Iraquis for Jesus

[Rhema]

Jesus operated from a "slave of Roman Empire position" from a poor carpenter household, Brother.

So what happened to all that Gold Frankincense and Myrrh? (Maybe Joseph stole it, eh?)

You think Jesus' family was poor?

Guess how expensive honey is to eat (back then) and check the cost of raiment from camel's hair - even today.

And John was clothed with camel's hair, and with a girdle of a skin about his loins; and he did eat akris and wild honey;​

(Mark 1:6)

The Jesus Movement was so wealthy that they had a treasurer. And were financed indirectly by King Herod Antipas.

And Joanna the wife of Chuza Herod's steward, and Susanna, and many others, which ministered unto him of their substance.​

(Luke 8:3 KJV)

 

[Johanabrahams]

So what happened to all that Gold Frankincense and Myrrh?

So they build a big house with it and hired carpenters? And then they forgot to buy themselves a horse carriage to go to Jerusalem and walked? So foolish. Don't you think?

You think Jesus' family was poor?

Nope. I heard from God they were poor. So I know they were poor. But you "think" they were wealthy. But you didn't give any evidence to that?

Guess how expensive honey is to eat (back then) and check the cost of raiment from camel's hair - even today.

And John was clothed with camel's hair, and with a girdle of a skin about his loins; and he did eat akris and wild honey;(Mark 1:6)

So John was also wealthy? interesting. Can you tell us more about his wealth? And why he ate from the "wild" and not from and expensive Inn?

The Jesus Movement was so wealthy that they had a treasurer. And were financed indirectly by King Herod Antipas.

And Joanna the wife of Chuza Herod's steward, and Susanna, and many others, which ministered unto him of their substance.(Luke 8:3 KJV)

So Jesus was a wealthy man and gave nobody from his wealth? Very stingy don't you think? And he acted poor in walking everywhere while he could have traveled by horse carriage. And of course he lied about not having a "place for his head". And of course Peter lied. Because He was actually also wealthy?

Acts 3:
1 Now Peter and John went up together into the temple at the hour of prayer, being the ninth hour.
2 And a certain man lame from his mother’s womb was carried, whom they laid daily at the gate of the temple which is called Beautiful, to ask alms of them that entered into the temple;
3 Who seeing Peter and John about to go into the temple asked an alms.
4 And Peter, fastening his eyes upon him with John, said, Look on us.
5 And he gave heed unto them, expecting to receive something of them.
6 Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.
7 And he took him by the right hand, and lifted him up: and immediately his feet and ankle bones received strength.
8 And he leaping up stood, and walked, and entered with them into the temple, walking, and leaping, and praising God.

And what is worse. Our "Abba Father/Daddy, Jehovah" is telling us to be "content" with only food and raiment when He Himself could not be? Such "hypocrisy". So we will have to assume that while on earth He fell into the "snare" of the "temptations" money could buy? What could that be? Maybe starting at women? And wine. We knew He enjoyed His wine?

So I assume you are also wealthy and enjoying what your "god mammon" can buy for you?

1 Tim. 6:
6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.
7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.
8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.
9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and intomany foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.
10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.

 

[Johanabrahams]

Yeah, right. It worked so well that Paul had to take up a special collection to help the church in Jerusalem that went bankrupt from their misplaced religious enthusiasm.

They never went bankrupt but was honored by all. And God send all His Kids there to be part of that "Blessed Family Life". Where all the Brothers shared.

But now I go unto Jerusalem to minister unto the saints. For it hath pleased them of Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor saints which are at Jerusalem.

And what was the reason He gave, Brother? Why did you leave it out?

Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye. Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come. And when I come, whomsoever ye shall approve by your letters, them will I send to bring your liberality unto Jerusalem.(1 Corinthians 16:1-3 KJV)

And the reason, Brother? Why do you leave it out?

(Or do you just think Paul was trying to buy influence.)

Seems you should read again and give us the reason Paul gave there. Seems your "blindness" can not see it and we have to rub your nose in it now?

Harsh words, "denying the faith, worse than an infidel." for those who supposedly are to share all wealth communally.

Yep. Harsh Words. For the "stingy wealthy" who enjoy their money and miss the Holy Spirit of Joy in the Brotherhood, Brother. Seems you are "pushed out on the sideline"? Like all kids do with those who are too stingy to share and say "God blessed them with money". While their Blessing is actually the Greatest Reality of their Brothers and their Father. In Family Life where all Fathers gives His Kids equal money. And those taking more are Disciplined by Him.

So let me "rub your nose in it", Brother. Because that might be the only way you meet with these very important Words of "earnest care" which is for the sake of "equality". Nothing else.

2 Cor. 8:
14 But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality:
15 As it is written, He that had gathered much had nothing over; and he that had gathered little had no lack.

Thanks for your post, Brother. It gave me the Huge opportunity to "rub everyone's nose in Love". To end their selfishness. Harsh Words, Brother? All who are wealthy and didn't enter Equality to get rid of the "wealthy" are a "woe".


Luke 6: 24 But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation.

So can you pls. send us a pic of your house and car, Brother? Or is the disgrace of your wealth to big?

 

[Garee]

So what happened to all that Gold Frankincense and Myrrh? (Maybe Joseph stole it, eh?)

You think Jesus' family was poor?

Guess how expensive honey is to eat (back then) and check the cost of raiment from camel's hair - even today.

And John was clothed with camel's hair, and with a girdle of a skin about his loins; and he did eat akris and wild honey;​

(Mark 1:6)

The Jesus Movement was so wealthy that they had a treasurer. And were financed indirectly by King Herod Antipas.

And Joanna the wife of Chuza Herod's steward, and Susanna, and many others, which ministered unto him of their substance.​

(Luke 8:3 KJV)

Why is Gold Frankincense and Myrrh used as metaphors in parables which without Christ the husband spoke not,

What does gold represent ?

What does honey represent. ?

What does Camel hair signify other than the non-redeemed unclean ?

Leviticus 11:4 Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

Mark 10:25 It is easier for a camel (unbeliever) to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

Jesu the Son of man the most misunderstood man that ever walked on water. The apostles and his own family thought he went off the deep end .
Christ used an Ass as His apostle in the same way to represent an unbeliever.

God is not served by a dying creation. He has no needs but satisfies all of His own ."Let there be" and "it was God alone good" (law of faith)

Exodus 13:13 And every firstling of an ass thou shalt redeem with a lamb; and if thou wilt not redeem it, then thou shalt break his neck: and all the firstborn of man among thy children shalt thou redeem.

Exodus 34:20But the firstling of an ass thou shalt redeem with a lamb: and if thou redeem him not, then shalt thou break his neck. All the firstborn of thy sons thou shalt redeem. And none shall appear before me empty.

Numbers 22:28 And the Lord opened the mouth of the ass, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times?

 

[zeth4500]

Jesus operated from a "slave of Roman Empire position" from a poor carpenter household

yes he started out as poor, elon musk for instance has lots of money and he COULD use it to do good, but he chooses not to. money can be used in a good way, i could sell my car and give the money to my company and then i wouldnt be able to clock in at work anymore- would it be better if i keep my car and work there, or sell it and give my work the money? the latter is not true

While Jesus clearly show us that the Power of God should assist others and not money.

i dont think ill ever be able to explain to you how one with resources can use the resources to help another without putting themselves in the gutter - if you are in debt it makes sense to sellout of everything you have

a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.

yes, i assume youre average and not rich, if you are rich then it makes sense to spend your excessive wealth on those who are less
i would do the same, while keeping enough for unpredictable expenses
i COULD take huge risks when driving my car, because i know god will cover me. but i SHOULD not test how far gods mercy will go for me, we should not put ourselves into unnecessary harms way just to prove that god has our back, we must try to live peaceful lives, bringing unnecessary stress will only damage the temple that our bodies are

"having nothing of the physical realm"

so how do you type on the internet? if you dont have any way to get online then you cant spread gods word online

but with God all things are possible."

yes all things are possible but its not something difficult to give away your possessions to the poor and needy, however if you gained lots of wealth you can thank god for that. we have free will, and how we use our free will we cannot denote to god only gods guidance, but our physical actions arent directly god, that would be akin to claiming ourselves to be god - we have free will thus not projected robots of god, if so there would be no point in temptations or the devil or anything

The white South Africans assaulted me 38 times in one year when I was with them.

strange, sounds like they were acting very jewish- there are a lot of jewish genes in south africa, the dutch are also mixed into that which also has great jewish genes mixed into them as they were the international tradesmen - they are all greatly challenged by evil spirits tied to their blood, 90% of them cant find a way to go against these demonic entities
what did you do specifically to the "white south africans" for them to assault you? great to hear you persisted persecution

James 1:12 Blessed is a man who perseveres under trial; for once he has been approved, he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to those who love Him.​

God can not give the Holy Spirit of Love to another Father.

hmm, we are to give our wives love, and they are to respect their man. but i guess, we men are the bride to god as we submit and obey gods will and thus we are able to love

But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

oh-oh nice find, i mean to say also that we shouldnt hand out everything god has given us. if my wife gave away all our possessions just to be kind i would go nuclear.

 

[Rhema]

So they build a big house with it and hired carpenters? And then they forgot to buy themselves a horse carriage to go to Jerusalem and walked? So foolish. Don't you think?

I think your answer is foolish because it doesn't address the question and dumps a lot of smirk out as a smokescreen. (Your milk has gone sour.) Why would Jesus, having wealth, waste in such a manner? That you think this way tells me a LOT about you. Imputing evil to anyone with money who doesn't give it to you.

Nope. I heard from God they were poor. So I know they were poor. But you "think" they were wealthy. But you didn't give any evidence to that?

So you "heard from God"... while I provided scripture. It figures that you would listen to the little voices in your head first.

So John was also wealthy? interesting. Can you tell us more about his wealth? And why he ate from the "wild" and not from and expensive Inn?

These are the kinds of questions that come from those who reject study... any study: history, politics, theology. You're not asking to understand. The smirk stinks throughout your post.

Why would people travel from Jerusalem all the way to where John was baptizing in the Jordon? Maybe your little daddy voice could give you a clue about that too. Let me know.

And there went out unto him all the land of Judaea, and they of Jerusalem, and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan, confessing their sins.​

- Mark 1:5 KJV

And why did John tB get the impression that people thought he was mighty anyway? Was he wrong?

And preached, saying, There cometh one mightier than I after me,​

- Mark 1:7 KJV

Most Protestant think John tB was a just crazy homeless preacher eating bugs, having no clue that he was a Messiah.

So Jesus was a wealthy man and gave nobody from his wealth?

Straw man. To answer is a waste of time.

For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.​

- 2 Corinthians 8:9 KJV

And of course he lied about not having a "place for his head".

Again, a question that arises from a lack of wisdom. Here, Jesus addresses the innate desire of a human to belong. Jesus had no place where he belonged. He was not of the Temple Priests, he was not of the Pharisees, Sadducees, or Essenes. He was not of the scribes. He wasn't even Jewish within the context of the various divisions of Judaism at the time. If anything, he is closest to the Karaite Jews of today.

And of course Peter lied. Because He was actually also wealthy?

More smirk nonsense. You should look in the mirror and rebuke yourself.

And what is worse. Our "Abba Father/Daddy, Jehovah" is telling us to be "content" with only food and raiment when He Himself could not be? Such "hypocrisy".

No. Paul is telling you that. But one would truly need discernment to see the big picture.

So I assume you are also wealthy and enjoying what your "god mammon" can buy for you?

Well you're certainly making an ass of yourself, so keep up the good work. I KNOW you have no idea what the word mammon means. Care to prove me wrong?

They never went bankrupt but was honored by all.

More wind out of the wrong end. Your claim, so prove it.

By the time of Acts chapter fifteen, James, the brother of Jesus, took over the church and sandbagged Peter. But... guess your little daddy voice didn't tell you about that either.

So what did He tell you about this situation?

And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present. And when he had saluted them, he declared particularly what things God had wrought among the Gentiles by his ministry. And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law:​

- Acts 21:18-20 KJV

Don't worry. Consider the question Rhetorical, as I don't think you're qualified to answer.

Seems you should read again and give us the reason Paul gave there. Seems your "blindness" can not see it and we have to rub your nose in it now?

Communism always leads to bankruptcy. And the irrational religious enthusiasm in Jerusalem did the same to those very early believers. You think to rub my nose in it? What a hateful, delusional person you are.

(Oh, I forgot, ... you're God and Jesus' Mommy.)

but by equality, at the present time your abundance—for their want, that also their abundance may be for your want, that there may be equality,​

- 2 Corinthians 8:14 YLT

THEIR WANT. Like I said, they went bankrupt. How do you think they got that way, having want? All those 3,000 who joined on the Day of Pentecost were fired from their job? I am truly sorry that you're unable to think this through. The economic system engendered by the initial irrational religious enthusiasm in Acts 2 fell apart. Paul tried to fix this.

For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies. Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.​

- 2 Thessalonians 3:10-12 KJV

So what work do you do? What job do you have? Enough so that you can eat of your own bread? Because of all I've read from what you've published, your behaviour seems to nicely fit that of "busybody." You know, liking to "rub people's nose in it."

Yep. Harsh Words. For the "stingy wealthy"

And yet those words were not directed to the "stingy wealthy" and anyone who makes that delusional conclusion has serious cognitive impairment. It was directed to the one who received welfare money from the church. Try reading it again.

But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.​

- 1 Timothy 5:8 KJV

But I understand. You knowing within yourself to be guilty of this sin MUST protest and find fault in others, so that you can place yourself on a pedestal. It's all too common with your type of NPD. Where your words need to declare that you are better than all others. (Why else do you rebuke so quickly and with such ease?)

So let me "rub your nose in it", Brother. Because that might be the only way you meet with these very important Words of "earnest care" which is for the sake of "equality". Nothing else.

2 Cor. 8:

So convenient, isn't it, that you omitted this verse:

For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.​

- 2 Corinthians 8:9 KJV

Jesus was rich. Paul himself said so. He came from a wealthy royal family. But your little daddy voice told you differently.

It gave me the Huge opportunity to "rub everyone's nose in Love". To end their selfishness. Harsh Words, Brother? All who are wealthy and didn't enter Equality to get rid of the "wealthy" are a "woe".

More delusional than ever to think that's what you're doing. You entire MO is just another NPD trying to save his own ego - at the expense of others.

And, no, I am not your Brother. I have no part with those whose words and deeds are described by scripture as that of an infidel.

And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?​

- 2 Corinthians 6:15 KJV

So can you pls. send us a pic of your house and car, Brother? Or is the disgrace of your wealth to big?

Keep it up. You merely prove that you are none of His, being clueless without measure.

Ex Cathedra,
Rhema

 

[Rhema]

yes he started out as poor,

For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.​

- 2 Corinthians 8:9 KJV

Jesus was gracious not to rub his wealth into the nose of others. He did not use his wealth toward living his own life, but spent that life (and his wealth) preaching the true Gospel.

elon musk for instance has lots of money and he COULD use it to do good, but he chooses not to. money can be used in a good way, i could sell my car and give the money to my company and then i wouldnt be able to clock in at work anymore- would it be better if i keep my car and work there, or sell it and give my work the money? the latter is not true

Elon Musk MADE a lot of money. Have you ever tracked the source of his wealth? He worked for it. And in doing so provided opportunities for innumerable others to make money. And I can confidently assure you that Nobody yet has figured out his end game strategy. (Well besides me of course, but I read a LOT.) Isn't a worker worth his hire?

for the labourer is worthy of his hire.​

- Luke 10:7 KJV

But please realize, this is not to validate his personal life choices in any way, shape, or form.

oh-oh nice find, i mean to say also that we shouldnt hand out everything god has given us.

Absolutely. (And thank you.) I shall risk repeating myself by also bringing this verse to your attention.

For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies. Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.​

- 2 Thessalonians 3:10-12 KJV

Consider... the majority of Christian churches teach that you should tithe, giving 10% of what you make to God (whether it be to support your church, or buy that Bible study book, or hand out money to those who ask in need). That means you can keep 90% for yourself, you know. Did God ever overturn that policy?

So you should allow NO ONE to try and heap guilt on whatever wealth you might own, bringing you down into a debasing poverty as they have done in their own life.

Many years ago, I came across the book "The Prayer of Jabez" and railed to the Father about this, only to be corrected.

And Jabez was more honourable than his brethren: and his mother called his name Jabez, saying, Because I bare him with sorrow. And Jabez called on the God of Israel, saying, Oh that thou wouldest bless me indeed, and enlarge my coast, and that thine hand might be with me, and that thou wouldest keep me from evil, that it may not grieve me! And God granted him that which he requested.​

- 1 Chronicles 4:9-10 KJV

So why did God grant this "evil money grubbing Jew" what he requested - that he'd be blessed with wealth? Well the text doesn't say. Yet it seems obvious that one cannot bless others if one has nothing.

I would strongly caution that one not confuse money with mammon. These are not the same thing. And while the passage, "Ye cannot serve God and mammon" is quite often repeated, the verse that commands us to be faithful with mammon is completely forgotten.

If therefore ye have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches?​

- Luke 16:11 KJV

How can one be faithful with that which one doesn't have?

Unfortunately, I don't have the citation readily at hand, but I did a deep dive on this word about five years ago and learned that mammon is an Aramaic word that describes the use of money to gain influence with others - in short, it means a Bribe. Trading favors for favors.

i dont think ill ever be able to explain to you how one with resources can use the resources to help another without putting themselves in the gutter - if you are in debt it makes sense to sellout of everything you have

Well said.

The trick, of course, is to use such resources to actually help the other person, without creating any sense of obligation or fealty towards oneself. That's what a bribe does, and that's what "Mr. Tata" did if one reads his posts closely.

so how do you type on the internet? if you dont have any way to get online then you cant spread gods word online

that would be akin to claiming ourselves to be god

Perhaps you've missed the posts where @Johanabrahams already has said he is God.

Here, he clearly states that he is the wife of God and Jesus' mommy. (I fast forwarded to the appropriate section, and it's only about two minutes or so in length.)

Make of it what you will....

Great chat,
Rhema

 

[Johanabrahams]

Perhaps you've missed the posts where @Johanabrahams already has said he is God.

Perhaps you missed the post where one of our "mods" is now also God, Brother. Just the Son. Your Brother @Christ4Ever. While I am a Mom and Jehovah is Dad. And just as in any other life Jehovah created all these Persons are exactly the same "species". That is the desire of any father and also The Father. Which is Establishing now the New Jerusalem on earth, Brother. No one is a lesser being. And here is a nice song for you to see that other also have this Revelation and is ministering on it, Brother. And another one too. From another minister of God's Word of course. Who has his own way to say it. We are all uniquely saying the same thing, Brother.

So what you are complaining about there in that video and all others there too is now right here next to you in this forum, Brother. Oops!

So try to tell us now why God's Family are not God as He is God, Brother. While all other life works like that. Only for Himself He changed to be "selfishly" God only?

So let us tell everyone in the world about your "complaint" of our Daddy, Jehovah, having His own Family, Brother. In Linkedin and in Twitter.

 

[Rhema]

Perhaps you missed the post where one of our "mods" is now also God, Brother. Just the Son. Your Brother @Christ4Ever.

I'll let Nick speak for himself.

 

[Johanabrahams]

I think your answer is foolish because it doesn't address the question and dumps a lot of smirk out as a smokescreen.

So did i answer or did I not answer, Brother. Seems i answered but you didn't get the Revelation. Well that is not my mistake, but your lack of Relationship with Daddy, Jehovah, Brother.

Why would Jesus, having wealth, waste in such a manner?

It was not Jesus who received all that "gold" you told us about by Josef, Brother.

That you think this way tells me a LOT about you. Imputing evil to anyone with money who doesn't give it to you.

I didn't say it is a "woe" if you are wealthy, Brother. Daddy, Jehovah, spoke through His Temple which was Paul.

Luke 6: 24 But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation.

So you "heard from God"... while I provided scripture.

Sure. They both speak the same thing, Brother. But you "think" yours out while you can only get it in Revelation and not from your "mind god".

It figures that you would listen to the little voices in your head first.

God does not speak in the head, Brother. He speaks in the "Belly". Or Spirit. There where you "feel" your "feelings". it is not in your head.

These are the kinds of questions that come from those who reject study.

Yep. God's Word comes in Revelation to the "Belly" and not into your mind, Brother. That is you being "god" yourself on God's Words and totally missing.

The smirk stinks throughout your post.

You missed, Brother. It is not "smirking" God is doing but "Laughing" and that is followed up by His Wrath. Which you are now experiencing, Brother.

Psalm 2:
4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.

Why would people travel from Jerusalem all the way to where John was baptizing in the Jordon? Maybe your little daddy voice could give you a clue about that too. Let me know.

Seems your mind god did not tell you, Brother?

And why did John tB get the impression that people thought he was mighty anyway? Was he wrong?

He was mighty only in being the Elijah of the Son, Brother. Preparing the Way for the Word of Jesus's coming.

Most Protestant think John tB was a just crazy homeless preacher eating bugs, having no clue that he was a Messiah.

Sure. They "think" like you do.

Straw man. To answer is a waste of time.

Don't answer for me only Brother. But for all reading here. Not doing it is so foolish, Brother.

Again, a question that arises from a lack of wisdom. Here, Jesus addresses the innate desire of a human to belong.

So Jesus was lying. He did have a house of his own?

More smirk nonsense. You should look in the mirror and rebuke yourself.

Nope. More "Laughing", Brother.

Proverbs 3: 34 Surely he scorneth the scorners: but he giveth grace unto the lowly.

No. Paul is telling you that. But one would truly need discernment to see the big picture.

So Paul was lying, Brother? You are actually the one who knows it all?

I KNOW you have no idea what the word mammon means.

So pls tell us Brother. Not just for me to know but all reading here too.

More wind out of the wrong end. Your claim, so prove it.

Nope you said the first community went bankrupt because they shared their possessions to live in Equality as all Kids of any father and The Father did. So you have to prove what you said. I said just what Scripture said. They were "honored" by all and God sent all of His Kids to them to be part of what they were doing. It is clear in Scripture. You added your opinion of bankruptcy to Scripture and are suffering the consequences of adding to Scripture. As this whole post of yours and others on this topic shows.

Acts 2:
44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

By the time of Acts chapter fifteen, James, the brother of Jesus, took over the church and sandbagged Peter. But... guess your little daddy voice didn't tell you about that either.

Sure. That is new to me. Give us some Scripture on it. James robbing God of His Church and "sandbagged Peter" is a very evil thing he did. Because the Church belongs to God and nobody else. And Peter was his Brother he started to hate.

Communism always leads to bankruptcy.

So how was Acts 2 "communism", Brother?

And the irrational religious enthusiasm in Jerusalem did the same to those very early believers.

First you said Acts 2 was communism and not "religious enthusiasm" again?

You think to rub my nose in it? What a hateful, delusional person you are.

So my assisting you Powerfully to see your folly is hatred, Brother?

(Oh, I forgot, ... you're God and Jesus' Mommy.)

Amen. That you should clearly see now as Daddy Jehovah is again "rubbing your nose in it".

THEIR WANT. Like I said, they went bankrupt.

How is "want" meaning bankruptcy and not just the result of them being slaves to the Roman Empire, Brother? While the Greek were not and much more wealthy than them?

And yet those words were not directed to the "stingy wealthy"

So God said it is a blessing if someone is wealthy? While His Brothers are poor? Where they are in one Household with One Father?

For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor,

So Jehovah, in Jesus, became poor because of his own communism and suffer the result of being into His own called for communism? So foolish of Him, don't you think? Or why didn't He make some more wine out of water and sold them to make huge profit? Seems He was again so very foolish?

And, no, I am not your Brother. I have no part with those whose words and deeds are described by scripture as that of an infidel.

So you lied in the beginning and were just acting, Brother? And everyone else you differ from in here and elsewhere are also not your Brothers?

Keep it up. You merely prove that you are none of His, being clueless without measure.

That is belittling to try and exalt yourself by it, Brother. It is from Lucifer. Or not?

Ex Cathedra,

Interesting. And what are you trying to say with that, Brother?

 

[Johanabrahams]

I'll let Nick speak for himself.

He didn't speak there?

 

[Rhema]

So can you pls. send us a pic of your house and car, Brother? Or is the disgrace of your wealth to big?

Why do you try to shame people? Your need to shame others is riddled throughout all of your posts.

But I know what you're doing, because I know who you are.

 

[Johanabrahams]

Why do you try to shame people? Your need to shame others is riddled throughout all of your posts.

They are all Rebukes from the Living God. Which is Love in Action. Thus they are not your "tries" where you don't succeed. They are for real, Brother. Just as this one here is also. When you operate in hatred it is clearly seen in the Presence of a Rebuke. And it is Daddy's Loving Discipline to you to enter His Love and get out of human hatred, Brother. Which clearly shows here in this comment of yours. And Dad did say it. But you never took heed.

Mat. 7:
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

And now all see your "hypocrisy". Where you act "Love" of the Holy Spirit but with an evil spirit in "trying to shame me". Which will always backfire, Brother.

But I know what you're doing, because I know who you are.

Then do a Rebuking, Brother. That is Wisdom by which you will enter the Second coming of Jesus in ruling in Wisdom. Because the laws of humans are not it. Wisdom is the Anointing which Solomon ruled in. Not laws given to humans by which they rule, Brother. And in Jesus Dad's Wisdom is also given to us to enter the Power of "Being Jesus" in His Second coming.

 

[Rhema]

They are all Rebukes from the Living God.

No. You shame people to make yourself feel superior. I've seen it before, and no doubt I'll see it again.

Then do a Rebuking, Brother.

I'm not your Lord. Yet I know enough that whatever rebuke the Lord may bring to you through my words you will reject in order to keep the false narrative of your superior ego intact.

Those who speak as you do are totally oblivious to the log in their own eye.

For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies. Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread​

- 2 Thessalonians 3:10-12 KJV

So what work do you do? What job do you have? Enough so that you can eat of your own bread?

An honest person would reply truthfully,
Rhema

 

[Johanabrahams]

No. You shame people to make yourself feel superior.

Interesting, Brother. So how did i do it here with you? And how did Jesus did it with the Pharisees? [Mat. 23]. And how did Paul do it with Peter? [Gal. 2]

I've seen it before, and no doubt I'll see it again.

I agree. Just tell us about me and Jesus and Paul being into an evil spirit while you with your way is the Love of God.

I'm not your Lord.

So you can not do rebuking and have to stay with "belittling", Brother?

Yet I know enough that whatever rebuke the Lord may bring to you through my words you will reject in order to keep the false narrative of your superior ego intact.

Show us Brother.

Those who speak as you do are totally oblivious to the log in their own eye.

Then show us, Brother.

So what work do you do? What job do you have? Enough so that you can eat of your own bread?

I am paying these Xhosa Kids of mine who took me in to work for them 56 hours a week for free. Where I am working In a business me and God created for them. In the past 14 years I worked 10 hours a day every day of the week and every day of the year without having been one day away in being ill or tired in needing a "day of rest". But now in being an "old man of 64" i scaled it down to 56 hours a day to have more time for myself on the internet and with our youngest Kid, Bano, who needs me for her "homework".

An honest person would reply truthfully,

Sure. As my Live is in the Light in Godly Transparency were I am Living it is no big deal for me to have my Live in the Light of God in Transparency on the internet too. And now it is your turn to bring yours out of the darkness and into the Light too, Brother.


John 3: 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

Seems your attempt to "Rebuke" me which Lucifer gave you to try "backfired" again, Brother? A Real Rebuke has Fire Power because it is given to you by the God of Fire, Brother. Don't ask Lucifer for them.

 

[zeth4500]

It figures that you would listen to the little voices in your head first.

what we hear must always align with scripture indeed, not that i have any idea what tangent you 2 are on at this point

So Jesus was a wealthy man and gave nobody from his wealth?

i also dont believe jesus was wealthy in any way, there was one part of the bible where he was to feed hundreds of followers or even more, and he didnt have any money for them, but the followers themselves brought up the money to buy a small amount of bread and something else, which jesus made to satisfy everyone

For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.- 2 Corinthians 8:9 KJV

"Throughout Christian theology, Jesus is considered to be as rich as God Himself, being the second person of the Trinity. He possesses all power, authority, sovereignty, glory, honor, and majesty. However, during His time on Earth, Jesus willingly gave up His eternal riches and most of the privileges of His deity."
ive checked translations and they all acknowledge rich but they dont specify this as materialistic wealth - which, in gods eyes isnt really rich anyhow- right?

that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

amen, thats a good one.

You knowing within yourself to be guilty of this sin MUST protest and find fault in others, so that you can place yourself on a pedestal. It's all too common with your type of NPD.

i dont always agree with him but he has never come across as someone with NPD, which btw is a pure form of narcissism although being 6% of the western population, NPDs tend to be very aggressive

He came from a wealthy royal family.

what kinda royalty puts their son to work as carpenter? even in todays society carpenter is super low rank. jesus was fed mainly/solely honey of what i recall as his family didnt have money, back then honey was for the poor people

So can you pls. send us a pic of your house and car, Brother? Or is the disgrace of your wealth to big?

i think you have both had a good amount of dough on your hands, but if you were to battle in whos more rooted in materialism i would place my bet on Rhema - i think you win this exact point.

Or why didn't He make some more wine out of water and sold them to make huge profit? Seems He was again so very foolish?

that would have been very profitable business, maybe the son of god simply didnt realize the huge potential monetary gains? haha

to make yourself feel superior.

thats an assumption until you can prove it

i scaled it down to 56 hours a day

per week right? otherwise you would quite literally be doing gods work because only god can work that many hours a day


i think you 2 should ask yourself if youre truly upset after communicating and realize that being upset is opening a portal for demons to enter and simply stop

 

[Rhema]

"Throughout Christian theology, Jesus is considered to be as rich as God Himself, being the second person of the Trinity.

Context.

You want to theologize everything into oblivion be my guest, but Paul directly said that Jesus was rich, and there were no "spiritualizing" modifiers in that passage. But no, seeking your own ideas you would distort what is written. Hey! That's how they got the Trinity fiction.

There is no end to such nonsense,
Rhema

 

[Rhema]

ive checked translations and they all acknowledge rich

Why don't you learn the dang language like I did? Then you'd know what was actually written.

ive checked translations and they all acknowledge rich but they dont specify this as materialistic wealth

Even the pitiful resource of Strong's Concordance says "wealthy" for the Greek word G4145 plousios.

LINK to the Liddell Scott Lexicon for G4145 πλούσιος plousios

A.wealthy, opulent,​

It just amazes me how you people can just pull this crap out of your butt and not have a clue what you're talking about.

Christianity is doomed,
Rhema

 

[Rhema]

jesus was fed mainly/solely honey of what i recall as his family didnt have money, back then honey was for the poor people

This is just beyond stupid. First, you have the wrong person.

And John was clothed with camel's hair, and with a girdle of a skin about his loins; and he did eat locusts and wild honey;​

- Mark 1:6 KJV

This was about John the Baptist. There is nothing in scripture about Jesus being fed anything.

Second, the phrase "Milk and Honey" was always about having an abundance of wealth.

And I have said, I will bring you up out of the affliction of Egypt unto the land of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, unto a land flowing with milk and honey.​

- Exodus 3:17 KJV

his family didnt have money

So the Magi gave Him, what, a mere pinch of gold dust? A spoonful of Frankincense? Just enough to be symbolic? And they scraped up a bag of Myrrh from the gutter off the streets?

All three are rare and expensive, as was honey.

How you can be content with so much ignorance truly stuns me.

honey was for the poor people

Support your claim, if you hadn't just made it up in your own head. Honey was extremely expensive. (Think it through.)

what kinda royalty puts their son to work as carpenter?

Of for the luv of the inane. What kind of stupid assumption thinks that Jesus was put to work by his family? There is no such passage anywhere that Joseph and Mary put Jesus to work as a carpenter. You need to look at what you believe and stop making things up.

For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.​

- 2 Corinthians 8:9 KJV

Jesus, though he was rich, purposefully chose to identify with the people, his people, who indeed were poor. Jesus himself chose the trade of a tekton, not flaunting his royal family's wealth.

but if you were to battle in whos more rooted in materialism i would place my bet on Rhema -

And you'd lose that bet, dude. Hands down.

NPDs tend to be very aggressive

You don't know squat about NPDs.

Rhema

 

[Johanabrahams]

he was to feed hundreds of followers

It was 5000 men without the women and kids counted. So we can judge them to be around 10 000 at least.

if you were to battle in whos more rooted in materialism i would place my bet on Rhema

Sure. I sold all my possessions as Scripture said those who enters Perfection should do. And then God told me something which is not in Scripture but Manifests after you did it. I had to give my body away for free too. To the poor. This mean I had to work for them for free. To assist them more in their battles to get enough money.

that would have been very profitable business, maybe the son of god simply didnt realize the huge potential monetary gains? haha

He didn't serve Mammon to do his ministry. He had the Anointing of the Holy Spirit by which He did His Work.

per week right? otherwise you would quite literally be doing gods work because only god can work that many hours a day

Yep. My mistake. Only God can fit 56 hours into a day. That time of some battle Israel did as His Child and they got the Word to pray that the sun would stand still.

i think you 2 should ask yourself if youre truly upset after communicating and realize that being upset is opening a portal for demons to enter and simply stop

You think I am "angry" at my Brother @Rhema? For Rebuking Him with his lies? How is a Rebuke done in "anger", Brother?