Hello

[BubbleFlower]

Hello. My name is Kacey. I am originally from Québec. We moved to the US when I was so young. This site came on my search when I was looking for Christian forums and family matters. I am not a believer. I have no religion, but I am in a relationship with a Christian, and I am madly in love with him. We ran into few problems, but I hope we can overcome our differences. I consider myself a very spiritual person.

I am a university student. I study psychology. I love travelling so much, movies, anime, drawing, and art. I hope I can learn something about God.

Thank you,

 

[Brother-Paul]

Welcome to the forum @BubbleFlower

We do hope you enjoy the discussions and studies on here, we are a friendly group, with members all across the world.

You say you are not a believer, you have no religion.

Take the latter first, religion is no good to anyone, allow me please to share the difference,

Religion is man's attempt to coming to God, that covers most faiths


Then look at Christianity

Christianity, true Christianity is not a religion, though some denominations try to make it one and the media not knowing the difference groups it as one.

Christianity is God's attempt to reach man. Notice the big difference.

With religions man attempts to come to God, religions include, rules, regulations and rituals, but they all have the same common error, rewards for doing good to get to Heaven, to get to God!

Christianity is the other way round, God sent His one and only Son to die for our sins, so that through Him we can be saved and go to Heaven, we cannot get to heaven by doing good to get rewards, we cannot earn our way into Heaven. Jesus paid the price we should pay, God came to man, so that we can come to God, we cannot get to heaven any other way except by coming to the Cross, coming to the feet of Jesus, repenting from the heart and being born again, becoming a New Creation.

Read John's Gospel, in particular John chapter 3, verses 1 to 21.

If you have any questions or something niggling you and you want answers, please ask, there are many Bible believing, saved believers on here, we are happy to help you, we are happy to pray for you and your boyfriend.

Jesus loves you @BubbleFlower so do we.

In His Love

 

[BubbleFlower]

Welcome to the forum @BubbleFlower

We do hope you enjoy the discussions and studies on here, we are a friendly group, with members all across the world.

You say you are not a believer, you have no religion.

Take the latter first, religion is no good to anyone, allow me please to share the difference,

Religion is man's attempt to coming to God, that covers most faiths


Then look at Christianity

Christianity, true Christianity is not a religion, though some denominations try to make it one and the media not knowing the difference groups it as one.

Christianity is God's attempt to reach man. Notice the big difference.

With religions man attempts to come to God, religions include, rules, regulations and rituals, but they all have the same common error, rewards for doing good to get to Heaven, to get to God!

Christianity is the other way round, God sent His one and only Son to die for our sins, so that through Him we can be saved and go to Heaven, we cannot get to heaven by doing good to get rewards, we cannot earn our way into Heaven. Jesus paid the price we should pay, God came to man, so that we can come to God, we cannot get to heaven any other way except by coming to the Cross, coming to the feet of Jesus, repenting from the heart and being born again, becoming a New Creation.

Read John's Gospel, in particular John chapter 3, verses 1 to 21.

If you have any questions or something niggling you and you want answers, please ask, there are many Bible believing, saved believers on here, we are happy to help you, we are happy to pray for you and your boyfriend.

Jesus loves you @BubbleFlower so do we.

In His Love

I am surprised to hear a Christian say religion is no good for anyone. Are you sure of this?!

Christianity is indeed a religion. It surely has a lot of rules, rituals, and doctrines. Baptism is one I know a lot about. That is a rule/ritual performed to make you part of the religion/faith.

The word religion comes from the latin word religare, which means to bind back. Christianly does bind you back. You cannot do certain things. Also, you have to think in the way Jesus taught you, but not outside of those teachings. That is religare binding you back. Therefore, it is a religion.

It is true christianly has astonishing ideas about god, but Many gods in ancient religions reached man. Some gods even believed to give humans many things, such as wisdom, weapons, gifts and powers and so on… Prometheus believed to give humans the gift of fire and freedom. There are identical stories in all religions. An example would be the flood myth.

Thank you.

 

[Br. Bear]

Jesus loves you @BubbleFlower so do we.

In His Love

yes, even if it is outside ones present ability to comprehend [speaking as an ex non-believer]

and it is a love outside of our comprehension but is also recognised by the deep call from every man's soul, even if he/she doesn't [yet] realise it to be so.


Bless you @BubbleFlower

 

[Brother-Paul]

I am surprised to hear a Christian say religion is no good for anyone. Are you sure of this?!

Christianity is indeed a religion. It surely has a lot of rules, rituals, and doctrines. Baptism is one I know a lot about. That is a rule/ritual performed to make you part of the religion/faith.

The word religion comes from the latin word religare, which means to bind back. Christianly does bind you back. You cannot do certain things. Also, you have to think in the way Jesus taught you, but not outside of those teachings. That is religare binding you back. Therefore, it is a religion.

It is true christianly has astonishing ideas about god, but Many gods in ancient religions reached man. Some gods even believed to give humans many things, such as wisdom, weapons, gifts and powers and so on… Prometheus believed to give humans the gift of fire and freedom. There are identical stories in all religions. An example would be the flood myth.

Thank you.

Do not take my word, others will tell you, but I confirm 100% this is the case.


Religion is man trying to reach God, every religion does this, as mentioned rewards for doing good to get to heaven.

Christianity is God reaching out to man, and we cannot buy or work our way to heaven.


Jesus dies on the cross for our sins, God coming to man, remember the Christmas Carol, O Come, O Come Emmanuel, Emmanuel means God with us.

When Jesus came to earth 2000 years ago, God's one and only Son, God the Son came to man, to teach us what is right and to show us clearly how we can get to Heaven. Jesus died on the cross for our sins sister, He shed His Blood for our sins, He paid the price we should pay, the price we will pay if we are not born again, if we are not saved, but In true Christianity God reaches out to man, we are not worthy, we are sinners, but He did it for us.

I have just shared this in another reply to you.

John 3:16
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

Bless you

Jesus loves you, we do too.

 

[Br. Bear]

I am surprised to hear a Christian say religion is no good for anyone. Are you sure of this?!

Christianity is indeed a religion. It surely has a lot of rules, rituals, and doctrines. Baptism is one I know a lot about. That is a rule/ritual performed to make you part of the religion/faith.

The word religion comes from the latin word religare, which means to bind back. Christianly does bind you back. You cannot do certain things. Also, you have to think in the way Jesus taught you, but not outside of those teachings. That is religare binding you back. Therefore, it is a religion.

It is true christianly has astonishing ideas about god, but Many gods in ancient religions reached man. Some gods even believed to give humans many things, such as wisdom, weapons, gifts and powers and so on… Prometheus believed to give humans the gift of fire and freedom. There are identical stories in all religions. An example would be the flood myth.

Thank you.

Greetings,


religion (n.)
c. 1200, "state of life bound by monastic vows," also "conduct indicating a belief in a divine power," from Anglo-French religiun , Old French religion "piety, devotion; religious community," and directly from Latin religionem (nominative religio) "respect for what is sacred, reverence for the gods; conscientiousness, sense of right, moral obligation; fear of the gods; divine service, religious observance; a religion, a faith, a mode of worship, cult; sanctity, holiness," in Late Latin "monastic life" .

According to Cicero derived from relegere "go through again" (in reading or in thought), from re- "again" (see re-) + legere "read" ). However, popular etymology among the later ancients (Servius, Lactantius, Augustine) and the interpretation of many modern writers connects it with religare "to bind fast" (see rely), via notion of "place an obligation on," or "bond between humans and gods." In that case, the re- would be intensive. Another possible origin is religiens "careful," opposite of negligens. In English, meaning "particular system of faith" is recorded from c. 1300; sense of "recognition of and allegiance in manner of life (perceived as justly due) to a higher, unseen power or powers" is from 1530s.
from: religion | Origin and meaning of religion by Online Etymology Dictionary


The Latin term religiō, origin of the modern lexeme religion (via Old French/Middle Latin) is of ultimately obscure etymology. It is recorded beginning in the 1st century BC, i.e. in Classical Latin at the beginning of the Roman Empire, notably by Cicero, in the sense of "scrupulous or strict observance of the traditional cultus". In classic antiquity, meant conscientiousness, sense of right, moral obligation, or duty towards anything and was used mostly in secular or mundane contexts.

Etymology
The classical explanation of the word, traced to Cicero himself, derives it from re- (again) + lego in the sense of "choose", "go over again" or "consider carefully". Modern scholars such as Tom Harpur and Joseph Campbell favor the derivation from ligo "bind, connect", probably from a prefixed re-ligare, i.e. re- (again) + ligare or "to reconnect," which was made prominent by St. Augustine, following the interpretation of Lactantius.

Newer research shows that in the ancient and medieval world, the etymological Latin root religio was understood as an individual virtue of worship in mundane contexts; never as doctrine, practice, or actual source of knowledge. In general, religio referred to broad social obligations towards anything including family, neighbors, rulers, and even towards God. Religio was most often used by the ancient Romans not in the context of a relation towards gods, but as a range of general emotions such as hesitation, caution, anxiety, fear; feelings of being bound, restricted, inhibited; which arose from heightened attention in any mundane context. The term was also closely related to other terms like scrupulus which meant "very precisely" and some Roman authors related the term superstitio, which meant too much fear or anxiety or shame, to religio at times. When religio came into English around the 1200s as religion, it took the meaning of "life bound by monastic vows" or monastic orders.
from: Religio - Wikipedia



Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
James 1:27


Bless you ....><>

 

[Br. Bear]

@BubbleFlower
Greetings,

Do not take my word, others will tell you, but I confirm 100% this is the case.


Religion is man trying to reach God, every religion does this, as mentioned rewards for doing good to get to heaven.

Christianity is God reaching out to man, and we cannot buy or work our way to heaven.

Perhaps another way to put this is that mans religion is trying to reach God but God's religion is Him reaching out to man.

If you need to do or be a certain sort of lady for your boyfriend to accept you and love you, that is different from him simply loving you because he finds you to be lovable.


and as far as being 'bound' or 'bound back', i suppose to be so bound to something as this is a 'bad' or negative' thing? :

Bless you ....><>

 

[Brother-Paul]

Religion is man's attempt to coming to God, that covers most faiths

Christianity is God's attempt to reach man. Notice the big difference.

If some people want to call Christianity a religion, I understand how and why they would do so.

The important part is noting the clear difference between the two.

Religion is doing good and being rewards, gaining merits, to be able to go to heaven. man's attempt to reach God!

Christianity is the opposite, we cannot buy our way or work our way to Heaven, God reached out to us, by sending His One and Only Son so that through Him, the Cross and His blood we can be saved.

God did it for us, because He Loves us so much, Jesus died on the cross, He shed His blood for our sins. He paid the price we should pay, so that through Him we don't need to.

No Religion can say or quote what Christianity can. Christianity is taking up our cross and following Christ who died for our sins.

That is Amazing Grace, Amazing Love.

 

[Br. Bear]

Christianity is indeed a religion. It surely has a lot of rules, rituals, and doctrines. Baptism is one I know a lot about. That is a rule/ritual performed to make you part of the religion/faith.

Greetings,

there is a religious pseudo-Christianity which perhaps you are thinking about, which insist that baptism is a rule/rite to make you part of it but in true Christianity one gets baptised because they believe and love God because He first loved them.


Bless you ....><>

 

[BubbleFlower]

Greetings,

there is a religious pseudo-Christianity which perhaps you are thinking about, which insist that baptism is a rule/rite to make you part of it but in true Christianity one gets baptised because they believe and love God because He first loved them.


Bless you ....><>

Well. It is not important what I think anyway. I think we need to co-exist more than anything else and be kind. Faith is personal. We should not debate these things in my opinion. I accept what you believe and I respect it. I think Jesus is a kind person and I think he is a good teacher too. I mostly disagree with the teaching of his disciples, mostly Paul the Apostle.

 

[Sue D.]

Well. It is not important what I think anyway. I think we need to co-exist more than anything else and be kind. Faith is personal. We should not debate these things in my opinion. I accept what you believe and I respect it. I think Jesus is a kind person and I think he is a good teacher too. I mostly disagree with the teaching of his disciples, mostly Paul the Apostle.

It's Very important as to what you think and believe. And, yes, faith Is personal. Jesus Christ is the Son of God. While He was here on earth -- He was showing 'us' His Father in heaven. He died on the cross to provide salvation for everyone. Salvation from hell -- God's Word tells us that there is an after-life. Our 'death' is passing from This life into Eternal life. And that will be either heaven or hell for all of eternity.

John 14:6 tells us that "I am the way, the truth and the life, no man comes to the Father, but by Me" That is Jesus Christ talking to all of us.

If I may ask -- Why do you disagree with the teachings of His disciples and especially Paul?

 

[BubbleFlower]

If I may ask -- Why do you disagree with the teachings of His disciples and especially Paul?

I can't remember all the details about his disciples now. One of them denied Jesus, and said he did not know him. I do not take my spirituality from cowards.

Regarding Paul, wow there are tons of things. women, gays ..etc.. but It is mostly Romans 13:1-7.

As I said before, when people ask me why I am not a Christian, I only pick Romans 13, which is belief in government aka the biggest religion.

I do not accept the authority of thugs and thieves. I do not accept any authority. That is called Anarchy.

 

[Sue D.]

Hi BubbleFlower -- You're probably referring to Peter who Did deny knowing Christ those three times. That occasion took place in John 18 when Jesus Christ was being questioned by the high priest. Peter was scared that if he was recognized as being a disciple / follower of Jesus , that he, too, would end up suffering. He was scared. Another of the disciples , Judas iscariot. He actually betrayed Jesus to the Roman soldiers for money. When he actually received the money , it was worthless to him. He went out and hung himself.

Jesus Christ was here as the Son of God -- He knew what was in store for Him -- the cross. It's easy to find fault with other people. We Are to be looking at Jesus Christ as our example. Not especially other people. As you've observed -- people can disappoint us.

Government is not supposed to be a 'religion'. This passage is saying that the governing authorities are to be listened to / obeyed because they are put in place by God. And we're thinking 'How on earth or Why would God put those kinds of people in authority over us. Well --God has a plan for this world -- He is the only One who sees the Big picture.

One thing this passage says is that we are to pay taxes.

And another concept is to be obeying the laws of this land. We obey speed limits or pay the consequences. We are , in effect, obeying the Ten Commandments. The thou shalt nots -- they are actually part of our written laws -- committing adultery, killing, lying. Lots of people do some of these things all the time without even thinking about it. And we end up with 'crimes of passion'.

Do you obey the laws of This country. You're bio info says you're from the U.S. You also say that you do not accept Any authority. Does that ever get you in trouble with the law? Just curious.

Lots of people came To this country to get away from countries with a mandatory 'state' religion. They came because they wanted freedom to believe and practice their own beliefs.

 

[BubbleFlower]

Hi BubbleFlower -- You're probably referring to Peter who Did deny knowing Christ those three times. That occasion took place in John 18 when Jesus Christ was being questioned by the high priest. Peter was scared that if he was recognized as being a disciple / follower of Jesus , that he, too, would end up suffering. He was scared. Another of the disciples , Judas iscariot. He actually betrayed Jesus to the Roman soldiers for money. When he actually received the money , it was worthless to him. He went out and hung himself.

Jesus Christ was here as the Son of God -- He knew what was in store for Him -- the cross. It's easy to find fault with other people. We Are to be looking at Jesus Christ as our example. Not especially other people. As you've observed -- people can disappoint us.

Government is not supposed to be a 'religion'. This passage is saying that the governing authorities are to be listened to / obeyed because they are put in place by God. And we're thinking 'How on earth or Why would God put those kinds of people in authority over us. Well --God has a plan for this world -- He is the only One who sees the Big picture.

One thing this passage says is that we are to pay taxes.

And another concept is to be obeying the laws of this land. We obey speed limits or pay the consequences. We are , in effect, obeying the Ten Commandments. The thou shalt nots -- they are actually part of our written laws -- committing adultery, killing, lying. Lots of people do some of these things all the time without even thinking about it. And we end up with 'crimes of passion'.

Do you obey the laws of This country. You're bio info says you're from the U.S. You also say that you do not accept Any authority. Does that ever get you in trouble with the law? Just curious.

Lots of people came To this country to get away from countries with a mandatory 'state' religion. They came because they wanted freedom to believe and practice their own beliefs.

Hello Sue,

I judge people by their actions and deeds, not what they claim to be. Peter that you are defending here denied the very source of his spirituality, which was Christ. He was not scared. He was a coward. Big difference! You talk about 'crimes of passion.' Paul that you are following is a criminal himself ! He murdered and imprisoned Christians because they believed differently.

Also, this was the word of Paul, not God. In reality, this was nothing more than a 'political letter.' written by Paul himself to the Romans. Again, it is your religion and your beliefs, so not going to ask you to reject it. You just do not need to explain anything. I only was answering your question. Just know that you are not the only person with beliefs. I also have my own spirituality and beliefs. I do not talk about it a lot because It is very personal, but I am going to say a little about it anyway. I am a daughter of the "Unconquered" Stars. Freedom is the only notion I obey. Yeah, I obey speed limits and other laws, but I am talking about slavery and "the soul." You know the history about alcohol. Today, it is more about Cannabis, which is harmless. Cannabis can even cure cancer. It was against the law once for a 'white' person to marry 'black'. It is a shame that you think the God of the universe wants you to pay taxes. Also, make sure to drop the bombs when your masters order you. I am sure you can find a verse or two to support that if you wanted, too.

(Taxation is theft: By Judge Napolitano)

 

[Sue D.]

Hi BubbleFlower

I wasn't defending Peter -- I was simply sharing what Scripture tells us.

It's Bible / God's Word and what God wants everyone to be aware of.

And I have no problem sharing my beliefs and yes, everyone has their beliefs. A born-again believer usually has no problem sharing their beliefs -- salvation. Jesus Christ is the Son of God. The death, burial and bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ. Forgiveness of sins. And heaven or hell in the eternal future of everyone.

Who are the "Unconquered" Stars. Freedom is the only notion you obey?! Actually -- Everyone is answerable to Someone. Employees to a boss. Teachers to a principal. Students to their teacher. You and I and everyone to God.

Scripture Does say to pay what is owed to Cezar and to God. Government is created by God. And, yes, we Are to pay taxes.

Cannabus -- 'weed'/ pot. Very addictive // causes a person to not really care about anything. People start out with 'pot' and gravitate to more deadly drugs.

 

[BubbleFlower]

Sue,

Sorry for the late reply. I was so very busy with college and exams. I did not have any time to post until now.

I do not blame you. I understand you are supposed to share your beliefs with non-believers. I am not a believer and none of my family are Christians, but I read the bible from genesis to revelation. How many of those so called "born-again Christians" have done that? I think I know enough about the doctrines and the dogmas already. What is Spiritual about these doctrines anyway? It is all there in the book, so there is nothing new under the sun. Just show me the fruit of that faith in your life. That is the only thing that matters. I proved to my loved ones and my friends that my spiritual path works very well for me. They have seen the fruit of it many times. My spiritual path made me who I am and I am very successful.

You may find it strange, but I will be breaking a principle, if I share my spiritual beliefs with you or anyone. I have an esoteric nature. I got this from my mom but I also say this because you're much older than me, so I do not think you will understand me anyway. However, you are the one who asked, so I guess I will be forced to speak my mind and sorry if this will sound rude, but no faith or cross will save you, or take away your pain. No kisses are too deep.

Let me tell you what they are. These unconquered stars are the True Self. I am talking about the macrocosm and the microcosm. There is more to this, but as I said. I am not suppose to talk about my spirituality to outsiders.

Again, do not tell me where I can find God, because God dwells within me, and Jesus warned us about people like that.

"If those who lead you say to you, 'look, the Kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds will get there first. If they say 'it's in the ocean,' then the fish will get there first. But, the Kingdom of God is "within you" and "outside" of you. Once you come to know yourselves, you will become known." ---- Jesus Christ.

The stars come from the Greek word astron. Our ancestors have always used the planets and the stars. They developed calendars and told us many wise stories. All so called Holy Scriptures have their origins in the stars; the seven lights are the Sun, the Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. Our ancestors united astrology, astronomy and theology. Jesus is actually God’s SUN and not God's son. Psalm 84:11: "God is a SUN and shield."

“As long as you still experience the stars as something "above you", you lack the eye of knowledge.” – Nietzsche. In short words, I know thyself, just like Jesus said.

Freedom is indeed the only notion to obey. Jesus did not say worship me and make me a religion! Jesus said, "Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."

So yeah back to that. I am a daughter of the stars. I am Sol Invictus myself, and I have the right to live by my own Spiritual Law; the right to think what I will, to speak what I will, to build what I will, to dress what I will, to eat and drink what I will, and I have the right to kill those who thwart those rights. My Will be done.

 

[Sue D.]

Hi BubbleFlower -- I've been doing lots of researching this evening.

Hermeticism -- based on writings of Hermes Trismegistus

Gnostic tradition -- gnosis =esoteric -- held by ancient Gnostics to be essential to salvation. microcosm / macrocosm

There are 7 areas.

I Have heard of the Gnostic Gospels. considered to be false gospels.

Hermes is in Greek mythology?!

I'm Trying to get a grasp on what you're talking about.

Now - Why aren't you supposed to talk about your spirituality to outsiders? I mean -- who knows -- you Might get a convert to your concepts.

And If I told you that I don't have inner pain --

Your first paragraph has been very thought-provoking. You've said that you've read the Bible from cover to cover -- intellectually you are aware of the doctrines / dogmas --that sounds interesting. And it sounds like you're a fairly intelligent young woman -- college exams and everything.

You realize that Genesis 1:1 says that "in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."

The spiritual mystery would be How Christ can be in us. Jesus Christ is the Son of God -- He is 'God incarnate' -- Jesus Christ came into this world as a Jewish baby born to Mary and Joseph. That's what Christmas is all about.
Jesus Christ came into this world to show us His Father through all the miracles He performed. Then He gave His live for us on the cross of Calvary. He shed His blood for us. He went to hell in our place and came back -- bodily resurrection. And after 40 days, He ascended back up to heaven. to sit at the right hand of God the Father.

The mystery of His will found in Ephesians 1:9 - 10 -- that entire chapter is a good explanation. vs 17 and following verses.

And Proverbs 2 is a good book and chapter. // wisdom/ knowledge/ understanding.

Trust you've had a good day today.

 

[Sue D.]

Will add 'this' as found in Colossians 1:27 "To them God willed to make known what are the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles -- which is Christ in you - the hope of glory. "

Colossians is a great book, too.

It's late -- 11 pm.

 

[BubbleFlower]

Well do not worry about my spiritual path, but I do not convert people, or recruit others, ever. My path is not for everyone. It requires breaking taboos and swimming against the stream. It makes people uncomfortable, and it is also dangerous, but "narrow the road that leads to life and only a few find it." I only talk about my spiritual journey with like-minded people. I do not use the verb "convert" in spiritual circles. I use the verb, to initiate. This is also more of a self-initiation. Nobody saved me or made me the way I am. Science to me is the pursuit of knowledge no matter where that trail leads me and the greatest barrier against knowledge itself is the single thought in one's mind that they already have it figured out in a book. So yeah, "To keep silence" is a principle within my spirituality. I am only responsible for myself. I careless what others believe. Everyone is on their path. We are all different. What works for me does not work for others. You need to find what works for you.

I apologize if what I wrote is provoking. It is not easy sometimes for me to communicate without being a bit sharp. There is truth in the bible, but you need to understand it in spiritual manner not in a religious way. The Book of Revelations is my favorite.

 

[Sue D.]

God's Word tells us in John 14:6 that "I am the way, the truth and the life, no man comes to the Father but by Me" Jesus Christ is saying that.

From the book of Revelation you know that in the end of time as We know it -- there is either heaven or hell in Everyone's future. And eternity is Forever. As you also know -- 'heaven' is really the New Jerusalem brought down from heaven by God and That is where born-again believers will dwell for Ever. The only other place is the lake of fire and brimstone. That location is only meant for satan, the beast and the false prophet. God has made a way of escaping That for everyone Else.
All anyone needs to do is acknowledge their personal need For salvation From and accept God's way. Really very simple.

Only the Holy Spirit is able to convert anyone.

And, yes, Christianity definitely is swimming against the stream and going Against 'society'.

And, yes, "narrow the road that leads to life and only a few find it." But, compared to the millions / billions of people populating this world from the beginning with Adam and Eve Until eternity -- a 'few' are a LOT of people.

God's Word tells us that we are special in His eyes -- but left to ourselves -- we are in reality , nothing. Everything is in and through Him. John 1 tells us that.

Well -- don't we All 'initiate' conversation with others frequently? You've initiated conversation 'here' and I'm responding. We're hearing each other's perspectives about Bible and our beliefs.

And, yes, science Is the / a pursuit of knowledge.

God has all the answers -- 'we' never will have. God's word is living / convicting/ teaching. Even the most gifted of preachers / teachers should Still be in the learning mode.

And, yes, God Has created all of us as unique people / personalities. Each of our worlds' / paths are different.

You are being honest in expressing yourself.

Well -- the Bible / Gods' Word IS truth.

Your comment about spiritual and religious ways is interesting. A person can be 'religious' -- doing lots of rituals in a church service. Or doing a lot of good things in their daily lives. All fine and good things -- But isn't that usually in an attempt to 'get to God' by doing those 'good things'? where as 'spirituality' is what God has already done for all of us / our appreciating that. It's our worshiping God. It's the inner desire to 'worship' something / someOne.

Lots of people are searching -- and they come across someone who shares the Gospel unto salvation with them. God's love -- Jesus Christ His Son / His death, burial and bodily resurrection all for Them. And discover that That is what they've been looking / searching for. Or they pick up a Bible / God's Word and start reading and realize that That is what they've been looking for. There Is the need to personally accept it. Thanking God For it. And then they will have a desire To share their faith with others.

We learn from God's Word And each other.