Is this your church?

[B-A-C]

How many females are pastoring men in your church?

None in my church, but I have seen this in some churches. I can tell you this isn't "just" a Pentecostal thing.

 

[Garee]

None in my church, but I have seen this in some churches. I can tell you this isn't "just" a Pentecostal thing.

I would have to ask the question then if not making sounds without meaning and falling backwards slain in the spirit Then what is the sign men wonder after? Who are they edifying outwardly ?

How do we know it is not of Satan who comes with all false power with lying sign to wonder after not coming to the end of faith the salvation of our new born again spirits. How do we try the spirits according to what law? Has God opened the 7 seven seals and is adding to his witness the Bible .Are there any laws missing by which we could know our father more intimately by faith .Has he not provided all the tools necessary to rightly divide his word so that we can seek His approval ? Do we need more than he has offered?

In that way its been over two thousands years and the last chapter is still Revelation the signified tongue of God .

 

[B-A-C]

I would have to ask the question then if not making sounds without meaning and falling backwards slain in the spirit Then what is the sign men wonder after? Who are they edifying outwardly ?

My reply wasn't in reference to the question "Is this your church".
It was in reply to the previous post "How many females are pastoring men in your church".

 

[JerryfromMass]

None in my church, but I have seen this in some churches. I can tell you this isn't "just" a Pentecostal thing.

I am aware that it is a world-wide thing.

The vast majority of denominational, including non-denominational, churches that ordain female pastors recognize and celebrate two lies: (1) female pastors and (2) same-sex marriages.

 

[Garee]

My reply wasn't in reference to the question "Is this your church".
It was in reply to the previous post "How many females are pastoring men in your church".

The pastoral ministry is two or three as a family , tribe or a nation . . The husband of one wife able to raise children in a hope of godly offspring. being an example to the flock. Singles would be disqualified .One its not the kind of example needed to represent mankind . .There are many different kinds of ministry involving two. they follow after the Father and Son two working as one.

 

[KittyLinda]

Any church with women pastors is a heretical church, like Thyatira. Come to think of of it, Aimee Semple was a Hollywood harlot or starlet, and it's her statement of faith with which you agree.

No, she was not a harlot. Our lord can even forgive that. [Hebrews 11:31] There are 'godly' men in the bible who did horrific things. So think about that, because everyone sinned. Only Jesus is good. Also, I couldn't care less. Never met Aimee Semple, and I have not even read, or heard much about her life.

My church has evolved much, and beyond her times, and we have knowledge of the bible more than what she could have dreamed of in her entire life. I do not know why you have this obsession with individuals, and you also assume things about me as if you knew me, or something. You do no have high regards for women from what I read in your comments. Most people who speak in this tone have abused women badly in their life, and got in troubles for it, or were hurt by a spouse, or someone. So whatever it is, you need to ask God to heal any possible spiritual wounds, and forgive those who hurt you, or you will be in bondage, because that opens doors for the demonic.

And women in my church are usually given duties of an assistant pastor; they deal with counseling for women and kids. That being said, it's possible that they may take a pastor role occasionally, and if you do not like that, then just stay at your church; if you even attend any, because most people with your online attitude want to be the pastor themselves, and do not attend any church at all.

God bless,

 

[KittyLinda]

Yes many of us - especially outside of the U.S.A. - enjoy Bible obedient Pentecostal churches that worship in spirit and truth.
It is best not to engage with cessationists as they are convinced that their churches, although devoid of the gifts of the Holy Spirit, are correct and Biblical.
God is calling people out of the world to believe the full gospel of salvation and to yield unto the truth of the scriptures - to be born new from above by water and the Spirit with the Bible evidence of speaking in tongues.
Christian forum sites are great to share gospel music, testimonials and other friendly material, but Bible Discussion Forums often deteriorate into cesspools of slander and nastiness.
And if you defend the full gospel too much you will get banned.

I do not usually engage with bible discussions for this reason, but I am going to be defending the Holy Spirit, and those who attend at my church, because of people like that who basically want to say that Pentecostals are not true Christians, and they always come with these cultic videos to spread false notion about an entire denomination that comes in different wings. It is not fair at all, and some of them may accidentally commit blasphemy of the Holy Spirit or come close to that, when they reject speaking in tongues, and call it all sort of things.

I can worship in any church. If my area has no foursquare church, then it is more likely that I will be at the closest biblical church nearby. I hate sectarianism.

 

[JerryfromMass]

No, she was not a harlot. Our lord can even forgive that. [Hebrews 11:31] There are 'godly' men in the bible who did horrific things. So think about that, because everyone sinned. Only Jesus is good. Also, I couldn't care less. Never met Aimee Semple, and I have not even read, or heard much about her life.

My church has evolved much, and beyond her times, and we have knowledge of the bible more than what she could have dreamed of in her entire life. I do not know why you have this obsession with individuals, and you also assume things about me as if you knew me, or something. You do no have high regards for women from what I read in your comments. Most people who speak in this tone have abused women badly in their life, and got in troubles for it, or were hurt by a spouse, or someone. So whatever it is, you need to ask God to heal any possible spiritual wounds, and forgive those who hurt you, or you will be in bondage, because that opens doors for the demonic.

And women in my church are usually given duties of an assistant pastor; they deal with counseling for women and kids. That being said, it's possible that they may take a pastor role occasionally, and if you do not like that, then just stay at your church; if you even attend any, because most people with your online attitude want to be the pastor themselves, and do not attend any church at all.

God bless,

It's not that i don't like women pastors, it's that God doesn't want women pastors. God certainly has a role for women in ministry and evangelizing, but Paul makes it clear-as-day for all to read that men are to lead the church, and since Paul was taught by the risen Jesus God the Son, Paul, guided by God the Holy Spirit, had to have written precisely as God taught him. Also, look at who is leading the church at Thyatira: a jezebel, an apostate woman who assumed a role that God specifically and exclusively said is a man's role: teaching preaching and leading the church.

You can try and turn it around and make it about me, I forgive you. But, for me, it's always been about truth, and truth is: women are not to be pastors/preachers/teachers of men. If you reject that truth, you leave yourself wide open to be led by more lies, which could lead you to membership in a Thyatira-like apostate church. Then, like a frog in a pot of cool water, you won't jump out because you like the feeling. But the Satan-led jezebel slowly heats the water and the warmth lulls you to sleep. Before you can jump out, the water is at a feverish boil and your skin is peeling from your flesh. At that point it's too late for you to escape, for the frog is cooked.

 

[Garee]

It's not that i don't like women pastors, it's that God doesn't want women pastors. God certainly has a role for women in ministry and evangelizing, but Paul makes it clear-as-day for all to read that men are to lead the church, and since Paul was taught by the risen Jesus God the Son, Paul, guided by God the Holy Spirit, had to have written precisely as God taught him. Also, look at who is leading the church at Thyatira: a jezebel, an apostate woman who assumed a role that God specifically and exclusively said is a man's role: teaching preaching and leading the church.

You can try and turn it around and make it about me, I forgive you. But, for me, it's always been about truth, and truth is: women are not to be pastors/preachers/teachers of men. If you reject that truth, you leave yourself wide open to be led by more lies, which could lead you to membership in a Thyatira-like apostate church. Then, like a frog in a pot of cool water, you won't jump out because you like the feeling. But the Satan-led jezebel slowly heats the water and the warmth lulls you to sleep. Before you can jump out, the water is at a feverish boil and your skin is peeling from your flesh. At that point it's too late for you to escape, for the frog is cooked.

I would think the church referenced as two by two is led by the pastoral ministry of two or three a family, tribe or nation.

A His and Hers ministry. Christ is the head.

No wife, no children no leadership as a example to the flock therefore the proper ministry not lording it over the understanding of scripture .The abomination of desolation a hierarchy of men .

1 Timothy 3:12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.

No wife (helpmeet. ) no leadership . No Deborah (the Bee) no defeat of the enemy.

God is not served by human hands neither male nor female Jew or Gentile

Judges 4:9 And she said, I will surely go with thee: notwithstanding the journey that thou takest shall not be for thine honour; for the Lord shall sell Sisera into the hand of a woman. And Deborah arose, and went with Barak to Kedesh.

No wife in the Catholic priesthood of government .No example to the flock.

 

[JerryfromMass]

I would think the church referenced as two by two is led by the pastoral ministry of two or three a family, tribe or nation.

A His and Hers ministry. Christ is the head.

No wife, no children no leadership as a example to the flock therefore the proper ministry not lording it over the understanding of scripture .The abomination of desolation a hierarchy of men .

1 Timothy 3:12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.

No wife (helpmeet. ) no leadership . No Deborah (the Bee) no defeat of the enemy.

God is not served by human hands neither male nor female Jew or Gentile

Judges 4:9 And she said, I will surely go with thee: notwithstanding the journey that thou takest shall not be for thine honour; for the Lord shall sell Sisera into the hand of a woman. And Deborah arose, and went with Barak to Kedesh.

No wife in the Catholic priesthood of government .No example to the flock.

You miss the mark on the word of God. Women may teach and minister to other women and teach and minister to children, but may not be teachers and ministers of men in the church.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Unless you people have been to these churches, and have seen this kind of thing first hand, all you're doing is spreading gossip and judging....I do not go to this kind of church, in fact I don't go to any organized church, mostly because of Christians passing judgment on other Christians....Maybe its time to put this hypocricy aside and start walking in love....We can all do with a dose of that.

 

[Garee]

You miss the mark on the word of God. Women may teach and minister to other women and teach and minister to children, but may not be teachers and ministers of men in the church.

When a person applies that idea it would I believe violate the commandment to a call no person on earth infallible, teacher or Rabbi. One is our good teaching Master as Lord in heaven .

We can plant the incorruptible seed and water it with the water of the word but God must do all the work of forming Christ in us . Paul signified as a surrogate mother preached the gospel to Timothy. Paul sufferings as in labor pains in a hope Christ would work in Timothy and later espoused Timothy to Christ as a chaste virgin bride , the church.

Mathew 23:8 EXB “But you must not be called ‘·Teacher [Rabbi],’ because you have only one Teacher, and you are all brothers and sisters together

Teacher used like Father represent two kinds in the Bible I would think the father of lies would try and make it al the same witness as the god of this world he has no defense against sola scriptura as it is written

The reformation came as prophesied in Joel, men and woman prophets from every nation sending them out two by two to declare the word of God (gospel) Just as in the times of Judges with Deborah or Samael .God as the unseen King reigning from heaven

The two fifteen foot high walls came down, one that separated the ceremonies of Jewish men from Jewish woman and another to separate gentiles from the Jews . Ceremonial laws were for a sign to the world. . . the faithless Jew made it a sign to themselves.

An gospel explosion one like never before or ever again the veil was rent, things got out of order and the Holy Spirit gave her two new ordinances (1 Corinthians 11) as ceremonials laws(shadows) The hair issue as it relates to glories and the drinking of the blood (bread and blood of grapes) again a sign to the world that he is the God of all nations . .

Husband and wife should discuss their spiritual differences at home . There they can teach each other as two walking in agreement to the one who dwells in both .

The requirements of a pastor are wives, obeying children , and oneself . The picture God desires to show to the world . Husbands watering the wives with the water of the word or doctrines of God just as Christ our husband waters us all with his gospel of truth .

In that way we are to wash each others feet beautiful feet shod with the gospel of peace.

Ephesians 5:25-27 King James Version (KJV) Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.