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Thanks reymielin. I'm sorry, I think I confused you. Those comments I made (the ones you quoted just now) were not directed at you at all. Sorry for the confusion :) They were just general comments at anyone who disagrees.

We believers will never fully agree on everything in this life, this we know for sure. But we can easily all agree that we must surrender humbly under the Holy Spirit's guidance if we desire to walk with Christ and live like Christ.

hehehe.. Praise the Lord

one more agree here..

ok Bro. i'll try to read later for further information.. Thanks


God bless TJ!!!
 
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well about muslims let me tell you about them.i am liveing in muslim country .here are we just 4 % .muslims hate us too much .they think that we are paggon.they try their best to convert christian people into muslims. when some one get muslim they give him money and give his/her interview into news papers. but if some muslim get christian they kill him /her on the spot.even they hate christian this much one day 2 year befor i was working as a painter helper in a muslim house .they give us good food at noon and nice things to eat.but as soon they hear that we are christian they seprate our plates and cups.you now why because they belive that we are paggon.if america kill some muslims in iraq or afganistan ,they cruell on christian that are here.even when denmark release muhammad cartoon they kill a vast number of christian here and burn bibles and make cross on roads and walk on these cross .we cnt say any thing against muslims or islam here if we say we will charged with act 295c .and its result is death.any muslim can claim that we use bad words against muhammd and the government we charged us with 295 c. they think 9/11 is a very good incident. they think they will go in paradise if they bum blast in christian community or countries becuse they belive that to kill a christian is a loveable to allah.even people pray for talbaan and usama bin ladan that allah give them life to fight with paggons mean with christian.
 
Choice is for those of faith

A religion of hate and murder is not a religion. Muslims are evil, no true religion which practices world domintation is peaceful. It is of hate and evil!

i agree with u. If muslim were allowed to move forward we should know that in gethsemane christ allowed to swords to be carried eventhogh he knows those who live by the sword die by the sword
he asked us not to live by the sword but to defend ourselves and our faith by the sword. to defend is not violence. God's name cannot be humiliated by the faitfuls by being ignorant towards the evil that destroys faith. For 2000 years God has proven to us that peace is most important.Love your enemies and those who harm u. But he never denied us from defending our faith.Our God is a God who said that I would not allow my name to be humiliated. We should not be revengeful neither should we deny war if it is necessary. Our God gave us an existence depending on peace and war of faith. War of faith is not violence or physical. It is what is necessary for faith. Faith should not be destroyed , for we can allow ourselves to be destroyed but not faith.Christ allowed two swords because he knew that people of faith eventually have to defend themselves. What christ wanted was for us not to look at peace and deny war.Peace is more important that war.But peaceful people who r like lambs would not be able to defend against the devil and his evil. We r living with thousands of years of the devils work who is working everyday. Islam is not a peaceful religion they were taught to be violent and aggresive in faith whereas we were taught to live by the sword die by the sword.If not for the combination of sword and peace we would have lost our faith. We dont resort to war. But by denying war all the time we would only deny the strenght that God has given us.There is only war when we have to. Our children would drown in their faith if we say one God for all.The wicked have the right to live yet not evil that destroys faith. Atheism is not as evil as Islam that seeks to dominate the world and force people to accept their religion. If Islam is not forceful we can sit down and talk. But when they have power like in India THEY destroyed other faith. It is not for us that we must stand up but for the faith of our children. I do support Bush in being against islamic terrorism but i didnt like the bloody way it was done. The capitalistic war against terrorism would not work. Spiritually we must unite and sit down and talk to muslim. Christ always sought for peaceful solution. I slam must be against terror themselve. If not let God choose between them and us in war against terror not against islam. I f we chose to ignore the faith and fate of our brethren in Christ. Then we are not the body of Christ. We would expire like the glory of the Jews. Judaism received glory by peace and war. David fought all his life. Solomon made peace. The gospel says there is something greater here than solomon nd david. The greatness is strenght and truth that is lived by the spirit. Guided by the spirit we should think of our capabilities. The book of revelation speaks war and rule at the end of times. We at this moment as Christian rule the world. We dominate not just physically but spiritually as well. This is what makes us hated by the world. We can live by faith and joy in Christ. We seek a peaceful life yet we r dominant.If not for God 's will could we be dominant. has Christ not been there through our sacrifice and taught us war without the strenght and guidance of the spirit wiil fail. The spirit only goes to war to save the kingdom fo heaven.That is why the gates of hell will never prevail the gates of heaven. In china the muslims r quiet because china does not entertain nonsense. I am not asking us to be like the wicked china. I am asking not to deny that those who live by the sword die by the sword but also not to deny Christ allowed the apostles to carry swords. We live by our faith whether we choose to be lambs sheeps dove or lions of faith it is our faith. The lions of faith who chose to defend their faith cannot be silenced by the lamb of faith nor can the righteousness of the sheep and lambs of God be silenced. To each his talents to serve faith and christ. Without Faith hope and love we will deteriote. Do not argue in terms of the sword or peace both are abundant in the bible. the bible is the victory of God based upon the truth. I am the way, The truth and eternal live said the Lord. If we study the truth about Islam today we would find they r getting fanatical and consider the christian as their enemy. If we who love our enemies do not go to war we r right because it is the faith we live by. If we deny those who go to war we deny their faith based upon our peaceful faith which would only obliterate war in scripture. We do not decide for others action against evil for such is the bible. Read the laws of moses an eye for an eye or forgiven is the choice of the inflicted. We cannot allow evil to triumph just because we choose peace. Peace is our choice may not be others. U might be peaceful in your family. Or war in the family TRUTH WOULD COME ANYWAY.
 
We don't attack anyone, or critizise them for no reason, there are Buddist people but we don't say they are bad or evil just because they don't share our beliefs, but Islam over the years showed what it is really about.

Even the way they started spreading it was by paying taxes or the sword, imagine how many family, across Asia and Africa, were killed for Christianity.

Not just that, those pictures showed Muslims who live in an English Christian nation, where do they come off claiming the right to do whatever they do? what is that evil power they move with? Is this God's work?

Take HezebAllh in Lebanon, and the never ending war, even though the majority of Lebanon are Christians, they don't feel home, why should Islam be permitted to rule the country and even the government can't stop them?

sunilgill_87 described a perfect picture of how many muslims treat Christians, I was spanked/avoided as a kid in school many times whenever teachers knew I was Christian, imagine how many scared kid can't make up his mind on his own religion because of fear and confusion.

Any one is free to express his/her opinion on the thread, but just like Chad commented, the pictures speak for itself! You can't hide a sun that shines so bright.

But just to be fair, not all muslims are like that, I know some very respectful muslims, but even those, believe that as a Christian, I'll end up in hell.
 
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This reminds me of something I read somewhere...

“First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out –
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for my Country
and I did not speak out –
because I was not Political.
Then they came for the Christians
and I did not speak out –
because I was not a Preacher.
Then they came for me –
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.”

Luke 10:27 And he answered, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself."
Luke 10:28 And he said to him, "You have answered correctly; do this, and you will live."
Luke 10:29 But he, desiring to justify himself, said to Jesus, "And who is my neighbor?"
 
"A prestigious Islamic school in London was forced to shred 2,000 textbooks used to poison pupils' minds with lessons of hate, a former teacher claimed yesterday.

Colin Cook, who taught English at the King Fahad Academy for 18 years, told a tribunal how "incompetent" Ofsted inspectors reported that the school's teaching of Islamic studies was "mostly good".

But their report was wildly inaccurate, he said, because pupils as young as five were being taught by rote from Arabic textbooks describing Jews as "monkeys" and Christians as "pigs".

Mr Cook said that when he exposed the racist teaching, the school's head Dr Sumaya Alyusuf lied on television, insisting that hateful passages had never been taught.

Under public pressure the Academy eventually agreed to destroy 2,000 books but photocopied them first for future use, he told the tribunal.

The school, in Acton, West London, opened in 1985 for the children of Saudi diplomats and is funded and controlled by the Saudi government."

Muslim school 'that taught pupils from race hate textbooks made photocopies after order to shred them' | Mail Online

It seems Westerners (and specifically Christians, who think "love" means to walk around with our eyes wide shut) will continue to be lulled to sleep with the song and dance of "misinterpreted" Islamic agenda...and the numbers of Muslim radicals (by repeated denial of the obvious) reduced to an insignificant few...

The denial of the majority on one side is rivaled only by the denial of the majority on the other side...

Islam is a radical Religion. If you are a true Christian, you will teach your child by the Book (Bible) Does anyone really think a faithful follower of Islam is not going to teach his children by the Book (Koran) Of course He is...I have personally heard and read enough testimonials by Muslim converts to be convinced of what Islamic "truth" stands for...

It is not "hate" for your "neighbor" to lock your doors at night...

The night has come...too many of us are sleeping...with the doors to our parliaments, our legislatures, our universities, our childrens schools...unlocked ...in nations that we still proclaim to be "under God"

Lullaby...
 
Jiggy said: "we should be very careful not to judge or stereotype all muslims by this group of zealots". Thankyou for that.

I am saddened and disgusted by the kind of extremism shown in those photos but in the interest of fairness...

Do you remember some Danish publication featuring a cartoon of the prophet Mohommad? This demonstration was a result of that incident. There were many such demonstrations by extremist/fundamentalists all around the world. The 'article' you were sent has some flaws though. It was never called a 'religion of peace demonstration'. That statement is patently false. It was just a bunch of angry people marching on the Danish embassy. Also, a few of those pictures seem to be from another protest a couple years earlier. So, a bit inflamatory but essentially correct.

What may seem most distressing in these pictures is the policeman photographed. Why is he doing nothing about these preachers of violence?

The police did a 'risk assessment' of the 500-700 strong rally and were worried about inflaming a riot and people getting hurt. As a result, nobody was arrested on the day. That came later (I think it was 5 ringleaders). Britain has very strict laws governing protest rallies. They actually said that they consider the placards and chants to have been criminal...'incitement to violence', 'incitement to murder' etc.

Both the Muslim community at large, the police and politicians from all parties condemned the protest. The nation was apalled. Many leaders of teh British Muslim community actually criticized the police for not stopping the demonstration and arresting the participants. They felt humiliated; much the way that decent christians would be apalled by the Klu Klux Klan or hate groups like the 'God Hates ****' collective. I am not much for defending Islam but i must honestly say that the backlash against the extremists (by the islamic community as a whole) was adament.

There is a very good BBC article covering the protest by 5000 muslims over the same 'cartoon incident' by the mainstream muslim community. It happened a week or 2 after the other protest. If it pleases the moderators on this forum I would be happy to provide the link.

Something to keep in mind here is that Christianity has been used as a tool of violent oppression ('Fear as a weapon' as Jiggy put it) by evil people as well and that terrorism is in the eye of the beholder. Muslims are people as well; people with dreams, hopes and aspirations much the same as the rest of us. They love their children and want a peaceul world for them to enjoy.

Somebody mentioned earlier that Islam seeks to dominate the world. I think it is prudent to point out that both Christianity and Islam are evangelic faiths and, as such, both seek to be the dominant world religion. That is the nature of evangelic faith...to spread the good word and see the veil of confusion lifted from the eyes of the unbeliever. It is the sincerely held belief in both camps that God's work is being done by standing up for one's faith. Can you blame them? Can they blame you?
 
Somebody mentioned earlier that Islam seeks to dominate the world. I think it is prudent to point out that both Christianity and Islam are evangelic faiths and, as such, both seek to be the dominant world religion. That is the nature of evangelic faith...to spread the good word and see the veil of confusion lifted from the eyes of the unbeliever. It is the sincerely held belief in both camps that God's work is being done by standing up for one's faith. Can you blame them? Can they blame you?

The difference between our faith and their 'religion' is we don't murder those who do not believe. So yes, you can blame them because everyone in their conscious knows that murder is wrong. They know this because GOD convicts and sets it in the mind that murder is wrong. If you think I'm wrong saying this, then prove how one can stand before Christ on judgment day and say "I did know murder was wrong, I was deceived"?

What will they blame us for? Spreading love about Christ?
 
The difference between our faith and their 'religion' is we don't murder those who do not believe. So yes, you can blame them because everyone in their conscious knows that murder is wrong. They know this because GOD convicts and sets it in the mind that murder is wrong. If you think I'm wrong saying this, then prove how one can stand before Christ on judgment day and say "I did know murder was wrong, I was deceived"?

What will they blame us for? Spreading love about Christ?

Hi there Chad. Are you differentiating 'Christianity' from 'religion'? You may need to explain this further. Reading between the lines I am guessing that you are saying that institutionalised religion is not Christianity or vice versa. Is that an acknowledgement of Christianity's sometimes violent past in the hands of (for example) Catholicism and a statement of your disassoiation from it? If so, that makes a certain kind of sense and I can happily accept that.

I wouldn't, for a second, want you to think that I believe anybody on this forum has violence in their heart. I accept that the nature of most believers is one that promotes peace and love. people are people though..and that meansthat there is always going to be a breakaway element within the wider community that expresses itself in an extreme manner, hence my reference to religious hate groups that call themselves Christian.

In reference to murder by Christians, there has been a number of murders of abortion clinic doctors in the USA and beyond (please do not read this as any kind of sanctioning of abortion on my part). So, yes, it does happen but I accept that this is in no way an indictment of Christian people as a whole.

Yes, I accept that murder is wrong and that Christ upholds the tenet of peace. Matthew 26:52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

No, I cannot prove anything about judgement day except to share a another lovely sentiment expressed in Matthew (CH:5) that has stayed with me since my childhood...and which serves to remind me of the true heart of the Christian faith.

<SUP>5</SUP>Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

<SUP id=en-KJV-23241>6</SUP>Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
<SUP id=en-KJV-23242>7</SUP>Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
<SUP id=en-KJV-23243>8</SUP>Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
<SUP id=en-KJV-23244>9</SUP>Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
<SUP id=en-KJV-23245>10</SUP>Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
<SUP id=en-KJV-23246>11</SUP>Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. <SUP id=en-KJV-23247>12</SUP>Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

Oh...and NO, I do not think that the bulk of Muslim people would condemn Christians for following their convictions of faith or for spreading their gospel. In fact, a personal example I can give is time spent in a Muslim prison in Abu dabi (no, not me. It was a friend caught drinking in a dry territory of the UAE). He was there for a month and it was not much fun for him. Anyway, he was advised to tell the judge that he is a Chrstian (he is a non-believer) even if he had no faith. Reason? Because it would be looked upon favourably that he was a person of faithful conviction and that it is believed that (in the words of his lawyer) "those who sincerely seek god will surely find truth".

Again, I am not trying to defend the Muslim faith. Rather, I am just saying that sometimes we (you, me, us) can sometimes lose sight of the fact that people are generally 'good' and want to live in peace, regardless of their beliefs.

Love and respect
 
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Christianity is a relationship with Jesus, after He died for us, we are no longer saved by the law, it is no longer a set of golden rules and a religion if you don't follow you'll go to hell, we are saved by grace, so yes, I don't believe Christianity is mere religion, it is much bigger than that.

Islam other wise, is a religion, one that is not inspired by God's own spirt,
Is that an acknowledgement of Christianity's sometimes violent past in the hands of (for example) Catholicism
If you are going to make excuses for them and say not all muslims are like that, then I'll make excuses and say not all Christians are catholics , so glad we agree on that.

I don't think I hate muslims, not at all, and I don't believe any one here is able to really hate, but we all grieve at the injustice they bring.

Again, I am not trying to defend the Muslim faith. Rather, I am just saying that sometimes we (you, me, us) can sometimes lose sight of the fact that people are generally 'good' and want to live in peace, regardless of their beliefs.

Let me tell you that, no one is good, no one is good but God, how can you say we are generally good? There is no good in us, we deserve death, we can only try to achieve goodness, but God doesn't care if we are good or bad, God loves muslims too, but they are not saved by grace, so they'll be judged.

Pslam 14:33 "
"All have turned aside, they have together become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one. "

Mark 10:18
"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone."

Romans 3:12
"All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one."
 
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Let me tell you that, no one is good, no one is good but God, how can you say we are generally good? There is no good in us, we deserve death, we can only try to achieve goodness, but God doesn't care if we are good or bad, God loves muslims too, but they are not saved by grace, so they'll be judged.
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Wow. That's a revelation in itself; that there is no good in humanity (without Christ?). I haven't had that particular idea revealed to me before. It's an excellent theme for a thread. Maybe somebody could point out a thread that already covers this kind of idea? Has there ever been a good person etc. I would find that most interesting.

Matthew 5:45 speaks of the sun rising on the evil and the good. I seem to remember the bible calling Noah 'perfect' as well. Psalm 37:4 says the "the steps of a good man are ordered by the Lord". Is there any essential difference between the Greek and Hebrew words for 'good'?

I know the bible speaks at length about the 'just'. I would be interested to look at the original Greek or Hebrew words that we call 'just' or 'good'. Is there an online resource that has the original biblical language alongside the English translation? I remember my parents having a bible with the NIV, KJV and the original biblical language alongside. What is that called? The concordance? I think I could benefit from having it on my bookshelf. Recommendations, please.

I'm sorry for getting off topic. I obviously need to do a bit of study on this subject.

Getting back to the subject...the point I was trying to make about being 'generally good' is that i think that most people, given the choice between performing a good deed or an evil one will choose good. In that sense I think it follows that we generally desire goodness; peace, understanding, love, justice.

I honestly believe most people desire to live peaceably among their neighbours and are happy to allow the freedom of self-determination for others.

Peace
 
Wow. That's a revelation in itself; that there is no good in humanity (without Christ?).

No brother, you misunderstood, even Christians are not good, we can only try to be good, but no one is good but God, even Jesus denied He was good.


I seem to remember the bible calling Noah 'perfect' as well
From Gotquestions.org
Question:
"Is entire sanctification / sinless perfection possible in this life?"

Answer: The Greek word teleios (tel’-i-os) is used throughout the New Testament. It is often translated as “perfect” but can also mean “complete,” “full-grown,” and even “mature.” The confusion comes in when various translations use the word perfect instead of one of the other meanings. As an example, in James 1:4 Scripture says that we will be “perfect and complete.” But a further reading of the book shows that a better translation would be “mature,” because in James 3:2 we find that we all stumble. Obviously, we cannot stumble if we are perfect. However, the concept of maturity is compatible with imperfection.

First Corinthians 13:10; Ephesians 4:13; and Colossians 1:28 and 4:12 all should be translated as “mature” or “full-grown,” both of which fit in well in each verse’s context. As human beings we are still bound under the curse of Adam. No matter how hard we try not to, we will still sin against God. The Apostle Paul scolded Peter for favoritism (Galatians 2:11-13). Late in his ministry, Paul calls himself the chief of sinners (1 Timothy 1:15). Peter, James, John, and Paul all admitted that they were not perfect. How could you or I claim anything different?

True perfection will not come until the Rapture of the church, when we rise to meet Jesus in the air (1 Thessalonians 4:17). At this time we will receive a new body (Philippians 3:20,21; 1 Corinthians 15:54). We will attend the Judgment Seat of Christ (2 Corinthians 5:10) where our works will be judged and any rewards given (1 Corinthians 3:9-15). We will then live forever and reign with Christ, in sinless perfection.
 
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The Endless Battle
"Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels."

--Revelation 12:7

War always will rage between the two great sovereignties until one or other be crushed. Peace between good and evil is an impossibility; the very pretence of it would, in fact, be the triumph of the powers of darkness. Michael will always fight; his holy soul is vexed with sin, and will not endure it. Jesus will always be the dragon's foe, and that not in a quiet sense, but actively, vigorously, with full determination to exterminate evil. All His servants, whether angels in heaven or messengers on earth, will and must fight; they are born to be warriors--at the cross they enter into covenant never to make truce with evil; they are a warlike company, firm in defence and fierce in attack. The duty of every soldier in the army of the Lord is daily, with all his heart, and soul, and strength, to fight against the dragon.

The dragon and his angels will not decline the affray; they are incessant in their onslaughts, sparing no weapon, fair or foul. We are foolish to expect to serve God without opposition: the more zealous we are, the more sure are we to be assailed by the myrmidons of hell. The church may become slothful, but not so her great antagonist; his restless spirit never suffers the war to pause; he hates the woman's seed, and would fain devour the church if he could. The servants of Satan partake much of the old dragon's energy, and are usually an active race. War rages all around, and to dream of peace is dangerous and futile.

Glory be to God, we know the end of the war. The great dragon shall be cast out and for ever destroyed, while Jesus and they who are with Him shall receive the crown. Let us sharpen our swords to-night, and pray the Holy Spirit to nerve our arms for the conflict. Never battle so important, never crown so glorious. Every man to his post, ye warriors of the cross, and may the Lord tread Satan under your feet shortly!
 
We have these same photos on our music screen at church.
It should also be known that the Muslims were sent a document saying that they, who live here in America, were to consider themselves combatants behind enemy lines.
I don't remember who said this ,but remember hearing it not to long back....does anyone else remember hearing this?

If you were behind enemy lines I think you would say whatever it takes to remain in the background also.
When it comes to the line I dont believe you will find the Muslim here very peaceful....
There are, I'm sure some born again Christian that have been saved from the Muslim religion though.
 
I feel the need to bump this one up today. There are some people that need to see these photos.
 
I agree with you reymielin. Some people jump the gun and assume posting the news to Christians for their awareness is "hate". That's so cliche' by now in the Christian community. This is news for Christians. You want to pray for them? Indeed, pray for them without judging me for posting the truth. Had many believers not known what these muslim radicals are up to, would they be encouraged and moved to pray for them? Likely not. So people need news of what goes on in their world.

You can't pray for the world while living under a rock, secluded of what's happening outside your home.

If you dislike the post, then's your views. Not mine.

I totally agree. Jesus said the children of the world are in their ways wiser than the children of light. Christians really don't know how to handle the sort of information that affronts our civility- we're to scared of offending people. But we simply cannot lose sight of the fact that the Gospel, this faith, WE are a scandal. Also, as it applies to Islam, there are no such thing as "radicals". There are only two types of Muslims: fundamentalists (those that fly planes into buildings) and the ignorant (those who advocate ecumenism and tolerance).

Having read the Quran, I can say unequivocally that animus is as much a part of their faith as faith is to ours. Also, we cannot lose sight of the spirit animating Islam is the Devil himself. Why are we trying to play nice with the devil? We must recognize that Muslims are people with souls, in need of salvation but that they serve a power and practice a religion that is diametrically opposed to all that is holy.
 
The truth is the truth

however hatred against hatred, evil against evil is not what Jesus teaches us.
What Chad said is the truth. Islam is evil. Allah is Satanic, Muhammed is the false prophet and the comming Mahdi completes this evil trinity.
The dome of the rock stands where the Jewish Temple should be. It is the abomination that causes desolation.
 
Real Bravery

well about muslims let me tell you about them.i am liveing in muslim country .here are we just 4 % .muslims hate us too much .they think that we are paggon.they try their best to convert christian people into muslims. when some one get muslim they give him money and give his/her interview into news papers. but if some muslim get christian they kill him /her on the spot.even they hate christian this much one day 2 year befor i was working as a painter helper in a muslim house .they give us good food at noon and nice things to eat.but as soon they hear that we are christian they seprate our plates and cups.you now why because they belive that we are paggon.if america kill some muslims in iraq or afganistan ,they cruell on christian that are here.even when denmark release muhammad cartoon they kill a vast number of christian here and burn bibles and make cross on roads and walk on these cross .we cnt say any thing against muslims or islam here if we say we will charged with act 295c .and its result is death.any muslim can claim that we use bad words against muhammd and the government we charged us with 295 c. they think 9/11 is a very good incident. they think they will go in paradise if they bum blast in christian community or countries becuse they belive that to kill a christian is a loveable to allah.even people pray for talbaan and usama bin ladan that allah give them life to fight with paggons mean with christian.
Sungill I will pray for your protection in the land of satan. God bless you.
 
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