I believe my son is lost to the Lord.

[Shutterbug]

Hi Dave;

As I see it, no one is lost to the Lord unless A) He decrees it; or, B) they're dead with having repented. While I'm not condoning it, people sometimes live in rebellion to their parents, and to God. You can lead a horse to water to drink, but it won't drink a single drop until its thirsty.

Correct dead to While to read: dead without having repented. While

 

[Farmer Dave]

Hello Everyone, once again I am honestly thrilled to see such lovely Christ-filled people as yourselves give your attentions to my issues.

I truly am blessed to live in this age of our Lord's world!

I have a rather interesting update... my son and wife have been arguing for weeks, and last night it came to boiling. There was an argument, the same as many. His mother insisted he change his lifestyle and Eli rebelled. He threw a plate and broke it, and locked himself in his room. I got an earful of course, and my wife went to bed early, I believe she is very angry at him.

I went to Eli's room, but I heard him in tears so I waited almost an hour before I went in to speak to him. It broke my heart to see him how he was, he seemed angry but not fierce. Just defeated. We sat together for a little while in silence, then he told me how he felt. It truly upset me, and I thought through all the bible has taught me. I'm not one for quotes, but I understand how to love, and I know why we all love being loved. I hugged him, and asked him if he would like help moving out.

He told me in honesty he was terrified of leaving, and he agreed he did not know if he could trust these men he was talking to. He told me he was sorry for what he did, and what he was.

My son is a homosexual, I am not afraid to admit this truth. I will not shun him. I will love him. I will pray he finds the Lord, but I will not force him into his beliefs.

I am unsure if my wife will feel the same way, but tonight I feel happy and I hope my child is smiling as he nods off to sleep.

Thank you Talk Jesus forum users.

 

[Shutterbug]

Good morning Dave;

At least you know what the problem is. It's typically the fathers who take the more hostile reactions, but your wife will eventually calm down. I met a chap years ago with whom I formed a friendship. I met his parents and they were really nice. His dad mentioned to me that every time they introduced girls (not literally) to his son, he would run the other way. That scenario was confirmed to me after his son had put moves on me which were declined, As much as they drive me to distraction sometimes, I prefer women. I didn't have the heart to tell him what his son really was. His son and I had turned 40 that year. I moved away from that area ten years ago and have seen him in passing a few times since.

Leaving the nest can be a daunting challenge, especially for those who don't get out much and moving in with a group one has yet to personally experience. His knowing that you are concerned for his welfare will definitely be of help. Phil 4:8. Quo vadis?

 

[Wired 4 Fishen]

A bit of back story before I begin to tell the story of all that has befallen my child, and though he still may be lost to God I love him dearly.

My family consists of me, my wife Anne and my son Eli. We live way out in outback Australia and farm for a living, growing most of what we eat. It's a wholesome existence and we all love it greatly, but my son has always been rather lonesome. I think he's reclusive by nature, and he reads a lot (he gets VERY involved in his books).

I've urged him to follow the Lord's teachings, and until recently he's seem to accept them well. I've never been one to censor his reading or video game playing, because with such an open report between us I know I can guide him to think critically and understand that what he reads, or what he plays isn't real and though some of it may be sinful he understands (and enjoys) that he is only committing these sins virturally and would never do so in the real world.

About two years ago (he was 15), I checked on him late at night since I noticed his lights were on. I was shocked to find him masturbating to drawn homosexual pornography depicting animals eloping. Immediately I yanked the power cord out of his computer and took his mouse away.

The new morning I told my wife and she suggested we remove the internet from our household. Unfortunately, this far out (where the closest decently sized town is over 2 hours drive), the internet is our only realistic hope of keeping up to date in this crazy rapid world we live in. I spoke firmly with my son, and he admitted he was a homosexual to me.

I did not know if I should be furious with him, or with myself. I researched for weeks, barely speaking to him before I passed my judgement and I felt a rift had formed between us because of this. I told him no matter who he loves, that I will always love him and we both were happy, but we were never as close as we once were.

However this last week has left me very worried. My son had to go into town to see a doctor (we usually set him up in a hotel over night to not pressure him to drive late, when there is risk of hitting a kangaroo) and I was cleaning his room.

I noticed his laptop was on, and he was getting chat alerts from Skype. There were 3 different people sending him messages- all of them had Avatars of various animals, some of them inappropriate. They seemed to be Roleplaying with my son (who was under a persona named "Bloodfox Shadow"), and all of the chat logs were highly inappropriate! I was absolutely and utterly appalled with what I was reading, I looked through all of his contacts and most of them he was engaging in Erotic Roleplay with.

Shocked, I looked through his documents and found countless drawn images of large animals engaging in various homoerotic poses- blatant porn.

When my son got home, I confronted him about it. He told me he was a 'furry' and that it was this kind online community that had given him many friends because he often felt so alone and isolated. I told him I had seen all the horrific things he had typed to his "friends" and he turned pale.

Never have I felt so disappointed in him, he shut himself in his room and won't speak to me.

I'm at a loss.

I do not know what to do, or how my son has deviated this far from the Path I set him on, to follow our Lord. The images, and chat messages I have seen make me feel sick. My son likes to view images of animals having sex, and roleplay as one as well! It's appalling!

I googled a forum, hoping to find some help.

Please, if anyone knows how I can help my son recover from these sins it would be greatly appreciated.

Greetings Brother Dave,
This is the best advice I can give you.
Walk in Love with your son NO matter what and begin to say things around him when ever you see him such as you are blessed and highly favored of the Lord. You got to love him and forgive him.
Scripture tells us in Mark 11:25 When we stand praying if we have any Aught against any "FORGIVE" so your father which is in Heaven may forgive you your trespasses.

That is a must - Faith takes love and forgiveness to work. UN-forgiveness hinders your prayers.

Ok here we go Brother Dave.............
You and your wife should go to the Father in Prayer and roll this care over onto Him. Trust it to Him and He will begin to cause your thoughts to line up with His will and then your thoughts will be established and succeed.
Now then right then and there you and your wife make up your mind that you will walk by faith in this and trust His word as final authority and not what you see or hear and this includes coming from your son.

Then take a meal (comunion) over this with the Father as you give it to Him and spend some time just worshiping Him and Loving Him.

Now then here is where you and your wife must work as a team or as one in this.
Take your bibles and find every single promise of God over your children (son) (family)
Write them out and prepare this as a written copy of your request and prayer with His word for your son.
Now then take this paper and take comunion with the Father again presenting this to Him WITH HIS WORD.
This is a COVENANT RIGHT of yours and He will back it by all the honor of His name. Settle it right there with Him that His word is final authority in this.

Now comes the fight of Good faith...........no matter what you see or hear or feel - do not speak against what you have taken to God as your covenant right with Him and your family. Keep His word in your mouth and eyes on this.

Take a stand against the enemy the devil...........satan you are a liar and the father of lies - that boy is not yours for he belongs to us. I dont care if you are leading him hand by hand - this boy does not belong to you for he is Our son and since he belongs to us he belonghs to God now in the name of Jesus Take Your Hands Off of that boy for he is ours....... dont give in or give up.

Keep walking in Love and forgiveness. Keep Gods word alive in this and see in the spirit this done. dont wish for it or even just simply hope - Takie God at His word and Know.........if the knowing isnot strong enough then get in Gods word and stay there till it is............You got to see this done.....

His word is full of scriptures teaching us all about this.
If you truly want to see your son delivered and free - then - you are going to have to include God and Gods ways of doing things.
Will be praying
God Bless
Your Brother in Christ
Jim