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How to Get Jehovah's Witnesses to LISTEN

Sorry Chad and Rizen1, it is probably my fault, I was going to make a point to HisChildfor a statement about the corrupted spelling of Jehovah when the same is done for Yahshua. Guess it led way off topic, again I'm sorry. I will wait for another thread to be opened up on this topic.
 
I have tried in vain to get my daughter in law who is a JW to come along to the church I attend as it is Metropolitan, Evangelical, JW's and Mormans all come, but it has been wasted.
I even tried getting her interest in the Christamas Play as the family as a whole are going but still no, she and my son are the only 2 not going.

I have bought her a book 'All ways lead to God?' which I read first, weither she even read it or not I don't know.

She is definatly hard to get to. they are so grounded in what they're taught it is near impossible to budge them.
 
Peace to you sister.

JW's are taught that they are the only ones in the 'truth', and that everyone, and every church, is either a facet of 'the enemy' or in danger of leading them to 'the enemy'.

And they will not have anything at all to do with Christmas. Or birthdays. Both of these are 'pagan'.

I mentioned it earlier but in case you missed, Raymond Franz (Nephew of past president Fred) wrote 'Crisis of Conscience': he was 'disfellowshipped' in the '80's after a prolonged period of quesioning both the teaching and practices of the JW's.

There are several on-line resources also, just type Jehovahs Witness into Google. There also on-line communities for former JW's, who are probably the best people to talk to about how to cope with this, but prayer and trusting Him are the strongest rescources you have right now.

And I will keep you in my prayers. Have you asked your own churche for prayer support in this?

Blessings to you sister, and may the peace of Christ fill you in all things.
 
Sorry Chad and Rizen1, it is probably my fault, I was going to make a point to HisChildfor a statement about the corrupted spelling of Jehovah when the same is done for Yahshua. Guess it led way off topic, again I'm sorry. I will wait for another thread to be opened up on this topic.

All blessings to you Jiggy.

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I have tried in vain to get my daughter in law who is a JW to come along to the church I attend as it is Metropolitan, Evangelical, JW's and Mormans all come, but it has been wasted.
I even tried getting her interest in the Christamas Play as the family as a whole are going but still no, she and my son are the only 2 not going.

I have bought her a book 'All ways lead to God?' which I read first, weither she even read it or not I don't know.

She is definatly hard to get to. they are so grounded in what they're taught it is near impossible to budge them.

I will be praying for her, its hard to witness to them.

What makes it so hard is that " they are not allowed to read anything outside of the church "

I'll be praying for your Son, he is the head of His house not the JW board of commitee. Its unfair that he misses out time with the family because a cult is brainwashing people.

I think the best way to her would be through your Son.

Give him the books, tracts, articles, websites, get him on your side. You dont want her to be complaining to him about you always giving her stuff.

He is the Head.
 
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He'd accept nothing, he got saved and fell away straight way, lasted only a few months if that, I don't believe he had a true conversion.
He wants nothing to do with 'church' things at all, she at least will accept them, but him, no definatly not.

He goes to some of her meetings see's nothing wrong in mixing the two.
She as a JW was delighted he got saved, was born again, now that doesnt' tally as they are at logger heads those 2 beliefs as they have totally so many differant beliefs and we all know who's is man made.

I've just not bothered, I've asked if they want to come as a family thing to the Christmas Drama in my church they were the only two in the whole family who refused to go.
 
it just so happens....

Several years ago a very nice young lady came to our house to "save" us. She was from the local JW temple. I, in spite of my wife's silent protests, invited her into my home to talk about her faith. Well, I don't remember what was said exactly but apparently it produced enough interest to prompt her to bring her mother with her next time. My first encounter with her mother was very strange but after I had explained the trinity to her I could tell she was intrigued. Every other week they would come bringing more and more people. At one point we had 4 Jehovah's witnesses in our living room. Every time they would lovingly leave me the latest Watch Tower publication which I would read. At the time, I thought that perhaps they really were christian but just from a different view point.


I remember having a discussion about who Jesus was with them that resulted in me doing some research on them on the internet where I found out alot about them. I began to realize that the primary difference of opinion was who Jesus was/is. Apparently they are taught that Jesus is a special angel, possibly Michael, the Arch Angel, that God sent to earth to suffer and die for our sins. My first thought was, why would a loving God send someone else to die for our sins? A loving father would surely put Himself in that position, not ask someone else to do that! Well, to make a very long story short eventually they sent the big guns after several weeks of saying, "I don't know, let me get back to you on that..." The next time they came they had their answer to my questions.


I didn't like the fact that their "bible" was different than mine and that fact immediatly raised a flag in my mind. But anyhow, it came down to a battle of pricipalities. So, I being in the continuous process of reading the entire bible, began to make note of all the verses in both testaments that clearly stated that Jesus and God the father are one. Eventualy I finally presented that list of verses to them. They of course said that they would have to review these and get back to me. Well, that was pretty much the last time I saw them.
I still pray for the young lady who first came to my house and her mother because I believe they are victims of an extremely sinister deception. She even came to our house one time with two black eyes and claimed that she had fallen down the stairs which my instinct told me wasn't true at all. These people need help, prayer and the truth. Every one of them that came to my house was a very nice person who loved God very much.

They are just deceived and their walk with God is extremely compromised. Lets all pray for them because it is my belief that these are some of the most potentially powerful christians on earth that have been caught in one of the most sinister traps the evil-one has ever produced!
 
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hadoz
I do understand your sympathy for these people but their leaders have much to answer for.
They are being fed lie after lie and unfortunatly they are believing them wholeheartedly, instead of finding out more, inquiring and asking all sorts of questions, like lambs to the slauter.
Though isn't that just typical of more religions.

I find there is just 'no talking, no discussion' at all with my daughter in law, therefore I tried to get her interest through books I'd given to her, 'Do All Ways lead To God?' was one, the other one they both read was 'Run Baby Run' by Nicky Cruz this was the powerful one which lead my son to discover who Christ was and get saved although when he returned home to his wife the JW as he was left her and staying with me at that time, he started the slippery slide downhill rapidly, and is now backslidden, see, she started confusing him with her man made belief and he ate the bait.
He was just a babe in Christ, what did he know, not how to hold on, I tried but my efforts weren't wanted.

Now I too am going through a terrible time, in a deep deep valley, and all this seems not just as important, though it is, but just not now to me.

My Dad died, though saved, last year, this year, his last brother died, though only saved 4months at 81yrs, I had the greatest of pleasure of pointing him to the Saviour, then the next week I took 2 differant infections, severe saitica, which lead to extremely painfull spasms as I have osteoprosis, I was bed ridden for 8 days, then my husband who verbally abuses me in drink, not sober, did another one of his usual outbursts and wrote me a letter telling me to live in my Uncles house (he had left it to me in his will) not the first time he's put me out of my home and it's always when I'm not well myself,

I did this, took my wee dog of 14yrs with me and my wee Grandson came too he's 10yrs, we are great pals, I thank god and pray I will be influence on his young life, well half way through that week, my wee dog took very ill and had to go to vet, she had to be put to sleep, she had a disease I never knew about a tumor.

I have been wrecked, my husband though great support sober see's no wrong in what he does to me, the drink clouds his mind, it controls him.

Although he only drinks maybe once every two/three weeks it's enough to take, as he lashes out with his tongue at me every time, it's my Christianity gets a blow, he wrote he couldnt' live with my lifestyle anymore, he'd be happier off without me, we will have been married 36yrs next month, if I manage to see it.

At 54 yrs I cannot live this way anymore, he is never sorry, see he thinks he does no wrong so what has he then to be sorry about?

I'm at my tether's end, I told him I'd walk away, go to hell, live like the heathen, as this life is tormenting him, but I can't, I thank God I can't, I didnt' go to church last night, I did go in the morning but I always go both, he goes on the night as a rule, guess it was to stop him, I don't know.

sorry if this thread needs to move, it's okay, I found myself just drifting off on this, didnt' mean to, sorry again, I have no one, to turn to, my youngest son 23yrs seems to be the only one who cares what happens to me, as for the other 3 who are all older, no, not even my Mum, things are strained between us lately, since Dad died, I guess it was maybe I was his wee girl, I don't know, and Mum is a Christain, although doesnt' attend church and hasnt' for most of her walk, and that's 17yrs, so she's not grown, saved and stuck as they say.

I took myself of in the car my Uncle also gave me, and stayed away overnight in a lovely seaside town, my wee Grandson came with me we had a joyous time, that's were we went to a Baptist church, I didn't want to return home, and when I did I was so down.

Were to? what do I do?
hubby says last night we'll try again, but he drinking will continue, the verbal abuse will happen again, what then?

I've lost touch with my God, I find prayer hard, I've let him down so badly, I know he forgives and forgives but I can't, I know we don't forgive ourselves, I've just read a book on it, cause if we can't then we are not accepting His forgiveness.

I did get an encouraging word in that wee Baptist church, was
1 Samuel 14 v 6
And Jonathan said to the young man that bare his armour, Come, and let us go over unto the garrison of these uncircumcised: it may be that the LORD will work for us: for there is no restraint to the LORD to save by many or by few.

Maybe I'm more like Saul, I won't wait on the Lord to tremble his heart.

all I know is I'm weary, wore down, and distraut.
Much has happend these past few months, I've never had the like of it.
I can't stop weeping for my wee dog Elle, a black Pomeranian, she really was faithfull, with unconditional love, my shadow I nick named her.

Sorry this post has been so long, I hope you maybe can give some answers or if not some reassurance on my spiritual life.
Oh how poor Job must have suffered those friends of his.
But if is I who is wrong then so should I suffer it.

Thank you
 
Maureen, dear sister, may the peace of Christ fill your heart and spirit tonight.

You are going through a great deal all in one go - such a lot of troubles can make prayer life hard, but you do not forsake God despite all these problems and I want to take a moment to thank God for your devotion to Him; whatever troubles your heart, your spirit knows the firm rock to which it is tethered in Him.

Praise the Lord for that.

You will be in my prayers and I know that the Fathers Hand is on you and guiding you through all things.

Blessings
 
I so thank you sisters for such wonderful comfort and blessing, seriously I do.
I couldn't walk away, I know I threatened it, but I also knew them cords of love wouldn't break from me, every time I pulled He pulled harder, He knew my heart, it was my tongue speaking evil, my heart is buried in Him, what does the world have to offer?
Nothing with a capital N
I love my life in Christ it's just so hard to get the understanding that I am forgiven for my unrational outburst, the things I threatened etc.
Prayer-I feel so unworthy to speak to a King after the things I said.
although I have scraped a few words together.
I am depending on the Lord's hand to reach and touch and lead me as to what I do.
I just know I'm not right, but I also know I love Jesus, and I want to remain His always.
I have cried repentence.
Just to hear 'your forgiven' would do it.
thank you all again, I need your support, it so helps.

Krysti I printed out that link you gave, to read and soak in later to myself, thank you.
 
I love this verse,

Ps:34:18.
The Lord is close to the brokenhearted;
he rescues those whose spirits are crushed.


I'm filled with joy to be able to bless you sister.
Give God the Glory for He directed me to that link.
God bless you Maureen
 
Hi Maureen,

I just finished catching up on this thread and the first thing that popped into my head was The Full Armor of God. Whenever I hear about bad things happening to christians in rapid succession I always suspect that they are under attack by the evil one. First of all YOU ARE FORGIVEN! Stand on the promises of God! He says in His Holy word that you are forgiven as a believer in Christ. Christ took it all to the cross with Him once and for all. Trust the bible, it's the truth and you can bank on it. Do we deserve forgiveness? No. That's what makes it so hard to believe it's true, but never-the-less it IS true. The bible says you are forgiven.

In prayer try to concentrate on your salvation, have faith that God loves you and will never leave you nor forsake you, believe in God's righteousness that your belief in Jesus is right and the word is right because God is right. Trust that you have the truth of life in your hands, the bible. Then stand firm and face the enemy seeking peace with those around you instead of conflict and strife. This is how I view the full armor of God and it is very important to trust these things when under attack.

Without this rock to hold onto, the enemy will knock you down then kick you and beat on you. Grab the rock and hold on. It will pass, God won't let you suffer needlessly but right now the enemy is using those around you to hurt you and beat you down. So pray and ask God to send His angels to protect you, He will. It's your heart that's being assaulted and the way to our hearts is through our minds. The devil is lying to you saying you're not good enough making you doubt your forgiveness. Read the truth of the bible out loud and tell the devil he's nothing but a liar.

The battle starts with your very thoughts, that's where the devil will attack you and it sounds like he's also using those close to you to say and do things that hurt you. Ask God to help you forgive them, ask Him everyday. Don't carry bitterness in your heart and that's not even possible for us to do without God's help many times. So ask Him to help you forgive them, then pray for them, pray for God to bless them. They need help too.

Sorry if I sound a little over zealous, it's just that I have felt the same way as you many times and now I know how to combat this so I wanted to share this with you. It also sounds like there are people here who are praying for you too, I will join them. Remember, you are a child of God the Father Almighty and you have many brothers and sisters in Christ who love you. He chose you and He loves you beyond measure!


Hadoz
 
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Hadoz/Rizen1

lovely, but know what, I found what I was looking for in God's word.
When Peter denied Jesus thrice, he also cursed and swore it said, and look how the Lord loved on him.
This really spoke volumes to me, it was only then that my head started to rise up, 'when my heart is overwhelmed, lead to the rock that is higher than I'
It worked, then through the night, I had a lovely, awsome time with Jesus reassuring me I was forgiven, it was all very vague, but I know I had my hand raised and He was ministering to me, I can't say exactly what it was but I just know it was reassurance.
How blessed is that, although I don't deserve it, but Satan is the father of lies, but at the name of Jesus even he must flee, cause he's a defeated foe, Hallelujah.

Thank you all, I'm doing well, I'm back heading toward that mark for that prize.
Let's keep keeping on for Jesus, till we go up.
Hallelujah.
All prayers graciously welcomed, many are praying all over the net. I'm gratefull.
 
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I'm so pleased about that.
The firey arrows are still arriving but I'm learning to duck well, and have such a better attitude to deal with them.
I'm not missing the blessing of God for anyone or anything again,
so duck and dive I shall and our God will go before me.
Keep praying
 
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