If Your Pastor Did Not Celebrate Roe Being Overturned, It Is Time To Find A New Church - July 1, 2022

[Br. Bear]

That i do not agree with . God loves unconditionally. Whether a person loves God or not is beside the point. Otherwise the death on the cross was for nothing. Jesus did not die only for the faithful, but for all of mankind.

while we were yet sinners, Brother

 

[Bill]

while we were yet sinners, Brother

Has becoming a Christian stopped us from being sinners. Maybe a few. But i know i still fail God's desires.

The moment on the Cross gave us a clean slate. But we still need to seek forgiveness for back sliding. Otherwise, if you think all your sins are forgiven , just because you claim Jesus as Lord. Then you will think i can do whatever i want , and its ok because im a Christian.

 

[Bill]

No way. lol

John 15:10 If you obey my commandments, you will remain in my love, just as I have obeyed my Father's commandments and remain in his love.

John 14:21 The person who has my commandments and obeys them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and will reveal myself to him."

John 14:23 Jesus replied, "Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.

Proverbs 8:17 I love those who love me,

1 Samuel 2:30 "Therefore the LORD, the God of Israel, declares: 'I promised that members of your family would minister before me forever.'But now the LORD declares: 'Far be it from me! Those who honor me I will honor, but those who despise me will be disdained.

Psalm 91:14 "Because he loves me," says the LORD, "I will rescue him; I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name.

Romans 8:28 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.

Psalm 145:20 The LORD watches over all who love him, but all the wicked he will destroy.



Jesus died for all and we must go through him to get to the Father, but many refuse.

That is true that Jesus died for all and we must go through him to get to the father but many refuse.

You will think this is a little bit crazy but one time the Lord allowed me to see a man who was standing before the Lord and the Lord was welcoming him into heaven but he refused to go.

Why he refused to go I have no idea maybe Pride but I never seen or even heard of anything like it before.

One I speak about God loving unconditionally I'm not talking about his judgment on man or angels. I'm talking about the simple nature of God. Basically what is God, love.

Even in destroying the wicked it is through his love that he does that

God cannot do anything except through his love

God's love is beyond our understanding

 

[God's Truth]

That is true that Jesus died for all and we must go through him to get to the father but many refuse.

You will think this is a little bit crazy but one time the Lord allowed me to see a man who was standing before the Lord and the Lord was welcoming him into heaven but he refused to go.

Why he refused to go I have no idea maybe Pride but I never seen or even heard of anything like it before.
One I speak about God loving unconditionally I'm not talking about his judgment on man or angels. I'm talking about the simple nature of God. Basically what is God, love.

Even in destroying the wicked it is through his love that he does that

God cannot do anything except through his love

God's love is beyond our understanding

I gave you scriptures that PLAINLY say who God loves and who He disdains, but you refuse to believe it?

God says CLEARLY that He loves those who love Him by OBEYING HIM.

We have to believe God and not what some pastor teaches.

 

[Bill]

I gave you scriptures that PLAINLY say who God loves and who He disdains, but you refuse to believe it?

God says CLEARLY that He loves those who love Him by OBEYING HIM.

We have to believe God and not what some pastor teaches.

What i stated is all scripture

 

[God's Truth]

What i stated is all scripture

Show it again.

John 15:10 If you obey my commandments, you will remain in my love, just as I have obeyed my Father's commandments and remain in his love.

John 14:21 The person who has my commandments and obeys them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and will reveal myself to him."

John 14:23 Jesus replied, "Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.

Proverbs 8:17 I love those who love me,

1 Samuel 2:30 "Therefore the LORD, the God of Israel, declares: 'I promised that members of your family would minister before me forever.'But now the LORD declares: 'Far be it from me! Those who honor me I will honor, but those who despise me will be disdained.

Psalm 91:14 "Because he loves me," says the LORD, "I will rescue him; I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name.

Romans 8:28 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.

Psalm 145:20 The LORD watches over all who love him, but all the wicked he will destroy.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

If you look to the Bible for any anti abortion scripture, you won't find any.

Yes I can. "You shall not let any of your descendants pass through the fire to Molech," Lev. 18:21. Descendants, all stages of life development included, from fetus to infant to toddler and beyond. Today just because the method of "fire" is changed into brine, forceps or super vacuum machine doesn't change the nature

 

[Bill]

Yes I can. "You shall not let any of your descendants pass through the fire to Molech," Lev. 18:21. Descendants, all stages of life development included, from fetus to infant to toddler and beyond. Today just because the method of "fire" is changed into brine, forceps or super vacuum machine doesn't change the nature

For that passage alone its a bit of a stretch to grasp how it relates to the unborn.

At least for myself , the knowledge that Jesus valued the idea of going through the process of growth in Mary's womb to be born was more important than decending from heaven , like he will in His second coming, is significant.

It tells me that God values the birth process enough to send His Son in the same manner he has developed for us to arrive.

And if this is something God values, who are we to consider it worthless.

 

[Bill]

while we were yet sinners, Brother

We were sinners before accepting Jesus, and we strive to be holy as God's children . Yet we are not perfect. And God still loves us.

If he did not love us why would He draw us to Him

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

For that passage alone its a bit of a stretch to grasp how it relates to the unborn.

Fair enough, Jer. 1:5 - “before I formed you in the womb I knew you.” An unborn descendant is still a descendant, made in God’s image, manifested by the ultrasound, and shall not be sacrificed at the altar of a baby killing mill.

 

[Bill]

Fair enough, Jer. 1:5 - “before I formed you in the womb I knew you.” An unborn descendant is still a descendant, made in God’s image, manifested by the ultrasound, and shall not be sacrificed at the altar of a baby killing mill.

I agree with the passage I was just saying that I think that the rest of my comment before was good enough for me anyways

 

[Bob Carabbio]

If Your Pastor Did Not Celebrate Roe Being Overturned, It Is Time To Find A New Church

by Pastor Andrew Isker On Friday, June 24th, an epochal change took place in American history: the United States Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade. If you are a churchgoing evangelical Christian who somehow had not heard about that before going to church Sunday, June 26th, a substantial...

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I agree. No, slowly leaving over some time to see if there is change. Leave immediately.
Any "pastor or priest" who is too scared to follow all of God is no church of God.

The ONLY THING Roe v Wade established was "Abortion as a Constitutional RIGHT".

Overturning essentially means that the official position du jour of the SCOTUS is that what WAS a "Right", isn't a "Right"any more.

It's a GOOD thing that officially ONE form of MURDER isn't a "Constitutional RIGHT" any more.

But essentially the SCOTUS only said: "we're no longer part of the argument - You States can keep on MURDERING babies if you want to" - now it's YOUR problem.

And some of them will - after all, there$ money to be made!!!

Like in the "good 'ol days" in Massachusetts, girls would "visit friends" in Connecticut for a day or two - problem solved.

 

[joestue]

You will think this is a little bit crazy but one time the Lord allowed me to see a man who was standing before the Lord and the Lord was welcoming him into heaven but he refused to go.

I can believe that.

there are some hard things to understand about the various verses and many billions of hours have been wasted arguing about it..

but let me give you my mom's reaction to my statement "hell and outerdarkness are not the same place"

and my mom got excited and said "yes, outer darkness is for the disenfranchised christians"
to give you some more context, my mom's point of view is "if you're going to God because you're afraid of hell, he doesn't want you"

 

[MedicBravo]

The ONLY THING Roe v Wade established was "Abortion as a Constitutional RIGHT".

Overturning essentially means that the official position du jour of the SCOTUS is that what WAS a "Right", isn't a "Right"any more.

It's a GOOD thing that officially ONE form of MURDER isn't a "Constitutional RIGHT" any more.

But essentially the SCOTUS only said: "we're no longer part of the argument - You States can keep on MURDERING babies if you want to" - now it's YOUR problem.

And some of them will - after all, there$ money to be made!!!

Like in the "good 'ol days" in Massachusetts, girls would "visit friends" in Connecticut for a day or two - problem solved.

The Constitution doesn't grand a right to murder someone else and any attempt at amending it should be nullified by default. Roe shouldn't have been a thing in the first place but it clearly divides the God centered, moral, and ethical vs the Satanic, immoral, and unethical.

 

[Bill]

I can believe that.

there are some hard things to understand about the various verses and many billions of hours have been wasted arguing about it..

but let me give you my mom's reaction to my statement "hell and outerdarkness are not the same place"

and my mom got excited and said "yes, outer darkness is for the disenfranchised christians"
to give you some more context, my mom's point of view is "if you're going to God because you're afraid of hell, he doesn't want you"

I can agree with that , as the most important thing you must have to enter heaven is Love

 

[Bob Carabbio]

The Constitution doesn't grand a right to murder someone else

Except, of course, for many years they ruled that it DID (as long as you murdered them before the third trimester).

Roe shouldn't have been a thing in the first place but it clearly divides the God centered, moral, and ethical vs the Satanic, immoral, and unethical.

No argument there.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

I can agree with that , as the most important thing you must have to enter heaven is Love

Sorry, but the ONE THING you must have to enter heaven is to be PERFECT in Jesus by FAITH in His SIN OFFERING on Calvary. al the "Love" in the world wont help you.

 

[joestue]

Sorry, but the ONE THING you must have to enter heaven is to be PERFECT in Jesus by FAITH in His SIN OFFERING on Calvary. al the "Love" in the world wont help you.

Read 1 John 4.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Read 1 John 4.

Translation: "I don't believe you". you're WRONG, and naturally I'm RIGHT!!!

Oh Well.

 

[joestue]

Translation: "I don't believe you". you're WRONG, and naturally I'm RIGHT!!!

Oh Well.

You have a better rebuttal to a whole chapter of the Bible?

People neglect the gospel of John because their blind faith in Paul's gospel feels so much easier.