Knowledge or Destruction

[Reba1]

are you going to answer my question?

You have all you have spoken care to share what you have spoken of?

 

[Bethel]

are you going to answer my question?

I did.
Go read.

 

[Reba1]

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Let me show you how to see this revelation.

2 Things stated in the Bible.....

One in the OT.....says.....>"my people are destroyed for/by lack of Knowledge".

So, in the case of unbelievers, they have a lack of knowledge of THE Truth......who is Jesus THE Christ. John 14:6
And they are being destroyed daily, and will be destroyed in the 2nd death, for eternity.
John 3:36, says of all unbelievers that God's wrath is on them, already. This means they are already judged, damned, and waiting to go to hell.
This is the eternal situation of every unbeliever...
How to get out of this damnation?
"come to the knowledge of THE Truth" : who is Jesus THE Savior...........and BELIEVE The GOSPEL and be born again.....(and not just water baptized).
If they dont...then they are currently and eternally DESTROYED by this "lack of Knowledge".


Now, how is a Christian destroyed by lack of Knowledge. ???

Well, if they never understand who they have become "in Christ", = a "new creation", then their discipleship is already ruined, and will remain ruined until they come to the knowledge of who they are become "in Christ" as a "new Creation".
Till that day of revelation, they will believe that their salvation is only as good as they are...
They will believe that the blood of Jesus is not an eternal sacrifice for ALL their sin.
They will believe that they can be lost and saved again.....lost, and saved again.........as a matter of fact, most who are confused about confessing sin, .....confess sin, because they dont understand their redemption. In other words, if they read Romans 4:8 that says that God does not charge the born again with their sin......and if they read 2nd Corinthians that says that Christ became their SIN, because God "made him to be "......then they have NO IDEA what those verses are telling them.
And until they find this out, they will remain a confessing, sinning, repenting, discipleship failure with no VICTORY.
Many of these start Churches, start Forums, and write commentaries and "best selling Christian books".

Now, here is that 2nd revelation, that you have to have , or you can destroy yourself because you dont have the knowledge yet, to not do it.

Verse : "Power of life and death is in the tongue",.........and Jesus said....>"what you believe you will have".

Now, when God created creation, He created it through Christ the Word. This is why Colossians 1:16 says that all things were created by Jesus.
Now here is the revelation regarding that situation........God SPOKE Creation< and Jesus is the WORD.
Think on that.


Now, how are you destroyed by those other verses i quoted?

Its like this reader....

"prayer" is not when you bow your head and close your eyes. See, that is just a ritual you perform with your body on any given Sunday or just before you eat too much food.
Listen now......Prayer, is what you SAY.
So...What does that mean?
It means that everything you say, is the power of the tongue.... and if you believe it you will receive it or you will become it.
Now, this is KNOWLEDGE im giving you, but You have to get the revelation..

Let me show you how.

For example.....If you say........>"you know, my mama got cancer and died, and that'll probably happen to me also".

See that? You just prayed. and if you believe it, ... Jesus said you will have it........and your Cancer is on the way.

Lets try again........> "I bet my 13yr old daughter is going to turn out to be a prostitute and a drunk......just look at who she hangs out with"....

See what you just did?
You just prayed for your daughter to become a drunken prostitute..
Do you believe it?
You will receive it......Jesus said.......and she'll have the Tattoos and body piercings and the 4 or 5 abortions along the way.
You did that to her.
"power of life and death, is in the tongue". Jesus said "if you believe, you will have it".........and that includes the really bad stuff and the really bad situations, reader.

So, what is the KNOWLEDGE that destroys you, if you dont have it.?
Its what im showing you.
Are you listening to the revelation, or are you just reading the words?
Im showing you that words are prayers, and if your words are destructive, and you believe them, then you can harm yourself, your wife, your mother, your husband, your kids, your neighbors, your friends....your entire family.


Words are power, and they are creation, if you BELIEVE IT.
Words are prayers.....
Jesus said if you believer your words, you WILL have them.
So, watch what you say, notice what you say.........and do not offer up damning, harming, PRAYERS, against yourself and against people you love.

Do you speak the lawn mowed? How about a hair cut?

 

[Reba1]

I did.
Go read.

I dont believe you did. My eyes are old and i sometimes i miss things

 

[Reba1]

Maybe you could speak a word for my eyes?

 

[Bethel]

Do you speak the lawn mowed? How about a hair cut?

When a believer is in a life crisis, say......you are in the ER, and your husband, wife, child, brother, mother, father, sister, is about an inch from death...
You need to have the knowledge that Faith is what moves God.
Faith is words you believe.
So, you can mock this, because you feel the need, urge, compulsion, but, i know better that words are prayers, and faith is what causes these prayers to come to pass.
Jesus said so.

 

[Bethel]

Maybe you could speak a word for my eyes?

Maybe you could.
Do you not believe that Jesus heals and that God wants you to have good health?

Would you want your child to have bad eye sight, cancer, poverty?

Are you God's Child? born again?
= God wants for you, what you would want for your child.
Do you understand this?
However, He will not force you to have faith.. and speak those words..... He will just notice it when you are on a Christian Forum disputing the words of His Son.

 

[Reba1]

Asking direct questions is not mocking? I am trying to understand your posts.

 

[Reba1]

Seems to me when you do not have a simple direct answer you consider the question to be mocking . Blame the one asking most human response . Sorry you feel/think/believe that way.

 

[Bethel]

Asking direct questions is not mocking? I am trying to understand your posts.

No, you are advising me to mow my grass with words.
So, that is not a discussion, that is a troll, on this forum, doing what you do.

 

[Bethel]

Seems to me when you do not have a simple direct answer you consider the question to be mocking .

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Can i mow my grass or heal your eyes with sentences?
No i cannot.
But i can speak words of faith that please God, who told me, "without faith it is impossible to please me"... So, i understand that my words, when spoken in faith, both please God and move God.

See, many people who are not familiar with God, or Jesus, but can quote verses, and create "christian" forums and build churches, .. will tell you that God is moved by your hurt, your tears, and your torment... And He does notice it, and He is touched by your misery, and your need, but He will not help you, unless you BELIEVE. And you have to SPEAK that prayer, and believe it.
That is how God set it up.
Yes, God reads minds, but He REACTS to FAITH, spoken, and believed......Just like Jesus , who is God.....told you.

Its FAITH that get God activated into your situation, not your problems.

 

[Reba1]

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Can i mow my grass or heal your eyes with sentences?
No i cannot.
But i can speak words of faith that please God, who told me, "without faith it is impossible to please me"... So, i understand that my words, when spoken in faith, both please God and move God.

See, many people who are not familiar with God, or Jesus, but can quote verses, and create "christian" forums and build churches, .. will tell you that God is moved by your hurt, your tears, and your torment... And He does notice it, and He is touched by your misery, and your need, but He will not help you, unless you BELIEVE. And you have to SPEAK that prayer, and believe it.
That is how God set it up.
Yes, God reads minds, but He REACTS to FAITH, spoken, and believed......Just like Jesus , who is God.....told you.

Its FAITH that get God activated into your situation, not your problems.

Thank you for the direct reply

 

[Bethel]

Thank you for the direct reply

Here is another...

You can't revoke, what you didn't cause, Spiritually.

This applies to salvation, eternal life, and being born again.

See, "eternal life" is Jesus Himself.
So, if Jesus is in you, READER... then you are now in spiritual union with eternal life, Himself.
This is a BIRTH, spiritually, that happened inside you. It happened to your spirit.
You are born again, BIRTHED Spiritually = into Jesus,= into God, and that is why you exist in Eternal LIFE< as they are Eternal Life.
Becoming this situation, happened because God caused it., and once this birth happens, its finished.
See, you can never stop being Born AGAIN.
Always remember that Jesus, who is Eternal Life..... said........>"i will never leave you, or forsake you", and "you shall never perish".
And where is Jesus?
He is INSIDE YOU, joined to your SPIRIT< if you are born again.

 

[Curtis]

1Pe 3:10 For “Whoever desires to love life and see good days, let him keep his tongue from evil and his lips from speaking deceit;

Jas 1:26 If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless.

 

[Bethel]

1Pe 3:10 For “Whoever desires to love life and see good days, let him keep his tongue from evil and his lips from speaking deceit;
Jas 1:26 If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless.

The Preaching of the Cross will be preached, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.
Not on this forum, not on any forum, or anywhere.

Lifting up Jesus, draws all men to Him.
Giving all credit due, to Christ alone, for the Eternal Salvation that He has achieved, and offers as "the gift of Salvation", is golden, is precious in the sight of God.

 

[Bethel]

No, you are advising me to mow my grass with words.
So, that is not a discussion, that is a troll, on this forum, doing what you do.

No, im telling you that if you say to me, "i can't see very well, i have eye problems".....then you have spoken your faith.

See those words?
That is a prayer.......and you dont realize it.

My Thread was written to help you understand that your WORDS are not just words.. And when you by faith confess that "my eyesight is not good".....then that is your FAITH, being spoken.

Jesus said, that what you SAY........that you BELIEVE, is what you will receive.

 

[Reba1]

"prayer" is not when you bow your head and close your eyes. See, that is just a ritual you perform with your body on any given Sunday or just before you eat too much food.
Listen now......Prayer, is what you SAY.
So...What does that mean?
It means that everything you say, is the power of the tongue.... and if you believe it you will receive it or you will become it.
Now, this is KNOWLEDGE im giving you, but You have to get the revelation..

Everything you say is the power of the tongue? When people use words like 'everything' 'always' i cant help but wonder if that is exactly the way it is. According to you asking someone to take out the trash is prayer. Saying to some one I am going to wash the car is prayer. As is hey Honey will you get the phone? Jr. did you brush your teeth?

When a believer is in a life crisis, say......you are in the ER, and your husband, wife, child, brother, mother, father, sister, is about an inch from death...
You need to have the knowledge that Faith is what moves God.
Faith is words you believe.
So, you can mock this, because you feel the need, urge, compulsion, but, i know better that words are prayers, and faith is what causes these prayers to come to pass.
Jesus said so.

This quote is a bit more selective .

 

[Bethel]

Everything you say is the power of the tongue? When people use words like 'everything' 'always' i cant help but wonder if that is exactly the way it is. According to you asking someone to take out the trash is prayer. Saying to some one I am going to wash the car is prayer. As is hey Honey will you get the phone? Jr. did you brush your teeth?
This quote is a bit more selective .

The context is "believing"....
Jesus said you shall have what you believe....
That's a bit more strict, because that is the context.
If Jesus said.....>"Peter, pass the salt and the potatoes"....then that is obviously not a prayer..

But if a person says.....>"i bet i get cancer".......>"i bet i have a stroke, just like killed my mama'.

See it?
This is a curse, pronounced on the person themselves, out of their own mouth......its not just words......its a BELIEF....."i BELIEVE i can't see". "i BELIEVE i will die alone"..... "i BET, i THINK, i predict."....this is all "BELIEVING", and these words are prayers.

 

[Reba1]

I read you have altered what the OP says . Good!

Jesus was not created .

 

[Bethel]

I read you have altered what the OP says . Good!

Jesus was not created .

Im the OP.
I have no idea what you have just tried to explain.
Can you be more clear, so that it makes sense?