Hellp I think I'm going to hell
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One of our Pastors preached on this passage last night. I think this might fit into this discussion.
Eph 4:17-32
17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,
18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:
19 Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.
20 But ye have not so learned Christ;
21 If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:
22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
25 Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.
26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:
27 Neither give place to the devil.
28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.
29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
One of our Pastors preached on this passage last night. I think this might fit into this discussion.
Eph 4:17-32
17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,
18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:
19 Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.
20 But ye have not so learned Christ;
21 If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:
22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
25 Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.
26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:
27 Neither give place to the devil.
28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.
29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
Father God I pray for our brother in Christ, I ask that you will create a new heart in him O Lord and renew a very steadfast spirit within him, keep him by your awesome love and power from all willful sin and hidden sin in Jesus mighty name. Show yourself to him with such strength Father, he needs you Lord so desperately, set him free Father set his feet on a firm place and I delclare that though he stumble he will NOT fall for you uphold him with your mighty hand, thank you Lord that the work you begun in him you will complete.
Father I ask you to send true children of God into his life to support, sustain and encourage him, Father please increase his love for You and his desire to read and meditate on your living Word, Father God put songs in his heart and on his tongue, may praise and worship flow from the fountain in his belly for You O God of Jeffness in Jesus mighty name - amen.
God bless you right outa your current mind
All my love
beam
Father I ask you to send true children of God into his life to support, sustain and encourage him, Father please increase his love for You and his desire to read and meditate on your living Word, Father God put songs in his heart and on his tongue, may praise and worship flow from the fountain in his belly for You O God of Jeffness in Jesus mighty name - amen.
God bless you right outa your current mind
All my love
beam
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Romans Chapter 6
Read this Jeffness.
1What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
3Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7For he that is dead is freed from sin.
8Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
11Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
12Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
13Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
14For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
15What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
16Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
17But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
18Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
19I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.
20For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.
21What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.
22But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit
unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
23For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Read this Jeffness.
1What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
3Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7For he that is dead is freed from sin.
8Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
11Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
12Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
13Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
14For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
15What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
16Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
17But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
18Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
19I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.
20For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.
21What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.
22But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit
unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
23For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
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Romans 8:1-17
Romans 8:1-17
1There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
Romans 8:1-17
1There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
don't fear, try to understand the love of God
Dear Jeffness
please don't worry, you are in hurry to see the goodness in your life, please don't worryl. i pity you on your position.. i love you in christ, God also also loving you more than us..
please read carefully,
1. first understand your self.........
who is accusing you ? is world? is any purticular person?
or ... is Jesus is accusing you ? do you know ?
only your mind is accusing on you, only your concience is accusing on you. so you are not thinking and doing very wrong things..
Toring the bible papers and making roles and smoking is not give the clearence in your circumstances..
doing any work is not give the peace to you.,.
first you try to know.... only there is big struggle in your mind..
you are with some own desires ..in family and all..
when your desires are not fulfillling you are feeling alot.. stop to feel, try to know the struggle, which is fighting in you..
Pro 16: 32 He that is slow to anger is better than the mighty; and he that ruleth his spirit than he that taketh a city..
dear Jeffness .. angry, feelings, never wins the life struggles..
making cegars with bible paper roles and smoking not gives the peace.. first you control the mindset..
Pro 19: 11 The discretion of a man deferreth his anger; and it is his glory to pass over a transgression.
we can get out from our struggles by checking with the comparision of the word of God..
2. Second don't make any doubt on God's Love..
if a father is with kids, if kid is in suffering with sickness.. we can see the kids wants to sleep on mother or father's shoulder only.. kid never makes any doubt on father or mother.. if any one comes to take care of that kid, he don't agree to go and sleep on others shoulders.. Only he trusts the mother or father..
Here you have to trust, God as heavenly father. He is father for us.. we have to trust him, he is with some plans on our lives.. His plans more than our plans.. we never give a blade to our kids, which is harmfull for them. So God is also with knowledge to give the needed things only. He gives good things than our selections. we have to wait and see..
Don't forget, when we are in sins, He sent his only son Jesus to give the blood in calvary for our sins.. what a great love
so i request you to please be happt,
please make your mind free
please trust Lord
please wait in Lord
don't do waste things in your own way
see the results .. even for long time also
God will definetly restor you to right place..
thank you , we will pray for you, and add you to our prayer list,,
a servant of God
Dear Jeffness
please don't worry, you are in hurry to see the goodness in your life, please don't worryl. i pity you on your position.. i love you in christ, God also also loving you more than us..
please read carefully,
1. first understand your self.........
who is accusing you ? is world? is any purticular person?
or ... is Jesus is accusing you ? do you know ?
only your mind is accusing on you, only your concience is accusing on you. so you are not thinking and doing very wrong things..
Toring the bible papers and making roles and smoking is not give the clearence in your circumstances..
doing any work is not give the peace to you.,.
first you try to know.... only there is big struggle in your mind..
you are with some own desires ..in family and all..
when your desires are not fulfillling you are feeling alot.. stop to feel, try to know the struggle, which is fighting in you..
Pro 16: 32 He that is slow to anger is better than the mighty; and he that ruleth his spirit than he that taketh a city..
dear Jeffness .. angry, feelings, never wins the life struggles..
making cegars with bible paper roles and smoking not gives the peace.. first you control the mindset..
Pro 19: 11 The discretion of a man deferreth his anger; and it is his glory to pass over a transgression.
we can get out from our struggles by checking with the comparision of the word of God..
2. Second don't make any doubt on God's Love..
if a father is with kids, if kid is in suffering with sickness.. we can see the kids wants to sleep on mother or father's shoulder only.. kid never makes any doubt on father or mother.. if any one comes to take care of that kid, he don't agree to go and sleep on others shoulders.. Only he trusts the mother or father..
Here you have to trust, God as heavenly father. He is father for us.. we have to trust him, he is with some plans on our lives.. His plans more than our plans.. we never give a blade to our kids, which is harmfull for them. So God is also with knowledge to give the needed things only. He gives good things than our selections. we have to wait and see..
Don't forget, when we are in sins, He sent his only son Jesus to give the blood in calvary for our sins.. what a great love
so i request you to please be happt,
please make your mind free
please trust Lord
please wait in Lord
don't do waste things in your own way
see the results .. even for long time also
God will definetly restor you to right place..
thank you , we will pray for you, and add you to our prayer list,,
a servant of God
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If Jesus Christ lives in your hart there is no way how you can ever go to hell. Ask God to help you and you will forget about this thaught. If you die and Jesus lives in your hart you will go to heaven.
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What's up?
What is going on with you now? I haven't seen a response from you since your first post. If you think you are a Christian then live like Christ. Get involved in a Bible believing church. Study God's word and grow. Don't stay a babe in Christ, mature in Christ. What's up?
Gods amazing way he gives us what we need
I realize this is an old thread but I just had to post my experience last night. I had been feeling the way the orignal poster (Jeff) had been feeling. It had been made worse when I heard part of a sermon where a man stands before God, and although the man had been going to church and said he knew God, God said to the man "I don't know you".
I have been away from God for a number of years, there were times I went through the motions of being a christian, but the heart wasn't there, I continued to sin. Six months ago I came back, again asked Jesus Christ to be my saviour, the difference this time is I really wanted him, I could no longer run my life.
Since then, things have been better, my basic needs have been met. My wife and daughter followed my steps and also accepted Jesus Christ and I can say I have seen a change in them as well as my grandchildren as well. I don't seem to have alot of the urges of sins I used to commit, the thoughts sometimes appear, but the urge is gone and the thought is quickly pushed aside y mentioning how great God is.
I've been praying at least once a day, I'm not even sure I'm doing that right, sometimes I'm just talking to him like I would a friend. I've been going to church, bible study and reading his word as often as I can or when I remember to. And even though I can't always give a tithe, I've been giving my time and labor to the church.
But the feeling such as Jeff(?) had and those of my own that what I'm doing may not be enough, that I would still be a stranger to God still persisted.
Then last night I came across this thread. When I read it I cried, and felt a peace I haven't felt in a while. Today I fell better, I feel like I'm on the right path. Funny how God gives you just what you need when you need it.
I realize this is an old thread but I just had to post my experience last night. I had been feeling the way the orignal poster (Jeff) had been feeling. It had been made worse when I heard part of a sermon where a man stands before God, and although the man had been going to church and said he knew God, God said to the man "I don't know you".
I have been away from God for a number of years, there were times I went through the motions of being a christian, but the heart wasn't there, I continued to sin. Six months ago I came back, again asked Jesus Christ to be my saviour, the difference this time is I really wanted him, I could no longer run my life.
Since then, things have been better, my basic needs have been met. My wife and daughter followed my steps and also accepted Jesus Christ and I can say I have seen a change in them as well as my grandchildren as well. I don't seem to have alot of the urges of sins I used to commit, the thoughts sometimes appear, but the urge is gone and the thought is quickly pushed aside y mentioning how great God is.
I've been praying at least once a day, I'm not even sure I'm doing that right, sometimes I'm just talking to him like I would a friend. I've been going to church, bible study and reading his word as often as I can or when I remember to. And even though I can't always give a tithe, I've been giving my time and labor to the church.
But the feeling such as Jeff(?) had and those of my own that what I'm doing may not be enough, that I would still be a stranger to God still persisted.
Then last night I came across this thread. When I read it I cried, and felt a peace I haven't felt in a while. Today I fell better, I feel like I'm on the right path. Funny how God gives you just what you need when you need it.
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Praise God.
Glad to read this, Just keep doing what your doing. Glory to God.
Jesus Is Lord.
Glad to read this, Just keep doing what your doing. Glory to God.
Jesus Is Lord.
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Thank-you for sharing brother wmg819. Old thread doesn't mean as you have seen, that it won’t apply or touch others as it has touched you. Your testimony is valid because it is yours, and yours to share which is awesome. As words in these posts have touched you, so will your words touch others during their time of need.
That our Lord will see us through it all is a joy and a comfort that only someone who knows the Lord as their Savior can know. The realization that He is there and will always be there for us....has me saying Alleluia, Alleluia, Alleluia!
Keep growing brother!
YBIC
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That our Lord will see us through it all is a joy and a comfort that only someone who knows the Lord as their Savior can know. The realization that He is there and will always be there for us....has me saying Alleluia, Alleluia, Alleluia!
Keep growing brother!
YBIC
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I can understand some of what your going through Jeffness.It really seems like He has left you and He doesnt love you no more. But its actually the opposite of what we think. The devil wants you to believe those lies and besides; Satan ruled our lives, for probally sometime; Until, we told him to get a life and let go of ours. After accepting the Lord Jesus, to come in and be the Lord, of our life, instead. Well old Satan boy just hated, what you did. Heck, he was on the losing end, not you. When we hear the devil whisper, those little lies about where or whatever he had a stronghold on, in our lives. Wether, it may have been any of these: Love, life, adultery, sexual sin, stealing, murder, abortion, which craft, slander, fighting, gossiping, looking at porn, name calling, backstabbing, etc... and the list is endless. These are all convictions and are all forgiveable. God still Loves you and He wants to heal you. Keep asking The Father of Love to cleanse your heart and mind. Keep praising and worshipping Him and asking Him to heal, protect and shield your mind. Don`t give up and tell satan to buzz off cuse he has no power over a child of God. Praise the Lord All Powerful, Yahweh, Lord of Lord King of Kings. Thank You Jesus, Thank you Father( Daddy), for Loving us to the core and the depths of our soul and for chasing us down, for convicting us and for the discipline. You are all, we`ve ever needed, Father(Daddy). At times we didnt realize how much we needed You Father(daddy); But as days, weeks, months, years went on, we learn this. Thank You Father for Loving, caring, protecting, shielding, helping, guiding, leading, forgiving, waiting and reaching out to us on returning home. We thank you Father for being so faithful when we haven`t been. thank You Father that You would send Your Son, to the Rescue. That Your Son, would die for Us, on the Cross and yet we were sinners. We were, so many evil things; But yet, You Lord, still loved us so much. All we can say is WOW Father(Daddy) Your just amazingly wonderful and most awesome. Some might die for an amazingly good man; But our Lord Jesus Christ, give His life to save ours, when we were still sinners. AMEN:smiley:
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Hi Jeffness,
Do you believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross for YOUR sins? Do you believe he died to set YOU free from the condemnation that sin brings?
Guess what Jeffness, no one has ever lived a perfect life. But Jesus did, and he was YOUR sacrifice!
Jeffness, all of your sins are washed away. At this very moment God loves you and has your best interests at heart.
If you believe in Jesus, and what he accomplished on that cross, you have NOTHING to fear! Sin has lost its power, the serpent's head has been crushed!
When you sin, go to God! When you are happy, give thanks to God! When you bear fruit, recognize it is God's work!
I too have been depressed because I haven't bore much fruit in my life. But guess what, WE don't do anything! Jesus is the vine and God is the gardener, the fruit will come when it's ready!
Till then, have JOY knowing God loves you, and has already forgiven you! We Christians so EASILY forget the gospel, AKA... THE GOOD NEWS
Do you believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross for YOUR sins? Do you believe he died to set YOU free from the condemnation that sin brings?
Guess what Jeffness, no one has ever lived a perfect life. But Jesus did, and he was YOUR sacrifice!
Jeffness, all of your sins are washed away. At this very moment God loves you and has your best interests at heart.
If you believe in Jesus, and what he accomplished on that cross, you have NOTHING to fear! Sin has lost its power, the serpent's head has been crushed!
When you sin, go to God! When you are happy, give thanks to God! When you bear fruit, recognize it is God's work!
I too have been depressed because I haven't bore much fruit in my life. But guess what, WE don't do anything! Jesus is the vine and God is the gardener, the fruit will come when it's ready!
Till then, have JOY knowing God loves you, and has already forgiven you! We Christians so EASILY forget the gospel, AKA... THE GOOD NEWS
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