another would have tribulation 10 days. The rest there was given opportunity to correct their error. I came out of the church of Laodicea where they thought that they were clothed in the righteousness of Christ but were naked. I was taught that God sees me as he see Jesus despite all of my sin. I woke up to righteousness and fled that church, opening the door and Jesus has come in to sup with me.

He is going to do something with the church of Philadelphia. I don't believe in the rapture aspect for them as the catching up to Christ seems to happen at his return which is the first resurrection of the dead. I am more than likely guessing that the church of Philadelphia will just die when the Holy Spirit is removed. Their spirits will be so intertwined with Gods spirit that theirs will be removed upon his removal. They will cease to breathe having given up the ghost.

As for others who are in the tribulation, those who have received the lie that Jesus is some kind of get out of Hell free card and have spread that lie to other nations, by the end of the tribulation when Jesus returns, his angels will go forth and remove all that offend that are within his kingdom. These are believers who don't make the grade. Then those who have come to believe and have sanctified themselves through the word of God will be caught up to him in the Air. That leaves unbelievers for the next events that follow his return.

I am still working on understanding this and this is not dogma for me. It is my current perception of a future reality that could have error in it.

Gary

Gary I posted a new post for you this morning under Bible study. It is called Eternal Security Christians don't have the right to sin with out punishment. God spanks those he loves as a father would. If the sinning Christian dose not repent God will make some ill and some die.
 
I did read it, yes.

No a nuclear war could not fulfill all of the prophecies. The prophecies are prophecies given by God and God alone. They are His and His alone to fulfill, not humanities. Who fulfilled the prophecy of Jesus Christ? Who fulfilled every prophecy given by God in the entire bible even before revelation? A nuclear war would be at the hands and choices of humanity. Not once did God literally force a human being to do his will or bidding through forceful manipulation.



The Lords prophecies are His prophecies and promises, not proof. Proof is hardcore/ironclad information that provides enough data for something to be fact. Proof has nothing to do with prophecies, because these prophecies in revelation have yet to be fulfilled. I actually never once accused anything biblical to be paranoia. It is the theories that humans get after they read something and contract into a thought or idea that is paranoia. This includes subjects like mass nuclear war, 2012, global warming, solar flares, etc etc. All of these things are fears from humanity put into vivid images out of paranoia of them actually happening. When in reality, the odds of them actually happening are very small, if not entirely impossible.

I don't understand the motive in focusing on end times to be honest. It is a pointless theory crafting area, and a pointless area to be paranoid or worried about. When or if the world ends, it will be on a much larger scale then we will ever be able to understand. It doesn't matter if it will be biblical or natural. If or when it is going to happen there will be nothing in anyone's power (united or separated) on earth to prevent. I also don't understand why a lot of Christians are excited about the prophecies in revelation either. What is joyous about billions of people dying and then having their very souls either completely destroyed or cast into ever-lasting torment? I am sure that God isn't happy about His creations that he has to destroy, even though they are His enemies, the bible even says this. Not applying the second part to the actual thread or anyone in it, but explaining why I feel strongly about end times theories.

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10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

When you see the day of the Lord coming hasten unto it (verse 12)
Why?
Because you have the promise of the New Heavens and the New Earth where in dwelleth righteousness (verse 13)
So
Work diligently for the Lord! (verse14)
 
The first post.

Eric E Stahl, your first OP (Original post) with those scriptures were very interesting. I never saw that in there before. I am not sure all the scriptures you posted pointed to nukes, but a few seemed to be very clear evidence of massive Nuclear hits.

Thank you for taking the time to share that Word. I always felt nukes where to be released, but never really saw it clearly in scripture until your post.

You are the blessed.

Jesus Is Lord.
 
Eric E Stahl, your first OP (Original post) with those scriptures were very interesting. I never saw that in there before. I am not sure all the scriptures you posted pointed to nukes, but a few seemed to be very clear evidence of massive Nuclear hits.

Thank you for taking the time to share that Word. I always felt nukes where to be released, but never really saw it clearly in scripture until your post.

You are the blessed.

Jesus Is Lord.

Thank you Brother Mike. Many can not let themselves believe God would cause men to destroy each other with nuclear weapons. There are many strange things that are becoming understandable now that we are at the end of time.

You may want to print the first post so you can study it later.
 
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