I need some insight and/or answers on this so please help me because I'm terrified....I have asked Jesus to be my savior so many times and everytime that I do, no matter how hard I try, things in my life get crazy out of control and I end up falling away because I get so defeated. Right now I am going through the worst time of my life and it seems like everything I've ever done wrong is constantly filling my head to the point where I can't think about anything else. The thing that comes up the most is that before I asked Jesus into my life, I was really bad into drugs and some friends of mine and me were in a hotel room smoking pot and we didn't have any rolling papers. Someone mentioned that a page from the Bible would work, so I tore the first page of Genesis out and we rolled it up and smoked it....I feel so sick to my stomach and the thought of that haunts me constantly, eventhough it was nearly 10 years ago and I wasn't a Christian at the time. On top of the tormenting thoughts, I constantly get all of these horrible thoughts in my head and I constantly get the urge to curse God out but I don't, I hold it all inside no matter how hard it is to do because it's not what I want to do and it feels like they are my thoughts. I feel so dark, evil, and helpless and I am terrified. I am tormented constantly day and night it just keeps getting worse. I know it's pride to say this, but am I too lost to be saved or have I fallen away so many times that God wants nothing to do with me? It really feels that way to me and the thoughts in my head tell me that I am hopeless and going to hell. I've tried to talk to a pastor at my church about this, but he just went through the gospel and explained to me how sin seperates us from God and didn't really answer my question. I know this might sound ridiculous, I myself find it to be as I think about what I'm writing, but I'm serious....Please help me!!!!
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Jeffness.Your struggles and observations of your sinfulness sounds familiar.Some times we may feel like we are constantly falling away because we havent come to that place where we feel filthy enough.But there will come a time when you shall find out that it is precisely because of our very filth and maddening isanity of sin that we need desperately to be cleansed,desperately to be saved from our selves.
Your wrestleings with your self are all part of this great process,your a man with a mission. We will never arrive unless we fight the good fight.All the internal cursings are indicative of a willingness for pride,at times such as this I would pray for large quantities of humility.Romans 7:24-25.
Determine in your self that you are going to declare war on your own self,then once your mind is made up begin to boldly confess your need to God .God already knows our every thought,by confessing you are acknowledging Him that He exist and is a rewarder of those who seek Him.I know you are in desperate need of solid answers if this will make you feel a little better,the bible says (Jeremiah 17:9.)The heart is deceatful above all things,and desperately wicked:who can know it?
All genuine believer must sooner than later go through this process of seeing just how wretched sin is in us.
He that is forgiven for the darkest vilest of sin ,will also love Him who released him from his shackles more intensely.
Have faith in that He will increase your faith.
Arm your self with the word as your weapon to wage a good war. 2Corinthians 10:4-6
Your wrestleings with your self are all part of this great process,your a man with a mission. We will never arrive unless we fight the good fight.All the internal cursings are indicative of a willingness for pride,at times such as this I would pray for large quantities of humility.Romans 7:24-25.
Determine in your self that you are going to declare war on your own self,then once your mind is made up begin to boldly confess your need to God .God already knows our every thought,by confessing you are acknowledging Him that He exist and is a rewarder of those who seek Him.I know you are in desperate need of solid answers if this will make you feel a little better,the bible says (Jeremiah 17:9.)The heart is deceatful above all things,and desperately wicked:who can know it?
All genuine believer must sooner than later go through this process of seeing just how wretched sin is in us.
He that is forgiven for the darkest vilest of sin ,will also love Him who released him from his shackles more intensely.
Have faith in that He will increase your faith.
Arm your self with the word as your weapon to wage a good war. 2Corinthians 10:4-6
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Greetings jeffness,
First ... who is your accuser..... it is not Jesus! No, He loves you and always will.... do you believe in Him or the accusations against you?
Who wants you to doubt Jesus, and to doubt His forgiveness?
It is the enemy of your soul, the devil, who wants to drag you back into his den of iniquity and he wants to destroy what God has given you in Jesus Christ the Lord.... BUT, he has to get past the Lover of your soul, Jesus... and so take comfort in His eternal Love for you, brother.
Often we can forget that we are not our own and also we tend to think we are masters..... BUT, there are only two.... one Loves you, the other does not. One gives you hope and life, the other wants to deceive you and turn your eyes from Jesus. Our thoughts must be taken captive by us, and if they steal from His Peace and Hope and Joy, reject them... drive them out quickly, and do not let them linger a moment, for like weeds, they will take root and spoil the fragrant garden of the Lord's Love for you.
Trust in the Lord... only Him, and lean not on your own understanding. Trust His Word.... it is His, and therefore can be trusted. (see Proverbs 3:5&6)
The very fact that you are battling with such thoughts is proof that they don't come from the Prince of Peace, Jesus Christ the Lord. He died for you, paying the highest price to deliver you unto Himself.... He is Lord, and the Good Lord, the good Shepherd.
Trust Him IN His Love.
Bless you ....><>
Br. Bear
First ... who is your accuser..... it is not Jesus! No, He loves you and always will.... do you believe in Him or the accusations against you?
Who wants you to doubt Jesus, and to doubt His forgiveness?
It is the enemy of your soul, the devil, who wants to drag you back into his den of iniquity and he wants to destroy what God has given you in Jesus Christ the Lord.... BUT, he has to get past the Lover of your soul, Jesus... and so take comfort in His eternal Love for you, brother.
Often we can forget that we are not our own and also we tend to think we are masters..... BUT, there are only two.... one Loves you, the other does not. One gives you hope and life, the other wants to deceive you and turn your eyes from Jesus. Our thoughts must be taken captive by us, and if they steal from His Peace and Hope and Joy, reject them... drive them out quickly, and do not let them linger a moment, for like weeds, they will take root and spoil the fragrant garden of the Lord's Love for you.
Trust in the Lord... only Him, and lean not on your own understanding. Trust His Word.... it is His, and therefore can be trusted. (see Proverbs 3:5&6)
The very fact that you are battling with such thoughts is proof that they don't come from the Prince of Peace, Jesus Christ the Lord. He died for you, paying the highest price to deliver you unto Himself.... He is Lord, and the Good Lord, the good Shepherd.
Trust Him IN His Love.
Bless you ....><>
Br. Bear
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Jeffness,
Hold tight God loves you as if you were the only individual in the universe, he loves you as much as he loves his son!
I am on my way out the door to work, when I found your posting.
Your problem is not you and I think I can help.
I promise to come back and explain but remember this you ARE loved and wanted by God no matter what you think you may have or have not done!
Think about the following and I will see you soon:
In Christ, you don't get forgiven, YOU ARE FORGIVEN!!!!!
Joe
Hold tight God loves you as if you were the only individual in the universe, he loves you as much as he loves his son!
I am on my way out the door to work, when I found your posting.
Your problem is not you and I think I can help.
I promise to come back and explain but remember this you ARE loved and wanted by God no matter what you think you may have or have not done!
Think about the following and I will see you soon:
In Christ, you don't get forgiven, YOU ARE FORGIVEN!!!!!
Joe
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Hope this work in jesus name...
Hi jeffness,
greetings in jesus most precious and holy name....I must say that this is the third time i'm attempting to respond to your post but the enemy always find a way to mess things up and so i hope it just goes through this time........God help me please.
So my response is to show you of how true Eph 6:12 is when it says
"we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of darkness of this age, against spiritual host of wickedness in the heavenly places"
The reason for me responding is because upon reading your post my mind immediately flashed back to a book i read a few days ago called "Deliverance from the powers of Darkness" by Emmanuel...(umm i cant remember his surname so please excuse me)
However it speaks about a man whose early life experiences were triggered by a series of unfortunate events...believed to have derived from the powers of darkness(witchcraft).
At the age of fifteen he reunited with an old classmate who took him as a husband...she was absolutely beautiful, ranked high in status and was 5 years older than he was...
seeing this as an opportunity to get away from all his troubles he agreed and went with her, who a short while after introduced him to the devil.....Literally! he became a part of the spirit world and functioned as an agent for the devil.
However God intervened and gave him a second chance and instructed him to write his testimony....
These agents of the devil, one of their main functions was set out to ensure that the newly converted were to become backsliders....they knew when someone was newly converted by looking at something like a T.V. upon see this they would try their best to get that person to backslide by tormenting them, by setting their boss against them, by wrestling with them physically, causing sicknesses and everything in their willpower to get that person to become frustrated and quit.
(Just to show how desperate they were)He told of how they would try their best to stop a newly converted from spreading their testimony even if it meant death!, majority of the cases of barrenness were caused by them, and how miscarriages were also caused by them as an act to refill their blood banks...and a lot of different things
My friend whatever you are going through are clearly the works of the devil and his agents so remember "whom the sun has set free is free indeed!"....for the sake of the cross you are redeemed...For the sake of the cross you are free.
They are trying to trouble your spirit so they can have another soul for their kingdom but don't give up just feed yourself with the word of God and use your authority.
Every time the devil comes up to you rebuke him in the name of jesus and Emmanuel warned to "be careful to cast him in a specific direction.....e.g to the bottomless pits of hell or into dry and desolate places.
Go and let the people know where God brought you from by spreading your testimony..we overcome the devil by the blood of the lamb and the word of our testimonies......--Rev 12:11
Oh and before i go after reading your post i opened the testament and this is what i dropped upon: (am not sure what it means but i hope it means something to you)
"2 Corinthians 7:For observe this very thing that you sorrowed in a godly manner:what diligence it produced in you, what clearing of yourselves, what indignition, what fear, what vehement desire, what zeal, what vinidiction! In all things you proved yourselves to be clear in this matter".
God bless you.
Hi jeffness,
greetings in jesus most precious and holy name....I must say that this is the third time i'm attempting to respond to your post but the enemy always find a way to mess things up and so i hope it just goes through this time........God help me please.
So my response is to show you of how true Eph 6:12 is when it says
"we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of darkness of this age, against spiritual host of wickedness in the heavenly places"
The reason for me responding is because upon reading your post my mind immediately flashed back to a book i read a few days ago called "Deliverance from the powers of Darkness" by Emmanuel...(umm i cant remember his surname so please excuse me)
However it speaks about a man whose early life experiences were triggered by a series of unfortunate events...believed to have derived from the powers of darkness(witchcraft).
At the age of fifteen he reunited with an old classmate who took him as a husband...she was absolutely beautiful, ranked high in status and was 5 years older than he was...
seeing this as an opportunity to get away from all his troubles he agreed and went with her, who a short while after introduced him to the devil.....Literally! he became a part of the spirit world and functioned as an agent for the devil.
However God intervened and gave him a second chance and instructed him to write his testimony....
These agents of the devil, one of their main functions was set out to ensure that the newly converted were to become backsliders....they knew when someone was newly converted by looking at something like a T.V. upon see this they would try their best to get that person to backslide by tormenting them, by setting their boss against them, by wrestling with them physically, causing sicknesses and everything in their willpower to get that person to become frustrated and quit.
(Just to show how desperate they were)He told of how they would try their best to stop a newly converted from spreading their testimony even if it meant death!, majority of the cases of barrenness were caused by them, and how miscarriages were also caused by them as an act to refill their blood banks...and a lot of different things
My friend whatever you are going through are clearly the works of the devil and his agents so remember "whom the sun has set free is free indeed!"....for the sake of the cross you are redeemed...For the sake of the cross you are free.
They are trying to trouble your spirit so they can have another soul for their kingdom but don't give up just feed yourself with the word of God and use your authority.
Every time the devil comes up to you rebuke him in the name of jesus and Emmanuel warned to "be careful to cast him in a specific direction.....e.g to the bottomless pits of hell or into dry and desolate places.
Go and let the people know where God brought you from by spreading your testimony..we overcome the devil by the blood of the lamb and the word of our testimonies......--Rev 12:11
Oh and before i go after reading your post i opened the testament and this is what i dropped upon: (am not sure what it means but i hope it means something to you)
"2 Corinthians 7:For observe this very thing that you sorrowed in a godly manner:what diligence it produced in you, what clearing of yourselves, what indignition, what fear, what vehement desire, what zeal, what vinidiction! In all things you proved yourselves to be clear in this matter".
God bless you.
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My friend- as a dad I can tell you that I will not reject my son because he stumbles and falls into the mud. I will pick him up, clean him off and set him back on his feet. Your heavenly Father will do no less. The very fact you are here expressing such concern reveals to me that the Holy Spirit is even now drawing you.
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Truth
The reason I ask this question is sometimes when people ask Jesus to be their Saviour that’s all they did. They didn’t have a heart change. They didn’t repent of their sins, they didn’t ask for forgiveness. They didn’t make Christ Lord of their life. They just got what some people call “fire insurance” That is not biblical, that is not true Christianity.
The reason I ask this question is sometimes when people ask Jesus to be their Saviour that’s all they did. They didn’t have a heart change. They didn’t repent of their sins, they didn’t ask for forgiveness. They didn’t make Christ Lord of their life. They just got what some people call “fire insurance” That is not biblical, that is not true Christianity.
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In agreement ,
may I share these verses for your meditation Brother jeffness,
Ro 8:1 There is, then, now no condemnation to those in Christ Jesus, who walk not according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit;
Zec 4:6 ‘Not by might nor by power, but by My Spirit,’ Says the LORD of hosts.
Jas 4:7 Submit therefore to God: resist the Devil, and he will flee from you.
Bless you
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Hello and welcome to Talk Jesus jeffness.
I know of a man who killed Believers in Christ for a job. The man was very religious and thought he was doing God's perfect will. His name was Saul he hated any who trusted in Jesus Christ cause he thought they were corrupting the Jewish system/ their law. But one day as he was going to Damascus to kill the christians, Jesus revealed himself to Saul. This same Saul who is also called Paul (Acts 13:9) would become in most Christians opinion the greatest Apostle of all.(Read Acts 7:58-8:3 and Acts 9:1-31)
Paul would later write that we as believers are the epistle of God (epistle is a letter or even the word see II Corinthians 3:2.) So in this sense he destroy God's Word also. Paul wrote all the books in the New Testament starting with the Book of Romans to Book of Philemon in the New Testament and many believe he also wrote Hebrews.
Right now you feel like you have sin so greatly God can't forgive you! But there is no sin God can't forgive. If you sin again asked God to forgive you He will (please read I John 1:7-2:1). Paul wrote in Romans 7:14-25 that the law is good but he (or we) are not.
The good news is
II Corinthians 5:21
"For He hath made Him (Christ) to be sin for us, who kenw no sin, that we might be may the righteousness of God in Him."
Please understand once you become a Christian you don't become sinless just forgiven. We each struggled against sin the victory we get is thru Christ Jesus.
I John 1:9
"If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse from all unrighteousness."
Paul wrote:
I Timothy 1:15
"This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief."
Paul a murderer called himself a chief sinner. Yes rolling a page of the Bible into a joint is a great sin. But if you asked Jesus to forgive you it know longer exist it not that you didn't do it, it is because it is under the blood of Christ (I John 1:7). I remember a pastor in Germany preaching saying if God has cast our sins into the depth of the sea (Micah 7:19) we have no business going fishing for them.
Will keep you in my prayers jeffness.
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Heart vs. Head Christian
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Though the Holy Spirit does give the spiritual gift of discernment to us and some more, some less, depending on his purpose, I would not go around being so bold as to say who is a Christian.
For example, from my experience of 40 years of marriage to my wife, I would say that she is a Christian but, truly only the Lord knows what is in a wo/ man's heart.
But, in that context Bambi, I agree with you, a person must have a heart change not just a head change. I talk to so many people that
Say that they are Christians but I am not sure. I am not sure that they have had a heart change yet, I mean the Spirit of God living in them.
I consider myself as a good example of this. After previously being in my current church for 30 years , I now look back and believe that I was a "Head Christian". For those first thirty years I knew of God and Christ but I didn't know God and Christ.
Not until 5 years ago, when I did my due diligence, and actually invited Christ in did I become a "Heart Christian".
The irony of all this time without Christ, is the actual having him come in and change me was simple and fast.
Now, for me, God tells me this one caveat to seal the deal! In order to realize the promise of him living in you, it must be an act of receiving God's grace. His grace means a gift and it's free. There is absolutely nothing a person can do, if it were dependent on that, it would not be Grace.
In order to tie Grace, Repentance and Forgiveness in together, please remember this :
Christ said that for "Heart Christians", He is the vine and we are the branches, if we are in Him, we will bare much fruit but, apart from Him, we can do nothing.
These fruits are deeds, but they are His deeds not ours, less we would not be working under Grace. Repentance is not the same as forgiveness. The act of repentance is a fruit of the Holy Spirit. When He tells you where you have wronged ; you make amends, you have completed a deed from the vine.
God says that there is no forgiveness without the shedding of blood. How many times did Jesus shed blood for our sins? One time and for all sins.
Allow Christ to work through you and guide you into continued repentance But, In Christ you do not get forgiveness, you are forgiven!
In His Peace,
Joe
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I say the following in all love, kindness and respect:<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com
fficeffice" />Though the Holy Spirit does give the spiritual gift of discernment to us and some more, some less, depending on his purpose, I would not go around being so bold as to say who is a Christian.
For example, from my experience of 40 years of marriage to my wife, I would say that she is a Christian but, truly only the Lord knows what is in a wo/ man's heart.
But, in that context Bambi, I agree with you, a person must have a heart change not just a head change. I talk to so many people that
Say that they are Christians but I am not sure. I am not sure that they have had a heart change yet, I mean the Spirit of God living in them.
I consider myself as a good example of this. After previously being in my current church for 30 years , I now look back and believe that I was a "Head Christian". For those first thirty years I knew of God and Christ but I didn't know God and Christ.
Not until 5 years ago, when I did my due diligence, and actually invited Christ in did I become a "Heart Christian".
The irony of all this time without Christ, is the actual having him come in and change me was simple and fast.
Now, for me, God tells me this one caveat to seal the deal! In order to realize the promise of him living in you, it must be an act of receiving God's grace. His grace means a gift and it's free. There is absolutely nothing a person can do, if it were dependent on that, it would not be Grace.
In order to tie Grace, Repentance and Forgiveness in together, please remember this :
Christ said that for "Heart Christians", He is the vine and we are the branches, if we are in Him, we will bare much fruit but, apart from Him, we can do nothing.
These fruits are deeds, but they are His deeds not ours, less we would not be working under Grace. Repentance is not the same as forgiveness. The act of repentance is a fruit of the Holy Spirit. When He tells you where you have wronged ; you make amends, you have completed a deed from the vine.
God says that there is no forgiveness without the shedding of blood. How many times did Jesus shed blood for our sins? One time and for all sins.
Allow Christ to work through you and guide you into continued repentance But, In Christ you do not get forgiveness, you are forgiven!
In His Peace,
Joe
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I’ve been thinking of this passage all day long and felt I should post it for you Jeffness.
Luke 18:18And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
19And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
20Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.
21And he said, All these have I kept from my youth up.
22Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.
23And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich.
24And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!
25For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
26And they that heard it said, Who then can be saved?
27And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.
I’ve been thinking of this passage all day long and felt I should post it for you Jeffness.
Luke 18:18And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
19And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
20Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.
21And he said, All these have I kept from my youth up.
22Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.
23And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich.
24And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!
25For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
26And they that heard it said, Who then can be saved?
27And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.
Dear Jeff
You did not complete your part in coming into the kingdom of God.
Read ACTS 2: 38, it involves first repentance of your sins, which I beleive you have done but you also have to baptise in water in the name of Jesus and THEN receive the holy spirit into your heart which then makes you a christian with the power and help you need to move boldly as a christian.
The Holy Spirit will reveal all truth to you after you have baptised in Jesus name or in the name of the FAther, Son and Holy Spirit. Thats when your life will truly begin to change and things will begin to make sense.
I pray you decide to do this soon in Jesus name amen.
Yours in Christ
Lizabe
You did not complete your part in coming into the kingdom of God.
Read ACTS 2: 38, it involves first repentance of your sins, which I beleive you have done but you also have to baptise in water in the name of Jesus and THEN receive the holy spirit into your heart which then makes you a christian with the power and help you need to move boldly as a christian.
The Holy Spirit will reveal all truth to you after you have baptised in Jesus name or in the name of the FAther, Son and Holy Spirit. Thats when your life will truly begin to change and things will begin to make sense.
I pray you decide to do this soon in Jesus name amen.
Yours in Christ
Lizabe
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Some more verses for you Jeffness.
Luke 9:<SUP id=en-KJV-25324 class=versenum value="22">22</SUP>Saying, The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be slain, and be raised the third day.
<SUP id=en-KJV-25325 class=versenum value="23">23</SUP>And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
<SUP id=en-KJV-25326 class=versenum value="24">24</SUP>For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.
<SUP id=en-KJV-25327 class=versenum value="25">25</SUP>For what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away? <SUP id=en-KJV-25328 class=versenum value="26">26</SUP>For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.
Some more verses for you Jeffness.
Luke 9:<SUP id=en-KJV-25324 class=versenum value="22">22</SUP>Saying, The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be slain, and be raised the third day.
<SUP id=en-KJV-25325 class=versenum value="23">23</SUP>And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
<SUP id=en-KJV-25326 class=versenum value="24">24</SUP>For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.
<SUP id=en-KJV-25327 class=versenum value="25">25</SUP>For what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away? <SUP id=en-KJV-25328 class=versenum value="26">26</SUP>For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.
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Thank you Bambi!
I agree completely. I haven't been a member long but have already been chastised for speaking against water baptism as a requirement for salvation.
I think that water baptism can be a beautiful thing, an open act of your dedicating yourself to the Lord.
Communion is also beautiful if you allow it to be and is a wonderful way to remember what Christ has done like he instructed us to do.
But neither of these is required of your salvation.
Joe
Thank you Bambi!
I agree completely. I haven't been a member long but have already been chastised for speaking against water baptism as a requirement for salvation.
I think that water baptism can be a beautiful thing, an open act of your dedicating yourself to the Lord.
Communion is also beautiful if you allow it to be and is a wonderful way to remember what Christ has done like he instructed us to do.
But neither of these is required of your salvation.
Joe
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Yes, here are some verses to back it up. Since there are so many I’ll just give references.
Acts 10:42-48, Acts 16:30-31, Luke 23:39-43, 1 Cor 1:17-18, John 3:3-18(being born of water is not water baptism).
One more thing, the book of Romans is a book that shows a person they are a sinner then it takes them to salvation and beyond but Rom 6:4, is the only verse that contains the word baptism in it and it’s not referring to water baptism but spiritual baptism.
Yes, here are some verses to back it up. Since there are so many I’ll just give references.
Acts 10:42-48, Acts 16:30-31, Luke 23:39-43, 1 Cor 1:17-18, John 3:3-18(being born of water is not water baptism).
One more thing, the book of Romans is a book that shows a person they are a sinner then it takes them to salvation and beyond but Rom 6:4, is the only verse that contains the word baptism in it and it’s not referring to water baptism but spiritual baptism.
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your never too far from grace
I know that alot of people have responded to your post but God just wouldnt let me not try to help or encourage you in any way. I know it can be frustrating going up an down trying to keep your eyes on God while theres so many things in this world trying to get your attention. Im just gunna tell you what God showed me.
Proverbs 24:16 (New International Version)
<SUP class=versenum id=en-NIV-17096 value="16">16</SUP> for though a righteous man falls seven times, he rises again,
but the wicked are brought down by calamity.
It doesnt matter how much you fall, all that matters is that you get back up, no matter what. Your sins are forgiven, so i think its time to forgive yourself. This world wants to keep you down but you know that inside of you God has placed the ability to go much much higher. The enemy doesnt want you to get up because he knows that theres gunna be that one time where you get back up, and conquer that sin. When you get back up you give that dirtly old Devil a big kick in the face. It says in the bible that whenever his kids come to him he rejoices over them with singing. Remember that whenever you've fallen and you come to God for forgiveness....that hes just SO happy that you've come to him and SO willing to recieve you with open arms, no matter what. Romans 8:27-28 If you have recieved him, rejoice! He has recieved you and your name IS written in the lambs book of life. Be happy about it! And trust HIS power over your sins and have faith in his blood and just watch what happens..you'll be amazed. As long as your humble and williing you'll see his love at work in your life.
I know that alot of people have responded to your post but God just wouldnt let me not try to help or encourage you in any way. I know it can be frustrating going up an down trying to keep your eyes on God while theres so many things in this world trying to get your attention. Im just gunna tell you what God showed me.
Proverbs 24:16 (New International Version)
<SUP class=versenum id=en-NIV-17096 value="16">16</SUP> for though a righteous man falls seven times, he rises again,
but the wicked are brought down by calamity.
It doesnt matter how much you fall, all that matters is that you get back up, no matter what. Your sins are forgiven, so i think its time to forgive yourself. This world wants to keep you down but you know that inside of you God has placed the ability to go much much higher. The enemy doesnt want you to get up because he knows that theres gunna be that one time where you get back up, and conquer that sin. When you get back up you give that dirtly old Devil a big kick in the face. It says in the bible that whenever his kids come to him he rejoices over them with singing. Remember that whenever you've fallen and you come to God for forgiveness....that hes just SO happy that you've come to him and SO willing to recieve you with open arms, no matter what. Romans 8:27-28
If you have recieved him, rejoice! He has recieved you and your name IS written in the lambs book of life. Be happy about it! And trust HIS power over your sins and have faith in his blood and just watch what happens..you'll be amazed. As long as your humble and williing you'll see his love at work in your life.
