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How the covid vaccine was made

I'm not nitpicking. I believe that truth is precious. I'm calling you out on something you've said that is false.
 
It's not.
Your cherry picked top page Google result isn't evidence as I've said. Articles are submitted, reviewed, and removed even after years of it being part of peer review.

Confidential Pfizer Documents confirm 82-97% of COVID Vaccinated Pregnant Women sadly lost their Baby during Trial​


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Do you see the pattern?
 
@MedicBravo I have already linked to the original reseach report of the scientists who conducted the phase 2/3 trial. Im struggling to think what evidence could be more compelling.

I'm a little worried for your state of mind, as on this issue it appears to be bordering on the obsessive.
 
@MedicBravo I have already linked to the original reseach report of the scientists who conducted the phase 2/3 trial. Im struggling to think what evidence could be more compelling.

I'm a little worried for your state of mind, as on this issue it appears to be bordering on the obsessive.
So? That paper has one author.
He is not the expert. In fact, no person is The Expert in anything. When someone is an "expert" it is in a niche part of an overall something. No person has the authority to make such a decision.
The NEJM may be a good standard but they are not he sole authority in anything either. If you're looking for more accurate info than any DOT com anyone can make it's a good start.
This is nowhere near obsession. Stalking your user here and following you around? That would be obsession. Finding out where you live to harass you? That would be the delusional mind of the Left and obsession.
I lose no sleep of you believe that COVID was a "new virus" or that these "vaccines and boosters" work when they don't. God has taught me to care and do more for people I'll never meet.
I highly suggest you find more than a first page, top result Google search. Find and learn as much as you can. COVID-19 Provisional Counts - Weekly Updates by Select Demographic and Geographic Characteristics
 
So? That paper has one author.
He is not the expert. In fact, no person is The Expert in anything. When someone is an "expert" it is in a niche part of an overall something. No person has the authority to make such a decision.

There's a few things wrong here. First, the report in NEJM is not the work of one person. The authors are:

  • Fernando P. Polack, M.D.,
  • Stephen J. Thomas, M.D.,
  • Nicholas Kitchin, M.D.,
  • Judith Absalon, M.D.,
  • Alejandra Gurtman, M.D.,
  • Stephen Lockhart, D.M.,
  • John L. Perez, M.D.,
  • Gonzalo Pérez Marc, M.D.,
  • Edson D. Moreira, M.D.,
  • Cristiano Zerbini, M.D.,
  • Ruth Bailey, B.Sc.,
  • Kena A. Swanson, Ph.D.,
  • Satrajit Roychoudhury, Ph.D.,
  • Kenneth Koury, Ph.D.,
  • Ping Li, Ph.D.,
  • Warren V. Kalina, Ph.D.,
  • David Cooper, Ph.D.,
  • Robert W. Frenck, Jr., M.D.,
  • Laura L. Hammitt, M.D.,
  • Özlem Türeci, M.D.,
  • Haylene Nell, M.D.,
  • Axel Schaefer, M.D.,
  • Serhat Ünal, M.D.,
  • Dina B. Tresnan, D.V.M., Ph.D.,
  • Susan Mather, M.D.,
  • Philip R. Dormitzer, M.D., Ph.D.,
  • Uğur Şahin, M.D.,
  • Kathrin U. Jansen, Ph.D.,
  • and William C. Gruber, M.D.
Second, if 'no person has the authority to make such a decision', who would have the authority to fail the vaccines at phase 3 of the tests?
 
Confidential Pfizer Documents confirm 82-97% of COVID Vaccinated Pregnant Women sadly lost their Baby during Trial
I already explained how that fake news site came to that conclusion.

The paper worded the results in an interesting way. 82% of pregnancies had nothing to report.

Yes... Because they were healthy births. No problems reported!
 
There's a few things wrong here. First, the report in NEJM is not the work of one person. The authors are:

  • Fernando P. Polack, M.D.,
  • Stephen J. Thomas, M.D.,
  • Nicholas Kitchin, M.D.,
  • Judith Absalon, M.D.,
  • Alejandra Gurtman, M.D.,
  • Stephen Lockhart, D.M.,
  • John L. Perez, M.D.,
  • Gonzalo Pérez Marc, M.D.,
  • Edson D. Moreira, M.D.,
  • Cristiano Zerbini, M.D.,
  • Ruth Bailey, B.Sc.,
  • Kena A. Swanson, Ph.D.,
  • Satrajit Roychoudhury, Ph.D.,
  • Kenneth Koury, Ph.D.,
  • Ping Li, Ph.D.,
  • Warren V. Kalina, Ph.D.,
  • David Cooper, Ph.D.,
  • Robert W. Frenck, Jr., M.D.,
  • Laura L. Hammitt, M.D.,
  • Özlem Türeci, M.D.,
  • Haylene Nell, M.D.,
  • Axel Schaefer, M.D.,
  • Serhat Ünal, M.D.,
  • Dina B. Tresnan, D.V.M., Ph.D.,
  • Susan Mather, M.D.,
  • Philip R. Dormitzer, M.D., Ph.D.,
  • Uğur Şahin, M.D.,
  • Kathrin U. Jansen, Ph.D.,
  • and William C. Gruber, M.D.
Second, if 'no person has the authority to make such a decision', who would have the authority to fail the vaccines at phase 3 of the tests?
Gain of function. Fauci loves it.
I see a lot of Ph.D which are not medical doctors. Regardless the NEJM is not a governing body nor have the authority like the CDC has made you believe they do. Still nitpicking.
Even if you had 100 that's not evidence.

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Pharma is not on your side.
Weird how your "report" isn't all over the news, radio, etc. That should be big news right? One study doesn't clarify nor dictate anything. If you want more validity, you give the info to other groups so they can test it. If it's not repeatable it's a bad test, article, etc.
Evil CNN should be having that info on a loop every hour.
 
I already explained how that fake news site came to that conclusion.

The paper worded the results in an interesting way. 82% of pregnancies had nothing to report.

Yes... Because they were healthy births. No problems reported!
You have no authority to decide what is fake news.
All MSM is fake news.
If any deaths are "acceptable" given no long term data and the mounting evidence against you and the rest that says a lot about you.
"Get your booster. Get your booster. Get your booster. Comply. Comply. Comply".
 
My local paper reported that they got 7.6 million out of it.

If they can't read a paper and falsely claim that 40,000 pregnant people lost their baby...

Lol
Did it now? Evidence?
Despite the agency’s prior claims that it began adverse event reports in February 2021, Dr. Walensky acknowledges in a letter that the CDC did not evaluate adverse event reports at all in 2021.


“CDC performed PRR analysis between March 25, 2022, through July 31, 2022,” Walensky said. “CDC also recently addressed a previous statement made to the Epoch Times to clarify PRR were not run between February 26, 2021, to September 30, 2021.”

Go ahead and keep believing what their lies. So many people who know far more than you will continue to spread the truth.

Funny b/c you think you've figured it all out and that you alone are "right".
 
So far you are the outlier.

As for my county, they got 7.6 million. Front page headlines.
 
Hello,
Once again, consider that we are in the last days. There is deception at all levels.

1 John 2:17-19 - Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour.

Jeremiah 17:5 -Cursed is the man who trusts in man And makes flesh his strength, whose heart departs from the Lord.

Proverbs 3:5 -Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding;

2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 - And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

I pray all who listen to Doctors, Scientists, and PhD's. Pray for wisdom from the LORD, before believing what professionals are saying.

Matthew 24:23-25 - Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There!’ do not believe it. 24 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you beforehand.
 
Gain of function. Fauci loves it.
I see a lot of Ph.D which are not medical doctors. Regardless the NEJM is not a governing body nor have the authority like the CDC has made you believe they do. Still nitpicking.
Even if you had 100 that's not evidence.

CVS, Walmart, Walgreens Agree To $13.8 Billion Opioid Settlement: Report​



Pharma is not on your side.
Weird how your "report" isn't all over the news, radio, etc. That should be big news right? One study doesn't clarify nor dictate anything. If you want more validity, you give the info to other groups so they can test it. If it's not repeatable it's a bad test, article, etc.
Evil CNN should be having that info on a loop every hour.
I have linked to the published research of the phase 3 trial for the pfizer covid vaccine. It was this research that was used as the basis for approving the vaccine for use in the UK the US and mosr countries worldwide. I dont understand why you are still stickibg to the idea that the vaccines failed the phase 3 trials.

Can you explain why you believe this?
 
So? That doesn't prove anything.
Every research and pharmaceutical company/group in this relies largely on grants and donations. MONEY runs it. It runs everything. People will including those who made that "paper".
Fauci also got a bunch of beagle dogs to do tests on, severed their vocal cords so they couldn't make a sound and tortured them for "testing and progress".
 
I'm a little worried for your state of mind, as on this issue it appears to be bordering on the obsessive.
Dear Brother,
Just keep in mind that he didn't start the thread! :cool:
Yes, he is passionate about it, but so are others on both sides of the issue.

My issue with this at all is that God's Word has little or nothing to do with any of this talk.
Like it's all in a bubble away from God's control/influence!

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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what you are saying here is straightforwardly wrong.

Here's the results of the phase 2/3 trial of the Pfizer vaccine, https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2034577 reported in the New England Journal of Medicine.

A total of 43,548 participants underwent randomization, of whom 43,448 received injections: 21,720 with BNT162b2 and 21,728 with placebo. There were 8 cases of Covid-19 with onset at least 7 days after the second dose among participants assigned to receive BNT162b2 and 162 cases among those assigned to placebo; BNT162b2 was 95% effective in preventing Covid-19 (95% credible interval, 90.3 to 97.6). Similar vaccine efficacy (generally 90 to 100%) was observed across subgroups defined by age, sex, race, ethnicity, baseline body-mass index, and the presence of coexisting conditions. Among 10 cases of severe Covid-19 with onset after the first dose, 9 occurred in placebo recipients and 1 in a BNT162b2 recipient. The safety profile of BNT162b2 was characterized by short-term, mild-to-moderate pain at the injection site, fatigue, and headache. The incidence of serious adverse events was low and was similar in the vaccine and placebo groups.​
Conclusions
A two-dose regimen of BNT162b2 conferred 95% protection against Covid-19 in persons 16 years of age or older. Safety over a median of 2 months was similar to that of other viral vaccines.​

You might have all sorts of concerns about the safety of the vaccines and the credentials of the companies that produce them, but the fact remains that the vaccines did pass the phase 3 trial. If they hadn't, they would not have been approved for use.
Sorry but Medic bro is right watch this video! You need trust in Jesus Christ not science!
 
Sorry but Medic bro is right watch this video! You need trust in Jesus Christ not science!

I wasn't making any scientific claims, just correcting the inaccurate reporting of the scientists' findings.

You tell me not to trust science, then follow it with a video of evidence given by a ... scientist. Do you see the inconsistency?
 
What "science"?
I and others have given so many facts and "science" which your people like to call and still you deny it.
"Instead of gratitude, some people ,who have absolutely not a clue about science, microbiology and medicine are jumping to all sorts of incorrect conclusions. Then spreading their paranoia everywhere." - Stating the same thing over and over again despite the evidence against you is a sign of delusions.
"Think of the plagues that mercilessly killed millions in the past." - Oh no! Forbid being on a Christian site and suggesting what God has done is "bad".
There was mention of that bodybuilder guy on here yesterday. Healthier than 98% of the world and in the older age bracket. He even made a statement that if he died after he got the shot that we were right. He got the shot and died. No health issues.
Also, the PC statement about us "crazy and paranoid" people is just your opinion. When doctors in my state had their own evidence and presented it they were threatened for revealing the truth.
I know I'm not alone in we wish you could change your ways.
I wasn't making any scientific claims, just correcting the inaccurate reporting of the scientists' findings.

You tell me not to trust science, then follow it with a video of evidence given by a ... scientist. Do you see the inconsistency?
I do see the inconsistency. However My point, tho is that we were lied to. All I’m saying is that we should definitely trust in our Lord more than science. Not all scientists are bad obviously the scientist in the video has a good heart and is brave enough to speak up about this evil.
 
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